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Posted by: bassinfool

Ok I thought about this for awile and have been searching (soul and the internet

) I an currently am writing a lady from Irkustk. She found me as I though I thought about never activily pursued any one for the RU. I am savy anough and have been on the internet for a long time so I have seen most of the scams out there and I believe she is real. Now that we started writting and I have been visiting different boards on this subject of RU brides. Is it just me are
the have jobs like
economist , teacher or such (this to me is more like a field of work)
like sports (but they do not get into specifics of what type)
plus what they say they want in a man is almost the same accross the board it is like the same person wrote the profile but just changed the order.
Now do not get me wrong here but I like what I read and find it difficult to believe all these common wants and discriptions in the profiles. Over here it is rare to find 2 adds the same for women. I have yet to find any other girls from this same city is this unual? I am a one lady at a time type of guy but what I read is that it is best to write a few ( feels like i am cheating ) Now I am nowhere like rich what kinda lifestyle do most overthere think we have.? The lady i am talking to does not have internet except at work and no phone is this unusal? She writes well anough though more like she speaking instead of writing (which I like). Oh this is getting long so I will end this with the statement THIS IS THE BEST ORGANIZED SITE on the subject and I have been to most of them.
thanks,
Brent

Posted by: Jutman

If you feel you are cheating, dont write more girls. If you are an intelligent man, which I think from this post, you very quickly will learn if she is good or not (if not, find a new lady). However I will recommend in this situation that you quickly visit her, or meet.

About the communication. I will say you are lucky that she have access to internet a work. But no phone are very common in Russia. A cheap mobilephone cost around month salary. In Russia they also pay when you call her.

As I understand you also talk to her over the phone, at work or at friends. And with email at work, you must be satisfied with this. It is YOU who must adapt to her life. Because she has a harder life than you.

Good luck, and be patient and good to her.

Posted by: andrei

Listen here Brent

An average Russian doesnt need English in his/her regular life. The orders you look thru may be the first time in those women's lives that they really had to write in English. It is not their native language, so they use only those words that are listed on major sites for Russian women, as you know that those words are mostly all the same.

To answer your other question, yes, having no phone, no mobile and no Internet is the most usual thing. 90% of people in the world live like that, including Russians. It's YOU Americans that should be called an exception.
Moreover, most of teachers, doctors etc. dont even know how to turn on a computer.

Have fun, man, you have lots to learn about my stupid country.

Posted by: Dennis/Natasha

For a vast majority of women and men in ALL cultures they are looking for a true partner in life. Good looks and charm I think do play a part. My grandmother once told me, "Men love with their eyes and women love by their ears."

My grandma was a wise 105 pound woman who always looked her best and was able to keep grandpa in line for over 55 years...but let me tell you the woman in her day had many options. Good thing for me grandpa was and still is a pretty cool guy.

Naturally, a woman will want to be attracted to her husband and if he has some endearing qualities that won't hurt either.

Adopting the attitude that many would leave for the unknown of a new culture away from their friends and families for $, even if they speak English pretty, is so far removed from the mind when you have developed the kind of relationship you should be developing.

To me the guys that write and visit the FSU without forming a true bond to the woman through communication and time are self-correcting fools and meat for the slaughter for the scammers out there. It doesn't take money to find love it takes patience, self awareness and communication.

The pitfall and fallacy comes when the man thinks he is rescuing the woman and bases his whole future on that bet.

Let's face it, if you read enough on the topic of Russian brides you know many guys look into the possibility of finding a beutiful woman with one thing in mind...they can offer something better. That "better", in their mind, is the great equalizer and so they increase and compensate their expectations based on very shallow concepts.

The most idiotic concept is this:

"Because I can and/or did for you, you should...."

Those that forget or never think what is important about love to the woman should not expect things will last between them.

If you marry a woman whom you don't know, (By don't know, I mean less than 100's of hours of communication.) do you think more possessions will fit her into your idea of ideal?

Remember this: If she DOES want to escape her life situation then she might be willing to escape her life situation with you also.

Posted by: Castlestormer

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Originally posted by Dennis/Natasha
The pitfall and fallacy comes when the man thinks he is rescuing the woman and bases his whole future on that bet.

Amen brother!!!!

Those are profound words of wisdom. The only time I was scammed was when I actually believed that I was rescuing somebody. It took me a lot of money to learn that lesson. Kind of like getting a Dumbass Degree from Harvard, but without all those pesky classes and textbooks.

Posted by: bassinfool

Thanks guys. I have been all over eroupe and costa rico and internet access is more main stream but personal internet is not. That I understand but I have never been to Russia it is one of the few places I have not been. I am still wondering on the descirptions though. both in the profile and job. IE econmist =bank teller family man = wants kids. It might be that it sounds so general I guess. Also I could find little about her city or wemon from her area Irkutsk. I believe it is a larger city and I have not read one post that mentions finding someone or anything like that. All this might be a culture thing too I was just courious if anybody else noticed it and what they thought
thanks
Brent

Posted by: Brandon

Well, this is reall;y interesting......
I would like to offer my observations if I may.......
My first thoughts of Russia where when I was in skool, many eon's ago. Sir Winston Churchill drew a morbid picture of the USSR. He said, "An Iron Curtain has decended across Europe from the Baltic in the north to the Adriatic in the south." This coloured my opinion of the then USSR and did so up untill May 2003. My jouney through Russia was in one way an eye opener and, in another, a reinforcment of long held opinions.
The country around most towns and cities seems totally worn out and decayed. In the countyside, a little less of this is obvious but there is some obvious lack of refinment missing in most places...Kinda like the difference between a foriegn 'knock off'' of a quality US or UK product. First of all there is the ever present smell, Moscow is worse than Volgograd and Rostov and Sochi better than Volgograd. The elevators (Lifts.) smell the same all over . Dogs living in the courtyards following you for a block when you leave for the store. Everyone carries plastic bags. The singers and music groups in the subways (Underground.) The older ladies selling one flower ! Those black beans,( never tried those) and the railways, hours of travel, 23 hours Moscow to Volgograd. 25 hours Volgograd to Sochi. Then the condition of the city road surfaces, driving like they do would get you a ticket for "Left of Center" over here ! Police (Mialitia ) any type, stopping you for 'papers'. Personally did not have that problem before hooking up with a taxi driver for two days who was a native of Arminia. Whooooo, did he ever look suspect ! Turned out to be a great tour guide and short term friend.
My lady Asiya, waited at the airport in Moscow all night because my connection in London was delayed and I did not arrive in Sherementovo 2 until 5 am. She is fantastic....but, I did not come to that conclusion untill I had spent 2 weeks with her. She is on my wave length with my humour and works very hard and long for her family...She paid for a box at the Bolshoi for us to watch Don Quixote and fought off all the taxi drivers at the airport and railway stations....actually they weren't that pushy, a quick "Nyet" and they left for easier prey. I was totally blown away by the hospitality of the folk in her home town, everyone was so friendly.....she has some of the most beautifull women friends you could imagin, some where doctors, MD and DSS. One lady turned up one night to ask Asiya for work. It was hard to not keep staring, she was very pretty. (I said I was old, not dead !)Asiya was the proper host and she did everything for me, she never left my side for the whole visit. The suprising thing was that, although we'd never meet before, she insisted I stay with her in the appartment she had borrowed in Moscow and the home she has in Volgograd . Imagine a western lady doing that !.........
Well the story goes on, but I must quit here you may all be getting bored.
Still, my Asiya is older at 46, and has been through the mill so to speak, she is resorceful and clever. Those younger girls will not have the same back ground as Asiya and be more 'westernised', this might just be the problem with some of them. The earlier Soviet days deffinitly had an effect on women of 45 and up. Most of the 20 to 25 year olds I met had a good understanding of western life......the TV was the most responcible for that and had made them think America was all like Hollywood.....
Would I do this over ? You bet I would...but fortunatly I don't think I'll have to.
All the best, B

Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Brett and Brandon...

Welcome to these RMP forums...

Brett... to answer a couple of your questions...

"Economist" in Russia does not mean the same as it does in the West.... It means more like an accountant or anything having to do with finance....

I think that since Russian women do not know much English, they sometimes ask their friends (who have also perhaps written profiles themselves) to help write their profiles...

I think that some Russian women even "borrow" text wording from other profiles because they do not know English very well, and yet, these women are still good people...

Regarding women saying that they want a "family man".... I think that this may mean something slightly different for each woman, but... I think that most Russian women want a man who is devoted to his wife and family, and who gives proper attention to his family. I think that this is what most women mean by a "family man."

Khashyar