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G. C. what is it

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Posted by: Keith

Sean:

GC = "Green Card"?

Keith



Posted by: ConnerVT

GC is an abbreviation for "Green Card", which is named that for the green color of a U.S. Resident Alien Identification Card.

In the US, after you marry, your wife will file an AOS (Adjustment of Status) and will be issued a card reflecting her Temporary Resident Alien status.

After two years, you refile again, and then she can then lose the 'Temporary', and become a Permanent Resident Alien.

(How did I do, Jim? )

Of course, you should be worried about GCG, which is an abbreviation for "Green Card Girl", who is a woman who marries you for long enough to get her permanent status, then leaves you.



Posted by: ConnerVT

Sean -- thanks for putting your location in your profile. This is an International forum, so it is difficult to guess just how to answer your question.

Can she take you car, your house, and your bankbook? Why yes, you silly man. Divorce courts throughout the U.S. have been doing that for years. Divorcing a resident alien is no different than divorcing a U.S. citizen. They both have equal standing here in U.S. jurisdiction.

There is also the issue of the I-864 Affidavit of Support, which you will fill out when you marry, and file your AOS. It basically holds you financially responsible if your wife (or ex-wife, if it goes that way) becomes a public charge and collects Gov't money (such as Welfare, or Gov't paid medical expenses). This is enforced until she either becomes a naturalized citizen, of completes 40 quarters (10 years) of work.

There has been much written in many places discussing this, by people who know the details much better than I.

My suggestion -- Marry the right woman!



Posted by: Jim_FL

Quote:
Originally posted by sean mcgann
yes,I figured that out for myself,but can she take my house, car,and bank book with her?


THAT is a Family Law question, not a BCIS question!

You are starting to venture into the realm of scams and scammers. On another board I frequent, there are a few guys who are absolutely terrified of the I-864 affidavit of support for the very reason you mention in your question. The I-864 is the only legal means for BCIS to take something from you for her benefit. In the very few cases where it's been tested (that I could find) it was usually another gov't agency seeking re-embursement for sevices rendered. BCIS in these cases would file a judjement against you. So they won't take your house away but it's probable that when you sell it, they'll take their cut off the top.

If I were you, I would be more concerned with her divorce attorney than BCIS as they can inflict FAR more damage on you financially, limited only by the Family laws of your state.



Posted by: Jim_FL

LOL, ya beat me to it Conner

Guess I should have finished my post before stepping outside for a few minutes



Posted by: Keith

Jim & Conner:

I think the two of you were twins in a former life...hmmm, maybe this one!

Keith



Posted by: Keith

Quote:
Originally posted by ConnerVT
There is also the issue of the I-864 Affidavit of Support, which you will fill out when you marry, and file your AOS. It basically holds you financially responsible if your wife (or ex-wife, if it goes that way) becomes a public charge and collects Gov't money (such as Welfare, or Gov't paid medical expenses). This is enforced until she either becomes a naturalized citizen, of completes 40 quarters (10 years) of work.


Certainly an incentive to pursue naturalization if one is a little uneasy about their choice of a spouse, huh? What's a reasonable amount for naturalization to happen? Do states tend to deny public assistance too?

Keith



Posted by: ConnerVT

The best advice if one is uneasy about there choice in a spouse is -- not to marry them.

IMHO, there is little to gain in pressuring your wife to become a naturalized U.S. citizen. If they decide that's what they want, fine. But there is little protection it affords to you. Civil divorce settlements still will do more damage to you financially. As a Resident Alien, your wife can work, be an income tax deduction, recieve benefits from the Gov't, take out loans and mortgages, pay taxes, most of those things a U.S. citizen can do (O.K., she can't be president, you have to be a natural born citizen. )

Insisting she do so cab be a source of strife in your marriage. If she's a GCG, she can drag her feet for two years, until she gets her permanent status. If she's a sincere woman, she most likely has no desire to become an American citizen. She is proud of her heratige and culture, and is here for her love of you, and desire to raise her family in a safe, secure place.

(Any of our women posters like to comment on this?)



Posted by: Keith

Quote:
Originally posted by ConnerVT
IMHO, there is little to gain in pressuring your wife to become a naturalized U.S. citizen. If they decide that's what they want, fine. But there is little protection it affords to you.

Insisting she do so cab be a source of strife in your marriage. If she's a sincere woman, she most likely has no desire to become an American citizen. She is proud of her heratige and culture, and is here for her love of you, and desire to raise her family in a safe, secure place.


Conner:

Fascinating. I would like to think I could by the time I'm allowed to determine someone's true intentions. I wonder how Russians who marry Americans and reside here view naturalization and how many do ultimately pursue naturalization. That would seem easy to track and determine. Isn't there a way to maintain dual citzenship in the naturalization process or does one have to renounce any other citizenship? I agree with you about insisting upon naturalization as that could be a tremendous source of stress in a marriage if the issue was pressed. I like your analysis of that issue and it well said! If I'm proud of my heritage and culture then why should I expect my wife to surrender hers if I'm a fair, balanced and respectful person? Thanks for your comments on these as this is the first time I've thought about this matter. I admit that my initial assumptions were otherwise. I think the term that I shockingly recall from my college days was that without realizing it I was being "ethnocentric" or thinking everyone should want to be a citizen of my country. Ah, the benefits of disucssion boards like this!

Keith



Posted by: Jim_FL

One of Liliya's first questions after we started to seriously discuss marriage was "I won't have to give up my Russian citizenship will I?"

If you think American patriotism is strong, prepare to be dazzled!



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