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Posted by: vic2012

Having added this posting to a previous thread, I thought it merited its own thread. So, here it is again:

Using Broadband?

Then all your calls to Russian land lines and mobiles should be FREE. You can speak for hours and not pay one cent. (and all calls to US land lines and mobiles are FREE too). No computer is needed at the other end of the line! This is to your loved one's HOME PHONES and MOBILES

see ConnorVT thread:
http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...read.php?t=7994

I downloaded VoIP from www.voipcheap.co.uk. Tried it out and it worked!

Now I'm going one better.
I bought a VOIP USB to RJ11/UK HOME CORDLESS PHONE ADAPTER (cost $20). It hasn't arrived yet, so I can't say if it works OK, but it will allow me to plug my normal cordless home phone into this box of tricks and then, make all my free calls from anywhere around the house and garden, as long as my computer is on.

Now I've also found a better provider: www.internetcalls.com

This is where you can call to, for free (not all these countries include free calls to mobiles):

Andorra
Argentina
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Chile
China
Colombia
Croatia
Cyprus
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Gibraltar
Hong Kong
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Malaysia
Monaco
Mongolia
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Panama
Peru
Poland
Puerto Rico
Russian Federation
Singapore
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Taiwan
Thailand
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
Venezuela

Calls to Ukraine cost only 2.4 cents a minute.(18 cents a min to mobiles)

Thank you Connor, I would not have discovered this without your help.


P.s I am not advertising any of the above. You can do a search on "cheapest voip" and find your own provider. I have posted this, for information purposes only



Posted by: Chrismc

Great info Vic.....how much to a mobile in the Ukraine??? but landline calls are a lot cheaper than I am paying now.

and when you get your HOME CORDLESS PHONE ADAPTER will you let us know how it goes. I assume you can have this working through a laptop also, do you happen to know?

Thanks for the info, I will take a look also as soon as I have time.

Chris



Posted by: vic2012

Yes Chris,

The adaptor has two cables, one USB to any computer or lap top and one to the phone socket. It also has a phone socket entry for the cordless phone, base unit.

You can then toggle between VoIP and normal calls, using the same phone. Sitting out on a deck chair in the garden (a little later in the year) making free calls to my beloved, sounds very good to me.

Ludicrous isn't it. You can ring some camel riding nomad, on his mobile, in Ulan Bator, in Outer Mongolia for less than calling the local take-away for a pizza



Posted by: Leprechaun

It works People...... It really works, I only got 1 min to my house phone, is this the same to russia?

does the recieving Russians get charged though?



Posted by: vic2012

You have to open an account and put about £10 in it, to get the unlimited calls. The tenner goes towards paying for calls that are not free (i.e. Ukraine)

As far as I am aware, apparently no charges are made to the person receiving the calls. Certainly not on the land line at least.



Posted by: Chrismc

Yes I would need to know if the receiving party gets charged on her mobile? If anyone knows.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Yes Chris,

Ludicrous isn't it. You can ring some camel riding nomad, on his mobile, in Ulan Bator, in Outer Mongolia for less than calling the local take-away for a pizza


What you doing calling a camel riding nomad in Ulan Bator he he



Posted by: ConnerVT

I'll throw some info into this thread, since I got credited for some of it up top.

-- Internetcalls.com is the latest/greatest incarnation of the Fineara company, which brought us Voipcheap, Voipstunt, etc. Actually, the newest one now is Voipdiscount.com, but who's keeping track? They all work the same, just some of the countries/prices change a little.

I went with Voipcheap as they seem to have kept Russian Federation as a free country, where some of the others have dropped it after some time. YMMV.

-- Without a paid account, you can typically only make a 1 minute telephone call, to basically test the sound quality. Once you establish an account (10 Euro or British Pounds, depending on the service) you may talk uninterrupted for one hour (59 min, 50 sec as my wife has discovered).

-- To countries on the "FREE" list, your account balance does not get debited (I still have £10 in mine). In 120 days, it is said that you will lose your remaining money unless you deposit more into your account. I have been monitoring several VOIP forums, and no one has yet reported losing any money. In the worst case, put another $10 or £10 in your account, and you are good for another 120 days.

-- All USB home adapters are not equal. The common denominator is that they are designed to work with Skype. USB telephones and adapters may/may be fully functional with other VOIP services. Most likely, the drivers for the sound in/out will work correctly, but dialing and other functions will not.

I also tried a different USB telephone the other day to replace my AU-100 (wanted a desk type telephone). The sound quality was not as good as either my AU-100 or my ZyXEL Wifi VOIP telephone. The dial pad buttons were only functional with Skype. I sent it back, even taking a 15% hit on restocking. It wouldn't pass the "Wife Test."

-- edit: Telephone calls are recieved by the other person just like any other telephone call they may get. So if you call a mobile phone that is usually charged for incoming minutes, it will cost them the same as if you direct dialed them from your home telephone. /edit

Vic, thanks for following up with some good info. I'm happy that it's working out for you. I haven't even tried to account for the free minutes my wife has put on the £10 in our account in the past two months, but it must be well over 3000 by now...



Posted by: scotch

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
Yes I would need to know if the receiving party gets charged on her mobile? If anyone knows.



My lovely Russian honey got charged for my incoming calls to her mobile phone, whereas she doesn't normally get charged for local calls to her mobile.

We ate through a month's worth of credit in 30 minutes!

So now she is looking for another mobile service provider that doesn't charge for incoming international mobile calls. Does anyone know a Russian telephone company that might offer this service?


As for my setup, I use VoIPcheap with a headset (a conjoined microphone and single-sided headphone) plugged into my computer. WindowsXP configured it all for me, though I had to turn up the microphone volume a little in the sound preferences.

Works really well, and I can also call any landline in Australia for free!

Bloody brilliant!

but yeah, get your girl to confirm with her comms company before you run up a massive bill on her mobile account.


Cheers!

scotch.



Posted by: SteveM

Bugger what happened to Belarus?



Posted by: Leprechaun

Ask the electorate!!!!


Im guessing soon we will be getting free calls worldwide from the net, let the overchaging mobiles pay for LL users =o) Only takes one major company to change for the others to follow (look at carphone warehouse giving free BB in England)



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leprechaun
Ask the electorate!!!!


Im guessing soon we will be getting free calls worldwide from the net, let the overchaging mobiles pay for LL users =o) Only takes one major company to change for the others to follow (look at carphone warehouse giving free BB in England)

If its the one I am thinking of it is FREE if you pay around £22/month for your phone line rental, although you do get free calls thrown in also. However,m they are the fisrt so others will follow soon., So a price war is expected sometime soon and about time too!!



Posted by: Leprechaun

yep thats the one, i thought it was 9.99, but its been in the papers and on the news here in the past few days.

Getting free LL calls and free very fast BB sounds good to me @ 22 per month, that price should come down from competition, i 2nd that about time too.



Posted by: ConnerVT

Quote:
Originally Posted by scotch
My lovely Russian honey got charged for my incoming calls to her mobile phone, whereas she doesn't normally get charged for local calls to her mobile.


Are the "...local calls to her mobile" originated from other telephones within the mobile telephone company's service (mobile or landline) or from other local companies that have an agreement with her mobile carrier?

Competition is fierce in the cellular telephone provider business, and the deals companies make can get confusing. It is likely that your lady would of been charged for the calls regardless of which service you used.

As for Belarus prices being outrageously high -- there are a few countries where the cost is driven by the government, as they have full control of the telephone system. Phillipines is another example. $0.25/min is pretty much the norm for Belarus, unfortunately...



Posted by: vic2012

The "free" broadband offer is subject to Carphone warehouse having access to your local exchange and being able to install the BB themselves. Many exchanges (mine included, of course) are solely British Telecom controlled.

The deal is this:

CW shared exchange £11 line rental & £9.99 all land line calls UK and some international & £0 Bband up to 8mb.

BT controlled exchange. Same, but plus £10 per month Bband.

So, it's a pretty good deal if you live in one of their areas.


I use Tiscalli and pay £14.99 for my BB incl wkend & eve calls plus £11 line rental. So if I use VoIP for my calls, I'm better off staying where I am.

Well, this is the UK set up.
What's the best deal Bband cost in US?



Posted by: swindoom

Remember when they advertise 8Mb they do not mean you will get 8Mb, just they will do there best to give what they can depending on how many users, since the 8Mb is usually shared with other people. The important information they avoid giving you is the contention ratio, this is the number of users allowed to use the shared BB connection at any one time, the higher the contention ratio the slower the BB.



Posted by: Leprechaun

Quote:
Originally Posted by swindoom
Remember when they advertise 8Mb they do not mean you will get 8Mb, just they will do there best to give what they can depending on how many users, since the 8Mb is usually shared with other people. The important information they avoid giving you is the contention ratio, this is the number of users allowed to use the shared BB connection at any one time, the higher the contention ratio the slower the BB.


I switched Providers yesterday, 3MB for 29 euros, tested it this morning hitting 2.68 =o) and thats going wireless to the server PC and wired Lan to mine!

id say im on a 48 contention

There wasnt a phone package with that, but our calls are cheap anyway, 4c a min to Russia.



Posted by: vic2012

Bit of bad news.
The adaptor arrived yesterday and I've spent most of today trying to get it to work. But no luck yet.

The problem is that, the software that came with it, is called Skypemate. Now I've got it to work fine with Skype and I can now use my home phone through the internet. You just start your call with a * in front of the number and the adaptor automatically routes the call through Broadband. So far, so good. But I still cannot get it to work with my voip (free calls) setup.

I've posted this problem on a voip forum. I'll let you know if this can be sorted.



Posted by: ConnerVT

Hate to say "I told you so" but...

Quote:
All USB home adapters are not equal. The common denominator is that they are designed to work with Skype. USB telephones and adapters may/may not be fully functional with other VOIP services. Most likely, the drivers for the sound in/out will work correctly, but dialing and other functions will not.


You have several options, none of them good. The easiest is if the adapter is supported by a softphone program. You can use your account that way. Otherwise, you will need a driver to be written (by the manufacturer, by a software developer that may wish to support it, or by you).

Or you can do as I did with my Skype-only phone -- send it back...



Posted by: vic2012

Connor, Unfortunately you told me so, after I bought it off ebay. So, I'll have to try and resell it there.

You are right, it transpires you must get an adapter with SIP technology. I found one for £22 on ebay. They actually say:
Skype have their own private technology and do NOT use the popular SIP protocol industry standard.

So, any adapter that says Skype, will not work.

Right I'm getting one of these. It still works out really cheap for all these free phone calls.

Thanks again for your advice



Posted by: ConnerVT

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
So, any adapter that says Skype, will not work.


I don't know if that is exactly correct. I haven't tried the adapters that you plug your own telephone into (edit: and plug into your computer's USB port), so the following is about USB telephones. But I think it applies in both devices.

You can look at the USB telephone as two separate devices:
1> A sound card with it's own speaker and microphone; and
2> A numeric keypad with some extra keys.

The sound card (which Windows will typically define as "Generic USB Sound Device") will work with most softphone applications out there. You just need to chose this device (rather than your normal sound card) for the program to use.

Getting your programs to accept input from the keypad portion of your device requires a driver written expressly for this purpose. As most of these things are being made for very little cost somewhere in China, not much is being written for them. That, and getting info is difficult, as most Western programmers don't read Chinese, and the Chinese can not use VOIP (ports are blocked in China).

This is why I am a big supporter of the AU-100 -- It's inexpensive ($20 or less), it has great sound quality, and it's supported by a number of different applications.

If you really want to use your own telephones, Voipcheap (or other SIP providers) as well as your POTS landline telephone, I'd suggest the Sipura SPA-3000. It will set you back about $100 USD, and it will do everything you wish (and much more)...



Posted by: scotch

Quote:
Originally Posted by ConnerVT
Are the "...local calls to her mobile" originated from other telephones within the mobile telephone company's service (mobile or landline) or from other local companies that have an agreement with her mobile carrier?



Hiya Conner,

I'm not sure of the answer to your question. But she made some queries to other Russian mobile carriers and they all said she would be charged for incoming international calls.

However, apparently this policy changes in July! ...just when I arrive in Russia for 2 months...d'oh! But at least I can call her landline for free.

Plus she is getting DSL internet installed (in Kirov) so we can chat our way into red-eye mornings...

cheers mate!

scotch.



Posted by: RUSSAIN ROGUE

All sounds good to me vic2012!! Your the man



Posted by: ConnerVT

UPDATE: As of May 2006, all of the Fineara companies (Voipcheap, Voipstunt, Internet calls, etc.) have capped their monthly usage to 20 hours a month.

So, what does this mean?

Once you go beyond 1200 minutes in a month, they will begin to charge you a yet to be disclosed "minimum rate" per minute, deducted from your account balance. Most guesses are that this will be about $0.01EUR/min.

So calls are not really "free" anymore. But they sure are cheap. My math in US dollars works as this:

Assuming it cost you 1/4 of your 10 EUR (or Pounds) deposit each month, and you use all 1200 minutes.

10EUR = $3.18USD = $0.00265/min
10BPS = $4.65USD = $0.00385/min

So as you see, it is still MUCH cheaper than most other alternatives!

If you do talk more than 1200 minutes a month, and assuming it will cost 1 Euro cent/minute after that, Once you go more than 1450 minutes a month, it is cheaper to open a second account, and just switch when you approach your limit (or the middle of the month, avoiding the need to count the minutes!).

A few other mini-updates:

There is a new Voipcheap service. So now there is Voipcheap.com and Voipcheap.co.uk (the original). The .com used to redirect to the .co.uk site. Now it is a separate site, and (like all Fineara sites) your accounts are exclusive (you can not sign in to a different one than you registered with).

I noticed on at least one site (I forget which) that credits expire in 90 days, and not 120 days like the other sites. Be sure to read the fine print at the bottom of the rate pages, and in the FAQs before you choose.

I hope the new info is helpful!



Posted by: Chrismc

Connor

Is
Quote:
10BPS = $4.65USD = $0.00385/min
meant to be British Pounds £ (GBP) if so should it not be 10GBP = $18.57USD ?????

Doesn't look right to me!!!



Posted by: firemansam

I have been busy trying to find the original reference that I looked at only a week ago, but I can tell you that to call a mobile in the FSU that is roaming from Australia, you not only pay your share of the bill, but the person getting the call also pays around $1.36AUD per minute that the call lasts. This is charged by the local carrier. I would assume that the locals also pay basically a similar charge... Nasty!!
Sam.



Posted by: swindoom

They actually contradicte themselves on their own website, 20 hours per month one place and 300 minutes per week another:-
" Max 300 minutes per week of free calls, measured over the last 7 days. Unused free minutes cannot be taken to the following week(s)".

Even at 1ct/min still cheaper than our landline and the voice quality is good.



Posted by: ConnerVT

Quote:
Originally Posted by swindoom
They actually contradicte themselves on their own website, 20 hours per month one place and 300 minutes per week another:-
" Max 300 minutes per week of free calls, measured over the last 7 days. Unused free minutes cannot be taken to the following week(s)".


That's the new rewording in the past 48 hours, as I was quoting the terms as of this past Sunday.

Thanks for the update.



Posted by: vic2012

UPDATE

The latest versions of USB to RJ11 Skype adapters now accept Voipcheap. You just have to download a small program called VoipBusterMate and you are all connected.

So, buy one of these cheap adapters (make sure it's Voipcheap compatible). Mine was $20.

Plug your cordless phone (dect or analog) into it and then from it, to the telephone wall socket. Connect the adapter to a USB port and thats it.

To make a call, you just dial as before. To make a free voip call (providing your internet is on) just add an * in front of the number.

The beauty of it is that, you can be in bed or relaxing in the garden and you can call the world for free*

* Well these anyway:

Australia free*
Belgium free*
Chile free*
Cyprus free*
Denmark free*
Estonia free*
France free*
Germany free*
Hong Kong free*
Ireland free*
Italy free*
Japan free*
Liechtenstein free*
Luxembourg free*
Malaysia free*
Netherlands free*
New Zealand free*
Norway free*
Panama free*
Puerto Rico free*
Russian Federation free*
Slovenia free*
South Korea free*
Spain free*
Sweden free*
Thailand free*
United Kingdom free*
USA (+mobile) free*

http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/rates.html
for rates elsewhere



Posted by: Chrismc

Vic or anyone else, how you getting on with Voicecheap? I am thinking of buying a Voip phone to start using, I need to be able to call the UK, Ukraine, Russia and the USA from it, do I just buy a Voip phone, download the Voicecheap programme, plug in the phone and start using it? or is there more to it than that? I know some of the above countries you have to pay for but it is still better than what I am doing now.

Also can you tell me what is the difference between Voip and Skype and if need be can both be used with a Voip phone. OR is it best just to use one or the other? I see phones advertisaed as Skype or Voip but not many withy both??

I want to try and get all this set up tomorrow latest as I have been spending a lot of time on the phone lately to different countries and I think this is the way to go.

BTW I don't have a traditional BT phone socket in the room I want to use this in, but I have a 8Mb ASDL broadband connection on my laptop (wireless via a router in another room) if this makes a difference???

Thanks for you help
Chris



Posted by: vic2012

OK Chris, lots of questions.

First. Skype is VOIP, but a pay version (but their rates are not too bad). All international calls to other Skype phones are free. The only advantage they have is that, they offer an answering service, when you're not on line.

Voipcheap has lots of free* international destinations (*6 hours a week). All UK national calls are 1p a min anytime.

You can have a free VOIP telephone number, which ever service you use. People calling you pay a local call rate. My number starts 0560. That really confuses people, especially companies, when you say thats your phone number.

You can have a VOIP phone, which plugs into a USB socket on your computer and thats it. They have come down in price a lot recently £5 for a fixed phone and £20 - £30 for a cordless (So, with a cordless, you can leave the computer on and go and talk from your bed, or anywhere else around the house).
Skype and Voipcheap use different systems to run their VOIP service. Make sure any equipment you buy, runs on both. (Skype equipment will only run on Skype)!

Or, you can have a VOIP adaptor, This turns your normal phone into a VOIP phone when you want (but you need to plug it into a phone socket, as well as your computer). Again, make sure it is dual purpose.

USA and Russia are free with Voipcheap, with USA just over a penny a minute and Russia at 2.7 p a minute with Skype. (Moscow & St.P is 1.2p min) And calling Ukraine is almost the same 7p or Skype 7.5p min.

Hope that helps. I'll talk to you more about it next week



Posted by: swindoom

Being pedantic, Skype is a proprietry VOIP standard in order to force users to buy "Skype" handsets. This is why standard VOIP equipment does not work on Skype.

We have been using voipcheap since recommended by Vic, 10 months with no problems. Rarely have a bad connection but just hang up and call again, that also happened when using BT's 42p min service.



Posted by: Chrismc

Great info guys and thanks, now if I have a wireless connection to my laptop from a router in another room, can I still use VOIP ok? (I don't have a nearby BT socket anywhere)

I have been using a cordless phone recently, for example last night I was on over 3 hours but the battery goes after about an hour, this is why I am now looking at alternatives. I don't want to go about buying new landline phones etc or getting sockets moved as I sold my house before Christmas so am back at my parents temporarily until I can buy a new place, (yes a bit of novelty first time in 25 years ) but I need to sort out this phone problem and VOIP seemed like the answer.

From what yuu say it looks like VOIP is the way to go.....I feel a trip to PC World or somewhere coming on this morning.



Posted by: Chrismc

Well I've just gone and bought a VOIP/Skype compatable cordless phone, just charging it up now, so I will be singing up for Voicecheap and see how it goes very soon.



Posted by: vic2012

Chris, I think you may have a Skype phone! It must say Voipcheap or Voipbuster compatible on it. Skype is VOIP, so a VOIP/Skype phone is usually just a Skype phone.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Chris, I think you may have a Skype phone! It must say Voipcheap or Voipbuster compatible on it. Skype is VOIP, so a VOIP/Skype phone is usually just a Skype phone.


Now I am totally confused...it's a New Link phone GT-1900u , says I can use it on Skype or Voip or PSTN line??



Posted by: vic2012

Chris, read the instructions. If it only tells you how to connect to Skype, then thats it.

When you download Voipcheap, there is a set up box for the sound. It normally defaults to your sound card. You need to change these settings to the phone driver (once you've loaded the phone, that option should be there automatically).
If you do that and you can hear sound on the phone, then you're OK.

I'm not up to date with the latest phones. Maybe someone else has some input



Posted by: Chrismc

Well I've been at it about 90 minutes now and nothing????? I can't get the phone to do anything, it just beeps, also I have downloaded VIOPCheap and put £10 credit it on it, it says I have 120 freedays left what is that all about?

I can call a phone via the dialpad on the VOIPcheap thing, but when I use the interent phone nothing. I have amended the settings to sound device C-Media USB Headphone set as the only other setting is VIA AC 97 Audio Wave.

Totally confused!!

My direct call back number I have as my mobile number does that make a difference?



Posted by: vic2012

I think it what I said before. If you cannot hear anything when you've entered the phone settings in voipcheap, then the phone may not be compatible.

Does it say anywhere on the box or instructions - voipcheap or voipbuster?

I know that, if you dowload Skype, it will work perfectly.

I dont know if anyone else has any answers.

The 120 days is how long you have to use your £10.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
I think it what I said before. If you cannot hear anything when you've entered the phone settings in voipcheap, then the phone may not be compatible.

Does it say anywhere on the box or instructions - voipcheap or voipbuster?

I know that, if you dowload Skype, it will work perfectly.

I dont know if anyone else has any answers.

The 120 days is how long you have to use your £10.

No it doesn't say anything on the box and the box is about to go through the window for a flying lesson one other thing, I have tried some test calls via the dial pad to different numbers and my account balance seems to be dropping very quickly. I thought to UK landlines was only about 0.010p/minute, I have not even spoken to anyone yet and it has dropped from the original £10 to £9.80ish



Posted by: Chrismc

Can I call using Skype to any landlines etc or do they also need Skype?



Posted by: vic2012

Yes, but you pay a little more.

If you have headphones and a mike, you can plug these into the sound card terminals on your computer and use up the Voipcheap money using the default settings. But unless anyone else has any bright suggestions, I think you have a phone that will only work with Skype.

Why not take it back and complain that, it doesn't work. Get your money back and buy a compatible phone on ebay



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Yes, but you pay a little more.

If you have headphones and a mike, you can plug these into the sound card terminals on your computer and use up the Voipcheap money using the default settings. But unless anyone else has any bright suggestions, I think you have a phone that will only work with Skype.

Why not take it back and complain that, it doesn't work. Get your money back and buy a compatible phone on ebay

I have played with it for hours now and cannot get it working at all. It says it can be used for both and I asked if it was compatable and they told me it was. So I am taking it back tomorrow I think.



Posted by: vic2012

If you've set it up on your laptop, take it with you tomorrow. These stores usually have at least one computer geek available, who could sort you out!



Posted by: Chrismc

Yesterday I went on ebay and asked four sellers if their VOIP phones were VOIPCheap compatible, none of them knew. Today I went and took the phone back, I also visited PC World, Maplins, Comet and Curry's and again none of them could tell me anything, in fact I knew more about VOIP than they did and I know nothing.

I even asked my techie at work and he was bamboozled. So if anyone has a phone that is compatible with VOIPCheap can you let me in on the secret



Posted by: EasyTarget

Chris:
went through their website and this is what I could find.
http://www.voipcheap.com/en/instructions.html#hard

VoIPCheap has selected, tested and certified various USB phones, headsets, routers and other hardware for your convenience. Click here for an overview.

When I click the link it goes to:
http://www.voipbuster.com/en/hardware.html
At the bottom of the page they list the specific USB telephones you can use with their service.
http://www.voipbuster.com/en/hardware.html#usb%20phones

I hope this helps.

Does anyone know if voipcheap would keep a call log of the calls you made, just in case you need proof that you made calls to the FSU.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Chris:
went through their website and this is what I could find.
http://www.voipcheap.com/en/instructions.html#hard

VoIPCheap has selected, tested and certified various USB phones, headsets, routers and other hardware for your convenience. Click here for an overview.

When I click the link it goes to:
http://www.voipbuster.com/en/hardware.html
At the bottom of the page they list the specific USB telephones you can use with their service.
http://www.voipbuster.com/en/hardware.html#usb%20phones

I hope this helps.

Does anyone know if voipcheap would keep a call log of the calls you made, just in case you need proof that you made calls to the FSU.

Thanks Easy I also say that yesterday, but I have done a search for the phones listed and I have only found a couple of places that sell them, they are quite expensive, sor of defeats the object of getting cheap calls. However, I have emailed one company and waiting to hear from them.



Posted by: vic2012

Hi Chris,

Been down in London today buying stock. So I've not been around.

Unfortunately, since I got sorted with voipcheap. I haven't been following all the changes.

I have an adapter, which I bought on ebay for about £15. But you have to have a BT phone socket.

If you look at this ebay sale in US:
190080456916
you will see what I mean. Look at the 'compatibility'. If it says Voipbuster, you're OK

It might mean a bit of searching, because the sellers always put Skype in the title.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
I have done a search for the phones listed and I have only found a couple of places that sell them, they are quite expensive


The Q Best phones are about 30 Euros. Not too bad.
http://www.qbestphones.com/shop/E_f...E_grp_11-1.html



Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by EasyTarget
The Q Best phones are about 30 Euros. Not too bad.
http://www.qbestphones.com/shop/E_f...E_grp_11-1.html

That is very cheap Easy...one last problem I really wanted a cordless phone, I know I know I am hard work Anyway I have emailed the company in Holland to see what they have to say.

Thanks guys for the help, I need to get this sorted soon I am spending so much time on the phone lately.

Chris



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Hi Chris,

Been down in London today buying stock. So I've not been around.

Unfortunately, since I got sorted with voipcheap. I haven't been following all the changes.

I have an adapter, which I bought on ebay for about £15. But you have to have a BT phone socket.

If you look at this ebay sale in US:
190080456916
you will see what I mean. Look at the 'compatibility'. If it says Voipbuster, you're OK

It might mean a bit of searching, because the sellers always put Skype in the title.


I don't have a BT socket, but that phone looks like it would do and they ship to the UK. I downloaded VoipCheap and added credit on Sunday, but VOIPbuster is a separate programme even though it is the same company I believe, do you know if there are any pros and cons or major differences between the two?

I will wait and see what the Dutch have to say now and then order from the US or Holland.

When I went around the shops here yesterday and mentioned Voipcheap and Voipbuster I may aswell have been speaking Martian problem is they man these large electrical stores with spotty 13 year olds who don't know what day it is



Posted by: Chrismc

I have ordered a new one tonight from ebay....so we'll see if that one works, spec says it does so fingers crossed.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
I have ordered a new one tonight from ebay....so we'll see if that one works, spec says it does so fingers crossed.

I am really curious on how well it works for you. I am starting to spend more time on the phone. A good sign, me thinks.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
I am really curious on how well it works for you. I am starting to spend more time on the phone. A good sign, me thinks.


I know what you mean Easy.....believe it or not I was told I had been on the phone nearly 5 hours the other day and that is for someone who hates using the phone unless for business.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
I know what you mean Easy.....believe it or not I was told I had been on the phone nearly 5 hours the other day and that is for someone who hates using the phone unless for business.

Yes and I am quite sure you did not even notice the time flying by. Good times, good times. I really don't like talking on the phone either. I avoid it. I much prefer email. However sometimes, phone conversations really help.

When are you going to visit again?



Posted by: vic2012

Easy,
Chris is going to Moscow 7th March (last I heard) and I'm off to St.P on 9th March. But we are meeting up tonight! Should be interesting.

BTW you wrote that you are in the airline business. Does that mean you get to travel for 10%?



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Yes and I am quite sure you did not even notice the time flying by. Good times, good times. I really don't like talking on the phone either. I avoid it. I much prefer email. However sometimes, phone conversations really help.

When are you going to visit again?


I am off 7th March to Moscow to visit, but it was not her I was on the phone too all that time, cannot say too much just now though things have just sort of happened in other directions at the same time



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Easy,
Chris is going to Moscow 7th March (last I heard) and I'm off to St.P on 9th March. But we are meeting up tonight! Should be interesting.

BTW you wrote that you are in the airline business. Does that mean you get to travel for 10%?


Yep still on for tonight Vic looking forward to it



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
BTW you wrote that you are in the airline business. Does that mean you get to travel for 10%?

Flying on my employers planes is free, unless international I then have to pay some taxes. I don't understand that part, but oh well.

On our code share partners I can fly for 10% of Y fare. A Y fare is the published full fare for coach. Which means I will be flying stand by. So a typical ticket from Honolulu to Moscow with taxes goes from $1850 to $350.

Takes away some of the burdens of getting there. However, I wasn't brave enough to try and fly space available internally in Russia. I have a hard enough time doing it in English speaking countries.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
I am really curious on how well it works for you. I am starting to spend more time on the phone. A good sign, me thinks.


Well I go the phone and have been using it since Sunday, the first few days the reception was terrible, but I am using it through a wireless connection and the siting of my laptop is not the best.

So tonight I moved the laptop to a better place and the recption was great, I was on it for over an hour, then I called back and was on for an hour again, but this time the reception started to get much poorer towards the end, so I went back to using a traditional landline.

I seem to be able to get a great service for maybe an hour at a time now but then it starts to deteriorate for some reason. I haved tweaked all things that can be tweaked so I am not sure why it is very good at times but poor at other times?

I will keep trying to see how things go...but for now I am fairly happy but it could be better.

Chris



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
I seem to be able to get a great service for maybe an hour at a time now but then it starts to deteriorate for some reason. I haved tweaked all things that can be tweaked so I am not sure why it is very good at times but poor at other times?

I will keep trying to see how things go...but for now I am fairly happy but it could be better.

Well there could be all sorts of reasons why the quality goes down. It could just be the physical connection between her phone and the central phone switch, it could be there are more users on their internet server, the wind is blowing, it is a full moon...etc.

My guess is that they company only has so many internet servers and bandwidth that as more people start using it the quality goes down. A way to confirm this is to try slight different times of the day and see if you find a time when you have really good reception.

By the way which phone did you wind up buying?

It is funny you mention the 1 hour deal. The pre-paid phone card system I use has a quirkyness to it also. After 1 hour the phone call is dropped. Of course now that I know about the one hour rule, I look at the timer on my cell phone and call back after 58 minutes. The quality on the phone card is usually pretty good. Especially considering how many hops the phone call has to go through to reach her, there is always a little delay in when I say something and when she hears it, about 1.5 seconds. Takes a little getting use to but eventually it seems normal.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Well there could be all sorts of reasons why the quality goes down. It could just be the physical connection between her phone and the central phone switch, it could be there are more users on their internet server, the wind is blowing, it is a full moon...etc.

My guess is that they company only has so many internet servers and bandwidth that as more people start using it the quality goes down. A way to confirm this is to try slight different times of the day and see if you find a time when you have really good reception.

By the way which phone did you wind up buying?

It is funny you mention the 1 hour deal. The pre-paid phone card system I use has a quirkyness to it also. After 1 hour the phone call is dropped. Of course now that I know about the one hour rule, I look at the timer on my cell phone and call back after 58 minutes. The quality on the phone card is usually pretty good. Especially considering how many hops the phone call has to go through to reach her, there is always a little delay in when I say something and when she hears it, about 1.5 seconds. Takes a little getting use to but eventually it seems normal.


It could be lotsof reasons, but it is not something I think I can fix too many outside influences. When I stopped using the internet phone last night and went on to the normal landline my lady said the quality was a lot lot better, so although for the first hour it seemed OK to me at my end it was not so good at her end. Overall it is fair quality wise, but it cannot replace normal phones for quality, not yet anyway. It may be better if my laptop was hard wired in? I am sure the wireless connection is not helping.

I used the phone cards once and the delays and echoes were terrible, in fact I ended up getting a refund it was so poor. I hate it when yu get delays and echoes and poor reception, I would rather pay for a better quality connection than put up with poor quality.

Othyers don't seem to be having problems so I am fairly certain it is something to do with my wireless connection or user ratio or something?



Posted by: Chrismc

This is the phone I bought Easytarget.



Posted by: vic2012

I get the same problem sometimes. She says that, shes having to press the phone to her ear and I'm talking directly into the mouthpiece. So I call back. It usually sorts the problem. Most times she can hear perfectly. Sometimes I get echos. But for free! I dont worry.

And, I hand it to you Chris Twenty quid for a cordless voipcheap phone is fantastic.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
I get the same problem sometimes. She says that, shes having to press the phone to her ear and I'm talking directly into the mouthpiece. So I call back. It usually sorts the problem. Most times she can hear perfectly. Sometimes I get echos. But for free! I dont worry.

And, I hand it to you Chris Twenty quid for a cordless voipcheap phone is fantastic.


Thanks Vic....BTW good seeing you the other night. I have just tried the phone now for about 30 minutes to a mobile and it was OK, not brilliant but passable. I think there are a lot of factors that can affect the quality, I have it working now so that is good, now and then I put it down and go and use the landline, so I am still better off than I was before.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Chris:
I think you have two things on your end that could be mucking with the quality. The phone is wireless and your laptop is wireless. You could be having the occasional tcp/ip packet dropped on the wireless connection which is causing issues, and the wireless on the phone there might be some interference issues. I would definitely suggest buying a network cable for your laptop. You can get a 6 foot cable pretty cheaply, you can also "borrow" one from work. See if you get any improvement.

Other then that it is most likely the voip companies internet servers.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
I used the phone cards once and the delays and echoes were terrible, in fact I ended up getting a refund it was so poor. I hate it when yu get delays and echoes and poor reception, I would rather pay for a better quality connection than put up with poor quality.

Well it doesn't matter how I call Europe I will get delays and echoes. Honolulu to Russia is going to create delays basic physics at work. It always seems that my phone calls bounce off at least 1 if not 2 or 3 satellites. The price one must pay for living in Hawaii.





Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Chris:
I think you have two things on your end that could be mucking with the quality. The phone is wireless and your laptop is wireless. You could be having the occasional tcp/ip packet dropped on the wireless connection which is causing issues, and the wireless on the phone there might be some interference issues. I would definitely suggest buying a network cable for your laptop. You can get a 6 foot cable pretty cheaply, you can also "borrow" one from work. See if you get any improvement.

Other then that it is most likely the voip companies internet servers.

Yes I agree with this Easy I am sure it is ther fact both the laptop and phone are wireless. However, recently I have not been experiencing many problems with it, so maybe it has settled down a bit. A hardwire would still be better I am sure, but I can manage OK with it for up to an hour, then it seems to drop in quality.



Posted by: vic2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
The price one must pay for living in Hawaii.


Terrible! I dont know how you put up with it.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
The price one must pay for living in Hawaii.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vic
Terrible! I dont know how you put up with it.


Some of us have a heavy cross to bear guys LOL



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Terrible! I dont know how you put up with it.

We all have our crosses to bear. Sunny, 81F today, and I can not go to the beach because I have work to do. Some times it is very difficult living in paradise.



Posted by: vic2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Some times it is very difficult living in paradise.


Yes.......Believe it or not I've been there. Spent a couple of weeks on Maui. I hope to come back (with my Mrs) and do the big island sometime soon.

Just have to see those sunsets again!!



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Yes.......Believe it or not I've been there. Spent a couple of weeks on Maui. I hope to come back (with my Mrs) and do the big island sometime soon.

Just have to see those sunsets again!!

Vic if you do ever get the chance to visit again -- and bring the Mrs. Hawaii is the most romantic place I can think of-- I would be more then happy to give you suggestions on places to visit and things to do. Well, I am sure you can think of a few things to do

And if you are on Oahu, I would be more then happy to play tour guide or host.



Posted by: vic2012

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Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Vic if you do ever get the chance to visit again.....And if you are on Oahu, I would be more then happy to play tour guide or host.
Quote:
EasyTarget
Current mood: SCARED

Yeah...right!



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Posted by: Buckeye5704

No posts here for a year now. Anything new since Jan 07 on this?

Tim



Posted by: Buckeye5704

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I bought a VOIP USB to RJ11/UK HOME CORDLESS PHONE ADAPTER (cost $20).

Where did you get the adaptor from?



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