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Russian girlfriend/ lady hesitant to speak on the telephone; wants to visit America
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Posted by: ShawnEW

Hello, I have been corresponding with a girl from Rostov, Russia.
We have exchanged 8 emails and the last one I received told me how much she loved me and wanted to be with me asap. She said that she is going to look into what to do as far as passport and visas in order to come to america..I have asked that she call me or myself call her but she said phones are expensive.. She said that she uses her bosses computer to email me. I asked her to give me a phone number and a time and i would call her.. Can you give me any suggestions as how I can call her.

Thank you
Shawn

Posted by: exlabman

Shawn,

It sounds like you need to read a lot more of the archives on scammers. The approach this lady is taking with you is a very typical type scam. It is almost impossible for a young lady from Russis/FSU to get a visa of any kind (other than K-1) to visit USA.
Do not send money to anyone until you have met them and spent time together.

Larry
Atlanta

Posted by: ShawnEW

Larry, I do appreciate your candid response.. I trully am a man of intellegence and do not find her affection odd. She is the one that wants to visit me first in America. Now because I feel that it is most important that two people should first meet, I am not concerned with where this meeting takes place.. I do believe the wisdom makes more sense economically for her to come here and if wqe decide that we are compatible it saves me the possible expense of time away from my job as well as a round trip ticket. I was only asking if someone could help me in any suggestions as to how I can guide her so that I can call her. Again thank you Larry for your concern.

Shawn

Posted by: bassinfool

If you give her the number on it she could use it to phone you. There are several out there but she would need to find one that will work in her area. That way if it is a scam your not out but for the card. If she is not willing to locate a phone to dial you for free thats a big red flag. Just make sure you check to see the regulations and if it will work in her area.
good luck
Brent

Posted by: ShawnEW

Yes, that is a very good Idea, I will do exactly that and as you said I will then knoe her true intentions. Again thank you

Shawn

Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Shawn.... Welcome to the Russian Meeting Place forums...

From Lena and my experience with Russian women and Russian-Western relationships, a Russian woman who wants to get to know you better may feel shy and fearful about you calling her, but really should be able to give you her phone number so that you can call her...

Especially since she expressed how much she wants to meet you, she really should be able and willing to give you her telephone number.

If she does not give you her phone number to call her, and how no good reason for this, and yet she expresses how much she wants to be with you, I would be suspicious and very cautious...

Also... she has only exchanged 8 emails with you, and her strong afffection of wanting to come to America after this few correspondenaces would also raise suspicion in my mind...

Regarding coming to the U.S. on a tourist visa... you can tell her that it is virtually impossible for her (being a single Russian woman) to receive a tourist visa to come and see you.

I think that, if you would like to know her better, you need to speak to her on the phone, or at least to write detailed emails for a few more months.... If she is not willing to do these things, then I personally would move on...

But, you must make the best decision for yourself.

Good luck,

Khashyar

Posted by: exlabman

Shawn..........The picture you had posted which I guess you edited out is a picture of a know scammer. Go to the web site womenrussia.com and and check out the "scammers" list, you will find that same picture under several names. Drop her like a hot potato. Sorry.....

Larry
Atlanta

Posted by: ShawnEW

Larry,

Thank you for the info.. I have 8 photos of her she gave me an address by which i sent some trivial Items to. Nothing important the cost was 3.90 so no worries there. Though i am finding something odd. She has never asked me for money nor concerned herself if I decided to jump on a plane tomorrow.. though she is claiming to be in Rostov, russia now. I will play with this a little bit more and see if we can get he/she/they in some trouble. I have given her my phone number, though she can not use it to call anyone unless she has a pin.. My last email advised her to call me collect asap, or no more correspondence.. I'll keep you updated
Thanks again

Shawn

Posted by: ShawnEW

Larry,

One more thing within these 8 photos their is not only 2 of them with men one is supposed to be her dad, the other her friends boyfriend but there is backround of an art gallery and in the other kind of a social gathering with many others in the back ground. Is there someone that this could be sent to that would recognize these locations.. They are very nice photos. Professional photos always reveal one thing a comprehensive and complex perfection that cheap cameras do not expose. In otherwords I am new to this and will continue my search of a soul mate. But we must stop these photos from luring men to send money. Can you help? I can send these photos to your email address.

Shawn

Posted by: klawsite

Shawn,

Go to the russianblacklist.com site and have her pictures and email posted there!! They are a great site for listing scammers.
Sorry about the tough luck!

Kevin

Posted by: ShawnEW

Kevin, Thanks fot the info, but I am going to play this to the fullest, Maybe i will be able to discover even more..I did go to the suggested website and found her photo, not one that I have but never the less her. They claim her photos were stolen. She is actually a model. Wow I guess I was living in another world

Anyways whom ever this is will be quite disapointed when I am done with them

Shawn

Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Shawn...

I'm glad that you found out that she was known to have "scammed" before you sent her money...

The majority of Russian women seeking a relationship over the internet are honest people with good intentions... It takes time and patience to get to know someone's character who you are correponding with over the internet, and fortunately, you have learned about her apparent character before becoming too involved and investing too much of your time, emotions, and money.

Remember that there are many good women out there...

Khashyar

Posted by: klawsite

I second what Khashyar had to say. It took me numerous messages and even talking on the phone to realize that Nadya was that special woman I was looking for. It takes more than a handfull of messages to get to that point.

I'm just glad you weren't scammed!! That is one of the advantages of using the forums! They are here to help in relationships, but they also help us to find answers such as yours as well!

Kevin

Posted by: ShawnEW

Hello, I want to thank you so much for theses words. I Responded to her with my concerns that the photos that were being sent to me have been envolved in a scam. Then I expressed the importance of a phone call to speak about this over the phone. This is how her or whomever this is responded. Tell me what you think.

Shawn

Greetings my love. I am very strong to love you and without you and
your letters, me it is very bad. I to require you and in your words.
You to love me and this biggest happiness in the world. I am very
strong to wait our meeting and to think, that it will be fast. I to
want to speak with you, a kiss of you long long to go with you to
cinema. Up to a meeting with you, my life was monotonous. I to not
have happiness with the loved person. I to search the love, but these
searches have not resulted me in it. I to receive only disappointment.
Each day I to think about life and to see, that I of nothing to cost
in this world and to me it was very bad. But I to not want to
recollect, that was earlier. I have you and more than nothing it is
necessary to me. Without you and your love, my heart it will be empty
on always. I to know, that you to see it and to want me. We to like
each other and we should be together. I to wait this moment. My
English not yet well, but I to study each day. I shall wait for your
letter and to trust in our meeting. I love you my Prince. Your Elena.

p.S. Who that uses my photo

Posted by: klawsite

Hi Shawn,

If you still want to pursue this, go to russianblacklist.com.
They have a service that does back ground checks. I never felt the need to use them but in this case it may not be a bad idea. For 10 dollars they will do a check on the ladies address and who it is really registered to by the Russian government. For 20 dollars they will do a check on not only her address but her official name and ID with the Russian government to find if it actually exists. For $60 they will deliver flowers to her at a time when she will be available and will take pictures of her receiving the flowers do the background check and an informal interview of the lady.
This is just a thought should you want to pursue her true identity.
Better to spend $20 or $60 dollars to find out whether the women actually exists or not than to spend hundreds and find out she does not! Since her pictures have been identified as a known scam, I of course would be highly skeptical. But it is not impossible that her picture was stolen from a site and used with out her knowledge. I will say that I doubt that this is the case!

Kevin

Posted by: pharmrep2

I could see that she answered your concerns about a phone call and photos been used in a scam. hehehe been sarcastic

Posted by: ShawnEW

Pharm

Yes, whomever this is is not willing to talk on the phone. Though even as i have confronted this person they still respond, isn't that odd. I will continue to respond to her messages but i will never send any money. I even told her that if she could wait a couplu of weeks I could meet her and help work out the details. She never answered me. I would of expected her to at least say yes or no.. But she acted as if I never even said it, How strange.

Shawn