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Elena Petrova's eBook: "How To Find And Marry A Girl Like Me" (comments, review)
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Posted by: yodaamnot

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I am not being funny, I was just wondering about the sex part. I've downloaded a copy of Elena's book a few months ago "How to Marry a girl like me" and there was a section on sex and how to approach the subject. I wonder if the American man read the book. Intimacy between two people should come naturally. I am not forming any judgement and the reality is that "Men use intimacy to have sex and women use sex to have intimacy". No doubt my posting might generate some debate and I welcome the debate.

Posted by: Khashyar

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Originally Posted by yodaamnot

I've downloaded a copy of Elena's book a few months ago "How to Marry a girl like me"

Perhaps we can discuss Elena's book in a seperate thread in the marriage agency section, but... how did the title of her ebook "How to Marry a Girl like me" strike you? Actually, I think it is better to begin a discussion about that in a new seperate thread.

I think that it's probably better to keep this thread on topic, as that discussion will take a while to discuss.

Khashyar

Posted by: yodaamnot

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Originally Posted by Khashyar

Perhaps we can discuss Elena's book in a seperate thread in the marriage agency section, but... how did the title of her ebook "How to Marry a Girl like me" strike you?

Khashyar

Too many she is an attractive woman and no doubt she is down to earth, I've read some postings on RMP from members who are not so complementary about her and I guess her latest adventure along the lines of "The Bachelor" where they have secured filming rights with a company in Bulgaria and named the tv reality show "Green Card", no doubt will generate lots or interest and court criticism (publicity that money can't buy). It's a marketing strategy and I guess one that works - men are visual creatures. According to some research company, her book is the one most downloaded.

Having said that, there a lots of information in the book and no doubt have been cleverly crafted. Example: First of all thank you for posting your journey in finding Lena. The photos that you sent may not be approved by Elena because you were not in a suit, you look great in the photo and I guess that's what attracted Lena to you looking relaxed and in your environment.

Many men who a looking for their partner might agree with me that it's virtually impossible to go out on a date unless you look like Brad Pitt and have his bank balance, the girls are busy washing their hair. I was emailing a lady through the net and caught up with her over coffee and she wanted to know what my three year financial future goals are. That's nothing wrong with that but I think it's a bit too soon.

Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Yoda,

I'm curious to know where did you read that her ebook was the most downloaded?

Khashyar

Posted by: yodaamnot

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Originally Posted by Khashyar

Hi Yoda,

I'm curious to know where did you read that her ebook was the most downloaded?

Khashyar

Hi Khashyar,

I registered on her website to dip my toes in the water and there are regular news letter from her site and one of them was a link. From memory it was a third party supplier who manages secure card payments, gathering statistics on websites that offer the same services. Sorry can't be more specific, I've deleted the news letter.

Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Yoda,

I know that some ebooks are significantly shorter than paper books. I was wondering how many pages is Elena's book?

What did you find to be it's strengths and weaknesses?

I would like to hear from others who have also read the ebook.

Khashyar

Posted by: Khashyar

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Originally Posted by yodaamnot

Hi Yoda,

From what I read, the TV Show will air in Bulgaria, so it probably will not impact her image in the West.

Khashyar

Posted by: BradIL

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Originally Posted by yodaamnot

I was emailing a lady through the net and caught up with her over coffee and she wanted to know what my three year financial future goals are. That's nothing wrong with that but I think it's a bit too soon.

Yoda... this is an excellent anecdote to post! I've also noticed this in the last 5-10 years more frequently than in the past. So much for the feminist notions that I am independent, will establish my own net worth, etc.

I believe there is no need for another party to become familiar with financial issues until engagement. I am not a big believer in these fixed-year financial goals, it can lead a person to make disastrous decisions because of an arbitrary deadline.

For a partner that pushes the subject, it is only fair to determine how educated they are about financial subjects, and of course, their level of consumer debt, etc.

About Elena Petrova... well... the title of the book is confident in the most generous light... and ego-saturated (megalomaniacal?) from a more critical viewpoint. She's a Russian narcissist, perhaps?

Posted by: Khashyar

I am going to post a few photos that Elena uses to advertise her ebook, so that our forum members can better critically discuss the book. (Under the "Fair Use" copyright principle, photographs that accompany books, films and other works of art may be printed in order the critically discuss that work of art).

Posted by: Khashyar

more promotional photos from the book.

Posted by: Khashyar

I believe that this is the main cover photograph for the ebook.

Posted by: Khashyar

So, I am going to approach this as I did when I was a University English and Creative Writing teacher, and when I was a print news reporter, by asking:

1) What image do you think is being conveyed by these photographs in relationship to the ebook?

2) What is being conveyed by the title: "How to find and marry a girl like me"?

3) For those of you who have not read the book, what impression do you receive about the book from the book's title and these photographs? (There are perhaps twice as many photographs from the promotional materials for the book that I did not include).

Posted by: mtbclay

Kashyar, I have read the book. After looking at the photos you posted. I would think that she is using the same tactics that the agencies do to lure men in. Post photos on their home pages of mocel quality women to sell their services. She is trying to sell the same thing. The idea that a man can marry a womam that is a stunning beauty. Only thing is she is selling her opinion and marketing the women on her website.
I will re-read the book to refresh my memory. I do recall that she advises men to lavish over the woman. ie ; I seem to recall She states that a Russian man might spend a months wages on a date.
She does make some valid points about being romantic though.
Clay

Posted by: searcher

A bit off topic but if you ever discuss Marina Smiley's books I can offer my opinion.

I have received Elena's newsletters and there was some good and useful information in them but one needs to know how to distinguish the marketing hype from the reality.

I can well understand the negative opinions about her products/services but I have seen some useful information come from her also.

Posted by: Khashyar

It's good to read your feedback, Clay and Mark.

I have not read the ebook, and want to distance myself from reviewing marriage agencies and other discussion forums (so that I can stay objective here in the RMP).

One good thing about our forum, I believe, is that we don't accept any advertising dollars from any company, marriage agency, etc., so that we can hold free discussions in our forums.

And I look forward to reading more unbiased reviews and comments about "How to Find and Marry a Girl Like Me." I probably will add the book in the "Russian User Reviews" section so that we can give the ebook more objective ratings.

Khashyar

Posted by: jpierce55

Bluntly. I seen the book for sale, my instant thought after seeing those photos was this: The title says "How to find and marry a girl like me" the photo says "How to get laid by a hot Russian woman". She is definitely playing on the sex sells idea with the cover shot. Even if the book does have good info that type of marketing chases me away.

IIRC she maybe it is the age difference, but I don't think she is that great looking.

Lastly Khashyar, I don't buy into any "methods" to follow in finding a partner. I would not buy a "how to" book on dating. I understand you need to learn a little about the customs of these women, so you don't accidently offend somebody, but that is the limit of changes that should be made. If you pretend to be different than who you are the relationship is doomed. Dress how you dress, talk how you talk, act stupid if you always act stupid. Changing who you are even in the slightest will have horrible results in the end.

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by jpierce55

Lastly Khashyar, I don't buy into any "methods" to follow in finding a partner. I would not buy a "how to" book on dating. I understand you need to learn a little about the customs of these women, so you don't accidently offend somebody, but that is the limit of changes that should be made. If you pretend to be different than who you are the relationship is doomed. Dress how you dress, talk how you talk, act stupid if you always act stupid. Changing who you are even in the slightest will have horrible results in the end.

I agree JP........just act as normal as possible!!.......however, I do understand some people would never get anywhere acting normal so they need to buy these books?

Posted by: jpierce55

True enough Chris but I am far from normal myself, part of why I MUST be myself.

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by jpierce55

Changing who you are even in the slightest will have horrible results in the end.

I totally agree....you have to be yourself and not become an actor just because a book tells you that is the best way to attract women. It may work in the short term, but there is no long term future in it!!

Chris

Posted by: GreenBarb

I got the eBook hoping that it might give me some insight into russian life. The sort of do's and Don'ts. The things like taking off the shoes and such, but the rest of it was rubbish. To tell you the truth it had no bearing on what I experienced when I visited Russia. Personally or socially. When it came down to it all it was my personality which was of greater importance and being myself all the time.

If I was asked by a person if they should buy the eBook I would say "No" and keep your money. There is far greater information here on this forum from the members that what is contained in the book.

Posted by: jpierce55

That is a good reason to purchase the book.

I bought a book before going over myself (culture and customs). It was not accurate at all. I already considered what I learned here to be more realistic. The book I purchased may be (somewhat) correct for older people, but in my case meeting with early twenties women it was off. Way off. Part of the problem is the woman who wrote it sounds like she was scorned by somebody over there.

Posted by: Khashyar

Thanks, Everyone, for sharing your feedback and reviews of the book.

Khashyar

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by GreenBarb

When it came down to it all it was my personality which was of greater importance and being myself all the time.

If I was asked by a person if they should buy the eBook I would say "No" and keep your money. There is far greater information here on this forum from the members that what is contained in the book.

Ditto!!

Posted by: ham

that book is ages old. and so are her enticing pictures, i suppose.
i can find enticing pictures of 1970's actresses now in their 60's and 70's.
These rubbish "how to" books had their moment at the beginning of the FSU-MOB mass phenomenon ( mid-90's ).
Of course before a sizeable number of men had the chance to see for themselves it wasn't as easy as let believe & women are basically women from another country, not another planet (hence divorces, DV charges etc ).

Posted by: yodaamnot

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Originally Posted by Khashyar

Hi Yoda,

I know that some ebooks are significantly shorter than paper books. I was wondering how many pages is Elena's book?

What did you find to be it's strengths and weaknesses?

I would like to hear from others who have also read the ebook.

Khashyar

Hi Khashyar,

It's 165 pages. I reckon for anyone who haven't come across this forum might find the book a good start, however the content as put by some members are pretty dated and perhaps a update is in order.

Posted by: skinsfan

Elena has simply taken marketing 101......she wants to own the market share of the western men...she understands that sex/beauty sells, that is why her promotional photos sell this (although i think her self opinion is much too high). she states that she can teach all men to find and marry a Russian woman such as herself. i think a more proper title would be....how to have a woman like me make more money. .... i would suggest that most "how to" books are a waste of hard earned money. to me..she simply looks like a rip off in progress...but again...opinions are like noses...we all have one........

Posted by: GreenBarb

I agree the contents of the Book are dated and would even go as far to say it is very Dated.
The thing that jumped out at me was that she makes sweeping statements about Russian women. Which are not true because all people are different.
Yes, you will find some general trends from culture but not personallity as she makes them out to be.

Posted by: mtbclay

How does the old saying go. if you can't make a living at it write a book about it.

Posted by: ham

ages ago i read a post of hers claiming that she married at over 30 or something and was basically an "old maid" left on the shelf until she met her prince charming.
I think she belongs to the high-expectations visa queen/wonder woman kind of FSUW i won't touch with a 50 meters pole.
That comes with the "marry a model" rubbish as well.
I would thread suspiciously any self-proclaimed "model": that is a big ego problem unless they can actually prove they are big time beauty or nude award winners...
and if so, i wonder what would they want to do with me or 99% other men in the MOB process.

I once asked her on a forum about how they actually make sure to weed out scammers, and the answer of whoever was posting under her name was it was none of my business to know her "secrets", which is basically blowing smoke because there aren't 555 ways and that just tells you they go as they can taking no specific measures.
They're no better than m@tch-com, AF@, Sc@nna & other big junk dating networks.

Posted by: Jerico

I never bought the book but i did buy some addresses of gorgeous woman (at least my idea of gorgeous) from her site.
I studied the profiles for about a month.
I wrote down the ones that caught my eyes and paid for about 40 addresses.
I wrote to 22 women, 19 responded.
They were all legit.
I wrote emails everyday and weeded them down to just one woman.
Went to visit her twice, but it did not work out between us.I think she was scared to move. i will never know.Also i meet some of her friends that were listed on that site. Beautiful women , every one of them and none were married and all were single, asking if i had friends

Most of them told me that it was hard to meet a decent guy there in Volgograd because they were to old, LOL 27 years old is old.
Elena was right about that part of it.
The guys there wanted younger woman

Off the same original 40 list I wrote to some of the woman that did not respond to my first letters.
Well the one I really wanted to meet wrote me back this time.
Now i am married to her

Point is i did learn a lot about the Russian women from here site.
Of course this happened before I found this site also.
If I had to do this all over I would write woman listed on this sites singles pages.Theres some nice woman there too!!
Everything worked out for me so I have no complaints towards her.
If she can make some money selling an E-book, more power to her.
Taking advantage of capitalism.
Jerry

Posted by: Khashyar

Thank you for all of your comments and thoughts.

Since I want to stay unbiased and impartial, I do not want to recommend or not recommend Elena Petrova's services, but I will say that Elena has a good business mind.

Khashyar

Posted by: GentleGiant

I read the book and picked up an idea of what to do and how to act when I visited Russia, it is not 100% correct, no book or person can be, and it is out of date; all of the FSU has changed beyond recognition since EM was created. But the basics are there, albeit padded out a lot.
As a guide book on its own I do not think it is a particuarly good book, but it is a start and by using the internet and reading all I could find about Russia and its customs I avoided looking like a git while I was there.

Well, nearly; the "strawberry blush" coloured shirt I wore raised a few eyebrows, even in Moscow. I am sure they all thought I was gay although Lera never said anything and actually said later on, how well dressed I was.

At the very least the fact that many of the points mentioned in the book are repeated in guides on other sites give you some confidence that they know what they are talking about.

On another thread they question the male/female ratio figures that EM uses; during my visit (1st - 13th Aug 2006) I saw many attractive, well dressed women but very few well dressed men. There were many roughly dressed and a lot more drunks and tramps than I am used to seeing anywhere in England. On one occaision a (very) young woman I was talking to was approached by a Russian man, she had a look of absolute disgust on her face and when I asked her what was wrong she told me he was a drunk; and he was one of the better looking and dressed men in sight !!.
That was in Central Moscow,and in and arround the Kremlin, it was much more noticable when I reached Kaluga. Even when we went out with Lera's friends she warned me that the husbands all drank too much. I even saw drunk police/militia?? in uniform ( unshaven and I would say unbathed in a week), asking for money at the bus station.

Posted by: too_tall

This is my first post on this forum, I liked Elena's book. It has some things that are a little out of date but it had some good information. I have been to Ukraine four times since November 2005, My fifth trip will be on November 22, 2006.

I have read a number of other books on the subject.

How to happily Survive Marriage to a Russian woman by Billy Conn
Russian wife: Your Greatest Blessing or Your biggest Mistake William & Julia Rossendahl
How to Survive in International Marriage by Oksana Leslie
Wedded Strangers The challenges of Russian-American Marriages by Lynn Visson
From Nyet to Da Understanding the Russians by Yale Richmond

I read a couple of other internet type books and think that although some of them are informative they are very short for the price.

All of them are a little out of date, but I am the type who thinks that there is no such thing as too much information.

Another e book it is written for Russian woman about the Cultural Shock that Russian women will discover when they get here and a couple of ways to deal with it. It was written in English and in Russian on the same download.
Wanna Marry a Russian Woman? Have her read this first
by Lydia Johnson

I found this forum only recently after seeing a link on a different forum and consider this forum a great resource.

Just my two kopecks

Bill

Posted by: ira156

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant

I read the book and picked up an idea of what to do and how to act when I visited Russia, it is not 100% correct, no book or person can be, and it is out of date; all of the FSU has changed beyond recognition since EM was created. But the basics are there, albeit padded out a lot.
As a guide book on its own I do not think it is a particuarly good book, but it is a start and by using the internet and reading all I could find about Russia and its customs I avoided looking like a git while I was there.

Well, nearly; the "strawberry blush" coloured shirt I wore raised a few eyebrows, even in Moscow. I am sure they all thought I was gay although Lera never said anything and actually said later on, how well dressed I was.

At the very least the fact that many of the points mentioned in the book are repeated in guides on other sites give you some confidence that they know what they are talking about.

On another thread they question the male/female ratio figures that EM uses; during my visit (1st - 13th Aug 2006) I saw many attractive, well dressed women but very few well dressed men. There were many roughly dressed and a lot more drunks and tramps than I am used to seeing anywhere in England. On one occaision a (very) young woman I was talking to was approached by a Russian man, she had a look of absolute disgust on her face and when I asked her what was wrong she told me he was a drunk; and he was one of the better looking and dressed men in sight !!.
That was in Central Moscow,and in and arround the Kremlin, it was much more noticable when I reached Kaluga. Even when we went out with Lera's friends she warned me that the husbands all drank too much. I even saw drunk police/militia?? in uniform ( unshaven and I would say unbathed in a week), asking for money at the bus station.

Hey GG, firstly i found Elenas site and book very helpful ( even though i didnt find my angel there). I tend to dissagree with you about the Russian men. I thought that a lot of them ...particularly those in their 20's to be very well dressed and presented...although those in their 40's seemed to have gone downhill???? But i did see an absolutely paraleticly drunk cop walking the street still in uniform ,... i mean he could hardly stand... I did only go to Moscow , ST Petes and volograd though so it might be different in the provinces. Cheers Mate

Posted by: Dave_N_Elvira

I found Elena�s Models a very useful source. They were one of the first places, if not the first place, to take an active stand against scammers. Their blacklist is very comprehensive and certainly saved me a few potential disappointments. A lot of their articles are useful and informative, especially for those starting out in this endeavour.

For the seasoned veteran though a lot of the stuff can seem meaningless but for someone new to the whole RW dating scene they offer up quite a lot of advice. I did use one of their services, the gentlemans catalog, and got a heap of responses back from that.

Ira, here is something that you might or might not know about. Elena is actually based in Australia. She married a South African bloke and they emigrated to Brisbane a while back.

Posted by: ira156

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Originally Posted by Dave_N_Elvira

I found Elena�s Models a very useful source. They were one of the first places, if not the first place, to take an active stand against scammers. Their blacklist is very comprehensive and certainly saved me a few potential disappointments. A lot of their articles are useful and informative, especially for those starting out in this endeavour.

For the seasoned veteran though a lot of the stuff can seem meaningless but for someone new to the whole RW dating scene they offer up quite a lot of advice. I did use one of their services, the gentlemans catalog, and got a heap of responses back from that.

Ira, here is something that you might or might not know about. Elena is actually based in Australia. She married a South African bloke and they emigrated to Brisbane a while back.

Yeah dave i was aware, got the site, bought the book got the t shirt..he he. I think what made her story interesting was as she said she married the man not the country....as they immigrated here after she had left Russia for Sth Africa.

Posted by: Dave_N_Elvira

They saw the light Ira and realised its the best country on the planet to live

Posted by: ira156

Ah we are a lucky bunch Dave......now all you have to do is move to perth and youve got it down pat....he he he

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by Khashyar

Thank you for all of your comments and thoughts.

Since I want to stay unbiased and impartial, I do not want to recommend or not recommend Elena Petrova's services, but I will say that Elena has a good business mind.

Khashyar

I was impressed that Elena has a link to the RMP, it shows that she is not afraid to have people learn more about her company & others, there are all kinds of reviews here, both good & bad

Posted by: Chillidog

I read her book prior to going to Russia the first time back in June 2006.
It helped me in a lot of ways it reminded my of the basics of dating---being a gentleman, hold her hand when getting in and out of a car or train stuff like that. In a way since Russia was new to me it also reinforced that they are Human not some uncaring communist machine.
Two points she made I used then and will always use in the future. 1) you only have "one" chance to make a good impression so do dress sharp in my case even after traveling 26 hours to meet her I had a suit and tie on (I had a 9 hour layover at the Moscow airport before I flew to her city, so I changed and freshened up there) also within a few mintues of meeting her (right after the great big hug) I presented her with 1 red rose which was from a florist 5 minutes from my home, which was also a suggestion by her, that all ladies love flowers.
2) I used her suggestion of each day upon seeing your lady for the first moment present her with a gift, it does not have to be a big or expensive, but it really shows you are a generous man and not selfish, this work like a charm, but I did not do what Elena stated and give her a ring on the final day---thought this was a little overboard for only knowing them a in person for 1 week. As far as gifts the most expensive gift cost me arounf $60-70 dollars a very nice perfume ---Hypnose by Lancim of Paris--- have gifts for other's in her family-parents-children if there is a chance of meeting them.
3) ok I said two but thought of this as I was writting. Again since this was my first trip she did give some insight to they way a RW will think about relations due to the way of life and also past difficulties with men, and this did help me maybe in understanding this woman better.
as written previuosly even if this e-book is old, one can never have enough info or others points of views.

Posted by: Link

I bought the Ebook yesterday, I'm gonna check it out.

Posted by: GentleGiant

you should have asked, I would have errrr, "lent" you my copy.

Posted by: Link

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant

you should have asked, I would have errrr, "lent" you my copy.

Thanks, I'm gonna check the forum more often.

Posted by: Manchester

The thing about any book on this subject matter is that first, one must validate the experience of the author/s and decide if you think this is judgement/perspective you can trust, and then to establish how recent the content is.

Second - anyone can write an 'e-book' in an afternoon, throw it together with some cheap software and put it out there for a few dollars. Add a bit of standard sensationalistic marketing copy and hopefully watch the dollars roll in.

I had sight of a copy of the EM book some time ago and I thought that although it did touch on a few basics a newbie should know, it was woefully out of date. It was written pre IMBRA so there is nothing on that, no country specifics for practical things like Visas and Drivers Licences, modern scamming techniques are not covered and so on.

If a newbie can procure a "used" copy for free then it may be worth a read, you may not be too thrilled if you spend real money on it though.

A real book (with paper) at least is demonstrative that a publisher has invested some money in its production and has confidence in the product.

Posted by: GentleGiant

I must agree, the book is very basic and very out of date; but it does at least give the flavour of what dating a Russian woman is about; although the extreme jealousy caught me out several times.

Posted by: Chrismc

GG

I have not seen extreme jealousy in the FSU women I have known at all, my wife is certainly not like that. Have you come across it many times?

Chris

Posted by: blucatz

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Originally Posted by Chrismc

GG

I have not seen extreme jealousy in the FSU women I have known at all, my wife is certainly not like that. Have you come across it many times?

Chris

What is the definition of "extreme jealousy"?

My Lady always asks me the same question every Saturday about my dance party on Friday nights "Did you dance with Svetlana and what was she wearing?"

She only seems a little bit jealous of the other Russian woman I am friends with, not so much the AW.

Posted by: GentleGiant

When I was in Kaluga with Lera she would get her back up if another woman came within 50ft of us; even though I already knew she was not that interested in me!!!!

In both the major rows I have had with Ria, one of the first things she brings up is Katja; I have heard it from other people and witnessed it myself, the women are a LOT more possessive than anyone I have ever dated in the West.

Finally , I was writing to two women from Svetlana's Agency last year when one found the details of the other on the agency computers and threw a major hissy fit; they both already knew I was writing to two women, but she just HAD to go digging and find out who the other one was.

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant

When I was in Kaluga with Lera she would get her back up if another woman came within 50ft of us; even though I already knew she was not that interested in me!!!!

In both the major rows I have had with Ria, one of the first things she brings up is Katja; I have heard it from other people and witnessed it myself, the women are a LOT more possessive than anyone I have ever dated in the West.

Finally , I was writing to two women from Svetlana's Agency last year when one found the details of the other on the agency computers and threw a major hissy fit; they both already knew I was writing to two women, but she just HAD to go digging and find out who the other one was.

Being possesive and proud of their man is one thing, my wife is very proud of me, but is not over jealous at all, acting like the women from Svetlanas above is quite another thing though

Women who display symptoms of extreme jealousy can be very insecure and usually need to work on issues of self-esteem, self-confidence, self respect and self love. Once they can improve these areas of their life, the problem will tend to subside.

Posted by: GentleGiant

yeah, I dropped her like a live bomb!!

Posted by: Manchester

I think jealousy exhibits itself in different ways with FSU women, there are subtle differences I have observed, although it is very much there but well hidden beneath the surface.

My wife for example, is totally unconcerned about English women, for her they are a complete non issue. She is very possessive when it comes to other Russian women.

If we are visiting friends with an RW in the house, she suddenly comes over possessive and clingy (in a nice way) - yet with English friends I dont see this at all. (However nice the ladies present may be)

I was once chatting innocently by PM on another forum with a lady (who is also our client) from Moscow - not my type at all BTW - when she noticed she asked me "why do you feel the need to propogate this relationship?"

Yet when my English ex, (who is quite slim and nice) is flirty with me she laughs at it. I asked her why the English girl didnt worry her, her reply was "I am the Russian girl" as if that was the only qualification required. When I pressed the issue and held the former up for comparison, her reply was "you travelled thousands of miles because English women were not for you, I am Russian, I have no competition here"

It is very difficult to generalize, as people are different everywhere.

Posted by: blucatz

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Originally Posted by Manchester

She got you on that one, I can't even think of a comeback for that.....LOL

Posted by: Legal

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Originally Posted by Chrismc

Agree. Also jealousy is a sign that a person doesn't trust you.

Olga (Legal's wife)

Posted by: blucatz

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Originally Posted by Legal

Agree. Also jealousy is a sign that a person doesn't trust you.

Olga (Legal's wife)

I agree with Chris about the extreme jealousy, but, on the other side of the coin, a little bit of jealousy can also be a good thing. It shows the person that they will fight for the relationship and that they really care about you to not want to give you up. I personally like just a tad bit of jealousy, but nothing too extreme as to where the woman is checking your email, your phone logs and going thru your clothes looking for certain receipts. Just my

worth.

Posted by: Legal

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Originally Posted by blucatz

It shows the person that they will fight for the relationship and that they really care about you to not want to give you up.

I don't know

I think there should be nothing in true relationship that can cause a fight for it, and a person who really loves and respects you will not do anything that can produce even a fleeting thought that one day you have to fight.

Olga (Legal's wife)