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Originally Posted by skinsfan
i don't know if this will be helpful to anyone when their wife/fiance will arrive...but here is my recent story...hope it doesn't bore you too much...
about 3 months ago, my wife and i along with our daughter were shopping in the Mall...my daughter heard two women speaking in Russian, so we went and introduced ourselves...they were from the Ukraine, and had been in the USA for 6 years...my wife and the women exchanged phone numbers, and we went on our way. these women and my wife spoke on the telephone several times, they invited us for a party, and then cancelled at the last minute....that was the last we heard from them ...... recently (within the last month) my wife and i went to a restaurant, and one of the Ukrainian women saw us...it turns out she was asst manager of this restaurant.......after this meeting, these Ukranian women began to call and stop by our home frequently....they would spend much time at the mall with my wife....i thought it was great for my wife to have friends from the FSU, and encouraged it very much. two weeks ago, they invited us to another party, and wanted us to arrive several hours before the other guests to help them...we were happy to help....everything was great, and all seemed to have a good time. now is where the insanity begins....... my wifes birthday was approaching, and i planned a long weekend at the ocean for my wife as a surprise...(she loves the water)...i never spoke to anyone about the surprise...... my wife takes ESL classes at night...one night, the Ukranian ladies stopped at my home unannounced.....i have a very protective dog, so i had to speak with them outside..... they came with a book about time shares, and said that they could receive an ocean front 3 bedroom for a very low price at Daytona Beach Florida...they wanted to make it a surprise birthday gift for my wife....they wanted to go with us as well and stay in one of the three bedrooms. ..... i was hesitant at first, but they insisted.....my original plans were to Myrtle Beach South Carolina, approximately a five hour drive(i had taken my wife there before)....the drive to Florida was an eight hour drive...i also have very close friends that live in south Florida, and was relatively certain that if i called they would come and meet us at Daytona Beach.......so, i said okay. the plans were that we would leave at 3.00am sunday morning, and come back on thursday morning...i simply had to adjust my calender which was difficult, but not impossible....this new plan was presented on the wednesday before my wifes birthday on friday, and the trip would be on very early sunday morning...not much time, but workable...... on the following day, i contacted my friends in florida, and they began to try and find a room short notice in Daytona Beach...this was thursday....my friend called me early friday (my wifes birthday) and said they were successful with the room and would meet us at the beach on monday morning......all was working out great untill ......!!!!! i own a construction company, and of all days, my wifes birthday (friday) things took longer, i called my wife and told her i would be very late for dinner...she told me not to worry...she really is wonderful.....i arrived home at 8.00pm loaded with flowers...we had a nice dinner, but i was exhausted...my wife and i wanted to imply go to bed...but then, we received the call...it was the Ukranian women saying that they would arrive at our home in one hour for my wifes birthday......neither my wife or i was excited about this turn of events, but we made the Russian table and broke out the vodka. at 11.00pm the ladies arrived....they ate, and we all made many toasts for health,etc. one lady smokes, so she went outside on the deck for a cigarette...my wife went along for company leaving me alone with the other women....i had small talk with this woman, and then i told her of my friends from florida meeting us also as a surprise for my wife....this woman became anxious...she wanted to go outside on the deck and hurry her friend along...this was about 12.45am, and i was ready for bed, so i didn't think too much about it. everyone left with smiles and took photo's...... saturday morning, i recieved a call from one of the women concerned about where my friends from florida would sleep..hoping it wasn't in the condo...i assured the lady that they had their own hotel, and not to worry.......all was understood and okay......so i thought...... later that afternoon, my wife and children went to the grocery store and to blockbuster video to get a film for the night and some food.....while they were away, i received a call from one of the women....... this woman sounded so somber.....she told me that my wife accused her of trying to take her husband (me) from her...she told me that she was no prostitute and did not need any man.....she told me that the trip was off, and that she did not want to be friends anymore.....i was shocked, and caught completely off guard...all i could tell this woman was that i was shocked by what she was saying, and that was that..... soon after, my wife arrived home...i told her what the woman said....i could see absolute surprise and shock in my wifes face......she told me that she never said anything such as this, and had not spoken to this woman since the night before. she began to cry and went up to bed....i felt so bad for her. not long after, this Ukranian woman called me again asking for my wife...i said that she became upset when i told her about what she said and went up to bed...this woman said that she needed to speak with my wife very much, and would call again in 5 minutes to give me time to alert my wife of her call..... i went to our bedroom, and my wife said she had nothing to say to this crazy woman...i said okay.......this Ukranian woman begn to call......she called several times to my wifes cell, then she called me back....i answered simply to tell this woman that my wife had no intentions of speaking with her at this time.....but.... before i could get it out...this woman told me that my wife was only looking for a green card...wanted to divorce me, and bring her ex boyfriend from Russia...move to California where his friends would set them up in business...she said that she knew i loved my wife, but that i was a big boy, and she knew i could handle it.....i said i had heard enough, and goodbye...she said that she would never speak to my wife again.....i said okay..goodbye........ i was pissed...i didn't know these women.......all i knew was that i had a great and loving relationship with my wife...but i was still extremely angry...it was about 10.30pm on saturday night, i decided to wait until morning to speak about this to my wife....... sunday morning arrives, i make coffee and tell my wife all that had happened the night before....she could not believe what she heard...she then began to tell me about these women....these women asked many questions about my job, how much money i made, and many what i consider personal questions about my previous marriage etc..... my wife said these women in the past 2 weeks had begun to question my love and committment to my wife and children...they said that i was holding back documents for my wifes AOS, social security number,etc....they told my wife to check all the mail that came to my house, and look at all possible hiding places.....they told my wife maybe i was tired of the children, and i was a good looking man that maybe wanted a new woman and i would send my wife back to Russia....... i remember in the last week, i was home early and saw my son looking through the mail....i joked and said....there is nothing for you...give me the mail......he continued looking....i thought it odd, but said nothing..... my wife and i have a strong bond, we talked it out....my wife is always very loving and attentive towards me.....i could not be happier with my life....my wife told me that she thought maybe this woman wanted me, and tried to break our marriage so that she could take my wifes place....i don't know...it is all too crazy to me........remember, all of this happened in less than 30 days.... i guess i wrote this long drawn out experience to alert others.....just because your wife/fiance may meet other people from their homeland, it doesn't mean that they are looking out for her best interest, i don't, and maybe never will understand their motive.....the only thing i can think of is that i was going to be set up by these women in someway in florida...but when they knew my friends were coming, maybe their plan was foiled, and they just wanted to unleash poison to possibly cause problems in our marriage........ i truely hope this made sense to all, and that i did not bore everyone too much......... |
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Originally Posted by Chuckles
You realize that skinsfan's wife left him, accused him of abuse, and got back together with her ex-boyfriend, just as the woman told him she would? Right?
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Originally Posted by Chuckles
He posted it on another public message board.
I came over here and saw this and I can't help but be a little shocked. He probably should have been given some advice back then to look into this a little farther. Hindsight is 20/20, but wow, what a red flag, don't you think? I wish for his sake something could have been done a year ago and he not end up in the undesirable posistion he is in now. I guess the lesson is, don't always be the 'nice guy'. Don't let yourself be taken advantage of. Its tough, I know. You want to trust people completely, but you just can't. |
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Originally Posted by inlove
Interesting development ideed. Which other public board we are talking about, Chuckles?
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Originally Posted by inlove
Wow!
One more case to add to your list, Ham. |
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well, where do i start.....friday, my wife said she was going to a chiropractor at noon...she was in an auto accedent march 30th....she never came home until the next day at noon with the police to remove her things...WOW !!!..........i had paid for my wife to go back to russia for three weeks (2nd 3 wk trip in 12 months) i stayed at home with her kids and catered to their every need....whe she arrived back on may 3rd, i went out and bought her a new car, the last car was destroyed in the accedent...that was 2 1/2 wks ago....she began speaking on the phone in russian very often, and meeting her russian girlfriends...i heard her speaking to a man in russian on the phone, and she said it was a friends boyfriend who needed advice....i am not one to be jealous, so i let it go....whe she came back from russia, she said she had to go to the russian embassy for a transfer of property...that appt is today. bottom line, we never had any problems or arguments, other than normal disagreements in marriage...i don't know if she has received her green card...she was on fbi name check...but i was always at work when the mail arrived at the house...i tend to think i was duped.....i wish all good luck...it has been a tough long weekend, and i know she has received help because she has no job....., as far as money, she has helped herself to my wallet daily for 1 1/2 yrs...don't let my sad story influence your lives...i truely wish all of you love and happiness...... thanks for all of your kind words...please everyone, don't let my sad story influence your lives...i only want people to pay a little closer attention to any signs..love is blind, and i trusted without question....now i see that i was in love with a mirage, an idea....i have definitely turned the page...i only worry about keeping my good name....this domestic violence thing is a scary issue...but, i know i was a good and loving man that provided well for the family... the judge denied her 1st petition on the 29th of may, for lack of evidence, so hopefully that is a good sign for me....please..for those of you that are in a relationship, or starting one.....don't give up on your dream because of what you read on any forum......again, i thank you all for your kind support !!! |
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Originally Posted by ham
it isn't nice talking that way.
from the post: i really feel sorry for that person, who really thought he had created a bond and wanted to work for it. I know it cannot happen to me for many reasons, now, but it is another warning to all clowns who waste time throwing stones at me: life won't be as easy as typing on a computer screen. |
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
Hi everyone...i tried to post again, but i got another dumb attack and couldn't find how to log on a new post !! yes, i am ashamed that i made the mistake...but that doesn't mean that all should worry about their situation...i am not here to bash fsu women, or any women....i cannot cry in my beer, i simply must protect myself....we have been on fbi name check for almost a year, and i guess the green card was not coming fast enough for her, so she left friday and arrived with the police on saturday....i also received a domestic violence summons on tuesday..
for those who don't know...domestic violence creates a fast trac for a green card....now i must defend myself which isn't easy ... men in this situation are presumed guilty unless they can prove otherwise...my life has been turned upside down, and all i can think of is to try and save my good name...thanks to all for your good wishes to me..... i will survive !! |
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
i wonder if she staged any injuries or doctored any photos of such supposed injuries? but as inlove said, how would she have any documentation without a trip to a doctor and/or emergency room? wonder what kind of slimy lawyer might represent her???
pb ps NOW she deserves a beating! |
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
i wonder if she staged any injuries or doctored any photos of such supposed injuries? but as inlove said, how would she have any documentation without a trip to a doctor and/or emergency room? wonder what kind of slimy lawyer might represent her???
pb ps NOW she deserves a beating! |
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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
No one deserves a beating
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Originally Posted by Jerico
No wonder these women think American guys have money to burn.
My wife thought the average US wage was 12000 dollars a month. Jerry |
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Originally Posted by ham
Never trust anyone.
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Originally Posted by tonton
Geez ham, don't know you from a piss in a pond. What happened to you? Talk about friggin negativity. Very bad mindset I think.
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
please...i don't want to create arguments between members about my situation....i also don't want others to worry about their relationships...i only want tp share my story so that people can be more aware....for myself, i will never look abroad again....in fact, at this time, i have no desire to look anywhere...as far as stopping the petition, she removed all of the docs, and i don't know any of her A# (alien number) i don't even know how to start to stop the petition....if anyone has idea's, i would greatly appreciate it.... thanks...
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
please...i don't want to create arguments between members about my situation....i also don't want others to worry about their relationships...i only want tp share my story so that people can be more aware....for myself, i will never look abroad again....in fact, at this time, i have no desire to look anywhere...as far as stopping the petition, she removed all of the docs, and i don't know any of her A# (alien number) i don't even know how to start to stop the petition....if anyone has idea's, i would greatly appreciate it.... thanks...
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
yes, june 29 2006....we have been under fbi name check since that time....
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Originally Posted by Ms.Smarty Pants
Skinfan! My God! I was not on this forum a lont time. My God! That is a horrible thing she has done... . I am crying after reading your story. Skinfan, I am almost without words.
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Originally Posted by Ellen
I wonder too what should woman has done such suspesiouse to make FBI to get intetrest in her lier , or is it common practice in a case with foreigner brides?
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| I wonder too what should woman has done such suspesiouse to make FBI to get intetrest in her lier , or is it common practice in a case with foreigner brides? |
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Originally Posted by ham
fraud, circumvention and misrepresentation...all criminal code items.
However, the west is bulldyke & liberal, and it is unlikely a man will get reparation; women might just fabricate some bogus story of "abuse", which might very well be eminently "psychological", and a cohort of lefty lawyers, liberal judges and minority scholars will tribute a standing ovation. So fraud & circumvention aren't worth investigation (irrespective of authorities actually doing so or not, and why so or not so ), while you think men who travel abroad to have sex are worthy of contempt?? |
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I was under impression FBI had some "other" business to occupy their workers than to investigate somebodies wifes. Ah I should stop to watch X-files even if like Mulder very much |
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Originally Posted by ham
Well, if that is just "somebody's wife", then what you call "sex tourists" are just "someone's sex partners"...wrong logic?
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
yes, june 29 2006....we have been under fbi name check since that time....
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Originally Posted by Ellen
I wonder too what should woman has done such suspesiouse to make FBI to get intetrest in her life , or is it common practice in a case with foreigner brides?
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
thanks for clarifying that inlove. i'd guess many people were wondering what skinsfan meant when he said her name was being watched by the FBI. i certainly was.
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If yor name is John Smith, you are screwed. They will be checking your name until the cows come home.
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Originally Posted by inlove
Yeah. Let me put it this way.
If yor name is John Smith, you are screwed. They will be checking your name until the cows come home. |
Seems ta be the right thing ta do these days. Thought I would also mention...My wife has been reading antidate the last few days...she seems ta think there's a decent group of people there.
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Originally Posted by Ellen
Anyway the main my point - in conection with orignal topic of this thread- is if YOU yourself managed to pick up WRONG woman ( because YOU paid attention only to her hot look, because YOU were in a hurry as YOU could not make enough visits to FSU to know her better , because YOU thought that your better life style in developed western country could buy her love, if YOU ..... ) then no "bad" Russian female friends, no "bad" internet forums and sites could be blaimed for your failed marriage. ( PS I don;t say that SHE should not be blaimed as well)
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
yes, june 29 2006....we have been under fbi name check since that time....
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Originally Posted by Northernlight
Skinsfan, it is comming up to a year soon, is your wife now an ex-wife?
Was she able to get anything that you had acquired such as your business holdings etc? Kirk |
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Originally Posted by Ellen
Anyway the main my point - in conection with orignal topic of this thread- is if YOU yourself managed to pick up WRONG woman ( because YOU paid attention only to her hot look, because YOU were in a hurry as YOU could not make enough visits to FSU to know her better , because YOU thought that your better life style in developed western country could buy her love, if YOU ..... ) then no "bad" Russian female friends, no "bad" internet forums and sites could be blaimed for your failed marriage. ( PS I don;t say that SHE should not be blaimed as well)
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Originally Posted by inlove
The reason nobody has commented on this is because you are so off in your knowledge about skinsfan's situation, and so obviously aggressive with your attitude, that it will take a very dedicated and persistant person to enlighten you with the details. Plus, I'm not sure if skinsfan wants us to start discussing his family situation in this manner. By the way, I did not see where he blamed "bad" russian female friends or russian forums in what had happened to him.
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
hi all...just an update...she never came to court for domestic violence..case dissmissed.....i have not read all the posts since i have last posted...but, again, i am, and never will say bad things of russian, or any other women...i went to russia to see my wife 3 times,
spoke to her everynight...i thought i knew her..but i did't... i thank you all for your support...it has been a tough coupe of weeks... |
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Originally Posted by inlove
The reason nobody has commented on this is because you are so off in your knowledge about skinsfan's situation, and so obviously aggressive with your attitude, that it will take a very dedicated and persistant person to enlighten you with the details. Plus, I'm not sure if skinsfan wants us to start discussing his family situation in this manner. By the way, I did not see where he blamed "bad" russian female friends or russian forums in what had happened to him.
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
Hi all, again..thank you for all of your kind thoughts and wishes !!
unfortunately, my situation is far from over. my wife failed to appear at the first dommestic violence hearing, but she re-filed for another, and you can't imagine the charges she made. it was incredibly filled with horrible lies. Satan would be a better man than she portrayed me. the case was about 1 week ago, but her lawyer spoke with my lawyer, and the hearing was never held.. It is ashame, because i had the time to build my case, and i felt very comfortable with my documentation. i cannot at this time go into all because her son has been hacking into my computer, and i don't want to let her have the opportunity to know what i have compiled. to answer some earlier questions, looking back, i did see signs...but they were subtle, and i didn't really think too much about them. when you are married, you don't think of being the detective. that being said, if i had to do it again, i would not have been so gulable. i will keep everyone posted as things develop. again, i want to strongly state that i don't want anyone else to be afraid of their relationships...i hope that mine was unique, and that it never happens to anyone else...it is the only reason that i am sharing my situation with others. again, thanks to all for your kind support...it really helps !! |
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
to answer some earlier questions, looking back, i did see signs...but they were subtle, and i didn't really think too much about them. when you are married, you don't think of being the detective. that being said, if i had to do it again, i would not have been so gulable.
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Originally Posted by skinsfan
i cannot at this time go into all because her son has been hacking into my computer, and i don't want to let her have the opportunity to know what i have compiled.
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