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Posted by: Raspberry

One of my friends told me about Cindy Agency, which is Ukraine-based.
The girls were from three cities only---Krivoy Rog, Zaporozhye, and Dniepropetrovsk.

Actually seems to be a pretty good site, though their server is sometimes slow. Really surprised with the number of women from DNK, more so than the other two cities.

Anyone had any experiences with this agency?

Posted by: Raspberry

Well, I've tried them out, especially since the cities are not that far out of the way of where I'm going.

Actually not bad at all. Looks like a really cleanly run site, and nothing underhanded appearing to be going on. E-mail forwarding is reasonable, and they are really prompt at responding back.

Got two rejections from girls that thought I wasn't right for them. They of course were the prettiest ones of the seven I sent letters to---I would imagine they had their hands full. And they were really polite about it too....shows a lot of class.....

Now corresponding with a couple of the others. Which is a good sign.

I did make an error on one of the letters I e-mailed out. Sent a follow-up to them, and it got corrected before going to the translator.

The only problem I have right now is with one of the ladies who I did not initially write. She sent me a letter unsolicited, which was fine. I don't hate animals, but I don't want any dogs or cats running around the house. Right now I am renting, so pets are out of the question. She is a major animal lover-----espcially dogs.

I did tell her politely that I won't have animals inside the house, and politely also wished her good luck in finding a husband.

Well, today I get a letter saying that she's glad I'm coming to see her in Ukraine, blah blah blah......which is strange right after politely telling her good luck.

Other than that, no complaints. No hints of scams. People have been overall nice.

Posted by: Raspberry

Another interesting thing about Cindy is the lack of duplication of women on other sites. Quite often you will see women on Elena's and/or AFA and/or RWN as well as other sites. The majority of these women appear to be on Cindy only.

There is no prohibition of women being exclusive to them, unlike the rules A Belarus bride has.

Still, it is interesting the lack of being on various sites. At least you know they are not involuntarily being on one of the slimeball sites.

Posted by: Raspberry

Some kind of apparent problem has shown up on the site. I was not able to sign into my account this morning, in order to send/receive mail. What has been happening is that you sign in, and then it ends up going back to the sign in page, as if it were on some kind of loop.

I had sent them an e-mail explaining the problem, this morning. I still have not heard back from them this morning, which is unlike them. Usually they are pretty good at responding promptly.

Anyone else having the same problem with the site??

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by Raspberry

Some kind of apparent problem has shown up on the site. I was not able to sign into my account this morning, in order to send/receive mail. What has been happening is that you sign in, and then it ends up going back to the sign in page, as if it were on some kind of loop.

I had sent them an e-mail explaining the problem, this morning. I still have not heard back from them this morning, which is unlike them. Usually they are pretty good at responding promptly.

Anyone else having the same problem with the site??

I accessed emails OK this morning, just tried again now and it is OK, I have had it quite a number of times where it has gone down for an hour or so I did mention it to Anna and she said it was no big deal and could not understand why it happened, but it has happened more or less all the time I have been on there over the last couple of months, but never for very long.

Also I think Anna has been away as she has taken longer to reply to my emails recently, but the last few days she has been back in touch pretty quickly.

Posted by: Chrismc

email problem:
Very odd that has just happened to me now, all the inbox and outbox the emails dissappeared, but when I refreshed my browser they all came back again.....weird??

But seems to be OK now?

Posted by: Raspberry

chris, mine is OK now. it has stopped looping. Also heard back from Anna as well, and she was wondering if things are now back to normal.

By the way, what apartment did you get for Dnepro? Did you get it from Cindy, or other sources??

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by Raspberry

chris, mine is OK now. it has stopped looping. Also heard back from Anna as well, and she was wondering if things are now back to normal.

By the way, what apartment did you get for Dnepro? Did you get it from Cindy, or other sources??

Yes through Anna, it is Apartment #1 on Komsomolskaya Street, near the big park, don't know the name of it though??

I did ask in another thread have you a map of Dnep....I cannot find a good English one.

Posted by: Raspberry

Chrismc, the park is called "Park Tsentral"(Central Park). I did not get a "real" map of Dnepro, and had to depend on stuff from the internet. I really should have ordered one from Omni before going. (Which I really should do now,for my next trip over).

Incidentally, I didn't see any in the stores when I was there. But I certainly hope you can find one there. And I would imagine that it would be equally hard to find one in the UK, just as it is in the US.

Most stores here only carry Moscow, St. Petersberg and Kiev maps. Occasionally you can find Minsk, Odessa, Lvov or Volgograd in a store in the US.....other than that, it's a special order. If I had a Dnepro map, I would mail it to you, since I don't need it until October. But I don't.

It does get tricky when you start going away from the main street(Karl Marks)......not all streets go straight; many go in a curved direction.

They do, believe it or not, have a Metro train system. But I did not use it on my trip.

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by Raspberry

Chrismc, the park is called "Park Tsentral"(Central Park). I did not get a "real" map of Dnepro, and had to depend on stuff from the internet. I really should have ordered one from Omni before going. (Which I really should do now,for my next trip over).

Incidentally, I didn't see any in the stores when I was there. But I certainly hope you can find one there. And I would imagine that it would be equally hard to find one in the UK, just as it is in the US.

Most stores here only carry Moscow, St. Petersberg and Kiev maps. Occasionally you can find Minsk, Odessa, Lvov or Volgograd in a store in the US.....other than that, it's a special order. If I had a Dnepro map, I would mail it to you, since I don't need it until October. But I don't.

It does get tricky when you start going away from the main street(Karl Marks)......not all streets go straight; many go in a curved direction.

They do, believe it or not, have a Metro train system. But I did not use it on my trip.

Thanks for that Raspberry............I had the same problem in Kharkov last year, no maps anywhere apart from a small one I could print off the internet. Part in Russian part in English.

I have searched everywhere for one of Dnep but nothing is of much use??

Nevermind I will just have to rely on my instincts as before!!

PS none in the UK....I have tried!!!

Posted by: Big-O

Hey guys! I have joined the Cindy Agency about a year ago and have
had to filter through dozens of correspondents... for over six months now
I have had great success with really connecting with one of them and another
one in who seems like an absolute sweet heart. My question is... have any
of you guys ever gone to visit Ukraine through this Agency? It seems like they
don't provide tour groups it's just personal tours that they provide. Not being
well versed in the Russian language (although trying to study up on it) do you
think it's safe for me to travel all on my own. And meet up with a tour guide there?

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

-O

Posted by: Raspberry

I have, and it was really worthwhile. Actually ended up meeting one girl---which, ironically, was my favorite of the bunch, and the one I had written the most.

It's customary to meet the girl at the agency, and then she and the translator will take you to Sparta restaurant(good place, and a regular hangout for the Cindy girls).

The three-way conversation was a bit intense(in a positive way) and satisfying. I have never been to a tour group or social, but this seemed to be a bit more productive than what I think either of those are.

Oh, yes, about the apartments.....if you are staying at the cheap one(no elevator---that's why it's discounted), be sure to take down the address. A lot of the buildings in that area look alike, and it's easy to get lost. The apartments look slummy on the outside, and in the hallways, but inside the rooms themselves, it is really nice.

Dnepropetrovsk is not actually a touristy city, but it is indeed a pleasant place to visit. I can only speak for Dnepro, and it's a really safe city.

I'm not sure what they do for accomodations if you are going to Zaporozhye, though......there is no mention of it on the website(although they have an office, and girls, there). They do have one apartment in Krivoy Rog, and I think five in Dnepro.

Posted by: freebird

I have been using Cindy Agency for about 2 months, the advantage is that the letters you send are translated, cost only $5. the ones you get are free. Replies are usually quick. You have to pay to get contact info - (phone + e-mail) and they are alittle slow with this, it took 8 days and 3 emails after payment to get phone #, I think they dont like giving it out! I called the girl, she seems legit, I will be going there next month. I will be doing a full review of this agency and others (Elena's, Annuchka, Fiance:com) after I get back.

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by freebird

I have been using Cindy Agency for about 2 months, the advantage is that the letters you send are translated, cost only $5. the ones you get are free.

Yes that is a benefit as most of the ladies on their books have limited English skills.

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Replies are usually quick.

That is because they call a lot of their ladies and get dictated responses in reply, keeps the communication going and of course earns them more money. Not all the ladies live close enough to the agency to be able to pop in each day.

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You have to pay to get contact info - (phone + e-mail) and they are alittle slow with this, it took 8 days and 3 emails after payment to get phone #, I think they dont like giving it out!

Yes they are slow at this, but again it is because the longer they take to give it out the more they earn through correspondence through the agency. In fact I am sure they have a policy to NOT give out contact details until you have spent a certain amount of $$$$ with them.

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I called the girl, she seems legit, I will be going there next month. I will be doing a full review of this agency and others (Elena's, Annuchka, Fiance:com) after I get back.

I look forward to it, I think basically Cindy's are an honest agency, but they are a business afterall and in business to make money, as long as you understand that and the fact you will not get contact details quickly at least until you have spent a certain amount with them, then you will be OK.

Posted by: freebird

Greetings Chrismc, From what I understand, they have updated that policy, now you just have to pay $25 to get the phone + e-mail info. Seems steep at first, but as you say, this is a business. So I look at it this way, I have sent 6 detailed emails to the same girl, got 6 replies + got her phone # and talked to her a few times. Cost $55. (not incl. phone calls) If I had done the same with another agency, (translated letters) it would cost $150 min. If the letters aren't translated, it causes her problems, or if I do it, (on-line) it comes out very awkward and takes me at least 30 - 45 min. (I like to write long detailed letters! I think the key is - 1) Ask lots of questions, if she doesn't bother to answer most of your Q's - beware, and she should be asking smart Q's based on what you have written. 2) After a few letters get the phone # and find out what is going on. One girl that sent me a gushing reply (from Annuchka) was a little snippy when I called her, not a good sign!

The other knocks here about this agency, I dont have a problem with the agency getting replies by phone, if they read the letter to the girl, she answers my Q's and asks a few herself. Because its done over the phone, its not perfect, she might miss 1 or 2 of my questions, but for $5 - not bad. As to supposed "spam" letters fom the girls, since you don't pay for reading letters, the first one they send you is just to catch your attention, if you respond with a serious letter,see how the correspondence goes.

By the way Chris (or anyone else who has used them) I see you are late 40's - did you get first letters from girls 19, 20, 21? I am 40 now, & I got a few of these (usually in bikini!) but I thought the age gap was a bit too much!

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by freebird

Greetings Chrismc, From what I understand, they have updated that policy, now you just have to pay $25 to get the phone + e-mail info. Seems steep at first, but as you say, this is a business. So I look at it this way, I have sent 6 detailed emails to the same girl, got 6 replies + got her phone # and talked to her a few times. Cost $55. (not incl. phone calls) If I had done the same with another agency, (translated letters) it would cost $150 min. If the letters aren't translated, it causes her problems,

Yes I agree it has not cost a lot in the whole scheme of things. BUT, there are other agencies where you can buy for say $10 - $15 the ladies contact details and communicate directly from day one! Those are the ones I would now use if I was searching again.

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or if I do it, (on-line) it comes out very awkward and takes me at least 30 - 45 min.

Yes agreed, it is not quick and certainly not perfect using the machine translations.

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(I like to write long detailed letters! I think the key is - 1) Ask lots of questions, if she doesn't bother to answer most of your Q's - beware, and she should be asking smart Q's based on what you have written. 2) After a few letters get the phone # and find out what is going on.

Spot on, exactly what I do also. I always ask for a phone number early on, even if she speaks NO English I call them. It is interesting how you can sometimes spend an hour on the phone with a lady who speaks no or little English and your Russian is poor to say the least

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By the way Chris (or anyone else who has used them) I see you are late 40's - did you get first letters from girls 19, 20, 21? I am 40 now, & I got a few of these (usually in bikini!) but I thought the age gap was a bit too much!

The first letters I received from Cindy's was from 28 - 35 year age range, I was 48 at the time. The 28 year old I actually told her I was too old for her, but she woud not have any of it, but eventually I stopped writing to her.

Posted by: Raspberry

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Originally Posted by freebird

Yes, Chris and Freebird, I have gotten some 19-year-olds writing me. I am 50, and it is definitely unrealistic. In fact, one of the 19's wrote me TWICE. I have not answered back as it is just a waste of credits which could be better used elsewhere.

Also, I noticed they now have girls from Poltava on the site. They don't currently have an office.....how are they going to handle it when men come to visit? Are the girls going to be bused to Dnepro, or vice versa?

Posted by: duplantisjj

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Originally Posted by Raspberry

Hi, I been away from this forum for a while but have been communicating with a few girls from Cindy agency. My thing is also that the girls I'm interested in are also in Poltava. I'm planning a trip sometime after summer and am starting to wonder about logistics. I learned that Poltava has a hotel....so...I'm assuming I would stop in Dnepro for a day or so and then spend a few days in Poltava. Unless the girls I want to meet will come down to Dnepro....but then that would get kind a weird, especially if there was no connection...

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by Raspberry

I would imagine that they do it all by phone. The girl I wrote to told me that the office is far away from her so they sometimes just take her response by phone. If you arrange a meeting then they would call the girl and tell her where to meet you (in Poltava) They probably have some interpreters there too.

Posted by: Blanton13

I haven't been real active on the site in a LONG time for some personal reasons. However, I have maintained a profile with Cindys and continue to get letters from the women there. Based on some of the previous posters, if I haven't gotten an important question answered, I always made sure to re-ask it. SImply because I know that the translation is done over the phone.

I get e-mails from new women about once a week, generally from women who are new to the web site. For the most part I don't respond to many of them due to age or wording of their first letter. But I will say that I have been impressed by the people who run the site. I've requested and paid for additional pictures only to not have them delivered in the amount of time they stated, when I asked about it, I was refunded my money.

I have also used their gift sending service once. Worked like a charm, pictures and all. All in all, I have a good opinion of the site.

And yes, I think I'm back into the game, but warming up slowly.

Posted by: GentleGiant

I joined the site very cautiously, it is on Jim's Lists "Grey" list, a lot of reported problems.

I have my doubts about the identity of two of the three women I have been writing to, for starters I was receiving letters from some women that were replies to letters I had not sent, letters are answered AWFULLY quickly, I believe unrealistically so, I have sent a 4000+ word letter and received a reply the same day.
Next, one of these two women cannot seem to remember the age of her child ( it varies by 5 years), or what she does for a living from one email to the next; another has told me about Friday's 15th Anniversary Celebrations ( it was the 16th).
In a bid to confirm who I was really writing to, I told them I was going to ask the agency for their address's, so I could write to them directly ( they both claimed a reasonable understanding of English), and they both promptly decided I was not the man for them after all and said goodbye and good luck in their replies a few hours later.

This smells wiffy and I will be keeping a close eye on any other letters I receive from them.

This site had supposedly cleaned up it's act after being associated with two of the biggest dating scam sites on the internet, but it looks like old habits die hard.

Take care and treat those gushing emails with caution.

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

I joined the site very cautiously, it is on Jim's Lists "Grey" list, a lot of reported problems.

I have my doubts about the identity of two of the three women I have been writing to, for starters I was receiving letters from some women that were replies to letters I had not sent, letters are answered AWFULLY quickly, I believe unrealistically so, I have sent a 4000+ word letter and received a reply the same day.
Next, one of these two women cannot seem to remember the age of her child ( it varies by 5 years), or what she does for a living from one email to the next; another has told me about Friday's 15th Anniversary Celebrations ( it was the 16th).
In a bid to confirm who I was really writing to, I told them I was going to ask the agency for their address's, so I could write to them directly ( they both claimed a reasonable understanding of English), and they both promptly decided I was not the man for them after all and said goodbye and good luck in their replies a few hours later.

This smells wiffy and I will be keeping a close eye on any other letters I receive from them.

This site had supposedly cleaned up it's act after being associated with two of the biggest dating scam sites on the internet, but it looks like old habits die hard.

Take care and treat those gushing emails with caution.

Gentle

Read some of my experiences with them here, I called them out for exactly the reasons you are stating, they did resolve issues and did refund some of my fees, so they are not all bad, but in the end I stopped using them, for a few reasons really, it was very hard to get to the women direct and I will never work on that basis again. However, the ones I was writing to new little if any English, so that didn't help either. I stopped using them 12 months ago now so they could have gone back to their old ways again??

Posted by: GentleGiant

Hi Chrismc, it is suss, but I am keeping an open mind for the moment, the last letter that I sent, as well as saying I was going to ask for their address's if they did not mind, also contained two other things that may have put them off, the first was my saying that I was writing to a total of three women from the site; that usually gets a few bothered because they like to think they are the only one,whoever I always try then I will be truthful, so, they must know I will be writing to others and NOT telling them would mean I was not being truthful.
The last time I wrote to a big batch from Elena's and then told the 20 odd who replied favourably that I was going to write to a number of others as well, about 30% said " bye then".
The 2nd thing, I was asked why I broke up with my Czech girlfriend, and I told them, the whole awful truth, so there is also the possibility they think I can never get over what happened; and to be honest I do not think I will ever be totally free of what happened; but that does not mean I cannot fall in love again.

I have heard good things about their in country service from people who have been over there, so they cannot be 100% dodgy, I just think there may be some rot at the internet site.

I will update this forum as things progress; to which end, (and you have all seen my photo, I am not "A" grade material), I have had an attractive 21 y/o send me her letter of introduction today; in fact the one woman of the three who has not ditched me is also quite young, only 26 and drop dead gorgeous.

It is a problem when women send you their letters when you are not interested ( 21 is too young for me), because you have to either be cruel and not reply or waste money to say "I'm flattered but no thank you".

Posted by: Chrismc

yes that is the problem GG with the young uns when they write

I basically think this agency is 90% honest, but!, they are also I am sure up for earning as much as possible out of you as quickly as possible. Before you get hold of the ladies contact info too soon and I am pretty sure they send out intial 'hello how are you, I like your profile' type letters for the ladies, without them knowing too much about it.

Like you, I know of a few guys who have used them on the ground and most of the tales have been OK

Posted by: freebird

Hey Guys, I am going to review Cindy's and a few other agencys, so chime in and give your feedback.

Posted by: vic2012

Hi GG,

Victoria says some women join agencies out of boredom, just to see what response they get. Very few checks are done. They can correspond with different men and it costs them nothing. The agency doesn't give a toss, because you're paying.

Of course the moment you say you want to meet..............saynomore!

Posted by: GentleGiant

So it's just my luck that every one of the ones who I have replied to is only writing cos they're bored !!

So why is it that some of them write follow up letters if you do not reply to the first one ??

I still have 12 credits with these people and am getting lots of letters, but is it worth replying to any of them ?? Every attempt so far has ended the same.

Posted by: goforit

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

Hi Chrismc, it is suss, but I am keeping an open mind for the moment, the last letter that I sent, as well as saying I was going to ask for their address's if they did not mind, also contained two other things that may have put them off, the first was my saying that I was writing to a total of three women from the site; that usually gets a few bothered because they like to think they are the only one,whoever I always try then I will be truthful, so, they must know I will be writing to others and NOT telling them would mean I was not being truthful.
The last time I wrote to a big batch from Elena's and then told the 20 odd who replied favourably that I was going to write to a number of others as well, about 30% said " bye then".

I don't get this. I really don't. One of the first women I contacted at Elena's said "bye" because she thought I was communicating with other girls at the site. Truth was I hadn't talked to anyone all week except her as I was rather busy but she saw that I had been online at Elena's so I get this email that says "well you don't have time for relationships but you have time to be on Elena's." Frankly, at the very beginning of contact, I think such an attitude is not only unrealistic but a little narcissistic.

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The 2nd thing, I was asked why I broke up with my Czech girlfriend, and I told them, the whole awful truth, so there is also the possibility they think I can never get over what happened; and to be honest I do not think I will ever be totally free of what happened; but that does not mean I cannot fall in love again.

Hmmmm...I would be careful here. Huge wet blanket for many women. IMO, not such a good idea. I would just give a general statement and move on.

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I will update this forum as things progress; to which end, (and you have all seen my photo, I am not "A" grade material), I have had an attractive 21 y/o send me her letter of introduction today; in fact the one woman of the three who has not ditched me is also quite young, only 26 and drop dead gorgeous.

It is a problem when women send you their letters when you are not interested ( 21 is too young for me), because you have to either be cruel and not reply or waste money to say "I'm flattered but no thank you".

I have that problem with women who are beyond the child bearing years. Fortunately I don't have to pay to send each time but it is still hard to say no, even politely.

Posted by: GentleGiant

Not had that problem with Cindy's, it is as if the Ukraine does not have any single women over 40 !!!!

I got a " No Longer Interested " letter from the 26 y/o shortly after my last posting; I had sent her a long, looooong letter in reply to her previous one, about musical tastes and favourite films etc; maybe she doesn't like Loudon Wainwright???
Seriously, it cannot have been a miss match of tastes, nearly all of the artists and films she quoted I like and her favourite film is one of my top 10; so why did she suddenly say "no" ??

It has been suggested that the staff write many of the letters and only forward your detail to the woman when it seems you are serious; if this is true then this site is no less a rip off than any of those listed on Jim's Lists.

It does not matter if they are upfront and honest with you if you are there in person, 99% of people are going to start via the website, so if this is crooked then the whole business is crooked.

I tried to prove/disprove the idea that the staff are writing the letters

I sent my favourite woman some flowers and a letter ( they send you a photo recording the delivery), it took twice as long as they state, but I did get two photos and I can just make out that the letter she is holding is mine; but!! she looks rather confused and I wonder if she had a clue who the flowers and letter were from.

The only way I can think of to be 100% sure is to buy the address's of some of these women and write directly in the hope that one will reply either "Yes" I got your emails but changed my mind" or "No !! never heard of you".

As for saying "No" politely to a woman, I do not appear to have the knack, I do not like writing to more than one at a time if I am even slightly serious about them, so when I had a letter of introduction from another site recently I replied that I was already writing to someone and would have to ask her if I could write to this woman as well and that the first woman would have priority until I decided if I loved her or not....

I got back a gushing letter saying what a wonderful man I was and she could not wait to meet me in person and spend lots of quiet time with me !!!

If I did not trust the site she is from, my scam alarms would be ringing DEFCON 1 !!!!!

Posted by: French_Misha

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

Not had that problem with Cindy's, it is as if the Ukraine does not have any single women over 40 !!!!

I got a " No Longer Interested " letter from the 26 y/o shortly after my last posting; I had sent her a long, looooong letter in reply to her previous one, about musical tastes and favourite films etc; maybe she doesn't like Loudon Wainwright???
Seriously, it cannot have been a miss match of tastes, nearly all of the artists and films she quoted I like and her favourite film is one of my top 10; so why did she suddenly say "no" ??

It has been suggested that the staff write many of the letters and only forward your detail to the woman when it seems you are serious; if this is true then this site is no less a rip off than any of those listed on Jim's Lists.

It does not matter if they are upfront and honest with you if you are there in person, 99% of people are going to start via the website, so if this is crooked then the whole business is crooked.

I tried to prove/disprove the idea that the staff are writing the letters

I sent my favourite woman some flowers and a letter ( they send you a photo recording the delivery), it took twice as long as they state, but I did get two photos and I can just make out that the letter she is holding is mine; but!! she looks rather confused and I wonder if she had a clue who the flowers and letter were from.

The only way I can think of to be 100% sure is to buy the address's of some of these women and write directly in the hope that one will reply either "Yes" I got your emails but changed my mind" or "No !! never heard of you".

As for saying "No" politely to a woman, I do not appear to have the knack, I do not like writing to more than one at a time if I am even slightly serious about them, so when I had a letter of introduction from another site recently I replied that I was already writing to someone and would have to ask her if I could write to this woman as well and that the first woman would have priority until I decided if I loved her or not....

I got back a gushing letter saying what a wonderful man I was and she could not wait to meet me in person and spend lots of quiet time with me !!!

If I did not trust the site she is from, my scam alarms would be ringing DEFCON 1 !!!!!

In another thread, I pointed out that in my opinion you are much better off using the FREE Russian sites such as singles dot ru. I looked: you have 8,349 profiles of women from Ukraine with photos in the 40 - 50 age range. You can see which women are online at the moment and you can send them a message for free. The only disadvantage: the site is in Russian. However, you would save a lot of money (and grief) by finding someone who knows Russian to set up a free profile and teach you how to use the site, than paying for the privilege of writing to women on a site that may or may not be for real.

Posted by: GentleGiant

I have looked at singles.ru, and with translation software and guesswork I can read most of it; but these women are looking for Russian men mostly, if they wanted a firiegn husband, and were prepared to move abroad, surely they would have joined one of the agencies that advertise internationally???

I do have a Russian language course for written and spoken Russian, but I am finding it difficult having just restarted a degree course, to find enough hours in the day to study Russian as well as the 12 hours of reading per week recommended by my tutor ON TOP OF COURSEWORK !! As well as a job and a son and a house and trying to keep all the families computers working ( most of my relatives think digits are the technical name for fingers).

Posted by: French_Misha

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

I have looked at singles.ru, and with translation software and guesswork I can read most of it; but these women are looking for Russian men mostly, if they wanted a firiegn husband, and were prepared to move abroad, surely they would have joined one of the agencies that advertise internationally???

I do have a Russian language course for written and spoken Russian, but I am finding it difficult having just restarted a degree course, to find enough hours in the day to study Russian as well as the 12 hours of reading per week recommended by my tutor ON TOP OF COURSEWORK !! As well as a job and a son and a house and trying to keep all the families computers working ( most of my relatives think digits are the technical name for fingers).

In my opinion, many women would consider a foreign husband, but do not actively search one out. That is to say they won't join any of the agencies, and this is certainly the case in the smaller cities. Also, in my experience, many of the women in the agencies that are truly looking (i.e. not the scammers nor the bait set out by the agencies to sell addresses) are also on the free Russian dating sites. I met my wife on singles.ru and she was not looking for a foreign husband, rather she was looking for a GOOD husband and he happened to be a foreigner. Finally, singles.ru asks the women to indicate the language(s) they speak. So you can search for women that speak English. Besides, what do you lose. It is FREE and you can send as many messages as you want. If you send out enough, eventually someone will be interested.

Posted by: GentleGiant

I would probably have persevered if the site worked more often; if my current email romance fails I will give it another try.

Posted by: Raspberry

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

Not had that problem with Cindy's, it is as if the Ukraine does not have any single women over 40 !!!!

Actually, the new girl I just met is a 45-year-old through Cindy�s.

Posted by: GentleGiant

Maybe I only appeal to the younger ones :-p

Seriously. one 36 y/o I write to last year said I was too young for her (41 then), she was looking for someone more mature.

Well. OK, I still play daily with Lego and Stickle bricks, but so what ???

I have just had a notification of another letter waiting for me on Cindy's; anyone want to bet she is under 30? under 25?? ( I have not bothered to look myself yet); of the last 6 only one has been over 25.

Posted by: azamuner

You never really grow out of Lego.

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

Hey GG, I think it is not a great idea to concentrate only on one girl UNTIL you have met in person. Also DO NOT tell them you are writing to someone else, they will assume this anyway. And most of the girls have letters & reply to several or many men. (after all, the don't know who will come over or who will not) AFTER you have gone over there to meet if all goes well you should make some commitment to each other before you leave that you will each not write to others. My suggestion - (some may disagree) is that you write a good introduction letter, have it translated, then send it to many contacts. (for example I used AnnaBarmina - 120 addresses over 12 months for $150, or Elena's 50 addresses + free e-mails for $150 0r use Fiance.com) If you send out at least 30-40 introduction letters you should get at least 8 -12 replies. In your letter ask for her contact info, Phone #, e-mail etc. When you get the letters back, (and it may take a couple of months) you can say that you plan to go to the Ukraine next spring (or summer), and, if all works out you would be interested in meeting them. That way, if you go over to meet your primary and it does not work out, you can call one of the other girls who wrote you and go to meet her.

Posted by: GentleGiant

On Monday I helped make some collage pictures from Autumn leaves :-)

Tomorrow I will probably pretend to be hurt and be bandaged up, possibly by a "Doctor" but as there are not enough Doctors coats to go round it could equally be a Nurse. Policeman, Bob the Builder or a Vet.
Oh !! or a Pirate, one boy is obsessed with Pirates.

Do you know how Buccaneers keep fit ??

Pirat�s (think about it)

Posted by: GentleGiant

As I have said in another thread about Cindy's ; I may have actually contacted a real genuine Woman through the Agency, I suspect all the caustic comments I put at the start of the first two letters convinced the translators to send the woman my letters instead of answering themselves.

The trouble I find with writing to more than one or two is that I start to get feelings for all of them, just from writing, and I feel terrible about the fact I am going to have to say no to many of them. I have always in the past admitted I am writing to others but told them I would tell them when I picked "The One", and not lead them on.
This was fine with most of them, it was mainly the younger ones who objected; so saying they all know is a bit of a cover up.
Besides, it helps sort out the really immature ones right from the start.

As I said, my problem is I develop feelings for them just from writing, and right now I have a dilemma, I am writing to two, one from Cindy's and one from Svetlana's ( I am going to write a thread about that); and they are both attractive, intelligent warm people, both have children, both are 34 and both wrote to me first.
Both want to meet me and I want to meet both of them but work and Education means I can only visit one this year and that one is the one from Svetlana's because I had already promised; I have told the other it will not be until next Summer.
I am like a puppy given two equally delicious bones, I keep looking from one to the other and cannot decide which !!!!
Perhaps I should post their profile pictures and run a poll??

Posted by: AkMike

I wouldn't post pics because that just shows the outside wrappings. We all know how lovely the women over there are!

I find that after a couple of weeks you tend to look beyond that to the core of the beauty.
You might have different views on that , but I'd tend to want to read the profiles/ bios about the women and who they are.

Posted by: GentleGiant

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, I didn't write to them based on looks, "Y" I only rated a 6.5 by the Lads Mags Scale until a few days ago, I wrote based on what they were saying with an eye to seeing they were not too ugly.

(See my new thread under Agency Reviews.)

"X" is the only one of dozens of letters Cindy's has sent me in the last 2 months that I have answered, she is far from the youngest, prettiest or supposedly best educated, but her letter contained many things I look for and agree with, so after several weeks of thinking about it, I replied.

My problem is that they are both so wonderful to communicate with, and as they are also both so attractive, I cannot take the easy way out and use their looks as the deciding factor.

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

As I have said in another thread about Cindy's ; I may have actually contacted a real genuine Woman through the Agency, I suspect all the caustic comments I put at the start of the first two letters convinced the translators to send the woman my letters instead of answering themselves.
I am writing to two, one from Cindy's and one from Svetlana's ( I am going to write a thread about that);

Hey GG, feel free to post other agency reviews on my Elena's/Cindy's/AnnaB's thread, I think it would be good to have as many agencies as possible reviewed there. It is not as easy for newcomers to look up 10 - 20 different threads on each individual agency, easier to review them all in one thread (IMO)

Posted by: GentleGiant

A bIt too late now, unless the mods have a read and add it to this one; for any newbies reading this and looking for a real woman without having to spend loads on translating letters written by the staff not the girls, try Svetlana's http://svetlanasbrides.com/

Hands off Tahmina though, SHE'S MINE!!!!

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

A bIt too late now, unless the mods have a read and add it to this one; for any newbies reading this and looking for a real woman without having to spend loads on translating letters written by the staff not the girls, try Svetlana's http://svetlanasbrides.com/

Hands off Tahmina though, SHE'S MINE!!!!

I already have a ring on my finger... That's ok, I think I will just paste your review onto that thread...

Posted by: Raspberry

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Originally Posted by azamuner

You never really grow out of Lego.

Have you made a pilgrimige to Carlsbad?(Near San Diego)Or even Billund?(Denmark).

A trip to Lego-Land sounds good right now..

Posted by: GentleGiant

Don't forget Lego-land Windsor, London.

Never been there myself, but my son went a few years back and thoroughly enjoyed himself ( I had to work).

Getting back "On Topic"; i am still getting 3-5 letters of introduction from the place every week; even though I have not replied to a single one since Irina's back in October.
I do read them though, and they are starting to form patterns, much the same way Douglas Reeman books all seem the same if you read 10-15 back to back. The first paragraph is virtually identical in nearly all of them, and the semantic content of the letters is also identical in 90% of cases.
I delete most of them, but have saved a few that don't look too generic in case it doesn't work out with Tahmina.
Still far too many of the letters are for "girls" far below my minimum stated age range; in the last few weeks, only 1 has been over the age of 24. (Minimum age stated is 28).