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Originally Posted by deccie
I'll disclose what the birthday present is at the end of the report!
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Originally Posted by Wanderer
Lets hope it's not an engagement ring!
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Originally Posted by deccie
Ahhh.. no. It's not that!
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Originally Posted by deccie
Thanks for all the good wishes guys.
I'm sitting in my hotel room in Helsinki at the moment. Finland is a pretty amazing place on it's own and I shall have to come back here and see more. The trip over was hell. It was just too long. I spent over 30 hours travelling. Thank God I have the break here. For anyone who has their partner do the reverse trip out to Australia I personally would not get them to do it on their own. Tomorrow is the big day. I need to call K a bit later tonight when she's due back from work to let her know all is ok and I'm here. Hong Kong Air Port is incredible. To get the place in perspective, I got to try out the British Airways/Qantas lounge. It's on LEVEL 7! The place is huge. Certainly had the largest number of 747's in one place I have ever seen. First impression is that the place is clean (airport certainly is) but if you look closer you can see a lot of pollution in the surrounding area. I saw an oil slick surrounding one ship as we flew in. I suspect I also saw a significant amount of sewage effluent too. I also got a vibe about the place due to (I think) it being a regulated society. We also stopped at Bangkok but it was too late to see anything. One thing I should have expected but didn't was that our flight path took us over Afghanistan. Too late and too high to see anything though. The hotel I am staying at here is basic but that's fine. If it stays like this for the return trip I'll have no qualms using it again in the future. Other than that, nothing major to report apart from I have picked up the sniffles from being cooped up in air conditioning with a lot of other people for hours and hours. I'm quite glad I got my flu needle a month ago. Tomorrow Russia! |
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Originally Posted by markgm
Hey Dec thats what i said mate its a bloody long haul over there i travelled for 32 hours then was faced with a 12 hour train trip.
Goodluck mate and enjoy yourself. |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Gee Mark,
What an introduction for Nat - the good old Aussie BO! I'm heading off to the airport in about an hour. Called K but she wasn't home yet and the mother does not speak English - but I understood what she was trying to say, and then it got too late and I needed sleep. I've not been able to raise the guys picking me up at the airport either. The sniffles are pretty much gone - I hope they stay that way. |
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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking
Come on mate, seriously hurry up and take some time out and let us know how you are going. Your mates, well I am anyway, are waiting on word.
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Originally Posted by markgm
If the hooks are in Oz Dec wont have time to get to his laptop
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Originally Posted by firemansam
LOL!
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hehe why you laugh cooky boy by the time the curse has done you in, you,ll be so knackered you won,t even feel the hook lol
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Originally Posted by deccie
Hi Guys,
Just to let you know I'm ok and in St Petersburg. There is a lot happening. There is a lot of good and some bad too. I've been given a lot of good advice from those around me. K and I have met and have spent a lot of time together but I have a lot of thinking to do until I know where we are going.. Mark and Bob, things are a bit different to your own experiences. I'm on time limited dialup here so I'll keep it brief. Thanks again guys. Talk soon. |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Yeah Sam, you got some of it right.
Monetary expecations are an issue. |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Thanks Guys.
There's something more at work here I just don't know what it is yet. The phrase that comes to mind is "sense of entitlement". But even that does not adequately describe what's happeneing. This girl has managed to piss off most of the people I have here to help me. If only I didn't like some of her quirks so much this would be a hell of a lot easier. Together we are really really good -sometimes. I go for the eccentric type and this is defintely one of those! |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
i hope you can resolve your issues but also remember to look at the big picture too.
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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking
Very wise words Father Bob.
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Originally Posted by firemansam
What am I, Scotch mist? KIDDING!!
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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking
With some of the things you come out with mate I was thinking more Scotch Whisky. Sorry that must be what you are drinking, and the brand name is Heather Mist, my old man loves it. lol.
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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking
Very wise words Father Bob.
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Originally Posted by firemansam
What am I, Scotch mist? KIDDING!!
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Originally Posted by firemansam
What am I, Scotch mist? KIDDING!!
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Originally Posted by markgm
I'll stick with the Johnny Blue Label
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Originally Posted by deccie
Hi Leum,
That's the thing. It's not materialism. It's the way she wants to be treated that's the problem. Basically, to put it bluntly, I know there are problems. What is to be decided is can I live with those problems or not. Are they deal breakers? I just like this girl too much to think straight right now. What I need to try to find out is what her agenda is.. Remember I said I'll know what to feel when I get to look in her eyes? Well I did, and I looked deep and I'll never forget how that felt.. |
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Sounds like you are between a rock and a hard place Deccie, these women can make you melt when they look at you!! take a step back, take a breather and gather your thoughts together , decide what you really want, is it worth pursuing or is it just too much risk. Would you like to spend the rest of your life with this women??
But!! follow your head not your heart and good luck Chris |
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That's the thing. It's not materialism. It's the way she wants to be treated that's the problem. Basically, to put it bluntly, I know there are problems. What is to be decided is can I live with those problems or not. Are they deal breakers? |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
deccie,if you have to think about it,it may not be a good sign.If there are problems this soon,what will it be like later.
Sorry I had to say that. Randy |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Randy, your exactly right. What I just don't know are whether the problems I'm experiencing are enough to make me say no.
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Originally Posted by deccie
Sometimes that pays dividends. Sometimes it doesn't.
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Originally Posted by deccie
Hi All,
No, thanks I appreciate all the comments and I don't disagree with any of them. I know what the safe option is here... but I have this habit of not chosing the safe option. Sometimes that pays dividends. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the most interesting people in my life have been someone I should never have been with and in the strictest sense of things should have walked away from. Of one thing I am sure, green card seeker is a definte NO. (-: The maddening thing is the chemistry when we are together. It actually works really, REALLY well. Bob, Mark, this is going to sound strange.. but I have never been looking for the sort of relationships you have with your Nats. That has never been what I wanted. Oh well, I am going to see her later today. I'll keep you all informed. Thanks for the support. |
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Originally Posted by firemansam
And no matter what anyone would tell you deccie, you are the only one who knows what will make you happy and how much you can live with/without.
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Originally Posted by deccie
"You fascinate me, you intrigue me, you frustrate me".
All those things are as true today as they were then. |
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Originally Posted by deccie
You know Randy, your exactly right again. I have made my decision.
For this trip at least, she's the one. I have no plans to contact any other women until this thing at least runs it's course. That does _not_ mean I am walking down the isle any time soon. Today was a great day and K did a very good job of budgeting. This trip has been an absolute blast. I am so glad I came no matter the result here AND I've seen a little of how real russians live instead of the inside of a hotel. I've ridden micro buses on my own and gone shopping in the local shopping centre. I bought flowers from the local shop for her too. I've even been in the Metro during rush hour. All amazing experiences. All I can say to the other guys is: Do your research Plan your trip and COME! Don't rush it - plan it. The other comment I'd like to make is that this trip has made me see how right a lot of Jill's, Inlove and Tats posts are even though some of the guys here get upset at some of them. Ladies, this trip has given me even more respect for your posts. I have three more days in Russia. I'm going to be sad to leave. |
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
hello decie,
did i miss something? what are the issues you are speaking of? thanks for posting, but can you give some details please? thanks, pin boy have a safe return |
LOL you know what I meen.
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
hello decie,
did i miss something? what are the issues you are speaking of? thanks for posting, but can you give some details please? thanks, pin boy have a safe return |
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Originally Posted by deccie
I did a whole trip diary thing but I found I just could not hit the post button!
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Originally Posted by deccie
Yeah, I know PB.
But I do feel like it would be invading her privacy to post those details. I've confided in one member here who knows whats going on via pm. I did a whole trip diary thing but I found I just could not hit the post button! |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Things between K and I are still complex.
What I will say are that going by the "strict" "rules of etiquette" for this game would probably end any relationship. |
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
i'm sorry that some problems have arisen in this meeting, but this is all too cryptic for me to be interested at this point in this thread. not trying to be callous, but just not getting anything of substance, which of course is dec's preroggative.
pb |
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
i'm sorry that some problems have arisen in this meeting, but this is all too cryptic for me to be interested at this point in this thread. not trying to be callous, but just not getting anything of substance, which of course is dec's preroggative.
pb |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi pb
the substance is there if your an aussie, other than that your going to have to read fiance thread ,hehe the 1 with 126 pages, then you will understand what is happening here aussies are a very different mob, we may not be personal friends or even have met but we will back each other to the hilt. it is our nature & we will have a dig,poke fun, threaten, etc but will support eachother to the max you can be absolutely sure dec will think it through cheers bob |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi pb
the substance is there if your an aussie, other than that your going to have to read fiance thread ,hehe the 1 with 126 pages, then you will understand what is happening here aussies are a very different mob, we may not be personal friends or even have met but we will back each other to the hilt. it is our nature & we will have a dig,poke fun, threaten, etc but will support eachother to the max you can be absolutely sure dec will think it through cheers bob |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi pb
the substance is there if your an aussie, other than that your going to have to read fiance thread ,hehe the 1 with 126 pages, then you will understand what is happening here aussies are a very different mob, we may not be personal friends or even have met but we will back each other to the hilt. it is our nature & we will have a dig,poke fun, threaten, etc but will support eachother to the max you can be absolutely sure dec will think it through cheers bob |
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Originally Posted by firemansam
Well after a vote, the motion is passed.
We know what's going on and those who have not read the "big" thread are in the dark..... And so say all of us, and so say all of us. For he's a jolly good deccie, for he's a jolly good deccie... hahahaha |
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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking
WTF.
lol |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Dec,maybe you are over thinking the situation,just go and have fun and see if things fall into place.
Randy |
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
Pinboy...I believe it is quite plain what is going on! Those who have experienced it or have confidants with the same problem completely understand. At least he is composing to your satisfaction!
Deccie....I actually wrote a long reply which I think would help you understand but the websight ate it. :-( I was disgusted and did not have time to repost it...then you seemed OK. Feel free to PM me if you would like some more insight. Regards, Spakoyna |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Well today I left Russia and am back in Helsinki.
I'm absolutely flogged. Mark, K did the same sort of thing that you experienced and hid my passport when it came time to go and then eventually she gave it back. When I left my suit cover at her place she said it was an omen I'm coming back. (-: I finally realised what was going on between us. Everything we did together had passion, something I am not used to. The sparks _really_ did fly. She told me that when she leant against me as we would go down the escalator in the Metro she got a buzzing feeling in the pit of her stomach. (-: Over time time I was there we fought like cats and dogs and then our good time was also incredibly passionate. The good time far outweighs the bad. (like 90/10) I have to say I want this girl... In no way does it remove the problems we have, but I want her. So, time for a second trip I think. Roll on August! |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Randy,
I think we should have a Dr Randy advice show. (-: I can just imagine the possibilities. When I relaxed and stopped trying to fix everything it got a whole lot better. |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
markgm,I was told by a girl from Russia that to give a watch as a gift would meen that the relationship would be short and not forever.
I guess alot of them believe this. So guys if you want to get rid of a scammer..buy them a watch...LOL Randy |
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
i didn't realize that only australians can understand english. thanks for clearing that up fellas. SHEESH!
pin boy |
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Originally Posted by AkMike
I am glad for you Deccie! Even with the headaches and heart aches it beats the nothingness of being alone.
Now you'll have a chance for a breather and be able to realisticly sort it all out! Good Luck and Have a safe trip back home. |
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
firemansam...i didn't bother deccie in any way. i merely inquired as to what was happening. i wish everyone well.
deccie, of course it's your preroggative as to what to disclose. all i did was innocently ask. if more to your story is in another thread, i didn't see it. is the approaching winter down under making you guys a little sensitive? pin boy |
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Originally Posted by deccie
pb this may be a public forum and this may be a public thread but I can certainly pick and chose what and to who I disclose information.
Given your response, I'm rather glad of that - moderator or no moderator. |
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Originally Posted by antoshka
OOOPS!! i've done it now!
last february i met my Larisa for the first time in vladivostok, and...............i brought with me many gifts for her ,including a GOLD WATCH!! she thanked me for it, and put it away in her drawer, she never wore it!! she already had a watch from her dad. but she said it was a beautiful watch. so how superstitous are they??? i planned my trip for 6 months,read everything about russian women including "how to marry a russian woman" by elena petrova. there was nothing anywhere about a watch bringing bad luck! how was i supposed to know?? we are engaged and we write or talk everyday, so according to russian superstition regarding giving watches to women..............how long have we got together??? |
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Originally Posted by deccie
Hi Bob,
Yeah I did. I think finally K is starting to beleive in me too. She's actually listening to me for a change.. and beleive me that's a huge change! |
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Originally Posted by antoshka
its a seiko.........so how do ya reckon FS?????
hehehe! |
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Originally Posted by antoshka
its a seiko.........so how do ya reckon FS?????
hehehe! |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
markgm,I was told by a girl from Russia that to give a watch as a gift would meen that the relationship would be short and not forever.
I guess alot of them believe this. So guys if you want to get rid of a scammer..buy them a watch...LOL Randy |
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Originally Posted by metaforest
There are a lot of these little superstitions in Russian culture, and they are taken very seriously. Kind of seems like little anti-social land mines laid all over the place.
Little things like giving the wrong number of roses (odd numbers only guys!) or the wrong color. Or worse yet the wrong flower. I don't know very many AW who even know that different flowers mean different things, and that one can say some very nasty things with some very pretty flowers! FSUW, in general, know things like this. Do your homework, and ask a lot of questions. =B-) |
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Originally Posted by markgm
Yeah your right Meta i asked Nat about all her superstitions last nite so I dont stuff up and boy theres a long list of them.
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Originally Posted by markgm
Hi Randy Nat said to me that i should never give her a watch as the time thats on the watch at the time it is given is how long the relationship will last. I can never buy her shoes, i can never buy her pearls as it means tears in the relationship, flowers that have even numbers, no yellow or orange flowers also while i was there sometimes i would sleep on my back but i would sleep with my hands crossed on my chest this really freaked her out and she would then spend the rest of the night waking me up every 1/2 hour to make sure i had not died.
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi mark, asked nat about these
she reckons us aussies take life to lightly & should heed there superstitions her mum told her today to put cabbage leaves under my knee guard,i laughed, copped it & hehe wearing the cabbage leaves keeps the peace lol |
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Originally Posted by firemansam
Mwaahahaha
Bill (Bob) and Ben.... pop up little weed... hahahahahahaha |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
when 1 of them gets hold of you ,your tune will change sailor man
easy to to be clever when you don,t have to go to bed with 1lol |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi mark, asked nat about these
she reckons us aussies take life to lightly & should heed there superstitions her mum told her today to put cabbage leaves under my knee guard,i laughed, copped it & hehe wearing the cabbage leaves keeps the peace lol |
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Originally Posted by markgm
He!!He!! I know Nat got me with a few strange ones but i said ohhhhh why not but remember the Chilli one Bob i draw the line at this one Oooooooooooooo sheezus the old fella still burns when i think about it.
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Originally Posted by firemansam
Hahaha maybe you are right Bob! Still I laugh.. Cabbage!! Mwahahahahah
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Originally Posted by markgm
Yeah your right Meta i asked Nat about all her superstitions last nite so I dont stuff up and boy theres a long list of them.
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Originally Posted by bobjf
mate they have so many home remedies it make your mind bogle
father inlaw said drink lots of vodka & do as your told its safer lol wise old russian |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi mark, asked nat about these
she reckons us aussies take life to lightly & should heed there superstitions her mum told her today to put cabbage leaves under my knee guard,i laughed, copped it & hehe wearing the cabbage leaves keeps the peace lol |
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Mark..why not just ask Nat what she is NOT superstitious of?
I remember when Iryna was here in the UK with me, I was helping her make a meal and was whistling, she kept telling me to stop it was bad luck, something about whistling indoors makes you loose all your money?? That was just one of maybe 10 superstitions I broke in three weeks, there was no hope for me really he he |
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
he he what happens when you take them out Bob, does she rustle up some Borsch with them!!
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
A truly unique and jealously gaurded secret recipe, now available in Australia it's Bob Marinade.....coming to a store near you soon!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by firemansam
It will be on the shelves next to Paul Newman's Salad Dressings... hahaha
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Don't laugh Paul has made tons of $$$$ out of it!!
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
he he what happens when you take them out Bob, does she rustle up some Borsch with them!!
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
A truly unique and jealously gaurded secret recipe, now available in Australia it's......... Bobs Cabbage Leaf Marinade.....coming to a store near you soon!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by bobjf
easy to see you pair of bums arn,t attached
will try the marinade out on you sailer man next barbi lol straight from the knee to you hey that can be my jingle hahaha |
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Originally Posted by firemansam
hahaha Birdseye, snap frozen, fresh for you.
Bob, straight fromthe knee to you... I like it mate!! Was wondering when you would read those posts.. lol! Did you get the email?? Sad to say we might have hijacked deccie's post a little here... |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
keep trying to get to the top my emails but but haven,t got there yet
why should this thread be any different ,i,m sure dec is haveing a cackel lol |
.........then we may aswell just have one BIG thread and talk about everything that crops up!!, much easier to keep track of things than having to jump around new threads all over the place.|
Originally Posted by Chrismc
Don't laugh Paul has made tons of $$$$ out of it!!
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Originally Posted by AkMike
You guys had better listen up! And Listen GOOD.
Weither or not you like borsht isn't the question it's wiether or not you like the woman that prides herself in making it! Compliment often and with all your heart! (You will learn to like it after a while. ) |
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Now back to the real topic:- A truly unique and jealously gaurded secret recipe, now available in Australia it's......... Bobs Cabbage Leaf Marinade.....sent straight from the knee to you!!
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Originally Posted by firemansam
Hey mark, chilli's? I can't remember reading about that.. Care to enlightn mai??
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Mark..why not just ask Nat what she is NOT superstitious of?
I remember when Iryna was here in the UK with me, I was helping her make a meal and was whistling, she kept telling me to stop it was bad luck, something about whistling indoors makes you loose all your money?? That was just one of maybe 10 superstitions I broke in three weeks, there was no hope for me really he he |
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Is this the new Aussie way, hi jack a thread and then go hell for leather so that the subject changes that often that no one knows whose thread it is or what it is meant to be about he he
.........then we may aswell just have one BIG thread and talk about everything that crops up!!, much easier to keep track of things than having to jump around new threads all over the place.Now back to the real topic:- A truly unique and jealously gaurded secret recipe, now available in Australia it's......... Bobs Cabbage Leaf Marinade.....sent straight from the knee to you!! |
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Originally Posted by AkMike
You guys had better listen up! And Listen GOOD.
Weither or not you like borsht isn't the question it's wiether or not you like the woman that prides herself in making it! Compliment often and with all your heart! (You will learn to like it after a while. ) |
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Originally Posted by AkMike
You guys had better listen up! And Listen GOOD.
Weither or not you like borsht isn't the question it's wiether or not you like the woman that prides herself in making it! Compliment often and with all your heart! (You will learn to like it after a while. ) |
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Originally Posted by Texas Proud
Actually, HE has not.... he gives ALL profits to charity... when you have as much money as he does you can do that.
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Originally Posted by markgm
Ahhhhh FS you will have to go back and read all the 100 odd pages now Ha!!!Ha!!!
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Originally Posted by antoshka
my larisa's borsht wasn't too bad, though it could of done with some meat..........would have tasted better.
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Originally Posted by bobjf
lol didn,t he just tell somelse to do his homework
no hints now hehehe |
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Originally Posted by AkMike
Personally I like that 'pink soup'. It took a bit to get used to it, but since I'm rather fond of the cook I kept eating it now I enjoy it.Tanya says that the Russians make a different kind than Ukrainians.
She makes 5 different types(all with meat) but they're all pink from the beets. BUT if it's cooked longer the pink goes away! |
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Originally Posted by firemansam
hahaha thanks Bob
Actually, after finding it again, I do recall his trip to the chemest now... |
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Originally Posted by firemansam
deccie should be back in Oz by now.... I wonder if we will see him here tonight
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