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Posted by: Stalin

what a good book and a clever ending it's got a lovely ending

Posted by: Khashyar

Welcome to the Russian Meeting Place, Stalin.

Tell us a bit about yourself.

Khashyar

Posted by: Mr.Humble

Yes an old tale that we studied in school....entertaining and provocative.

Curious as to why you would give yourself the name 'Stalin' and refer to this book though...

Posted by: Samurai_Bob

And is the United Nations a whole other country like Texas?
Stalin is interesting.

We do not have anyone in Germany today named Hitler, they all changed it to Histler for a very good reason.

What good could posess someone to use that name?

Posted by: martin3030

Can someone enlighten me ?
Whats the theme of the book ?
Is it famous ?

Posted by: Samurai_Bob

It is very famous of a different era.
It is written by George Orwell who also wrote 1984 (Big Brother is watching).

Animal Farm (1945) - satirical allegory of the Russian Revolution, particularly directed against Stalin's Russia. Led by the pigs, the Animals on Mr Jones's farm revolt against their human masters. After their victory they decide to run the farm themselves on egalitarian principles. Inspired by the example of Boxer, the hard-working horse, the cooperation prosper. The pigs become corrupted by power and a new tyranny is established under Napoleon (Stalin). 'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.' Snowball (Trotsky), an idealist, is driven out. The final betrayal is made when the pigs engineer a rapproachement with Mr Jones. The book was originally rejected for publication by T.S. Eliot in 1944, but has gained since its appearance in 1945 a status of a classic. - Film adaptation from 1955 was a faithful rendition of Orwell's original work, but watered in the end the satire, and presented a socialist viewpoint: the system is good, but the individuals are corruptible.

http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/animalfarm/

George Orwell

Posted by: martin3030

Hmnn
Thanks for the info Bob....We have a TV programme here called Animal farm but its a childrens programme.
Talking about animals and children...the politically correct brigade are at it agin here.
Was on the news last night about nursery rhymes having to be re worded.
Apparantly Ba Ba black sheep now has to be Ba Ba multicolour sheep.
Humpty dumpty did not crack his head [Thats been deemed as too dangerous ]
The mind boggles ..

Posted by: Samurai_Bob

Yeah martin, that is crazy and they are in the US too.

I still wonder why someone would want to use the name Stalin, a man responsible for the death of over 20 million people in his time of power.

His genocide was far worse than Hitler ever dreamed to be.

Posted by: clever1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai_Bob

And is the United Nations a whole other country like Texas?
Stalin is interesting.

We do not have anyone in Germany today named Hitler, they all changed it to Histler for a very good reason.

What good could posess someone to use that name?

The reason was they were made to change it.

Well Adolf changed his name to.
From Schickelgrueber to Hitler.

Heil Schickelgrueber just doesn't have the same ring to it.

John

Posted by: Stalin

Which is your favorite character?I prefer Napolean

Posted by: zaniac

Stalin + United Nations = interesting combination

Posted by: BradIL

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Originally Posted by Samurai_Bob

It is very famous of a different era.

I know AF is considered a classic... but with each year... I wonder if it will reach the status of a great work of western literature. The literary devices are clever, and Orwell writes so well!

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Originally Posted by Samurai Bob

'All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.'

One of the most accurate catch phrases to describe the Stalinist era of the USSR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai Bob

Film adaptation from 1955 was a faithful rendition of Orwell's original work, but watered in the end the satire, and presented a socialist viewpoint: the system is good, but the individuals are corruptible.

EXCELLENT POINT Bob!!! In College I researched the House Un-American Activities Committee for research papers... and a surprise... was a mini-uproar on the film treatment of Animal Farm. Seems the novel gained a lot of fans among anti-Communists in America... and they were ***UPSET*** with a pro-Socialist story line for the film. I was surprised that the film was among the evidence some cited (among others) in establishing a suspicious view of Hollywood.

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Originally Posted by Samurai Bob

I still wonder why someone would want to use the name Stalin, a man responsible for the death of over 20 million people in his time of power.

Finds it funny to provoke emotions from others by identifying themselves with an evil dictator. May provide an ego stroke, until confronted with the horror involved.

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Originally Posted by Stalin

Which is your favorite character?I prefer Napolean

Until Napolean (Stalin) sends the NKVD/KGB to your door at 6 a-m (always the roundups came at this time) and ships you to the coal mines in Vorkuta... where you suffer and die over the next 6 months. Then--- we'll see what your preferences are... but we wouldn't know... since the preferences of dead men are unknowable

Posted by: Jutman

Hitler was born Hitler.

It was his father who changed name.

I never had heard about this before, and I am rather interested in history, so i have to look it up.

Here is what I found:
His father Alois was born out of wedlock and used his mother's surname, Schicklgruber, until he was 40. In 1876, he began using the name of his stepfather, Johann Georg Hiedler, after visiting a priest responsible for birth registries and declaring that Georg was his father (Alois gave the impression that Georg was still alive but he was long dead). The spelling was probably changed to "Hitler" by a clerk. Later, Adolf Hitler was accused by his political enemies of not rightfully being a Hitler, but a Schicklgruber. This was also exploited in Allied propaganda during the Second World War when pamphlets bearing the phrase "Heil Schicklgruber" were airdropped over German cities.[citation needed] Adolf was legally born a Hitler, however, and was also closely related to Hiedler through his maternal grandmother, Johanna Hiedler.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler

Posted by: BradIL

Excellent post Jutman!

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

good work Jutman.

Posted by: Stalin

Обхватывал вплоть до я оригинал всех людей.... This is my reply

and the hammer and the sickle

Posted by: Stalin

I wonder how you can say hammer and sickle in Russian....

Posted by: Stalin

I wonder how you can say hammer and sickle in Russian....