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Men Married to FSW Women Question about SEX!

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Posted by: Icehockey

Hello Men

I have a question about FSW women and AW women. Everyone I talk to says their wife does not want to have sex. It is pretty much accepted that many AW women fall into this after a few years of marriage. And I was one!

We want to make love, and they like to hold it over our heads. Am I right? Not all but I think most do. You know the kidding at the bars and etc, we always hear that, and be honest, I think most are like that.

What are FSW women like after a couple years. Are they still passionate, romantic, sensual? Guys let me know!

I dont want to hear from guys that their AW wife is great, good for you. We are here looking for FSW women, because we know thay are different.

Please let me know!



Posted by: Keith In Kodiak

I don't think there is going to be any difference. Sex is a personal thing with people, it's not a cultural thing.

If your last relationship went bad sexually it was an issue with her personally, or more likely with with the relationship in general since it started out good.
You have to remember that women aren't wired like men. Women lean more towards sex as an emotional experience rather than a recreational one.
Russian women (or Chinese, Latina, Zambian women) aren't any different than American women in that regard.

If you give her the loving sex she craves, she'll pay you back with all the cowboy sex (or Cossack sex in this case) you can handle.

Just my two cents...



Posted by: Texas Proud

Keith,

I do think it is different in various countries... as some of the UK people know the 'birds' are a bit different than her in the states..

And the French are definately different...

And from what I have read about the Brazillians... Wow....

But, this is recreational sex and not in a relationship... maybe that is more of the same...

Texas...



Posted by: Keith In Kodiak

We're probably talking apples and watermelons here. Sure, the Brazilian beach bimbo is probably going to jump in the sack quicker, and give you a better time initially than a Catholic school teacher from East Podunk.

But we're talking about relationship sex. Once that East Podunk school teacher gets warmed up and secure with a man, she may be more than he can handle. And if he's smart enough and sensitive enough to fulfill her emotional/sexual needs, she'll always be ready to fulfill whatever needs he has.
And... in that way, she's no different than the hot Brazilian chick. Once the girl from Ipanema gets hooked up in a relationship she has the same needs as that school teacher.



Posted by: yodaamnot

Relationship is all about nuturing, these days we are driven by work and keeping up with the Jones. There is lack of balance in work and life and it's no wonder that both partners are tired by the end of the working day and the most sexual thing to do is sleep.

Having said that Keith may be right and the school teachers' needs are no different to the Brazilian or any other females for the matter.





Posted by: Icehockey

Guys, I am asking your opinion of your marriage to a FSW.

Not what you think is right.
If you are married to a FSW, how does she compare to an AW.



Posted by: Keith In Kodiak

I am not married to her yet, but I have a relationship with a Russian woman. She's just like any woman. She's not repressed in any way, but she's not some crazy sex-mad creature either.
Like any woman, some things are held back until a certain trust barrier has been passed.

Over the years I've dated a number of women of different ethnic backgrounds. Several English girls, a German girl, Latina girls, several Korean girls, a girl from Belize and probably some others that don't spring to mind right now - and of course lots of American girls of different ethnic backgrounds.

There's no real difference in sex attitudes. Or at least none that are cultural. Woman are individuals and will be different in their own way, and halleluya for that!

If you are looking for a Russian woman because you think you'll find some sort of sex toy, you'll be disappointed.

One thing I did notice (and was pleasantly surprised) was that Russian woman have a much higher standard of hygiene than Western European women. And I say that because my experience with W. European women was that they are fairly indifferent about this.

Russian women wash their hair every day, shower a couple of times a day (in summer when it's hot..), brush their teeth after meals, etc. And you know... that counts in bed for a number of reasons. A very clean person is much more sexually attractive than a not so clean person.

That's my experience, take it or leave it.



Posted by: gino

women are women some run a little hotter some colder. married to a Russian woman and have an ex in the u.s. I fail to see any difference in the two. Of course when you first start out in a new relationship it's going to be hot and heavy for the 1st year or 2 than after you both cut back. But you never stop having sex. sure guys complain about not having enough sex after marriage. But there basing everything on that 1st year in the relationship. In both my marriages i was never refused sex unless she had the flue or something of that nature. Just keep it new and try different things (that's the secret) My god i sound like doctor Ruth. Gino



Posted by: bryceherron

Hey Ice Hockey

I totally understand your frustrations, in wanting a simple answer instead of a righteous opinion. Sadly to say, I dont think your getting one... again... political correctness always seems to get in the way of having a real conversation.

My opinion is that... RUSSIAN women are much more giving in bed than Americain women. And I believe over the long haul, they know what it takes to keep a man happy, and prevent him from straying off. Afterall, they say a Russian woman keeps the familly together, in all ways! And this of course has alot to do with their traditional values, that Americain females, in their pursuit of equality, just aren't being taught .

As a further indication that Russian women will give you much more sex than Westerners would, , I took my theory into another "TRADITIONL" culture and examined their similarities.

This other traditional culture that I am talking about are nonetheless the Inuits of Northern Canada (100 years behind our culture in terms of values). I am a pilot in the North and I live amongst this society. To say the least, it rivals Russian society in the sense that it is still very traditional and uneffected by Western Feminism.

One thing you will see with Inuit women (Some of them were even girl friends of mine at one time), is that their priority in a marriage after raising children, is to give their man sex as often as he wants it. It was even preeched to do this in an Inuit wedding I once attended. The pastor (Inuit) said there were 5 things that a man needs from his wife. Number one was SEX.

I believe that these Traditional societies (Including Russia) focus more on the needs of their husbands more so than Western Societies.

To conclude, I feel that my "needs" will continously be met by my Russian wife throughout our marriage. I am sure there will be some down times here and there, but I think the effort to please me will be much more prevelant than you would find from a Canadian or Americain wife. And I use these similar behaviours from other traditional societies (Like the Norhern Canadian Inuit) to justify this.



Posted by: myshka

"My opinion is that... RUSSIAN women are much more giving in bed than Americain women. And I believe over the long haul, they know what it takes to keep a man happy, and prevent him from straying off. Afterall, they say a Russian woman keeps the familly together, in all ways! And this of course has alot to do with their traditional values, that Americain females, in their pursuit of equality, just aren't being taught ."
quoted from previous posting:

Ok, am I the only one here who sees a contradiction with 80% of the postings on this board? Lets see, on one hand we have all the postings that say a Russian man is a drunk and a philanderer and no good in general, then we have the postings who say as this poster that "Russian woman are the woman who know what it takes to keep a man happy and prevent him from straying off" (direct quote) So who are the Russian men married to who stray all the time? Foreigners? Oh no, its those Russian women who are so "giving in bed" unlike the American females. (quoted without spelling errors)
Traditional values, hmmm... Bryce I think your knowledge of "real" Russian women comes from marriage agencies websites, not from any "hands on" shall we say, knowledge!



Posted by: BradIL

Well myshka... you offer criticisms but provide no insights yourself.

So? What about it?

Are there cultural differences in a woman's view of sex in a relationship between Russians and Americans?

Russians in dysfunctional marriages? Oh no, that couldn't happen in Russia. Shto vi! Come on, please!!!



Posted by: Hostile_hostage

Two words "Chemistry" "Communication"
Shouldn't matter where in the world you were born or who you have a physical relationship with.



Posted by: inlove

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryceherron
Hey Ice Hockey

I totally understand your frustrations, in wanting a simple answer instead of a righteous opinion. Sadly to say, I dont think your getting one... again... political correctness always seems to get in the way of having a real conversation.

My opinion is that... RUSSIAN women are much more giving in bed than Americain women. And I believe over the long haul, they know what it takes to keep a man happy, and prevent him from straying off. Afterall, they say a Russian woman keeps the familly together, in all ways! And this of course has alot to do with their traditional values, that Americain females, in their pursuit of equality, just aren't being taught .

As a further indication that Russian women will give you much more sex than Westerners would, , I took my theory into another "TRADITIONL" culture and examined their similarities.

This other traditional culture that I am talking about are nonetheless the Inuits of Northern Canada (100 years behind our culture in terms of values). I am a pilot in the North and I live amongst this society. To say the least, it rivals Russian society in the sense that it is still very traditional and uneffected by Western Feminism.

One thing you will see with Inuit women (Some of them were even girl friends of mine at one time), is that their priority in a marriage after raising children, is to give their man sex as often as he wants it. It was even preeched to do this in an Inuit wedding I once attended. The pastor (Inuit) said there were 5 things that a man needs from his wife. Number one was SEX.

I believe that these Traditional societies (Including Russia) focus more on the needs of their husbands more so than Western Societies.

To conclude, I feel that my "needs" will continously be met by my Russian wife throughout our marriage. I am sure there will be some down times here and there, but I think the effort to please me will be much more prevelant than you would find from a Canadian or Americain wife. And I use these similar behaviours from other traditional societies (Like the Norhern Canadian Inuit) to justify this.


It puzzles me when people aggressively express their opinions and theories about something without an actual practical knowledge of things, or at least communicating with somebody who does.... You think that russians are 100 years behind in their culture when it comes to relationships? Well.. you are in for a discovery of your life time. Assuming, you get the chance to test your theory in practice.



Posted by: Jim_FL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Icehockey
I have a question about FSW women and AW women......
What are FSW women like after a couple years. Are they still passionate, romantic, sensual? Guys let me know!


I've been married a little over 2 years now and I'll say this:
Desire (on her part) has not diminished yet,

BUT

To start with, it was not noticably different than any AW I had previously been in a long term relationship with.



Posted by: bryceherron

OK MYSHKA and INLOVE.

I dont know how it was interpreted that I have no practical experience therefore I should put a sock in my mouth??? But like I said neer the end of my original thread, I AM married to a Russian girl whom I met in Russia, so... I do have hands on experience with what I am saying.

And to think that.. desire and passion is a matter of the indiviual... not the culture??? You are sadly mistaken!!!

Tribes in South America eat people! Men in Saudi Arabia often have 4 wives! Americains smile much more than Europeans do. If you haven't noticed... than your blind. AND YES... Russian women are more giving in bed. Its just the way it is.

But hey.. its just an opininon, you dont have to agree with it. It would be nice if you had one for a change.



Posted by: Icehockey

Thanks Bryce. You hit the nail on the head. You are speaking from experience and thats what I am looking for!!!

We all agree women are women, but after the first year or child, with most NA women the flame goes out. And all I wanted to know was that the same with FSW women?

You answered my question. They seem to still have that flame and desire to keep the man happy. Now if the man fools around on her, of course she will leave him. I think thats what happaens alot with the FSW.

Anyone else have any 'first hand experience' with this?



Posted by: sidney

The passion hasn't gone out after a child and five years of marriage to a UW. I never was married to an AW or in a relationship this long so I may not be the best litmus test.
Sid



Posted by: Texas Proud

I still am amazed how people can group a countries gender as if there is 'one' way.... people here keep saying how AW lose interest after being married for awhile... having a kid etc. etc....

Well, I know of one woman who got a divorce because her HUSBAND was the one who lost interest.. they had two children.. she was in her early to mid 30s and got her libido going in overdrive... she wanted sex everyday and he was thinking once or twice a months was good enough.... so, divorce...

You see on some of the daily TV shows about MEN who do not want to do it.. and the WIFE wants to know how to spice things up....

Now, I have not been married so I will leave it to you married people who had a bad experience to keep saying bad things... but could it be that the wife was not interested in staying with you and maybe wanted a divorce???

Maybe the desire for women is like the desire for men... many many levels...

Just me thinking....



Posted by: inlove

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Proud
I still am amazed how people can group a countries gender as if there is 'one' way.... people here keep saying how AW lose interest after being married for awhile... having a kid etc. etc....

Well, I know of one woman who got a divorce because her HUSBAND was the one who lost interest.. they had two children.. she was in her early to mid 30s and got her libido going in overdrive... she wanted sex everyday and he was thinking once or twice a months was good enough.... so, divorce...

You see on some of the daily TV shows about MEN who do not want to do it.. and the WIFE wants to know how to spice things up....

Now, I have not been married so I will leave it to you married people who had a bad experience to keep saying bad things... but could it be that the wife was not interested in staying with you and maybe wanted a divorce???

Maybe the desire for women is like the desire for men... many many levels...

Just me thinking....


Texas,
i agree with you. To take this topic even further, "diminished" sex drive is often a problem caused by other things in a relationship, not necessarily of biological origin .



Posted by: inlove

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryceherron
OK MYSHKA and INLOVE.

I dont know how it was interpreted that I have no practical experience therefore I should put a sock in my mouth??? But like I said neer the end of my original thread, I AM married to a Russian girl whom I met in Russia, so... I do have hands on experience with what I am saying.


I'm surprised that you, being married to a russian woman, assume that a main purpose of all russian women, besides taking care of children, is to service their husbands in bed. Maybe, your wife sees it as her main purpose in life, but please don't extend it to the rest of us.

Quote:
And to think that.. desire and passion is a matter of the indiviual... not the culture??? You are sadly mistaken!!!

Tribes in South America eat people! Men in Saudi Arabia often have 4 wives! Americains smile much more than Europeans do. If you haven't noticed... than your blind. AND YES... Russian women are more giving in bed. Its just the way it is.

But hey.. its just an opininon, you dont have to agree with it. It would be nice if you had one for a change.


Desire and passion are most and foremost matter of the individual, not the national culture. There are passionate and cold people in every culture. The manifistation of desire and passion could be dictated by the surrounding culture, but to a very limited extend.

P.S. What people eating tribes have to do with sexuality of russian women? Or you decided to throw everything in one pot?



Posted by: bryceherron

Hey IN LOVE...

You can't classify behaviours according to regions and geography? Common MAN!!! WAKE UP!!!

Latino's aren't the greatest dancers in the world? Italians aren't the most passionate when they speak???? I mean hey... their are always exceptions.... but common... open your eyes! I'm sure you are well travelled... do you not notice these cultural differences when you go from one country to the other?

Anglo saxons (like myself).... are considered dull and serious. I dont believe I am any of these things, but when I observe my friends and my environment, I do agree with a generalization, that a large portion of anglos, ARE more dull and boring.

I think their would be a better chance for an Italian or a Latino to get up on the table and dance at a wedding, more so than an anglo white guy! And if there were 100 weddings going on... 50 white, and 50 spanish... I would be more than willing to place my bets that more of these spaninsh weddings would be 100 times more lively than the white ones.

HELL.. even FRENCH people here in Quebec refer to the english as (LES TETES QUAREES) "SQUARE HEADS"... I dont think that's a coincidence. Their must be some substance behind this. English people lack way more passion than do the French.

Anyways, these are strange analagies I am using to make my point, I know. But this all to say, that different cultures do behave differently. And you can categorize them into having some obvious similarities. I know that it will never be 100% the case for everyone. But there are some traits within a culture that are more obvious than others.

And yes... Russian women do Love sex alot more it seems. My wife who again.. is Russian herself... tells me this as well. Even when I asked. She said... FOR SURE!!!



Posted by: Jim_FL

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryceherron
And yes... Russian women do Love sex alot more it seems. My wife who again.. is Russian herself... tells me this as well. Even when I asked. She said... FOR SURE!!!

Wow! good thing your wife fits your stereotype!



Posted by: inlove

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryceherron
And yes... Russian women do Love sex alot more it seems. My wife who again.. is Russian herself... tells me this as well. Even when I asked. She said... FOR SURE!!!


There were some posters in the past that had a complete different experience from yours. They did not go as far, though, as to proclaim that all russian women are less than marginal in bed. Good that you met a very sexual woman, or we would have became a nation of frigit chicks.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by bryceherron
And yes... Russian women do Love sex alot more it seems. My wife who again.. is Russian herself... tells me this as well. Even when I asked. She said... FOR SURE!!!


Not to get in to too personal of a subject matter...
And to make sure you wife is a good authority on the subject how many women has your wife slept with? :-)



Posted by: bryceherron

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Not to get in to too personal of a subject matter...
And to make sure you wife is a good authority on the subject how many women has your wife slept with? :-)


WOW.... EASYTARGET... where getting into some pretty heavy Vietnam Gook territory there!!!.. LOL... I would Love to answer you .. but man.. I think my wife would freek out if ever she saw my response on this sight... which Im sure she will one day...

But hey... I appreciate the question.. if ever we meet at an airport, Ill buy you a beer in the lounge and Ill gladly tell you all about it! LOL



Posted by: CheyennePress

Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Proud
Keith,

I do think it is different in various countries... as some of the UK people know the 'birds' are a bit different than her in the states..

And the French are definately different...

And from what I have read about the Brazillians... Wow....

But, this is recreational sex and not in a relationship... maybe that is more of the same...

Texas...


Ha! Yep, the French are definitely different. Despite the reknown of amour, French married couples are less satisfied with their sex lives than Americans. Actually Americans are more satisfied than almost all of Europe, interestingly enough. Brazilians were most satisifed. Asian countries tended to be the least. Kind of interesting stuff. I'll see if I can find that survey again.

Also saw that Republicans were more satisfied with their sex lives than Democrats. Maybe there is something to a more traditional culture?

I don't think Russia was listed. I'd be curious.



Posted by: Sammy&Sasha

To whom it may concern:

I hate when I return from my adventure to Ukraine and all my friends say is "did you seal the deal". Shallow minded fools. I did not sleep with my woman and I can tell you she would not be pleased about me talking about this because that is something she told me that should only be discussed between a man and a woman, not among friends.

For your information,Lucky I know my woman won't leave me A Ukraine woman will say something to you like I want to have your children. You tell an American woman you want her genetics and she thinks your a weirdo. I tell my special woman I think our bloodlines are great for each other and she loves me for it.

A Ukraine woman will tell you its her job to have little boys for you to continue the family name. A Ukraine woman would tell you its her job to please you in the bedroom. I was talking with my woman over dinner and thought how wonderful to hear this. I think I have something really special here like I read in one post "I won the Lottery". Nothing in America comes close to a Ukraine woman. Let the sex come naturally....focus on whats in her head and in her heart.......that is key to finding best sex.

I love how Ukraine woman let you know when you should kiss them. I am crazy in love ok but heres why I know it will work. With my most special Ukraine woman, I have a woman I love so much I would do anything to please here not because I am told to do so because my heart make me do this.

You will find that especially a Ukraine woman will put much more love into your love bank account, the same as you do. You show her for one, by traveling to see her you are willing to die for her. She knows I would fight the whole Russian army and kill King Kong for her.

I for one being raised to fear the Soviet Union feel special pride in going to Ukraine all alone and making my dream come true. If you need to be a tough man you can always find the Vodka Somewhere. When I walked home the streets of Odecca I was bullet proof and ten feet tall because of Nemiroff Vodka I was not treated the best by Ukraine men but I would walk through any AK-74 held by some Ukraine officer to be with my woman.

You profess your love from your travel and show your love to your woman in your writing With Ukraine woman it is natural instinct to treat her like the special queen she is and she does same because a Ukraine/Russian woman have great respect for love and family. An american woman after you tell her how much she means to you will take a point away from you and use it as power over you. A Ukraine woman will be so happy to hear you say such wonderful things and truly respects your love.

There is a big difference between American and RUssian here boyz!! I am so glad I waited to marry and not like all my friends!! A Ukraine woman is so wonderful the sex keeps a comming because you keep a treating her so very special because you have to because a Russian woman gets a grip on your heart somehow A ukraine woman can get your heart without you knowing it. You wil not be afraid of her grip on your heart because she sees your heart as a precious tender love and she rspects it I love Sasha!!

Anyone who reads this listen to me....The worlds most beautiful and most special woman are Downtown Odecca, Ukraine on Deribosovskaya street. Take a walk anytime of the day there and you will not believe your eyes how many super model like woman are there. David Lee Roth forgot to mention Ukraine woman when he sang about California Girls Anyone who who has walked the streets of downtown Odessa knows this is true. Its so sad my own friends don't believe me

Spend the money go to Ukraine and thank Sammy for telling you to do so with what it is worth say 1,000,000 USD. Happy Grevna's boyz and happy hunting. My rifle is in the closet, I got the best all you guys are playing for second!!

God Bless the Ukraine!!!I hope I help someone..... I know I got of subject here.



Posted by: Samurai_Bob

Very nice story Sammy&Sasha.
I wish you would have made paragraph breaks for the readers however.
You can go back and edit this, and make breaks. Your readers will appreciate it.

Actually most men here already have someone too.

Welcome to the RMP.





Posted by: yodaamnot

Hi Sammy&Sasha,

Perhaps you would like to share your journey in meeting your Sasha. Your experience would greatly add to the knowledge and experince on this site.





Posted by: Sammy&Sasha

On march 28,2003 at the advice of a friend I wrote a woman on www.pretty-russian-women.com a free site and to my surprise on April 3, 2003 I heard from my Sasha. It was easy to see in her writing I was getting invloved with a higher life form. A very smart woman. I felt a connection from the start and my heart was pounding big time. She would write every two weeks and would describe herself. I knew she had two degrees and one degree was in Psychology. This woman is very smart and knows how to find out about me just in writing.

I am very trusting man and I figure I would shoot straight all times and then when and if we ever got married I would not have to hide anything because I told the truth from the start. It was strange because she would tell me it her true feelings to want to be with me. I have never seen anything like her in my life. The woman I would have God make for me ok. I could not do a better job physically. I was crazy in love from first sight and honestly I did not think she would ever write me back. She was just too beautiful.

I had weird things happen to me all the time like I knew she loved the beetles Music and many times when I would think about her a beetles song would come on the radio. I could see we thought about same things in relationship.

Well one day I did a search for her name on google and it turns out she was on Jims Black List. I asked Jim' List what was the scoop and he told me she was with the Russian Mafia! I felt terrible. So I asked Sash about it and she told me a man wrote her dirty sex letter and she asked him to stop and when he didn't he told her she would remember him for the rest of her life.

Her dad passed early in our writing and her mom had bad health with heart and she had so much responsibility for her mom I ask to help her financially. I am not rich man so when I gave her money it hurts me big time. She only ask me one time for help with financial matters and her mom needed 500 USD for medicine therapy for her heart. I said I would pay half and all I could think about was Sammy you idiot you can't be sure she is true. I also should say to you readers I asked her to marry me before I knew her last name. Well I figure I love her and I can't have her mom die for a lousy 250 bucks. This put me back financialy as I was trying to save to see her. I would write her everyday.


Thank God she waited because I wrote her for almost three years. She would write about respect and how she values our love. I could not believe the words this woman wrote. I felt same and it was easy to see the foundation blocks for a strong relationship. My parents and Grandparents had great love. I sent money every month to help her only because of one letter she wrote me. She wrote a letter about her mother and father and I was convinced no scammer could possibly be that good and what I was reading came straight from her heart. Last December 05 I decided I would risk everything I own to go see this girl the rational is if I do not go I will hate myself the rest of my life.

I took out a loan and said lets go get her. We have always had communication problems, it is not easy for her to write letters like I can from my home. She told me she would meet me in Odecca Airport and not to worry about anything. Well that is easy for her to say,I did not know for sure if I had a place to stay when I arrived plus my woman was on the Blacklist so you can imagine how mixed my feelings were. I stepped onto a Austrian Airlines plane and knew I had only me,myself and I from this point forward. I was scared as hell.

After Ukraine Customs I was surprised and my Sasha gave me a very warm welcome with a nice kiss and when she talked to me first time I knew I might be ok through this ordeal. It was bitter cold in January this year. She took me to my aprtment and told me she was a traditional Ukraine woman and I knew she meant like I hope you are not here just for sex. Traditional Ukraine woman does not dress the same as other Ukraine woman. She take me to my apartment and we walk from Torogavya street along the Black Sea to Fat Moses restuarant in downtown Odecca. We had a drink and had the most spectacular dinner. She eats much faster than I do, but I just sat across from her and listened to her words. She told me her role in our family and I was so impressed just listening to her looking her right in the face. It was wonderful magical time. BY the end of the fourth night it was easy to see my best friend across from me. I did not get on one knee and ask her to marry me. I gave her some earings that I brought from America and the next thing I know she says we are engaged. I was like thats fine with me.

Somehow we both just know we are to be married. Its about time a awesome most beautiful Ukraine woman would say we are to be married. Guys a super hot chick with no attitude. The good Ukraine women are full of love and respect. I can't believe it still. I can tell she feels different and her letters are different to me as well. It is big thing for Ukraine woman to be engaged.

Now I have a reason to kick butt in everythiung and a very positive motivational force in my life. Any man who is thinking about marrying a Russian woman I would say you are on the right track! Don't listen to all the shallow minded people from the states. My friends hardly say congratulations, they say stuff like she just wants to be in the states. My guest list for my wedding just keeps getting shorter and shorter. I know better than anyone for I have been ther myself!! If your looking for the best love,your looking in the right spot boyz!! Good luck!!



Posted by: Chrismc

Nice story Sammy....let hope it all works out you certainly took a few high risks, please can you use paragraphs though as SB suggested it is a lot harder to read for everyone the way you have it typed up.

Thanks
Chris



Posted by: searcher

I may fix that.

I edited both of his post. I didn't edit the spelling, etc I only put spaces between some paragraphs while trying to keep the ideas and structure intact.



Posted by: Sammy&Sasha

I have to talk more about my Sasha here. Sorry about the readability ok. I actually talked about Russian Politics with Sasha and she had nice way of describing to me what she thought was wrong with her country. Her parents went through the great depression and actually I think had to eat dirt. Her mom is 62 and Sasha is 28 and I am 36.Way to old for her but she is great woman.

Do not worry about Jim's black list fellas. Use your head and heart and you will be fine,you should know by what she says to you if she is real. Good people are good people no matter where you go and its impossible to try and be good when you are a bad person.Men that are 60-70's over there did thier best to tell me about Odessa.I could not speak a stitch but I understood everything.I would also recommend getting a Ruska hat right away if you can wear it without laughing to much!!To all men:Take your fear and replace it with knowledge and you will be on the adventure of a lifetime!!When you talk to her tell her something like"yellow blue buss" I hope it means I love you!! Don't listen to anyone except your heart.It never lies to youand will always steer you in correct direction!!



Posted by: yodaamnot

Hi Sammy,

Thanks for sharing your experience, please continue to post your journey together. There was a new post a few days ago, from a new member who unfortunately did not turn out for the best.

Hopefully he will post his experince for all to read.

Once again congratulations.





Posted by: searcher

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy&Sasha
When you talk to her tell her something like"yellow blue buss" I hope it means I love you!!

Don't listen to anyone except your heart.

It never lies to you and will always steer you in correct direction!!


"Я тебя люблю (I love you, literally - 'I you love')" phonetically it sounds like "Yah teb-yah lube-lew".

If you want to say "I love you very much (Я очень люблю тебя)", it would phonetically sound like "Yah ocean lube-lew teb-yah"



Posted by: Sammy&Sasha

Searcher, Thank you for the information. I told her that anyway because some russian man explain it to me like that in Odecca. Good thing I know English or should I say good thing she speaks better English than I do
Yoda, you bet I keep people informed and I can't wait when I send the new bride here and have her talk with your woman. I got back February 8th 2006 and just mailed the I-129F form out which they say is only 90 days away at this time.We will see I have all kinds of doubt but if I have to I can go right to the state office and get things rolling. Lucky I live in central states so I am thinking USCIS people wwill be more helpful to me than in a big huge city.Just taking care of her mom and getting ready for my good friend to come with meI have tons to say about Ukraine!!My friends are tired of hearing about it.My goal is to help one American man help himself to being a very happy man like all us men who love them Ruskas are!! Nothing compares to a Russian woman ok.My woman will come straighten up all the women in my townShow them what it is all about!! I can't wait for that tooGod bless Ukraine babes and Russian Babes!! oh, and American babes too



Posted by: SeekingForThe1

This is a question that always comes up when I man is in persuit of any woman. I had similar thoughts, but after reading these messages, I beleive that I founds my answers.

I also have had experience with woman from different countries and I also agree that there are differences in culture and the way society has a woman think about sex inside thier cultural enviroments.

There diffenetly are differences in the attitude on how a woman responds to a man. We all know that to be true!!

I have had been married to a couple of times and have had a couple of long relationships. I will only speak about my experiences and I hope not to get anyone upset with me for I have read every thread on this topic that is posted here and noticed some attitudes back and forth.

The different woman that I have had relationships with, have lead me to beleive that relationships with European woman have been very good when it comes to sexual desires of a man like myself. They have been more open to expressing what makes them sexual satisfied and more willing to pleasure thier man. American woman that I have been with have been more reserve in expressing thier desires. I also know that it's important for women to emmotional connect with her partner and for me it is also important, but not always neccesary. To reach true potential with your partner thier must be a certain amount of trust and mutual respect that will lead to a very healthy sex life.

I have also not noticed any decrease in the woman I have been with after having a child. In my experience it has either stayed the same or even increased.

I hope this might help....

Corey J



Posted by: RobOhioGuy

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeekingForThe1
This is a question that always comes up when I man is in persuit of any woman. I had similar thoughts, but after reading these messages, I beleive that I founds my answers.

I also have had experience with woman from different countries and I also agree that there are differences in culture and the way society has a woman think about sex inside thier cultural enviroments.

There diffenetly are differences in the attitude on how a woman responds to a man. We all know that to be true!!

I have had been married to a couple of times and have had a couple of long relationships. I will only speak about my experiences and I hope not to get anyone upset with me for I have read every thread on this topic that is posted here and noticed some attitudes back and forth.

The different woman that I have had relationships with, have lead me to beleive that relationships with European woman have been very good when it comes to sexual desires of a man like myself. They have been more open to expressing what makes them sexual satisfied and more willing to pleasure thier man. American woman that I have been with have been more reserve in expressing thier desires. I also know that it's important for women to emmotional connect with her partner and for me it is also important, but not always neccesary. To reach true potential with your partner thier must be a certain amount of trust and mutual respect that will lead to a very healthy sex life.

I have also not noticed any decrease in the woman I have been with after having a child. In my experience it has either stayed the same or even increased.

I hope this might help....

Corey J



Behavior is ALWAYS shaped and constrained by social norms that are CULTURAL SPECIFIC.

Sex is a behavior and to say that "all women are the same" is flat out incorrect. A culture defines what is appropriate and "normal" behavior of that there is absolutely no argument. If you think otherwise you are choosing to dwell in ignorance.

While there is individuality with regards to the libido this drive has absolutely NOTHING to do with the attitude a man or woman has towards sex. That is shaped entirely by CULTURAL NORMS.

In this regard there are significant differences between eastern European and western women. If you think differently, I have to wonder what you are smoking.



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