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American women and Ukrainian, Belarusian & Russian men (marriage & dating-- common?)
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Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Everyone,

I know that there have been American women who have visited and participated in the RMP forum who have been in relationship with Russian men, and also married to Russian, Ukrainian or Belarusian men.

I am wondering how common are American women - "Russian" men relationships?

In areas where there are large Russian populations (like New York or Los Angeles), I know that Russian men date Western women.

Does anyone personally know of any AW-RM relationships or marriages?

Obviously, relationships between American women and Russian men have less of a web presence or prominence than the popular American men - Russian woman phenomenon.

Feel free to share your examples of AW-RM relationships.

Khashyar

Posted by: myshka

Well, since I am an AW married to a RM, I will comment. I think there are actually as many or more marriages like mine than RW/AM, at least by what I have experienced in my life and on internet forums.
Forums are full of AM's who talk about marrying RW but how many of them do it?
AW who marry RM usually have not met them on forums, and in fact did not seek out RM just fell in love with a person who happened to be in Russia.
There are not many dating agencies for RM/AW!

Posted by: Khashyar

Hi myshka,

Thank you for your feedback and sharing your experience.

Khashyar

Posted by: lindochka

I'm an AW engaged to a Belarusian man. Since there's no "mail order bridegroom" industry, nor is there much press about us, it's hard to tell how common this particular phenomenon is. I'm personally acquainted with two A/FSU couples locally. One is AW/FSUM, the other is AM/FSUW.

I didn't meet my fiance online. We met in person while I was traveling in Belarus, and we were acquainted for a couple of years before we became a couple. Neither of us was looking in the other's part of the world for a partner -- neither of us was even looking for a partner when it happened!

Posted by: searcher

Quote:

Originally Posted by lindochka

I'm an AW engaged to a Belarusian man. Since there's no "mail order bridegroom" industry, nor is there much press about us, it's hard to tell how common this particular phenomenon is.

I keep telling myself I could make a fortune if i'd just open an AW/RM agency!

But alas, I often forget!

Seriously, we also have Jill an AW married to a UM. She is an hiatus because she is (or has already) due to give bitrh to their first child.

Posted by: lindochka

Actually, Searcher, there is such an agency, based in Ukraine, I think. (The men all seem to be from the Kherson region.) I don't know how they're doing, though. Somehow I can't picture women going on romance tours, but maybe I'm just an old-fashioned girl.

Posted by: searcher

Interesting!

All I need now is an interesting site name such as "groom.ru" or "Kherson Grooms" or even "Vladimir's Male Models"

I could have a section on my web site with the typical sales pitch, such as:

Quote:

"Are you tired of the 'dating scene'? Are you tired of men whose computers come before the relationship? Are you tired of being evaluated by your Tyts and Azz? Are you tired of "jumping through hoops" like a trained pet just for male companionship?

There are hundreds of thousands of single, available, highly educated, handsome men in the countries that used to be the Soviet Union. These men believe 'chivalry' comes before football and beer. They take pride in their appearance and their women.

These are NOT "Mail Order Grooms" You can not open a catalog and have one shipped to your house like a piece of furniture. This involves International correspondence and you have to 'win his heart' just as you would when dating a 'local man'."

YEAH!!!!! I think that will work!!!!!!!! I can set up thousands of lonely American women with Russian and Ukrainian men that are tired of the frequent complaints of their native women!

They'll teach them! They will flee the country in masses, leaving those women alone and wondering where did all of the men go????

MAN! I'M GOOD!

Just kidding! LOL

Posted by: searcher

Yike!

Where did everyone go??????
I hope I didn't scare everyone away with my jokes!

There should be a few women in this section - Vyesna, Mysha, Lindochka, Jill (when she returns), and some from England and Australia too.

Posted by: lindochka

No, you didn't scare anyone away, Searcher -- at least not me. And if your Russian is good enough, you'll find that some of the FSUW who post here would be very supportive of you seeking to connect AW with FSUM. You might even find yourself some investors for such a business!

On a more serious note, just out of curiosity I bookmarked the already existing site for further browsing, though at first glance I honestly didn't see anyone there who piqued my interest. There were several nice-looking men of varied ages and backgrounds there, but I'm sure a big part of it is that someone already has my heart.

Still, I couldn't get over the feeling that I was looking at some sort of catalog. I can't compare that kind of a first glance to my own first glance of my fiance, even though we met in purely social (not at all romantic) circumstances. But I'll never forget it any more than I could forget the first time we looked at each other "that way" a few years later.

Posted by: Kalexandra

Ok, I'll chime in..I'm not scared of your jokes Searcher

Besides us in this town where I live, there are two other couples AW-RM that I know of (and about 8 AM-RW couples that we personally know). Both AW-RM met while the AW was in Russia and just happened to fall in love. One was studying, the other was working. There is another couple we met yesterday with a man from Tajikistan and an AW. So, we're out there, although I don't know of any AW who found a FSUM because she was specifically looking for that type of man or relationship.

Posted by: searcher

Hi Kalexandra!

I hadn't seen you on the forum for a while.
Last I remember you were coming back to the states.

Typically, I guess most AW involved with FSU men met them by chance.

So maybe the agency idea isn't a bad idea after all!

It just the marketing and selling points that i'll have to work on, LOL.

That above quote was from taken from another web site. I just changed 'women' to 'men' and changed the nature of the 'good' and 'bad' qualities

But I think most women aren't gulliable enough to believe that

I suppose in reality, it wouldn't be a bad idea because who knows where you may find the person you fall in love with...... it would be just like any other dating site but catering to FSU men

Posted by: lindochka

Quote:

Typically, I guess most AW involved with FSU men met them by chance.

Actually, we prefer to think it was Fate rather than mere chance!

(Sorry, just got off the phone with You Know Who and I'm feeling a little

at the moment!)

Posted by: B82

I am and AW. I don't think that AW/RM relationships are as common as RW/AM relationships. I live in NY. My husband and I stand out because we are "obvious", so we stick out like a sore thumb. We always turn heads. It's also challenging to know of AW/RM relationships if both partners look the same.

Posted by: B82

I agree with myshka. I met my husband while working at the same place. It was definately something that happened out of the blue because neither one of us was looking for anybody. After talking to him, I just knew that he was going to be in my life for more than a summer. For some reason, we felt instantly connected to each other. It's really hard to describe. I remember a friend of mine telling me that when you find the person you are supposed to be with, you will know. I was skeptical about that until it happened. It is a very hard emotion to describe. I believe it was God because I prayed a long time for someone with his (my husband's) qualities and my prayers were answered waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before I thought they would be. It just so happened that those qualities came in the form of a handsome Russian man that doesn't drink or smoke, qualities that are very common among Russians in my area. I love him for who he is and not what he is.