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How should a married woman dress?

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Posted by: Spakoyna

My wife were having a discussion yesterday and are curious what people think! We decided it would be interesting to start a poll and see what other peoples comments are regarding clothes. Is it appropriated for a married woman to wear revealing sexy clothes? Should a married woman dress conservatively? Does it even matter to her man? This is our 1st poll so I hope we do it correctly!

Interesting sidelines would be, How do people view a married woman that dresses to show what she has(sexy,revealing)? If or when it is appropriated for a married woman to dress sexy.Why should a married woman dress conservative? How do you feel as a man or woman when other women are dressed in revealing clothes( does it upset or make you uncomfortable?) I think you get the jest of the topic.

I think this should be an interesting topic and we are curious how people feel! I believe there is a diverse group of people here and it should be an interesting thread/poll!



Posted by: mistermopar

I think a married lady should be able to dress how ever she wants.If it makes her feel good,she will be happy,and when she is happy you are happy.

Randy



Posted by: Mr.Humble

Exactly what Randy said....If she is happy, then you are happy



Posted by: inlove

I'm no man, so my opinion might not count, but I was wondering why and how this topic came up on the first place?

P.S. I thought personal style has more to do with the taste and age than a marital status...



Posted by: Eryk

>>Is it appropriated for a married woman to wear revealing sexy clothes?

If it were appropriate for marital status to have any bearing on how one dresses then the logical corollary of the assertion that a married woman should dress conservatively would be that an unmarried woman should dress like a 'hooker'. The latter contention is patently absurd ergo the former contention is absurd also.

>>How do people view a married woman that dresses to show what she has
>>(sexy,revealing)?

I view her as a woman who is attempting to appear 'sexy'.

>>If or when it is appropriated for a married woman to dress sexy.

It is appropriate for a woman to dress 'sexy' when she wants to be percieved as being 'sexy'.

>>Why should a married woman dress conservative?

Dealt with above. The assertion is absurd.

Eryk



Posted by: bingism

Q: How should a married woman dress?

A: Any way she wants to!



Posted by: lester

Correct bing, anyway she wants too.

As has been posted many times, they always look their best!!



Posted by: Texas Proud

I voted early.. but decided to jot down a note....

I voted I don't care, but the first one about sexy is the same to me...

And I agree, it does not matter how she dresses... to a point.. I would not want to be with a woman that dresses like a hooker... one that you have no doubt what is being covered since you can see it.... I just think she should dress appropriately where you are... if you are on a beach a string bikini is OK, but not if you are meeting friends for a drink....



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
if you are on a beach a string bikini is OK, but not if you are meeting friends for a drink....


Gees Texas Proud,guess I know where me and the other guys from the RMP aren't going for a drink...LOL

Randy



Posted by: Spakoyna

Quote:
Originally Posted by inlove
I'm no man, so my opinion might not count, but I was wondering why and how this topic came up on the first place?

P.S. I thought personal style has more to do with the taste and age than a marital status...


This is something my wife and I were curious about. Being married to a wonderful Russian lady the conversation comes up from time to time as my wife is very curious about fashion,etc. In our area people dress much more conservatively than in Russia,Europe(Our age group 40's). Sure some of the younger people dress in more sexy clothes, but it is still not what you see in Russia(some outfits I saw would probably be considered indescent exposure in many places in America).

I am the lone vote for middle of the road and my wife agrees with me.



Posted by: cedarwind

I am the lone vote for Conservative. I think that a married women should dress that way as it is respectful to her husband.



Posted by: bingism

Quote:
Originally Posted by cedarwind
I am the lone vote for Conservative. I think that a married women should dress that way as it is respectful to her husband.

I have a feeling that some people may attack you for this, but please don't take my comments as such:

If you had said "respectful to herself" I might understand your point of view a little. Cedar, could you expand on why it is important that a married woman should change what she dresses out of respect for a man? Surely if she is happy and her clothes make her feel good, then she should be able to wear what she wants. If you have a good marriage, then why would you be worried about this? In the past, many of my GFs have worn very short skirts and when I was much younger, I had a bit of an issue. When I realised that they were wearing these clothes a) to look good / sexy for me, and b) because it made them feel good amongst other girls also wearing the same, I changed my opinion. I am extremely proud when a guy looks at my other half with their "OMG look at the ???? on that" face, because I know she's coming home with me!!!

Bing



Posted by: Texas Proud

Bing... I will give an answer to your question...

Since you are now MARRIED... then there are some things you should not do that you had no problem with when you were single... you other thread proves my point (about you beer and loose women)... some people think that you should also change your dress... it is their opinion and is a valid one for them...

Again, to me it is dress appropriately for the situation... and yes there are some outfits that I see in the various pictures that would not be appropriate for here... It seems fine in the FSU to have a see through blouse with only a bra.. you do not see that over here... or should I say, I do not see it over here..

But, wearing some short skirts and a nice tight sweater priceless



Posted by: Spakoyna

After reading a few of the responses I am a bit surprised as is my wife!

Does a woman dress more provocative when she is on the market? I would say without a doubt yes! Comments?

Once a woman is in a commited relationship does she want to continue beating off the bozos and suitors propositioning her? My wife says no.We all know how many players are out there.

Do you guys seriously want other men hitting on your wife? Yes it will happen if she is dressed provocatively! Somethings are for my eyes only!

I believe the key to the discussion here has been properly approached by Cedarwind and Texas Proud. It is all about respect! A woman dresses more conservatively out of respect for her husband. In the same token it is expected for the man to stop oogling all the sexy vixons and undressing them with their eyes!

Texas Proud! I saw ladies wearing those see through blouses in the summer without a bra! Does this make my wife uncomfortable? Without a doubt yes. It also makes me uncomfortable because I respect my wife.

A lady can dress conservatively and still be sexy. In fact sometimes less revealing clothes are more sexy. I have an older lady friend who is like a 2nd mom for me. She has been a wonderful ear for me over the years. She makes a very good statement about this! "Some things are better left for the imagination."



Posted by: Keith In Kodiak

Interesting thread.

What is sexy? A married woman bare chested on a topless beach in the caribbean is being perfectly appropriate. A married woman wearing a see-through blouse without a bra while out shopping in her hometown is, umm, advertising.

There's a difference between "sexy" and "advertising." I don't know... for my money the sexiest thing a woman can wear is a well fitted pair of jeans and a tee shirt. I find that appropriate to a married or a single woman.



Posted by: Spakoyna

Inlove! Forgot to tell you this. We hoped to hear from men and women. We think it is an interesting topic.

My wife is very fashionable,has many friends in Russia who would ask her advice about clothes,makeup,etc. She is always asking what I think about the outfits,makeup,hairstyle,etc. of other women and what I think. LOL! I can not satisfy her as I have never had an interest and am not a people watcher!



Posted by: Spakoyna

Keith,You are correct! What is the difference between sexy and advertising? My wife is getting a kick out of this topic and hoping the discussion will continue. Obviously there are cultural differences(different regions,states,countries,etc.) in how men and women approach each other either by dress,conversation,eye-contact,etc.

My experiences tell me that in Russia all wome dress to kill....they do their advertising with eye contact,body language,etc.

American women rely more on the clothes they wear to advertise...not to say the above doesn't apply either.



Posted by: Eryk

>>Does a woman dress more provocative when she is on the market? I would >>say without a doubt yes! Comments?

I would say "it depends". Reason follows from your next point...

>>Once a woman is in a commited relationship does she want to continue >>beating off the bozos and suitors propositioning her? My wife says no.We >>all know how many players are out there.

If a woman is single she may dress conservatively specifically to try and avoid the situation you describe. On the other hand, if she is out with her husband/BF she may decide that he constitutes sufficient "deterrent" and she can therefore dress however she pleases.

>>Do you guys seriously want other men hitting on your wife? Yes it will >>happen if she is dressed provocatively! Somethings are for my eyes only!

What matters to me is whether it makes Natasha uncomfortable or not. On my own account I don't give a damn either way.

>>I believe the key to the discussion here has been properly approached by >>Cedarwind and Texas Proud. It is all about respect!

All about trust and insecurity as far as I can see.

>>A woman dresses more conservatively out of respect for her husband.

If her husband suffers from an insecurity complex, maybe. Equally some women may dress very provocatively because they know their husbands get a kick from showing them off - "trophy wives" are hardly a new phenomenon.

>>Texas Proud! I saw ladies wearing those see through blouses in the >>summer without a bra! Does this make my wife uncomfortable? Without a >>doubt yes. It also makes me uncomfortable because I respect my wife.

If you respect your wife then a parade of topless women all falling over themselves to seduce you will have no affect at all upon what you do. Ergo the fact that they exist (or not) is entirely irrelevant. Only alcoholics need to "fear" the whisky bottle and only sexaholics need to fear scantily glad women.

Eryk



Posted by: mistermopar

You have some very good points Eryk and I do agree with them in ways.
But a lady can also dress sexy and not have to look like a hooker,she can look sexy and still wear a bra.
I guess what I am trying to say is that each and everyone of us have a differant idea of what dressing sexy is.
It would be like asking a bunch of guys what a sporty car should look like and each would have a differant idea of what a sporty car should look like.

I think a lady wearing a pleated skirt just above the knees with pantyhose and a nice blouse is sexy.

Just my opinion guys,

Randy



Posted by: Eryk

>>But a lady can also dress sexy and not have to look like a hooker,she can >>look sexy and still wear a bra.

Wearing a bra when you have 'A' sized breasts is like wearing platform heels when you are 6'4".

>>I guess what I am trying to say is that each and everyone of us have a >>differant idea of what dressing sexy is.

Sure. I am sure that in Riyhad they have such a thing as a "sexy burqua". I am speaking within my own cultural context however.

>>I think a lady wearing a pleated skirt just above the knees with pantyhose >>and a nice blouse is sexy.

WHAT??!!?? You mean she might have her ANKLES showing??? D@mn!! Is there no end to your decadance and depravity? Next you will be advocating public displays of tables and pianos without concealing their legs (Arrrghhh!!! I said the word 'leg'!!! Impure thoughts are overpowering me!!! ...I must write a large cheque to Jerry Fallwell to 'cleanse my soul'!!). ....

Eryk



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
.I must write a large cheque to Jerry Fallwell to 'cleanse my soul'!!). ....

Eryk,if you would like you can send the large cheque to me and I will cleanse your soul...LOL start with one cup of vodka and a splash of orange juice...

Randy



Posted by: BradIL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eryk
>>WHAT??!!?? You mean she might have her ANKLES showing??? D@mn!! Is there no end to your decadance and depravity? Next you will be advocating public displays of tables and pianos without concealing their legs (Arrrghhh!!! I said the word 'leg'!!! Impure thoughts are overpowering me!!! ...I must write a large cheque to Jerry Fallwell to 'cleanse my soul'!!). ....Eryk





Posted by: OzGuyLooking

However she feel most comfortable within the bounds of the culture she is moving to, showing that she respects herself, her husband and her new surrounds. Thats JMHO so it probably doesn't count for much.

As far as the cleansing of the soul goes, just by a bottle of Vodka and have a drinking session, it will not only clean out your soul it will also clean your insides as well.



Posted by: bobjf

g/day oz & guys
just a thought
telling your girl or even offering an opinion on what way she should dress would get you greif you don,t want.
smart hubby or boyfriend will hold is tounge or offer praise lol
on personal level my rw was releived that aussie,s don,t realy follow fashion to much but do dress to be comfortable.
she will dress to suit the occaision but (very diplomatic hehe)always looks great



Posted by: RobOhioGuy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
After reading a few of the responses I am a bit surprised as is my wife!

Does a woman dress more provocative when she is on the market? I would say without a doubt yes! Comments?."


I dont really think that is true. Frankly, why would I want my wife to dress down now that Im married to her? If I was fine with how she dressed when we were in a committed relationship why shouldnt I be fine with the same dress now that we are wearing rings?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
Once a woman is in a commited relationship does she want to continue beating off the bozos and suitors propositioning her? My wife says no.We all know how many players are out there.

Do you guys seriously want other men hitting on your wife? Yes it will happen if she is dressed provocatively! Somethings are for my eyes only!


If your wife is smoking hot, trust me, your being married is not going to do anything to stop this. When we go out occasionally to dance clubs, men are constantly trying to hit on my wife... She wears nice dresses, or jeans and a nice top... When we go to malls on a regular basis she gets comments and by in large they are mostly from other women on how pretty she is.

This entire discussion really comes down to one thing. What the lady does when these things happen. IMO it is absolutely inappropriate for a married person (man or woman) to engage in or encourage flirtation. Being worried about how he or she dresses is childish and a sure sign of insecurity. What he or she wears is not important. What he or she does when someone tries to hit on/ pick up is FAR more important
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Posted by: Justlooking

I think every woman, married or single, should always look her best. A woman can be sexy and conservative at the same time. There's nothing wrong with a woman wearing a pretty dress or skirt, and heels to show off her pretty legs. There's also nothing wrong with wearing clothing that's slightly form fitting (Not too tight) to show everyone that she has a nice figure.
Now, if "sexy" means butt cheek baring shorts and skirts, and running around braless, I would say, no it's not okay for a wife and a Mother to dress like that. I don't see any reason for any woman to dress that way at all. I was looking at some of the pictures on this site, and all of the women I see are dressed very tastefully, yet, they aren't prudes. Even if they aren't running around half naked, they could catch the attention of just about any man. Maybe I'm not making any sense to anyone, I don't know. I guess sexy is in the eye of the beholder.



Posted by: Spakoyna

, surprised this thread or poll is still alive! Some very good points have been made here.

What prompted my wife and I to start this poll was from my wife's observations. She is a people watcher. We work together in a public venue at retail trade shows in various places. The questions and comments started coming when she would see married women letting it all hang out so to speak. She was quite appalled and would notice them being overly flirtatious!

Rob, you make some very good points and I agree to a degree. What I do not think you consider is the rules are different in most areas in America than many other countries. Especially when your lady 1st arrives, is a bit uncomfortable, and being overly polite so as to be accepted. My wife had a few uncomfortable situations from the a**holes playing their hand and no she was not letting it hang out. Yes she has learned now...funny one not too long ago...was sortta accidental but a guy was doin his thing....tried to kiss her hand...was holding on a bit hard and she ended up smacking him in the face trying to get her hand away! Was funny as H as the guy was totally put on the spot and embarrassed! Some guys just do not understand the difference when a lady is just trying to be polite...especially when she is working in a retail situation and needs to be polite.

Justlooking.... I think you describe the thoughts my wife has exactly! A woman can look sexy and feel good about herself without letting it hang out. Both my wife and I feel that a woman letting it hang out is trying to do more and solicit more than just trying to look good!



Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Quote:
Originally Posted by RBS
Ozzie,

It is repugnant to me that someone should suggest self-medicating with alcohol to cure any ill. Your advice that this person should inebriate in order to set things straight is irresponsible and rash. Please refrain from making such comments as they can be very damaging to people. Also learn to spell. It could help you not come across as a primitive. Just some well meant advice.

Gib


There was no reference at all to self medicating, it was a light hearted response to a joke started by other forum members concerning cleansing of ones soul, therefor Gib, it was a joke.

Now if you are saying that I am a Cro-Mag or a Neandertal, then you have really crossed the line. Because from what the National Geographic Magazines Genographic project is suggesting modern Humanity come out of Africa in the form of Homo Sapiens Sapiens, not simple and primitive Homo Sapiens such as Cro-Mags and Neandertals. It is the old 'East Side Story' scenario.



Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Quote:
Originally Posted by RBS
It is clear you have crossed the line and feel bad about it. I am glad. But I really want to emphasize that it is important never to encourage anyone to take drugs however light-hearted your quip may be. Please be a responsible citizen of this site.

Gib


Leave me out of your life.



Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Quote:
Originally Posted by RBS
Ozzie

You are not in my life. You are not even on my dance card. You are not even on the board.

Gib


Evidently I am in your way though. Don't flatter yourself anymore.



Posted by: lester

Ok Gentlemen, that's enough!
Stay on topic please!
Now to read some other threads that seem to have gone off topic too.



Posted by: Khashyar

Quote:
Originally Posted by RBS
Also learn to spell. It could help you not come across as a primitive. Just some well meant advice.

Gib


As I mentioned in the other thread about WW2, this is a personal attack, unecessary (spelling mistake we all make them), and against the forum guidelines.

Let's stick with the topic.

Thanks,

Khashyar



Posted by: Khashyar

Quote:
Originally Posted by RBS
Les,

I agree and I apologize for this deviation. I think Oz and I have ironed out our differences now and will not be talking to each other so we will not clutter the site with negative exchanges for which I most sincerly apologize (I am sure Oz feels the same way and should not be in any way sanctioned for his outbursts).


Gib


Gib,

Anyone who makes a personal attack, will be warned not to do so.

We all know how to behave in a civil manner from what we were taught in grammar school

Now let's put basic common respect and decency into practice.

Khashyar



Posted by: RoninRWP

How Should Russian Wives Dress…?

Conservative, Sexy or Whatever…

There is no doubt that this poll's verbiage leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Using the word "should" has control connotations. Were there exists rules of behavior; we are most likely talking about a society. Most all societies have norms; however, in our state of social transition it seems that we are lead to believe that anything is acceptable.

I would hazard to guess that many in this forum have gone or will go to the FSU because of the degradation of the family, gender roles and/or lack of suitable local women due to social transition. Perhaps some or all are in part chasing a dream of that idea of a perfect wife (to what every perfect means).

Regardless of the motivations, those that go to Russia in search of a wife know full well how they dress. It is perhaps what caught their eyes in the first place. Yet, I see it time and time again that once the RW is married to a WM he will start to change her into conformance to the local norms. Perhaps not intentionally, but change nevertheless. And in so doing undermines that which he had sought in the first place.

Yet, I’ve seen AM impress, more or less, dress codes on their RWives. Most of these husbands come from deeply religious backgrounds. So these RW cover everything up. Since nothing shows they start to lose respect for themselves. After a short time they morph into that can be called a typical AW. So why do these men go to Russia to find a bride in the first place? Who knows.

The words "sexy" and "conservative" are also up for grabs in the interpretation arena. For my wife, she says that she dresses conservatively. This means that she will not wear micro-minis. Pretty much everything else goes. My description for her attire is not "conservative." Perhaps alluring is more the word. Do I what to change this, of course not.

This is one of the endearing qualities that that I cherish. Dress is in part what separates our gender roles and defines what and who we think we are.

All WM want their RW to be functional in the new culture we have brought them into. This is an ever ongoing process. If the process is too slow, it is very likely that she will be unhappy. If the process is too fast, it is very likely that you will be unhappy. Striking a middle ground where one gives in to the preferred style of dress of a Russian wife is not a difficult concession. Perhaps even a no brainer.

RW should be allowed to dress in a manner that befits them. If we try to impress on them what they should wear, they will turn into something other than what we had envisioned.

RoninRWP

P.S. Of course this is IMO and YMMV.



Posted by: firemansam

How should a woman dress?
Well this would depend on the situation....

I think that if a woman is happy looking her best, let her be happy wearing whatever she likes, as long as she is happy (and it's not innappropriate. ie. string bikini at important business dinner lol!!).

If it calls attention to her, assuming she knows how to deal with any undue attention from horny men, fine.
If she desn't, maybe say something... Either to help her deal with said attention or how she dresses.

The ony problem I see here is if she is dressing to attract on purpose..
Then there are issues...
Having said that, you will never know till it's too late.
Sam.



Posted by: cedarwind

Quote:
Originally Posted by RoninRWP
How Should Russian Wives Dress…?

Conservative, Sexy or Whatever…


Regardless of the motivations, those that go to Russia in search of a wife know full well how they dress. It is perhaps what caught their eyes in the first place. Yet, I see it time and time again that once the RW is married to a WM he will start to change her into conformance to the local norms. Perhaps not intentionally, but change nevertheless. And in so doing undermines that which he had sought in the first place.

Yet, I’ve seen AM impress, more or less, dress codes on their RWives. Most of these husbands come from deeply religious backgrounds. So these RW cover everything up. Since nothing shows they start to lose respect for themselves. After a short time they morph into that can be called a typical AW. So why do these men go to Russia to find a bride in the first place? Who knows.

RW should be allowed to dress in a manner that befits them. If we try to impress on them what they should wear, they will turn into something other than what we had envisioned.

RoninRWP




Not all RW/UW dress in such away. All 3 of my good corespondances were very modest in their dress and would not stand out if they were here in the
US.

It is nice to see that I am no longer the only one who voted Conservative



Posted by: RoninRWP

Cedarwind,

Yes, yes, yes...OBHSS. Thanks for reminding me to amend my previous post with the ubiquitous "IMO" and "YMMV."

RoninRWP



Posted by: jeffs

I agree with a woman dressing how ever she wants... However... If the husband feels insecure about it, that is an issue that needs to be addressed. Marriages have ended over sillier things... and Kieth a woman going with out a bra and a see through shirt in your neck of the woods would probably poke yer eye out 9 months of the year.,... brrrrrr



Posted by: Jerico

Well I will say that my wife definately likes to dress sexy.
I like her looking sexy also
Unfortunately those sexy clothes tend to cost a lot of money.
She brought most of her clothes she wears with her from Russia.
She only likes a few stores here in the USA. Sacks fifth Avenue,Neiman Marcus, Norstroms , Bebe also Victoria Secret.
To my wife , however, it is not about how much clothes cost but about the quality of the item.
Jerry



Posted by: inlove

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerico
She only likes a few stores here in the USA. Sacks fifth Avenue,Neiman Marcus, Norstroms , Bebe also Victoria Secret.
To my wife , however, it is not about how much clothes cost but about the quality of the item.
Jerry


I hope you make enough money to support her Sacks Fifth Avenue purchasing tastes.



Posted by: Jerico

Quote:
I hope you make enough money to support her Sacks Fifth Avenue purchasing tastes


Hehhe , LOL
In Love, I dont make enough money for these clothes.
She actually buys cloths with her own money.
I have a hard time spending 300 dollars on a pair of pants or shoes.
She has no problem with this type of spending.
I just pay all the bills and her money is her money to do as she wishes.
Jerry



Posted by: Volga Trader

It is not so long ago since married women cut or put up their hair and changed their fashions compared to unmarried girls throughout most of Europe. In the rural South of Europe married women wore black clothes. I don't think the men made the rules. It was just the culture. In the UK, most women who are mothers seem to dress less fashionably than unmarried women. They have other priorities. So separation by fashion happens. For whatever reason, many Russian women have a different response. Perhaps they are making up for lost time in the Soviet Union. Whatever the woman do, separation of dress style in response to male diktat is another question altogether. Just now in Tehran there are laws being formulated against transparently thin head scarfs. Now that is conservative.



Posted by: RobOhioGuy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerico
Well I will say that my wife definately likes to dress sexy.
I like her looking sexy also
Unfortunately those sexy clothes tend to cost a lot of money.
She brought most of her clothes she wears with her from Russia.
She only likes a few stores here in the USA. Sacks fifth Avenue,Neiman Marcus, Norstroms , Bebe also Victoria Secret.
To my wife , however, it is not about how much clothes cost but about the quality of the item.
Jerry



Sounds like our wives are very similar my wife likes the same stores as well. She has decided that they are too expensive for the quality she sees. She wants us to buy clothes when we go back to Odessa. We can get a lot more for our money there than here. The one store she absolutely loves though is victorias secret.



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobOhioGuy
Sounds like our wives are very similar my wife likes the same stores as well. She has decided that they are too expensive for the quality she sees. She wants us to buy clothes when we go back to Odessa. We can get a lot more for our money there than here. The one store she absolutely loves though is victorias secret.


I love that store also......

Randy



Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
I love that store also......

Randy


Do you have a secret to share?



Posted by: mistermopar

Not what your thinking OzGuyLooking,LOL
I like it for what the women buy there.....

Randy



Posted by: sidney

You may want to look into a VS credit card/angel card. You get free and discounts at certain times like birthday, christmas, etc.
Sid



Posted by: sidney

You may want to look into a VS credit card/angel card. You get free and discounts at certain times like birthday, christmas, etc.
Sid



Posted by: ira156

Ok so whats sexy. Lets face it women and men dress to there best usally when they are seeking a partner. Women dress sexy to attract. There is a big difference between classy and sleezy. It comes down to what makes her feel good vs what makes you feel comfortable. Let me ask any fathers out there when they see a young women dressed a bit too sexy ( yeah it looks great ) would you like your daughter to dress the same. I bet a most of your wifes or partners look stunning in jeans or a ball gown. As long as she is happy in the way she is dressed and as long as you dont feel uncomfortable its not an issue. Would you show up to a Russian occassion dressed like a yobbo ( see ozzie slang ). no your partner would be embarrassed. Its all relative to occassion, customs and of course mutual respect. We also have a saying here ...mutton done up as lamb.



Posted by: gearheadgeek

This topic seems to miss the fact that one culture is being judged on the rules of another. This really came home to me while in Ukraine last week. What is sexy? African women can run around bare breasted while an Islamic woman dare not show an ankle. Ukrainian women do not seem to dress particularly sexy by their standards. There are no cat calls, no wolf calls on the street. Guys don't even seem to pay attention, yet the same dress is considered sexy here. But is it fair to apply our prudishness to a Ukranian womans fashion sense? While it may be better to dress like an American woman to fit into American society, I do not think it fair to say that the Ukranian woman is dressing sexy.



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by gearheadgeek
This topic seems to miss the fact that one culture is being judged on the rules of another. This really came home to me while in Ukraine last week. What is sexy? African women can run around bare breasted while an Islamic woman dare not show an ankle. Ukrainian women do not seem to dress particularly sexy by their standards. There are no cat calls, no wolf calls on the street. Guys don't even seem to pay attention, yet the same dress is considered sexy here. But is it fair to apply our prudishness to a Ukranian womans fashion sense? While it may be better to dress like an American woman to fit into American society, I do not think it fair to say that the Ukranian woman is dressing sexy.


Welcome to the RMP gearheadgeek.
Very well put gearheadgeek,every culture and country has their own way of dressing,and in their country it may not be sexy but normal.

Randy



Posted by: Jerico

Quote:
Guys don't even seem to pay attention, yet the same dress is considered sexy here.


The answer to this is easy.
Most American woman could wear the same clothes as Russian or Ukrainian girls but they probably shouldn`t if you get my meaning
Thats the difference.

My wife likes to dress sexy and like this as well. We will go to a mall and she wears some revealing clothing. Very revealing.
I must say she pulls this look off quite nicely
Jerry



Posted by: firemansam

I still say, if it makes her happy and does not offend you, then go for it!
Like Jerico says, he is happy with her choice.
If he was not, then this would be an issue, for them!
But it would still be ok for others.
Each to their own. We are all individuals, and so are the women we meet, and maybe marry. We all know what makes us happy.
Or at least, I hope so!
Sam.



Posted by: GoingToRussia

She my wear what ever is appropriate for the occasion, not always sexy, not always revealing, or not always conservative. It depends on the occasion. Since this is not one of the choices, I would choose "does not matter" because I trust she will dress appropriately.

GTR



Posted by: RobOhioGuy

Quote:
Originally Posted by gearheadgeek
This topic seems to miss the fact that one culture is being judged on the rules of another. This really came home to me while in Ukraine last week. What is sexy? African women can run around bare breasted while an Islamic woman dare not show an ankle. Ukrainian women do not seem to dress particularly sexy by their standards. There are no cat calls, no wolf calls on the street. Guys don't even seem to pay attention, yet the same dress is considered sexy here. But is it fair to apply our prudishness to a Ukranian womans fashion sense? While it may be better to dress like an American woman to fit into American society, I do not think it fair to say that the Ukranian woman is dressing sexy.



What in the good lords name would you want to go half way around the earth, meet a gorgeous woman who is likely uninhibited (by AW standards) woo her, fall in love with her, bring her home to your castle and then promptly begin to shove and mould her into an AW?????????????


Talk about having a major psychosis!



Posted by: waiting123

I am still confused on where we American men get the idea we can tell our wives / fiancee's / GF's how to dress, they are big girls...yes all grown up. I do not think I own or control my wife....I do not expect her to tell me how to dress. She will see how American woman dress, and if she chooses to change her attire then she has free liberty to do so.... This is our wives we are talking about not our daughters.

Let her be comfortable!!!! Love her, support her, and tell her how beautiful she looks, not matter what she wears.... this was my hmmm...........3.5 cents.



Posted by: RobOhioGuy

Quote:
Originally Posted by waiting123
I am still confused on where we American men get the idea we can tell our wives / fiancee's / GF's how to dress, they are big girls...yes all grown up. I do not think I own or control my wife....I do not expect her to tell me how to dress. She will see how American woman dress, and if she chooses to change her attire then she has free liberty to do so.... This is our wives we are talking about not our daughters.

Let her be comfortable!!!! Love her, support her, and tell her how beautiful she looks, not matter what she wears.... this was my hmmm...........3.5 cents.




I TOTALLY agree. My wife thinks most American women have ZERO fashion sense.

I must confess, though, my wife does certainly influence how I dress. I value greatly her opinion!



Posted by: waiting123

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobOhioGuy
I TOTALLY agree. My wife thinks most American women have ZERO fashion sense.

I must confess, though, my wife does certainly influence how I dress. I value greatly her opinion!


I agree with you on this one!!!! I would never tell my wife how she should dress....

I mean only if we have a formal dinner to attend, then I would tell her it is a formal affair or black tie ebent, then she would wear a nice dinner dress or cocktail / ball dress... but I know she would dress to the hilt, and all other woman in the area would be jealous of my wife

She looks good dressed up!!!! (and dressed down).....what the he$$ she just looks good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there I admitted it



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by waiting123
She looks good dressed up!!!! (and dressed down).....what the he$$ she just looks good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there I admitted it


Yes your wife looks good dressed up ... and you are allowed to admit it!

GTR



Posted by: bleushkva

My husband likes me wearing a little revealing clothes with nice nail polish from Chanel. Married people should be well dressed.

What really matters is what you wear inside. Not crappy underwear.



Posted by: prince_alfie

Uh... cute eh?



Posted by: SCOTTUSA

I am writing this not to judge anyone- but to express my views, like the majority of the people do.

I remember a story about a lady. She was well built and wore tight sweaters. She said: “I used to dress to knock men’s eyes out; now I dress to please the Lord (Jesus). This lady was referring to having just become a Believer.

I can think of 100 plus reasons to wait until marriage for sexual intimacy. If others are of the same mindset, a thread could be started with this focus.

Have a good day. –Scott

I voted conservative.



Posted by: Cheburashka

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTUSA
I can think of 100 plus reasons to wait until marriage for sexual intimacy. If others are of the same mindset, a thread could be started with this focus.


I am with you on that one my brother. But our views are pretty unpopular around these parts. And so we just share our opinions and hope that occasionally someone stops to ponder.



Posted by: cedarwind

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheburashka
I am with you on that one my brother. But our views are pretty unpopular around these parts. And so we just share our opinions and hope that occasionally someone stops to ponder.



Well that makes at least 3 of us....but I sure wish it was easier to find a Russian women who thought the same way. Not to change the thread subject

It is also nice to see that I am no longer the lone vote for conservative on this poll



Posted by: SCOTTUSA

Cheb/Cedar- Ya never know- the numbers could keep climbing. Personally I believe there's alot of people who believe the way we do. Theyr'e just not outspoken. But I do appreciate your responses.

I believe there are alot of Russian/etc women who want to wait until marriage. If you use the proper words in your men's advertisement(catalogue)- I think you can draw them. I have. I want to make it clear that I am just starting out- in finding a lady.

I am going to Europe to work for a month. If things work out I plan on seeing a lady in Russia. I've told her I would like to have at least one child with her. Her response was positive- Very positive. I plan on bringing up the "sex" topic- If not the first day, then shortly thereafter.

-Scott



Posted by: ira156

Hey Guys im not getting into the religious thing as i am one of the heathens..LOL...but i do respect you having your beliefs....on this topic it was interesting as i was discussing it with my Nat in Moscow. She dresses conservative i would say by Russian standards. I asked her about mini skirts and she replied...i have very beautiful legs darling ( and she does ) but she didnt like the undue attention she recieved. Lets face it ...this goes back to ancient times and in all societies.....women do things to attract the opposite sex...be it clothing... hair styles...jewelry... piercings...hair colour ...perfume...ect ect......i think that once a woman has found her man she should wear attire that both parties are comfortable with....within reason.



Posted by: nocomfortzone

he he. All this seriousness does kinda make me laugh.
I see you want to *impose* your views on a woman. There certainly does not seem to be entertained any thought from the person starting the thread to a woman can dress whatever way she chooses.
I guess if there are woman out there that feel they need to have views of a man *imposed* on them then good luck to each of you. I'm sure there are woman out there like that in all countries that believe they *should* do this and do that....

Certainly not my cup of tea in life with relationships but i guess the world would be boring if we all thought the same and could relate perfect with each other.
May diversity in life and people forever abound


Oops. I'm just adding this bit after i originally posted a few mintuies ago. I did not read the initial post by Spakoyna. Now that i read the feel of how you introduced the thread it does not sound so full on serious. I see you were just interested in the variety of views but a few people were taking it quite serious so i got the wrong flavour of the intial feel for why you started the thread and poll. I guess i'm not keen on the exact wording of the poll. I think the word should would be nice to take out of the human language.



Posted by: 4x4living

To me,, my wife should be conseravtive

Why?

1 - If she goes to the mall with somthing sexy,, she well attract other men and they well start looking at her (and that made me feel jealous )

2 - when the women decide to wear sexy cloth she know that this well attract many men, and some flirt her other may start flirt in a badly way (hey sexy , nice boobs, etc ..)

3 - when the women decide to wear sexy cloth she know that this well attract many men, so why sence she married try to put her self in this position (Should be somthing wrong in her)

4 - i don't accept that anybody could share anything in my wife even with a look (i mean the pleasure happens to u when u see yr girl looks sexy)



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4living
To me,, my wife should be conseravtive

Why?

1 - If she goes to the mall with somthing sexy,, she well attract other men and they well start looking at her (and that made me feel jealous )

2 - when the women decide to wear sexy cloth she know that this well attract many men, and some flirt her other may start flirt in a badly way (hey sexy , nice boobs, etc ..)

3 - when the women decide to wear sexy cloth she know that this well attract many men, so why sence she married try to put her self in this position (Should be somthing wrong in her)

4 - i don't accept that anybody could share anything in my wife even with a look (i mean the pleasure happens to u when u see yr girl looks sexy)


4x4,you will have a difficult time keeping men from looking at a Russian woman,most of them look sexy no matter what they wear.

Randy



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
4x4,you will have a difficult time keeping men from looking at a Russian woman,most of them look sexy no matter what they wear.

Randy


... or what they don't wear!!!



Posted by: cedarwind

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4living
To me,, my wife should be conseravtive

Why?

1 - If she goes to the mall with somthing sexy,, she well attract other men and they well start looking at her (and that made me feel jealous )

2 - when the women decide to wear sexy cloth she know that this well attract many men, and some flirt her other may start flirt in a badly way (hey sexy , nice boobs, etc ..)

3 - when the women decide to wear sexy cloth she know that this well attract many men, so why sence she married try to put her self in this position (Should be somthing wrong in her)

4 - i don't accept that anybody could share anything in my wife even with a look (i mean the pleasure happens to u when u see yr girl looks sexy)


Yes my thoughts are similar......If she is religious it won't be a problem as she will be dressing modestly to begin with.



Posted by: nflcolts

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
... or what they don't wear!!!


This brings back memories!



Posted by: cedarwind

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
4x4,you will have a difficult time keeping men from looking at a Russian woman,most of them look sexy no matter what they wear.

Randy


Yes you are correct

The women I am writing to now dresses very very modest but if she was in my town just her mannerisms and the personal style would turn heads.

But then again I live in the town popularized by Sir Mix a lots Bremerlos! Any skinny girl would look good.



Posted by: nocomfortzone

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4living
To me,, my wife should be conseravtive

Why?



You could have just summarised in saying your wife should be conservatively dressed because you don't want to have to deal with your own insecurities.

You may think you own your wife but every person and women is their own person and in my humble opinion can dress as they like. If they want to get married and be dictated to how they dress they are also free to choose that of obviusly many do sadly.

Also i think it is crazy to get obsessesd with what other guys are thinking. Focus on what is going on in your own mind would be my advice. What others are thinking is their business and yes it is obvious if the women themselves don't appreciate some attention they may get then it is up to them to figure out some balance in decorating themselves to look and feel attractive (which is a very deep aspect of all of them) without arousing unwanted attention.

May women be free to choose to dress or undress as they wish :-)



Posted by: GoingToRussia

I have a similar opinion NCZ. I think it is in a women's psyche to feel and look attractive to receive complements. Of course not all the time but I never met a woman that didn't like a complement, unless it was inappropriate.



Posted by: 4x4living

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
... or what they don't wear!!!



haha

yes most of girls in the agancies posting a dressless pic's



Posted by: 4x4living

Quote:
Originally Posted by nocomfortzone
You could have just summarised in saying your wife should be conservatively dressed because you don't want to have to deal with your own insecurities.

You may think you own your wife but every person and women is their own person and in my humble opinion can dress as they like. If they want to get married and be dictated to how they dress they are also free to choose that of obviusly many do sadly.

Also i think it is crazy to get obsessesd with what other guys are thinking. Focus on what is going on in your own mind would be my advice. What others are thinking is their business and yes it is obvious if the women themselves don't appreciate some attention they may get then it is up to them to figure out some balance in decorating themselves to look and feel attractive (which is a very deep aspect of all of them) without arousing unwanted attention.

May women be free to choose to dress or undress as they wish :-)



no body could ever own another body .. i just know what i want and what is my needs.

and u can call it simply an agreement

i say: i'd like you to dress conservatively (or i'd like my futured wif to be conservative) and this is my right

and she well replay : sorry i can't do this or i'll make whatever makes you happy (and this is her right too)

and also may she had a comment about anything in yr life

for example she may says: i want you to do all the house work..cause i don't like to do so..

you may say : yes or no or hire a servant

u r free .. she is free..everybody is free

i hope that i made my point of view clear



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by nflcolts
This brings back memories!


Anything you'd like to share?



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4living
haha

yes most of girls in the agancies posting a dressless pic's


Good to know you have a sense of humor 4x4!

Enjoy life!



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
Anything you'd like to share?


Now now there GTR,I'm sure your going to be making some memories very soon....LOL





Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Now now there GTR,I'm sure your going to be making some memories very soon....LOL



I hope so, in a week or less maybe!



Posted by: nocomfortzone

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4x4living
no body could ever own another body .. i just know what i want and what is my needs.

and u can call it simply an agreement

i say: i'd like you to dress conservatively (or i'd like my futured wif to be conservative) and this is my right

and she well replay : sorry i can't do this or i'll make whatever makes you happy (and this is her right too)

and also may she had a comment about anything in yr life

for example she may says: i want you to do all the house work..cause i don't like to do so..

you may say : yes or no or hire a servant

u r free .. she is free..everybody is free

i hope that i made my point of view clear



Yes, you did it very well mate.
Not easy when it is not your native language but i got the sentiment of what you meant. You did well and clearer to me now.
Yes, in any good healthy relationships both people need to have some agreements how they want their relationship to be and that is everyones right. It is also good to make it clear consequences if there is either partner drift or go against agreements they made together. Some of those consequences may well be leaving the relationship if either partner no longer is happy with their earlier agreements.
It is all about agreements, commitments and consequences if someone does not stick to what they say they agreed to then all the foundations for a relationship would be gone. Communication will always be the key



Posted by: deccie

I've always felt this question was phrased badly.

Personally. the answer to this question in my mind should be "However she damn well wants!"

But, a more personal question should be " How should a married woman WANT to dress"

This question is much more about _HER_ feelings about dress standards being compatible with your own rather than someone IMPOSING a choice on her.



Posted by: Spakoyna

I must say it has been interesting watching this poll I started unfold!

I will add some observations I have made!

My wife and I have met quite a few couples now. We have seen many failures. It upsets my wife now when she sees Russian ladies letting it hang out so to speak. We have witnessed 4 failures where the woman was dressing hot to trot...and yes we know for sure of 2 who eventually cheated on their husband. These 4 ladies also were hitting pretty hard on me...in front of their now ex-husbands and my wife! She says no wonder so many people think Russian woman are easy or prostitutes.

I have to say I agree with how my wife feels. This is what brought on the idea to start this poll.The Russian ladies we know who are in a good relationship never let it hang out. I personally don't like it either when a lady is hanging it out in my face either! Hell! I'm a man...how can I help but look! I do my best not to out of respect for my wife!



Posted by: nflcolts

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
Anything you'd like to share?


GTR
You know I would never kiss and tell. This would cause problems at home



Posted by: davidg

is there a difference between "no problem" and "does not matter"?



Posted by: Volga Trader

How should 56 year old man dress at a Russian rock concert he is attending with a 42 year woman on 14th Feb?



Posted by: AkMike

Simple! Dress to impress the lady. No one else matters. It's been a number of years ago that I was at one but there isn't ant dress code that I recall.



Posted by: goforit

Does this mean how she would dress in public?



Posted by: Legal

Quote:
How should a married woman dress?


to feel comfortable and confident in any situation; but her way of dressing also should make her husband feel comfortable and confident

Olga (Legal's wife)



Posted by: Seaview

Quote:
How should a married woman dress?


The same way as a single woman It's a matter of taste and not a matter of marriage.



Posted by: Spakoyna

I see my old thread has been ressurected! LOL Interesting response Seaview. I suppose it boils down to a matter of respect. My wife does not like overly revealing women offering up their goods so to speak. Keep in mind this all started because of a few incidents at the trade shows we do in our business. They are somewhat upper class, but other as well. My wife chooses to dress conservatively and I don't gauk at other women. I guess it's a decision one makes when they are married. If I was married to a woman that had to woo every man and let it all hang out(this was what she experienced) it would only be fair game that I can strive to see all the eye candy I can see! If you are married would you accept those terms?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
The same way as a single woman It's a matter of taste and not a matter of marriage.




Posted by: Buckeye5704

I voted a few days ago and haven't posted a response.

The lady I'm seeing right now dresses just the way like it. She's very sexy and dresses with a nice blend of sexy and conservative. She doesn't put her "goods" on display, but she still manages to turn heads everywhere we go. She has a class and style I've rarely seen in the women here and after six years in America she's still very Russian and still very much a Lady and she dresses like it.



Posted by: Seaview

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
I see my old thread has been ressurected! LOL Interesting response Seaview. I suppose it boils down to a matter of respect. My wife does not like overly revealing women offering up their goods so to speak. Keep in mind this all started because of a few incidents at the trade shows we do in our business. They are somewhat upper class, but other as well. My wife chooses to dress conservatively and I don't gauk at other women. I guess it's a decision one makes when they are married. If I was married to a woman that had to woo every man and let it all hang out(this was what she experienced) it would only be fair game that I can strive to see all the eye candy I can see! If you are married would you accept those terms?


OK It depends on the age. If a woman is 20 it's normal if she likes low cut dresses and mini skirts. If she is 40 it often (not always) looks cheap and vulgar.

I prefer conservative dresses because my work and my age dictates a conservative style now but when I was 20 I didn't care what my husband was thinking about my looks. I just wanted everybody to think "wow, she is so sexy ..."

And it never hurt me if his attention was drawn to another attractive girl, I was sure I was the best



Posted by: Chillidog

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
OK It depends on the age. If a woman is 20 it's normal if she likes low cut dresses and mini skirts. If she is 40 it often (not always) looks cheap and vulgar.

I prefer conservative dresses because my work and my age dictates a conservative style now but when I was 20 I didn't care what my husband was thinking about my looks. I just wanted everybody to think "wow, she is so sexy ..."

And it never hurt me if his attention was drawn to another attractive girl, I was sure I was the best

Very interesting point of view. It would appear that you are confident and comfortable with the person you are, and this is good. I see to many women (AW) who if you even just glance at another woman are completely pissed off at you , and to me this is a sign of someone who is insecure. The RW I have been with, personally I could not take my eyes off of them so I have no clue how any of the other women were dressed



Posted by: goforit

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
The same way as a single woman It's a matter of taste and not a matter of marriage.


Yes I agree. I like a woman who dresses elegantly and conservatively whether she is single or married. I don't think good taste has to do with the state of your relationship. I think a single woman can get away with pushing the envelope a little bit more but I always wonder about a woman who has her goods screaming in your face, so to speak.

One of my ex-girlfriends had an incredible body, I mean out of this world. Very easy on the eyes. One night we went out for a nice dinner and she had this little dress on that could hardly contain her up top and showed off her gorgeous gams as well. Now admittedly she was proud of her breasts and she was in very good shape (a former Miss Tropicana), but as soon as we sat down and she took of her coat and without any prompting from me, she looked at me and said, "I should probably cover up a little, huh?"

I just had this huge grin on my face and basically was thinking, "yeah, if its me you are having a date with tonight, that would probably be a good idea, but if you want every other guy gawking at you, then don't cover up."

Same thing happened when we were in Vegas. She would always dress in a revealing manner and then tone it down once we got out and she realized that wasn't necessary. And when she dressed elegantly conservative she got all the attention she wanted anyway.



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