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The weather today is PURE SIBERIAN HELL
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Posted by: andrei

I mean, I've seen everything but today it was -34 C. For those that know how to convert it to Fahrenheit, please do it so that everybody could PAY HOMAGE.))

I swear I could feel my saliva crisp in my mouth)))

They're forecasting -40C tomorrow..OMG

Posted by: ConnerVT

You don't need to know math to convert:

-34C = F---ing COLD!!!

But then, you don't get as much sympathy about it being as cold as Siberia, when you live in Siberia!

My wife likes to joke (I hope!) with me when it get's cold here in Vermont, that I took her to Siberia also. Seems she was checking the longitude, and Vermont isn't much further north than Sochi. The Great Lake region and the Jet Stream help make northern New England a lot colder than she expected.

Posted by: Mr.Humble

Well a quick bit of trivia....-40 Celcius is -40 Fehrenheit....the only place where the 2 temperature measures meet. (I work with Liquid Nitrogen ....I 'know' cold...).

At any rate -34 is freakin' cold.....nearly painfully so (haha...'nearly'...no...it is painful)....-40 is a good day to be inside....Hope you 2 are keeping warm somehow....I'm sure you'll do fine...

Posted by: Hostile_hostage

A slight change of topic. What will the average temperature be in Ukraine at the end of March?

Posted by: zaniac

Respect my friend!!!

-34C, now that's heavy!

Lol, I laugh at myself thinking back to my time in Ukraine, thinking I could hack the cold weather

I never realised it could get that cold. I assumed perhaps -20C on the rare occassion, but not -34C. Clearly I have a lot to learn

Posted by: inlove

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaniac

Respect my friend!!!

-34C, now that's heavy!

Lol, I laugh at myself thinking back to my time in Ukraine, thinking I could hack the cold weather

I never realised it could get that cold. I assumed perhaps -20C on the rare occassion, but not -34C. Clearly I have a lot to learn

Learn your geography.

Ukraine is not in Siberia.

Posted by: Leprechaun

I love modding my pc to make it shinier, faster and .......cooler.... maybe for the ultimate cool PC I should move to where you are and stick it outdoors.

Posted by: zaniac

LOL sorry inlove

I think I didn't type the sentance properly. I was meant to say that I didn't realise it could get that cold in Siberia. I know Siberia is not in Ukraine, but in Russia. However I appreciate the reminder

Posted by: zaniac

I remember walking down K-street in Kiev one day. I saw this big metal mesh sticking out all along a building, quite high up. Hanging off the metal mesh was some seriously big ice, I didn't realise this until I looked up above me. On the ground you could see where some of it had fallen onto the main path. I would dread to imagine if someone got hit by one of those, ouch!

Posted by: Irish Lad

My jaysus that must be torture in that weather i wouldn't be caught dead in Siberia

Posted by: searcher

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Originally Posted by Irish Lad

My jaysus that must be torture in that weather i wouldn't be caught dead in Siberia

LOL, I was caught live there not long ago

As for the conversion:
-34 degree Celsius = -29.2 degree Fahrenheit

Now thats friggin cold!!!!!!

Posted by: compucowboy

We get that sort of temp (-34C) every year here in Prince George, BC, Canada.

Yup, it's COLD. It gets colder though... much colder. Coldest we've had while I've been here is -44 C or something to that effect anyway. Apparently it gets to -50 C here occasionally. The prairies get those temps too. Thats nosebleed weather. Watch the wind chill!

This year, as opposed to most years when it is that cold right now, we are under the influence of a "pineapple express" (warm, wet, subtropical weather from the pacific) so right now we are +5C. WOOT! Makes for lousey hockey and snowmobiling though. Local outdoor rinks are bare ground right now.

When this pineapple express disapates, we are going to get nailed with some "real" winter. Considering that we are about 1500 m above sea level, and that we are subject to Artic cold fronts, it will not be pretty.

I feel for you Andei, but we are not far behind, just a matter of days...

P.S.: My advice is to strongly resist any temptation to lick frost from metal poles...

Posted by: GREGK

Andrei- What is the windchill factor or do they calculate that there? ( Might be best not to know!)

Posted by: ConnerVT

At these temperatures, wind chill factor is of little importance. The human body is only so efficient at radiating it's heat into the air. In other words, exposed flesh can only freeze so fast...

Posted by: mistermopar

Hey compucowboy,a normal winter in Timmins Ontario can easly get to -34,
and colder,then the wind chill on top of it.I have many times worked out side in it.Once you are use to it and dress properly for it....it is still dam cold.
In these temps it feels like your car has square tires for the first mile,until the frozen flat spot warms up.

Of course this year is very strange here,not much cold weather and hardly any snow.

Randy

Posted by: compucowboy

LOL! Even the slightest breeze at those temp's makes it feel like the temp dropped 50 degrees. You feel the cool breeze go up the back of your jacket or through the stitches in your gloves. You feel the cold on your thighs and cheeks, and through the soles of your boots.

We're a hardy people though. Anyone at this lattitude or higher. People aclimate too, which takes about 10 years (I think). My kids won't wear sweaters until about -35 C. (I freak when I find out of course) Believe it or not, but at those temps (-30 C) you would think that everyone would go about completely bundled up, but that is not the case. Most residents here just go about their normal business, they just don't hang around too long outside to chat idely. They pump gas, do their shopping, or whatnot. They might wear a toque or a scarf. You get the slightest breeze and the situation changes in a big hurry. People bundle up fast. But even then you see the odd idiotic teenager who thinks they are superman and can be found walking through the snow in SANDALS, sans socks of course!

The thing with cold is to wear lots of layers. You can always remove clothes if you get too hot, but its a lot harder to put more on when you are outside.

The first cold snap of a season always feels much colder than later ones. When you have experienced -40 C, when it warms to -30 C you feel like putting on your swimsuit. Seriously, it feels that much warmer.

I had a friend come up from Vancouver one time in January, and about -40 C. To him, it was unbelievably cold. We were out shopping or something and when we got in the house which was a balmy +20 C, he couldn't believe the difference. Understandable, since he had just gone through a +60 C change in seconds. It'll make your nose run. Anyway, he was thirsty and immediately reached in the fridge for a jug of milk. That was his second surprise. To him, it felt like he reached into the oven, as his hand lingered there for a few seconds. The fridge was +43 C warmer than what he had just experienced outside. He was truly shocked by the whole experience. Funny, he wanted to stay inside the rest of his visit...

Posted by: compucowboy

LOL! yup, flat spots on the tires. Thump, thump, thump as you drive down the road, shaking the crap out of you. I remember a flight I took one time, was delayed because the tires on the plane had flat spots. I feel for you guys though, we get dry weather here, not that humid stuff you get off the great lakes. Mind you, you're in Timmins, so maybe its about the same.

Ever have ice fog? Drive along the highway, come upon fog, and after a while realize that the side window is clear and the front window is still foggy. The stuff freezes to your windshield instantly. Can't use the washer fluid, even the -40 C kind, have to stop and scrape it off.

It don't matter though... at those temps, -30 C, etc. you still plug your truck in.

We laugh at news reports of Vancouver when we see that they have such a hard time driving with 1 inch of snow. The whole city shuts down. We get drops of 6-8 inches at a time. The only thing it changes here is people in small cars wait for the plows to come out. Kids still go to school normally, etc. We have a great city plow service here though, they even open our driveways up for us. No big ice furrows at the end.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by compucowboy

We're a hardy people though. Anyone at this lattitude or higher. People aclimate too, which takes about 10 years (I think).

Clapping for ten years is bound to warm you up. Sorry couldn't resist.

Well Hell must have diffenent meanings for different people. We have been having a cool spot in the Australian summer lately where I live. Only about 38 degrees. Thats about 100 or slightly over on the old f scale. You don't need electric/gas/fire to cook an egg it happens in the shell naturally. You don't even need to open the hot water tap you can get hot water out of the cold tap because it heats up in the copper pipes. If you don't find shade then you stop sweating after about 10 maybe 15 minutes of moderate to hard work. You can't strip of because it is not acceptable to be starkers in public.

We have had our 1st rain in over a month, it lasted 3 whole minutes

, and more fires started through lightning strikes. it isn't a nice feeling watching your neighbours farm burn waiting for the sparks to set your own place alight and wondering what you are going to do with 5 horses. BTW our farm is still grassy so the fire didn't get to us.

2005 was officially the hottest year in Australia on record. Hotter than 2004 by 2 degrees and 2004 was the previous hottest year on record. There is a picture developing here, I might make a movie out of it and call it "The Day After Tommorrow", should make a decent amount.

The coldest I have ever felt that I know off was -12 celcuis in Armidale which is the main regional centre and a University town in the New England district of New South Wales. I have camped in a 2 man tent in a storm at a small town called Blayney in Central New South Wales just near the best Motor Sport Track on the planet at Bathurst called Mount Panorama. I woke up the next morning, well more like opened my eyes for the sake off doing it cause I didn't get much sleep though the noise and the shivering, with 6 inches of snow around the tent caving it in. I don't know the temp on that night.

Posted by: deccie

Hi Oz,
It's a pretty scary thing to see all the reports of the permafrost melting.

I wonder what the pollies will do when after all their complaining and stalling we lose an asset like the Great Barrier Reef and all our capital cities need desalination plants to get water. Maybe the cost of converting off fossil fuels won't look so unrealistic then.

The whole problem with the economic argument is that WHATEVER the cost people still need water, air and food and we depend on natural processes to get them! I like to think of our water supply in these terms.. The amount of water our planet has is static, what changes is where that water is located.

Some tv program I watched years ago had some comment something like.. "in a single glass of water there are probably at least a few atoms that were once part of every real life hero you ever had or were part of every significant event that has ever happened on our planet." Looking at things in those terms really does bring home the concept of "the cycle of life".

Posted by: andrei

What an interesting topic it has turned out to be, I've learned a lot just reading the replies. I knew that Canada was harder than South Siberia, and I knew that Australia was THAT hot, but it's always astonishing to hear stories from the people that LIVE there.

BTW today it was -35 here in the morning and -30 in the evening. It's getting hotter!

And in North Siberia it was -50C today. Road patrol didnt allow people to leave the cities in their cars if they're alone, and the city-to-city buses only moved in pairs.

Posted by: mistermopar

Hey andrei,yup..know the feeling of -50.About 10 years ago here in Timmins we had about a three week spell of the -50,and with the wind chill colder.The wind had blew snow all over my old truck,when I went to take the snow off,a large pice of the paint shattered on the side of the truck,leaving the bear metal exposed.
I did not plug the old truck in because the cord was broken and to dam cold to stand out side and fix it.
But the old Dodge never let me down,of course it had a carb and not fuel injected,them ones were having all kinds of problems,the injectors would not spray the fuel properly because the fuel was so thick from being cold.
Mine,you pump the petal 4 times and would start and then stop,do it again and again,about the 4th time it would stay running,but not very smooth for about 15-20 minutes.

Randy

Posted by: compucowboy

Yeah, you don't want to be doing any long distance non-essential travel in those temps. It's down right dangerous to travel at times. When it's cold out here, the buses will pick up passergers anywhere, designated stop or not. I feel for those poor buggers in north siberia. brrrrr... Must be like Ft. McMurray, Alberta!

OZ guy that was pretty good. Believe it or not but chattering teeth is the body's natural way of generating energy. It just makes it hard to t-t-t-talk. LOL! BTW, my step-dad was from Melbourne.

In BC where I live, we have a very diverse geography. Only a few hundred km to the north, and you can start to find permafrost. Go a few hundred km to the south and you find a semi-arid desert. A few hundred km west and you have rain forest. A few hundred km east and you have ice-fields.

Up north, they built a rail line about 25 years back. They had to stop work over the winter of course, so they left the work engines and materials on site. When they came back in the spring, it was all gone. Track, engine, and everything. Not stolen, but sunk into the muskeg!

We have no shortage of water here. There are huge lakes everywhere. Down south, the semi-arid desert areas are even surrounded by water. The water drains off the mountains, but it doesn't rain much there. It's a rainshadow effect from the coastal mountains. Last year, some guy threw a cigarette out that started a grass fire that burned up half the town.

Talk about global warming though. This year we had a green christmas. Unheard of. Usually around christmas here, we have about half a meter of snow, and temps of about -15C. This year green grass (not even brown) and +5C. People were out pruning trees, and cleaning gutters over the holidays.

Posted by: compucowboy

3 weeks? crap! 10 days is bad enough.

When I was knee high to a grasshopper, my family lived on the prairies. We moved west when I was 3. My mom's family had homesteaded there. Of course that is where my mom grew up.

She used to tell me stories of when she was young and living on the prairies out on a farm. They had farm trucks of course. To get them started sometimes, they had to actually light a fire underneath the truck. They had to stay out there a tend the fire or it would catch on the grease and they would lose the vehicle. They had to know how to have a hot fire without high flames.

When I first moved here, I recall a story of a guy that had an old 60's vehicle. Don't know if it was true or not, but makes for a good story anyway. Not sure of the make, but the interior was vinyl everything. Anyways, it was real cold and in the morning, as he got in the vehicle, the seat cover shattered. He somehow bumped the mirror out of position and went to readjust it, it broke off in his hand. He couldn't get the car started, and was understandably getting frustrated and thumped the dash with his fist, cracking the dash. Talk about a bad day...

Posted by: mistermopar

Oh,I can believe that story,cold enugh and vinyl or plastic will crack and shatter.
Jaguar was using Timmins for their cold weather testing for many years,I think they just pulled out of here last year.Not sure if they will be returning or not.

A good bottle of Vodka

will help keep you warm on them cold winter days.

Randy

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

We had 6 millimetres of rain last night, woo hoo. God I get excited easily nowadays.

Deccie the global warming arguement in Aus is getting stupid. People, mainly farmers, industry, and government, don't really give a fat rats about what is going to happen as long as they still get their cash. If you get the time go to Newcastle and see how clean the city is now BHP has gone. It used to be all coal dust now it is clean as. I am rather p'd off with this new climate group, they dont want to set targets the want to have new technology to make dirty fuels cleaner. Sorry but dirty fuel is dirty fuel it cant be made cleaner. We really so much on Diesel and Unleaded, much of it imported becuase of silly agreements within OPEC, when we can supply everyome with LPG for 200 yeras, houses and transport. We can also produce it and seell it on to the public for about 15 -20 cents a litre. Guess what, we sell it to China for 4 cents a litre. While we pay unreal prices for a natural resource, oil based fuels, that we also have in plentyful supply.

As for the temps in Aus, I live in a regional area that is not really hot so to speak. Go to outback Queensland to a place called Camoweal, they pride themselves on the tourism add, "Camoweal, Hotter than HELL".

In the early 1990s I lived in South East South Australia and each Christmas we had our wood fire burning to keep the house warm. Yet in NSW they were having blackouts because the electricity grid couldn't copew with the drain caused by Air Conditioners. I felt sorry for the New Zealanders though when their entire system shut down in Auckland, 15 degrees is a hot day there and they were hitting 30 without electricity and no way to cool down apart from a trip to the beach.

Posted by: compucowboy

Camoweal? Hmmm.... had to look that one up. Never heard of it before. I was expecting it to be near the Macdonnell range or the simpson desert, there it was way up north in the Barkly's.

We have a place like that here called Lytton, BC. It's typically one of the hottest places in Canada in the summer. Easily over +40C sometimes. Drier than a mummy's spit.

I got out of the car there one time, and starting doing the high step to the nearest shade almost immediately as my sandals started melting.

Posted by: deccie

On the ABC website today...

http://www.abc.net.au/news

Red centre's records melting

The Bureau of Meteorology says Alice Springs is experiencing some of its warmest temperatures on record.

The bureau's manager of climate services, Sam Cleland, says it has been above 41 degrees for 10 consecutive days in Alice Springs, beating the 1971 record of eight consecutive days.

He also says if the mercury reaches its forecast temperature of 41 today, Alice Springs will match the 1971 record of 12 days in a row above 40.

Mr Cleland says warm temperatures are likely to continue until Friday, meaning the town could break both records.

"Over the next couple of days it might cool a little bit, I am not sure it will feel that much more comfortable though the cooling will be associated with a bit more humidity coming in as well, so generally staying quite warm," he said.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by deccie

On the ABC website today...

http://www.abc.net.au/news

Red centre's records melting

The Bureau of Meteorology says Alice Springs is experiencing some of its warmest temperatures on record.

The bureau's manager of climate services, Sam Cleland, says it has been above 41 degrees for 10 consecutive days in Alice Springs, beating the 1971 record of eight consecutive days.

He also says if the mercury reaches its forecast temperature of 41 today, Alice Springs will match the 1971 record of 12 days in a row above 40.

Mr Cleland says warm temperatures are likely to continue until Friday, meaning the town could break both records.

"Over the next couple of days it might cool a little bit, I am not sure it will feel that much more comfortable though the cooling will be associated with a bit more humidity coming in as well, so generally staying quite warm," he said.

And we get the exact same weather the very next day. Had a severe weather warning today and within 1/2 an hour you should have seen the wind and lightning. then the rain hit. my little dog was scared pooless. I didn't get to see the weather report tonight but I suspect itwas the tail of the cyclone of WA.

Yes Camoweal is in the Queensland part of the Barkly. 400km west is the Barkly police station in the middle of nowhere heading towards Tenant Creek. Why is there a police station in nowhere land, cause there are CRAZY people out there. Then you have the Barkly homestead which is a huge truck stop and meeting place. also in the middle of nowhere, the crazies meet up there. After that you have 3 ways and just south of that is Tennant Creek. All this area BTW is pure dee desert. Not a drop of water to be scene for miles. And people live there. Jeeeees I live in an awsome country.

Posted by: compucowboy

I love geography, that is why I am studying it. It makes sence that Camoweal is hot, now that I think about it, being closer to the equator.

I would agree with you about it being awesome, and I think the same about where I live. We call it "Beautiful BC" for a reason.

I remember working in Kamloops, about 15 years ago. I was stringing wire in a new building. They didn't have any insulation in yet, and it was a metal clad building. Outside the thermometer read 44 C. That was the hottest I've ever been, including my travels to mexico, the carribean, and the philipines. Inside the building, it was even hotter. Like being inside a large easy bake oven. My clothes were entirely soaked. I nearly passed out from fluid loss. You had to drink constantly. I remember I was worried about getting shocked, because I was sweating so much, I was dripping on the wire contacts and my tools.

I don't know what Lytton's temp was that day, but it is usually a few degrees higher than kamloops. There's not much vegetation around lytton, mainly sage brush rolling around, and the odd tuft of porkupine grass or something resembling that. Up the road, they grow ginseng now, but they have to cover it with tarps for shade.

Posted by: bobjf

oz, deccie, comon guys even sydney gets regular temps over 40 in summer though not everyday thank god
newyears day on bondi beach it hit 44 c
we had 47 out here in campbletown last week, for our friends over the pond southwest of sydney & only about 20 klicks.
i thought the aircon had died but it just couldn,t cope with the heat,dialed all the way down to straight cold but it didn,t help.
we also had several days below zero in winter.
places in the outback often get over 50 in the shade too
so saying all this i also experianced siberian winter in 04 brrr
natasha,s mum said on the phone the other day they had an alert to stay indoors & to close all internal doors, they were predicting -40 to -45, wait untill you see 1 of those double jointed bus,s slideing down the road towards you with all the wheels locked up, bloody good drivers they manage to keep them straight & on the road, bit scary for an oz boy not used to such things.

hey oz go figure kurnel residents arking up over desalination plant when there already liveing next door to a bloody oil refinery, know which 1 i rather have.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Bob mate, having grown up in Sydney myself in various parts I just wanna say they can have Kurnel, the place stinks of sea weed and goodness knows what else.

I can see some of the prob with the desal plant but only becuase bodgy Bob, and no I'm not refering about you, did the dirty on the denizens of that fair area. really he had an alterior motive to that. He was overseas and no-one new what he went over for and then all of a sudden Sydney has to have a desal plant. SHeez my teachers at school in the early 80s said it would happen but he hid the reasons for his trip. And what then lo and behold he quits as premier leaving Iemma to tidy up a PR mess with the NSW public and more importantly the residents of Kurnell.

Back to happier discussion, guess what, we had more rain today. And the country music fans are starting to arrive

. Now I go into hiding to keep away from all the ten gallon hats on the five gallon heads. I could describe how they look even more but I dn't want to insult various cyber friends so I will suggest that you watch the news over the next coupla weeks and see what a bunch they look like. Hey we have both types "country AND western". I miss good old Aussie music like Chisel, Aussie Crawl, Men At Work etc. I think I am showing my age.

Posted by: deccie

Actually, you guys are more than welcome to keep Sydney to yourselves..

I did some job interviews there years ago and can recall thinking in the middle of the interview.. "I'm never coming back here again.."

It just doesn't do anything for me at all.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Sydney's a great place, I mean tha sincerely. I wouldn't be who I am today if I didn't grow up there. But I also wouldn't be who I am if I didn't live in Darwin and Millicent in SA either. Like I said to you the other day Deccie, I would like to go to the central coast of QLD or better still FNQ. They get more rain there than we do here. Also the fishing is better on the coast in Qld than on the inland rivers of NSW.

Seriously though Sydney has its good points, I just don't have the inclination to live there again. 18 years was enough.

Posted by: bobjf

hi guys, sydney is home & as good as anywhere in aus, just depends on your dispersition. i lived in most states,can,t stand humidity in toad land though enjoyed the fishing.
i,ll stick to visits lol.
same for nt & wa was the pits for the most part.i,m with you oz, chisel,acca dacca & i don,t care if i.m showing my age
been where your referin,won,t again.
bob

Posted by: swindoom

I was in Omsk on the 10th with my wife, we just spent most of the day in the sauna, drinking Siberian Corona.

Posted by: andrei

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Originally Posted by swindoom

I was in Omsk on the 10th with my wife, we just spent most of the day in the sauna, drinking Siberian Corona.

NO SH-T!!???!!!!!

Posted by: myshka

My husband has been home in NSK (Novosibirsk) since the NY holidays and has been having -40 deg. days which is unusual for them, -35 isnt but lower is. It has been one cold winter there!

Of course here in Pacific NW, we have an unbroken rainy streak of 26 days and counting.

Posted by: compucowboy

Those places are near the tropic of Capricorn, a few degrees lattitude either way. Understandable, and none-the-less +50 C is damn hot. They get the heat, but it doesn't get too cold either. Does it even freeze there? It's surprising that people live in places sometimes, even here.

The place I am talking about (Lytton) is at 50 degrees north lattitude (similar to Plymouth, England, or the equivalent of 1100 km south of the southern tip of Tasmania). Mighty impressive when you think about it.

Where I live at (53 degrees north lattitude, the same lattitude as Nottingham, England), the range of temps winter to summer is about -45C to +35C. Thats 80 degrees. We haven't had -45C for a couple of years now though, prior to that it was regular as clockwork.

Posted by: compucowboy

Hey cool! You're not that far from me then, in a relative sense. Maybe 1000 km.
Those weather systems are dumping on you and then coming up here and giving us this wonderfully mild winter. We've had about the same stretch of mild weather since just prior to christmas, with very little moisture (snicker). Wonderful snowmobiling weather here.

Posted by: Jutman

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Here is a something my family told me, they live at the banks of Volga.

6am it was -8C�, about 9am it was -14C�, around 3pm it was -19C� and in the evening it was the -27C� and lthe folllowing nigth it was -37C�.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

I have just finished chatting to a lady 'friend' in Ekaterinaburg and she tells me it is -35 there right now. I could see she wasn't kiiding because her spelling was atrocious, more so than usual. Here at home we are having a nice cool 31 celcuis.

Posted by: bobjf

whats this oz
you keeping something from us
deccie has the address of the nose percer lol
cheers mate

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

I'll PM ya Bob

Posted by: deccie

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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking

I have just finished chatting to a lady 'friend' in Ekaterinaburg and she tells me it is -35 there right now. I could see she wasn't kiiding because her spelling was atrocious, more so than usual. Here at home we are having a nice cool 31 celcuis.

Hi Oz and Bob,
Yeah, I've been looking at web cams of St Petersburg as well as talking to my lady friend today.
-20+ in St Petersburg right now... and K works late so she doesn't get home until 7pm or after.. must be frickin' freezing!

One side of me wants to be on the plane tomorrow but the other side is glad that there is 95 days (gee, am I counting.. (-: ) to go so it gets a chance to be a bit warmer!

Yeah Bob, that hook is starting to get set I think... can't feel a thing lalalalalala...

Posted by: bobjf

hi deccie, counting down mate.
-20 is still possible in march april lol.
it will bother you more than her, i used to wonder how nat could go out to inter/cafe in the middle of winter at night, she would just say it,s normal.
mate i still can,t feel the hook but i know it,s there lol.
suspence is killing me oz lol

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

all typed and sent to ya bob, deccie and mark.

Posted by: Hostile_hostage

I'm off to the Ukraine in the middle of March. I usually travel very, very light. I tend to buy what i need once i arrive in the country. I hope i won't be freezing my *nackers off as i arrive on a Sunday. I definately aim to get some shoes/boots on the Monday morning.

Posted by: bobjf

hi oz.
mate go to a news agent & get a paypeanuts phone card (strip type) $ 20 1 gets us over 400 minutes to barnaul & you can use it on your mobile.
if you dial local number to access card you will only pay local mobile charges.
i have used this card for over 2 years now,it is almost always clear & connections are good to.
if you can,t get it easily it is also available on the net.
wish you luck mate
bob
oz if you use local card access you can bypass your phone block as you will be going through there server, lot cheaper

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

thanks bob

Posted by: bobjf

old saying hostile goes something like freeze the balls off a brass monkey lol
hope there is a welder open for you lol
glad my traveling days are over for now.
nice +27 here but a bit wet
cheers bob

Posted by: Hostile_hostage

Hopefully the apartment will have a bath and steaming hot water. (Preferable to a blow torch lol )

P.S. I've just had a thought...... i've got a 6 hour car journey from Kiev to Chernivtsy. I hope the cars hearter doesn't pack in? That's if it has a heater. lol

Posted by: andrei

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Originally Posted by Hostile_hostage

Hopefully the apartment will have a bath and steaming hot water. (Preferable to a blow torch lol )

P.S. I've just had a thought...... i've got a 6 hour car journey from Kiev to Chernivtsy. I hope the cars hearter doesn't pack in? That's if it has a heater. lol

Cars ALWAYS have a heater in the FSU. You might even get a lil sleepy of the heat on that 6 hour ride. As for hot bath - hmmmm,,,, ....anything can happen!

Posted by: Novosibirsk1

Yep. On 1/12 the highh temp in Novosibirsk was -31F and the low temp -47F. A bit on the nippy side I'd say.

Posted by: Irish Lad

Here in Ireland we are having a relatively good winter,lowest it's been recently has been +4 degrees,a few days ago it was +13 degrees which was excellent for January

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Well I'm embarrased, here we are in high summer after a coupla weeks of over 40 and no rain in sight. We have had rain periods now for over a week and today it is nippy, I dunno what the temp is but it has to be about 20 below what it was 2 weeks ago. Have the house opened up to get some airflow through and the fans on because of bad house design. I dislike stuffy houses where the air is stale and hard to breath. The house would be good in Europe but sucks big time here in Oz. Anyway I'm cold now, so much so, and this is the embarrasing bit, I have my trackies and ugh boots on.

Posted by: bobjf

oz, trackies & ugh,s in summer . mate you had better not go to russia in winter, you,d kark it lol
temp gauge is showing a touch over +20 what are you gunna do at -30 lol
oh well at least the boats getting wet he he
cheers mate

Posted by: bobjf

don,t count on it hostile, when i was over there it wasn,t uncommon for the hotwater to be off for days & a hotshower that suddenly goes cold well definately get your attension very quickly. welder will be needed fast lol

Posted by: bobjf

hi andrei.
it depends on the car,first taxi i jumped into had an airconditioned floor, no heater will cope with that, could of done a fred flinstone lol.
it wasn,t last russian car i refused to travel in either

Posted by: vic2012

Hi Andrei,

What�s it like at the moment, in Omsk. I�m coming out there on 3rd Feb. I take it, I don�t need to pack my shorts. Do the flights still operate normally in these temperatures?

Posted by: Chrismc

Iryna just told me on the phone it is -26C in Kharkov, Ukraine where she lives today and a snow blizzard, but yesterday it was -35C in Moscow.

She says tomorrow it is forecast for a heatwave just -12C so warm enough to sunbathe he he She says if it rises to -2C for the weekend and stops snowing she can go skiing. The cold does have its good points sometimes!!

Chris

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

I have told J about how I am with the cold, she said she would sit in the Ekaterinaburg hopsital with me. Apparently yesterday was -41 there. Heres the crunch she has travelled to Egypt and feels anything over 30 is to hot. What am I gonna do? She can live in the Southern Highlands and I'll move up to Ayr in Qld. We can continue the long distance relationship here in Oz.

Bob I suffer with the cold mate. Loved Darwin alot, best place for climate in Oz. Never even had the fan on last night down at the farm and I slept like a baby.

Posted by: bobjf

hi guys natasha watched russian news this morning, they showed people swimming in yakuteia it was -58 they were being baptised, nat says they have to submerge 3 times lol brr
nats mum said it was only -32 today in barnaul almost a heatwave he he

Posted by: bobjf

oz mate she will keep you warm if she is anything like nat.
i,v learn,t to sleep with her rapped around me like a bloody octopuss lol.
aircons take care of the rest
oz i,m the opposite, not to keen on heat unless it is dry.
you can always get warm but not always get cool.

Posted by: deccie

The Bond movie line of "shared bodily warmth" comes to mind. (-:

Posted by: andrei

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic2012

Hi Andrei,

What�s it like at the moment, in Omsk. I�m coming out there on 3rd Feb. I take it, I don�t need to pack my shorts. Do the flights still operate normally in these temperatures?

The flights operate OK. The air is crispy clear, so why shouldnt they. Right now it's even colder than when I started this thread - about -36C. So be prepared to SEE your breath and HEAR your eyes blink. )))))))

Posted by: zaniac

"Hear your eyes blink" wow!

I'm going Kiev possibly in early February. I'm sure it will be a warmer then. However Kiev I'm sure is always going to be warmer than Siberia, isn't it?

I'm thinking now about what I need to wear. Never ever experienced anything below -5C, from what I remember.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobjf

oz mate she will keep you warm if she is anything like nat.
i,v learn,t to sleep with her rapped around me like a bloody octopuss lol.
aircons take care of the rest
oz i,m the opposite, not to keen on heat unless it is dry.
you can always get warm but not always get cool.

Bob you must have one special woman, I knew the soviets were conducting experiments but an 8 limbed woman. I suppose I can deal with that, all the more to snuggle up to hey.

You want dry heat come to Tamworth, 34 today apparently, YEAH RIGHT, and about 1/2 % humidity. So dry and still you can feel you skin shrivelling and hear the flys coming from 100 miles away. Give me Darwin anyday, at least they know they will have a wet season and I was never in anything above 35 when I was there.

Posted by: bobjf

yer oz certainly feels like more than normal but i no complain he he
we had the same but about50% humidity too or it felt like it.
had intended to check out boat trailer but got dragged off to look at new lounges sigh
at least she wasn,t hard to please & it didn,t hurt as much as i thought it would lol.
love that girl

bob

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by bobjf

love that girl

bob

This is indeed a good thing

Posted by: Raspberry

Global Warming? WHAT global warming?

Posted by: bobjf

hi oz yes a very good thing, funny thing is i can,t get enough lol.
mate just got an invite to wedding of 1of the aussie guys who,s fiance got her visa in 5 weeks, just goes to show there is no escaping these rw,s when they decide the chase is over. lol
cheers bob
no no raspberry global freezing, don,t you know not to trust a weatherman lol

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by bobjf

no no raspberry global freezing, don,t you know not to trust a weatherman lol

Haven't you seen 'The Day After Tommorow'? Just goes to show Bollywood, sorry Hollywood has just as much of an idea as the scientist who helped to stuff the planet to the stage we have it at now. Good movie tho.

Posted by: PollyRussia

It's -47 on the outside
But love is warm.

Posted by: bobjf

oz mate don,t wish that on us, i have it on dvd & yer it,s not bad,scary thinking it could happen.

Posted by: bobjf

hi polly welcom to rmp.
love is not only warm but decidely compulsary at that temp brr.
were i come from in auss the coldest we had last few winters was -4 bloody cold by our standards lol
we might get below zero days about 3 or 4 times a year but it can get a lot colder in the snowfields, not a place i tuse to go lol.

Posted by: Tatsy

In Novosibirsk is - 44C now. I do not go out.

Why can I often not translate what Australians write?

Posted by: BradIL

Tats... you have my condolences! You must feel TRAPPED in your flat!

I don't know how you can stand it!

Posted by: Tatsy

No, in my flat it is very cosily, nicely and warmly... :-)

Posted by: PollyRussia

In my friend's flat was as cold as outside. (it was -20 in flat!!!)
But now it's warm.

Posted by: mistermopar

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Why can I often not translate what Australians write?

Tat's,I speak english and I can't understand what they say most of the time.LOL Just joking guys.

Randy

Posted by: EasyTarget

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Originally Posted by Tats

Why can I often not translate what Australians write?

Tats: they are speaking Australian not English. Australian is its own language, much the same way that Canadian-French is different from Parisian-French. Maybe you can find an Australian to Russian translator / dictionary?

Posted by: clever1

Tats, its because they do not speak the queens English, with a plum in their mouths, like wot we do ................ ere in blighty

John

Posted by: zaniac

Austrailian English is upside down, when you compare it to UK English

Just jokes Aussie dudes

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by clever1

Tats, its because they do not speak the queens English, with a plum in their mouths, like wot we do ................ ere in blighty

John

Neither do you John.....the correct pronunciation is "like wot us dus ................ ere in blighty" but with a South Yorkshire accent!!

and here are a few more:

Hear all. See all. Say Nowt.

Eat all. Sup all. Pay Nowt.

Here's To me, me wife's husband, nay forgettin' meself.

And if thy ever does owt for nowt? Thy mun allas do it for theself.

summat abaht thes non as daft sa them as dooant wana now

EE couldn't pout watter out of 'is booit if t'instructions were on t'eel

If that put is brains in a bee it'd fly backwards

Tha's as thin as a yard o' pump watter

Eee. I'll go to the foot of our stairs

Tha's nowt ser queer as fowk

Eeh by gum lad. Dunt tha know wot weiz talkin abart?

and I'm from Lancashire

!
Sorry TATS don't even try and learn this it is not worth it unless you plan on visiting John!!

Chris

Posted by: zaniac

As they say in Emmerdale or Coronation Street (I think):

"I'll hav nowt o' that"

Posted by: Tatsy

Likely Austrailian English and UK English are like Russian and Ukrainian. I do not understand Ukrainian very-very often.

Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tats

Likely Austrailian English and UK English are like Russian and Ukrainian. I do not understand Ukrainian very-very often.

Yes there are many types of English and all have their own idiosyncrasies and even we who speak English struggle at times with certain dialects until you get use to hearing them. The Yorkshire sayings above are typical of that area of the UK it is not easy to understand the slang they use.

But Yorkshire is only one of many dozens in the UK alone, then you get many more in other English speaking countries also just to make it even harder.

Chris

Posted by: mistermopar

HA HA,I live in the province of Ontario and when I meet with and talk to someone from the province of Newfoundland,I am lost,don't have a clue what they are saying

but it is still English that they are speaking.

Randy

Posted by: bobjf

hi tats, don,t worry about it ,natasha comes from barnaul,has been here for year & understands us most of the time unless we are haveing a shot at her.
she dosn,t fall for it much anymore lol .
she had a little fun with the new english teacher in the school she taught at befor she left,poor girl thought she understood english too untill nat told her she hadn,t learn,t english but was learning to speak australian. so you don,t speak any english says the teacher, no mate only australian says nat
havagoodone he he
bob

Posted by: bobjf

g/day john, take the plum wot you got stuck in your mouth & eat it, there for eating not talking around lol.
tats at least in oz accent & laugage stays the same everywhere not like in uk where even they can,t understand each other if they wander into the next county he he.
if you talk like a queen in oz we have another name for you lol.
don,t get bent out of shape guys aussie humour lol
get that upya
cheers bob

Posted by: bobjf

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermopar

HA HA,I live in the province of Ontario and when I meet with and talk to someone from the province of Newfoundland,I am lost,don't have a clue what they are saying

but it is still English that they are speaking.

Randy

you have now put your foot in it randy oz is only country were you will be understood anywhere if your australian that is,
uk is different from 1 county to the next, americans say you can pick which state there from by the way they speak & now your telling us it,s the same in canada lol
cheers guys

Posted by: deccie

Probably the easiest way to explain it is the difference between written English and spoken English.
Bob is just writing how he speaks and loves our Australian idioms.
There are a lot of unique Australian words and phrases..
Just some I can think of..

Bonza.. crikey..

Another big one is the use of the term "mate" in the sense of what an American might term a buddy. There was a big stink in parliament when some public servant banned the term mate within parliament. He was given a dressing down in no short order. (-:

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Bob, there had to be a 1st time mate. I humbly disagree wid ja. Go to South Oz and try to talk to some of the proper poopers over there. No offence Mark. When I lived in Millicent 1/2 way between Melbourne and Adelaide it took me 3 weeks to get the gist of what they were saying let alone on about.

Give you an example In NSW we say school, as in fish or place of learning, in SA they say scooool, no 'h' sound at all. They also said we say skewel, like harry kewel. It is way different in Perth apparently but have no experience of that yet miself. In Bundaberg in Qld an egg will boil before they get the word out. Joke.

Tat's, English is English but it is different everywhere because believe it or not us English speakers generally have high opinions about our own countries. We think we do things better and this even goes for our mother tongue. In Australia English has been given the name Strine simply because we shorten everything so we went from Australian English to Strine.

How many dialcts are noticable in London 4? 5? 6? Go to the border of England and Scotland and then go further into Scotland it is different again. Then go to John o Groats, You would be able to understand it if you weren't born in Scotland or had prior experience of it. I'm fortunate my dad's a Scot and I have to decipher what he says for people because they cant understand him yet I usually, not always, can understand any accent in Britain.

Deccie did you also watch 'On the Busses' & 'Love thy Neighbour'?

Posted by: bobjf

yer dec just a bit suss the dressing down came from such a shonk.

bloody ripper rita lol
say g/day to the lovely k
cheers cobber

Posted by: bobjf

hey oz where did you get the idea i was right about anything he he
you gave it away, proper poopers, you git there from the old country & different counties at that lol
good shows,don,t forget spike (curry & chips).
you may humbly disagree with me anytime your little heart desires hmm were did i put that shark hook lol.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

The shark hook was probably sent to Mark for his little prob.

Posted by: bobjf

nah mate sent it to k for deccie lol.

Posted by: zaniac

I remember when me and some mates went for a mini tour to the north of England for a four days. We ended up at quite far north in Newcastle/Gateshead and stayed at a little bed & breakfast place. The owner had a really strong geordie (Newcastle) accent and when she spoke to me I couldn't understand hardly anything that she was saying. I picked up a few words and got the general idea, but sometimes had to confirm what she was saying. It felt embarrassing at the time lol

Posted by: deccie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tats

Likely Austrailian English and UK English are like Russian and Ukrainian. I do not understand Ukrainian very-very often.

hi Tats!

I used this exact comparison to explain language differences between English speaking countries to my lady..

Posted by: andrei

A'ight back 2 the topic

Today's morning it was -42C, when I went out I couldnt inhale air for sum secs)))))

And in the evening when I was going home from work it was -38 and it felt SO WARM!!! I even unzipped my coat!

Posted by: Jutman

Hi

here in Denmark, we are not very happy with this sibirian preasure, even its not hit us directly, but instead give a lot of snow. But we have experience -12 at nigth and thats cold.

The temperatue -12 itself is not that muchh, but there is a difference between inland Russia and ocean surrounded Denmark. The moist make it feel a lot colder.

B-t-w this preasure from siberia got a name 'Claus'.

Posted by: mistermopar

Hi Jutman,I don't like the moist,damp cold,it gos right through you,I would rather have -40C dry cold than -12C damp cold.Not even vodka will help you in the damp cold.

Randy

Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermopar

Hi Jutman,I don't like the moist,damp cold,it gos right through you,I would rather have -40C dry cold than -12C damp cold.Not even vodka will help you in the damp cold.

Randy

Yes I agree Randy, damp cold does feel a lot worse. Iryna agreed that was why she was so cold here at Christmas because it was a much damper type of cold then what she is used to.

Chris

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

For many people damp cold is hell on arthritis. As for me cold is just hell. Give me warm sun anyday so I can wear my shorts and t-shirt, trry that in a siberian winter.

Posted by: bobjf

oz i didddd inside lol

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobjf

oz i didddd inside lol

ha ha ha, Bob my 2 R's in trry were a spelling mistake but I think the Siberian cold has affected you permanently.

Good you come back to bright sunny Aussie land hey.

Posted by: mistermopar

OK,really strange.Today is +5C and they are calling for rain.Hey this is Northren Ontario,we never get this kind of weather in January.
But I like it.

Randy

Posted by: bobjf

yer mate funny ha ha.
oz when you return after you go ? you will appreciate everything oz beleive me including our mild winters lol.
strangly enough cold didn,t realy bother me over there but did have the right gear.
nats doctor mate trudged through the snow in the early hours once when i woke up with server shakes,wasn,t impressed when i wouldn,t let her stab me lol.

Posted by: vic2012

[FONT=VerdanaHi Andrei,

If you're still monitoring this thread, just to say I got to experience your pure Siberian hell!! (see vic2012, page 4 this thread).
I arrived in Omsk on Saturday 4th Feb (a day late, thanks to a Russian visa problem in London). By Monday it was 15 degrees warmer than in Moscow at a lovely -10. My girl friend and I went shopping all day. I didn't even wear a hat! Came back to London yesterday - Great weekend! What was all the fuss about?

p.s changed flights in Moscow and flew with S7, Siberian Airways on a Boeing 737 to Omsk and back. Very nice flights.

p.p.s Omsk airport could do with a bit of TLC.
[/FONT]

Posted by: andrei

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic2012

You should have arrived a couple weeks earlier. Then you would know what was all the fuss about. -5 in Feb and -42 in Jan were OBVIOUSLY not the same.

Posted by: martin3030

Where was it -56 at the same time?
I saw it on the news

Posted by: Chrismc

I was on the phone to the Ukraine last night and it was -25C I was told it would go to -30C during the night.

Posted by: martin3030

Brrrrrrrrrrrr

Nalivi.........................

Posted by: bobjf

we ring nats mum twice aweek on monday in barnaul it was oddly enough +4,today the same, early spring maybe
but well below zero during the night

Posted by: vic2012

FAO Andrei and others interested

When I posted my "I've experienced your pure Siberian hell" a few replies back. I didn't know what a WONDERFUL surprise I was going to get, just a week later.

If your're interested in finding out, have a look at the:
UK & Ireland marriage and relationship forum
see thread: "Marriage in Russia?"

p.s when I said "what was all the fuss about" I was joking!!
I'm coming to Omsk again in a couple of weeks, fancy a drink Andrei?

Posted by: andrei

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic2012

FAO Andrei and others interested

When I posted my "I've experienced your pure Siberian hell" a few replies back. I didn't know what a WONDERFUL surprise I was going to get last week.

If your're interested, have a look at the:
UK & Ireland marriage and relationship forum
thread: "Marriage in Russia?"

p.s when I said "what was all the fuss about" I was joking!!
I'm coming to Omsk again in a couple of weeks, fancy a drink Andrei?

4 sure!!!

u can call me 89136119525 any day after 7pm

getcha azz over here quick!

Posted by: vic2012

I'll be in touch as soon as I've sorted out my dates. (probably the weekend of 11/12 march).

Posted by: vic2012

Wow, the weather certainly changes suddenly in Siberia.

I've been twice this year and it was bloody COLD. In fact right up till last Sunday its been cold. The temperature had been around -2C for most of the previous week. Then, this last week, it got a bit warmer averaging +6C (43F).

Today in Omsk, it was +7C (45F) but tomorrow.... it will be 70F

Is it really, just a few short weeks ago that, I was reading:

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Right now it's even colder than when I started this thread - about -36C. So be prepared to SEE your breath and HEAR your eyes blink.

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-34C = F---ing COLD!!!

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As for the conversion:
-34 degree Celsius = -29.2 degree Fahrenheit
Now thats friggin cold!!!!!!

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I swear I could feel my saliva crisp in my mouth)))
They're forecasting -40C tomorrow..OMG

AMAZING!!!!!!

I'm going back in a couple of weeks, so I'll keep you all posted.

Posted by: vic2012

It actually got up to 73F today.

Before I ever started to look to FSU for a partner, I knew of Siberia, only by reputation. Cold, cold and very cold

Posted by: andrei

In two weeks we can have like +30C. And it's not maximum.)))

Posted by: JamesB

Hi,i just got back from Berdsk in Siberia and it was not too cold at all.It was +9 yesterday.I actually just wore a jacket and shirt when we went out in the evening.

Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesB

Hi,i just got back from Berdsk in Siberia and it was not too cold at all.It was +9 yesterday.I actually just wore a jacket and shirt when we went out in the evening.

What!No pants.....LOL

Randy

Posted by: bobjf

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesB

Hi,i just got back from Berdsk in Siberia and it was not too cold at all.It was +9 yesterday.I actually just wore a jacket and shirt when we went out in the evening.

hi james you were lucky.
hope everything went ok for you guys
did you get the old bloke to try the jd
cheers

Posted by: JamesB

Hi,well first he opened the vodka and i was surprised how easy it went down.We went bowling in a two lane bowling alley and i kept falling asleep.I think it was jetlag.lolHe tried Jd and seemed to enjoy it though he did make a strange face after each drink.It was a great trip and i have no doubts about content.Its out in july and called Diary of a love story.The other guy from usa struck out apparently because he was interviewing the girls rather than chatting.One girl stung him for a $200 Mobile after 20 mins as it was her birthday.