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RMP Scam-Risk &Relationship Analysis tool: Evaluate your Russian-Western relationship

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Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Everyone,

I am happy to unveil the beta version of the Russian Meeting Place's "Russian-Western Relationship Health and Scam Risk Analysis."

I have been working on designing and writing the program for a while, and I am inviting anyone who is interested to "test drive" the program.

The program is designed to evaluate a Russian-Western relationship in the pre-immigration phase, and to help point out potential strengths, problems, and risks.

I still have some work to do on it (I have to add written analyses for certain answers that are giving to the relationship questionnaire), but I think that it might be interesting to look at already....

My hope is that it will help those of you who are at the email writing and pre-fiance visa approval stage to have a better sense of your relationships and hopefully avoid some of the risks of entering into an unhealthy relationship.

Let me know what you think...

Here is the link: http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...thscamtest.html

Khashyar



Posted by: Jill

My relationship's total health score was -11.5 and it said "High Level of Caution! - There are warning signs in your relationship that need serious evaluation." Am I being scammed?

Sorry, Khashyar, I had to give it a try. It's actually pretty cool, though.



Posted by: tonton

Khashyar,

A good idea and am sure others will suggest changes.

Question 13 - you need an option suggesting she has never asked for rent money.


Cheer
Tony



Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Jill....

Were you just fooling around with the answers, or did you answer the questions honestly and accurately?

Khashyar



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
did you answer the questions honestly and accurately?


I answered honestly!!!!

(I pay for his internet and there was an unexpected medical expense recently...I think those were the answers that got me )



Posted by: Khashyar

I'm going to also work on adding specific feedback to many or all of the answers chosen so that the person can receive a detailed "written" report tailored to that person's circumstances and relationship.

Khashyar



Posted by: Khashyar

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
I answered honestly!!!!




Do you remember what your scores were?



Posted by: Khashyar

Quote:
Originally posted by tonton


Question 13 - you need an option suggesting she has never asked for rent money.


Thanks, Tony...

Yes, this is at a beta stage, but... I believe that the computation aspect of the program is pretty accurate.... thought they might need to be tweaked a bit.

Khashyar



Posted by: Khashyar

I am going to want to tweak the program a bit, so I welcome your feedback and comments.

Khashyar

P.S..... It would be especially helpful if you sent me your "relationship health" and "scam" scores....



Posted by: rtking

Nifty tool! I wonder about question 1 and 7 being a little similar though. Overall Olga and I are doing well! We got a 24 or "Positive Outlook."

Bob



Posted by: Khashyar

That's a good score, Bob

The way the scores are tallied is that each answer to each question is given a score (either a specific negative or positive value), and then the scores to all of your answers are tallied at the end.

The final evaluations are based upon your total scores (for both relationship health and scam risk). Each level of score corresponds in a different evaluation level.

I have been working on the formula and concept for a while.

There are some things that I will fine-tune, and I am working on some of the specific "Comments and Feedback" right now that will be displayed after a particular person's takes the evaluation.

Thanks for trying it out...

I will look at Q's 1 and 7... I thought it was o.k. to repeat a question if there was something different about the question or answer choices, so that we could receive a clearer indication of that aspect of the relationship.

Thanks for test driving it

Khashyar



Posted by: lester

Have had a look, but cannot fully complete questionaire.

My observations are:

4.
Not showing / last minute excuses.

13.
No/never needed.

Will take test and post result later.



Posted by: Khashyar

Thanks for your feedback, Lester...

Yes, I will probably need to add some "none", "no" or "never"'s to a few of the questions....

I am going to try to post some of the written paragraph analysis to the quiz either tonight or tomorrow (I am writing some of it now....).

Let me know how you score, Lester....

Khashyar



Posted by: AkMike

Hi Kashyar,
I "took it for a test drive." But I put myself back in a pre-engagement mode to do it. I agree with TonTon and Lester about #13.
My scores were total Health 24
Average Health .08
Scam 20.5
Average scam .6833333333


It was interesting to read the comments after the scores. Very good insite and I can see the time and thoughfulness that went into it. I think it will help someone in the future.

Good JOB!



Posted by: AkMike

I went back and re read it and found a small glitch maybe..


Average Scam Risk Score:
This is the average Scam Risk Score that you received per question on your questionnaire. The range of possible scores is from approximately positive 1.01 to negative 1.92, with positive 1.01 being the best possible score.


Your relationship's average scam potential score= 0.68333333333333

1.01 is the best? I got the .683333333333333..
All questions were answered honestly!



Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Mike,

Thank you for test driving the machine

Yes, I will add the "none"/"no" option to #13.

Regarding your score...

.683333333333333 is between negative 1.92 and positive 1.01..... (.6833) is less than 1.0....

Maybe I should display make that more clear in the results section.

Thanks for your comments.

Khashyar



Posted by: Khashyar

With the "avg" scores, I wanted to present the average number of points that a person received per answer, but perhaps I should present it as a number from 1 to 100, or -100 to +100, or something like that.... I will have to think about how I might present the avg scores so that they are clear and easy to read, and so that the computations still function correctly.

Khashyar



Posted by: Khashyar

If you have not yet tried the RMP relationship and scam analysis tool, then you can try it now and receive my comments and feedback based upon your answers.

I am about 75% finished with incorporating my specific comments and feedback to your answers, which you will receive the end of the survey as a printed report.

After I am finished with all of the comments, the program will be upgraded as the "Beta 2" version.

I have spent time on the analysis of your answers so that you can receive a good analysis of your Russian-Western relationship.

Please keep in mind that this scam/ relationship analysis is designed for those of you who are NOT married.

Please feel free to post your scores here if you wish.

I have designed this program as a helpful tool those who need further insight into their pre-marriage Russian-Western relationship.

Khashyar



Posted by: Khashyar

Here is another RMP user's comments that were PMed to me:

Quote:
Khashyar,
I see two minor problems with your questionaire. On #13, you don't allow one to say that she has never asked for rent $$.

I like your questionaire, and your comments I think may reassure or appropriate caution individuals who are not as far into it as I am -- or who are approaching it in a more "traditional" way. I met my fiance literally at work. She was a translator invited to assist us. Was I ever lucky!

On 23, you don't allow one to admit to (or celebrate!) engagement after knowing her awhile. My fiancee and I knew each other 30 months before getting engaged -- we got engaged at the end of my 8th long business trip to her hometown.

In general, I agree that it is risky to give RW money, and especially risky when it is early. And it can be very appropriate to do so, in my judgement, after you've know her for some time.




Posted by: Khashyar

Thank you to Everyone's suggestions,

I am going to make a couple of adjustments to the questions in a few days when I have more free time.

Please continue to offer more suggestions if you have them.

Khashyar



Posted by: lindochka

Having known my fiance socially for nearly four years before our relationship as a couple began, I wasn't really worried about being scammed, but I "test-drove" this out of curiosity.

We got a total relationship health score of 25 and an average health score of 0.83333333333333. Scam risk was 2 out of 5 (minimal). Total scam potential score was 19 and average scam potential score was 0.63333333333333. I think that's not too bad.

It was difficult to answer some of the questions (I had to be a little creative) because some of them don't apply to our situation. Well, I know our situation is a bit different. Overall, though, I think this is a good tool for a westerner involved in the more usual form of a search for a partner from the east.



Posted by: Khashyar

Thanks, lindochka, for trying the relationship analysis tool, and for your feedback about it.

I wish you the very best and highest happiness in your relationship.

Khashyar



Posted by: BradIL

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill: I answered honestly!!!! :bagoverI pay for his internet and there was an unexpected medical expense recently...I think those were the answers that got me )


Beautiful!

The personal advice columnists would love to deal with these points. Jill... immediately call this to the attention of Ann Landers when you return to America.



Posted by: Jill

Quote:
Jill... immediately call this to the attention of Ann Landers when you return to America.


I don't think a letter would reach her now.....





Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Everyone,

Thank you again for your feedback.

I added a "no, never" option to Question #13, which asks whether the person you are in a relationship with has asked "money for rent or other personal expenses?"

Khashyar



Posted by: anthonyd

Here were my results:

Total Health: 18
Avg Health: 0.6
Scam Potential: 13.5 (2 of 5 stars)
Avg Scam Potential: 0.45

A couple points where my honest answer did not fit into the possible answer choices:

I have never met my fiancee in her country. However, we have spent many months together in another country other than our own.

She has only asked for a couple times in 9 months, neither totaling the available choices. In total I have given her less than $300.

We have spoken about marriage although she never asked nor indicated it was to early. We both discussed the possibility and she replied with continuing the relationship as it is. However, upon her arriving to the States we would have to marry and she was happy and content with this.

I think my situation is different than many others here based on the fact that we have met in person through a mutual friend. We were able to spend a great deal of time together getting to know each other (almost 8-9 months) and then another 1-2 months via phone after we both went home.



Posted by: mistermopar

Hi Khashyar,
I liked it alot,good idea.
I was wondering though,near the begining,it asks if she has ever asked for money,I put no.Farther down it again asks if she has asked for money again on about 5 questions in a row.
If you put no for the first one,maybe it should not ask again later on and have a differant set of questions for them people......or is that starting to get way to tecnical..

I had a good out come anyways,can't remember the score.

Randy



Posted by: J60

Hi Khashyar

I also tried this out of curiosity although i'm married, i got 20.5 i think the answer was skewed slightly lower than it would have been because one of my answers may have been diffrent if i had filled this in 12 months ago,
but you did say not for those who are married,

I think it is pretty good ,

the only suggestion i can make would be to give some of the questions a slightly larger number of answers to give a narrower gap some of the questions are black or white but no shades of grey in between if that makes sense, but if used properly it will give some people food for thought,

John



Posted by: mtbclay

Hi Kashyar,
I just tried the analysis. Seems good, I think my score reflected my relationship so far. Since I have not met her in person. Since the questions have need to cover a wide spectrum. The analysis will give a good guidline. In question 24 maybe it is possible to expand on the answer of fear and trepidation about the relationship. In the comments about that answer there are three possiblities for feeling fear and trepidation. Perhaps 3 sub questions with different values given could narrow the accuaracy. Overall it looks good.
Clay



Posted by: jeffs

Very need. That must have taken some time to develop. I have a few suggestions, though it's impossible to take into account everything.

My results...
Your relationship's total health score is: 14.5
Your relationship's total scam potential score is: 6

One... You have no option for meeting in person in a country other than hers. There are a few places that you can go that they don't need a visa. I.e. A Russian to the Ukraine, Turkey, Egypt, Dominican Republic and Jamaica. I met my Russian GF in the Ukraine, becuase of the last minute nature of my trip and not being able to get a visa into Russia in 24hrs.

Two... How did you meet. It's possible now a days to meet people from all over the world with programs like yahoo messenger or ICQ.

Over all very cool program... Thanks for taking the time to make it!



Posted by: anthonyjdcom

Jeffs, this is a good point. I think he may be working on this if there is enough interest. I have also met my fiancee in another country. While she did need a visa for the UAE she did not for Turkey which is were we vacationed for a week before I finished my work in the Middle East.



Posted by: anthonyd

Somehow I clicked the link sent to anthonyd but it logged me in as anthonyjdcom???? very wierd as I do not remember registering with anthonyjdcom.

anyway, my intended post is above =)



Posted by: SteveM

Well mine gave me a positive outlook.

With question 3) Have you spoken to her on the phone?

If they don't speak English it's likely to get a different answer than if they do.



Posted by: SeekingForThe1

Hello Khashyer,

I tried the analysis and I thought it to be helpful to me. I will take it again if this relationship keeps going and I then can compare my answers later.

Results after three weeks of e-mailing:

Relationship Health Score: 3.5
Relationship Scam Score: -4 or (3 out of 5)

It is a good tool to see how things progress...

Corey J



Posted by: JPanther

Hi,

This test is pretty cool. However, there are a few questions that do not give me options to answer the question accurately. For instance, I have not offered and she has not asked for money. However, there was an instance where I said I was going to send her a package (one of my CD's and some flowers) and she quickly stated "Do not send money!" Also, I had to answer the question that she wanted to get married very soon without having met personally yet. However, the real answer is that we feel that we are a good match and hope that we will really want to marry after we meet in person in July.

Just a thought about broadening the questions a little.



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