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Fifty percent of Russian women are short of me
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Posted by: gino

http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90...5063_women.html

Posted by: fly4fun

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>>It just so happens that Russian women's ability to love is directly connected with men's ability to make money.

Kind of sheds new light on the subject of RW doesn't it??

I'm not sure that this is any surprise to anyone. As someone once said, I want to marry for love but better for love AND money.

Posted by: lechef

I can not say that it is the norm but I can testify that when I have been looking for the right woman to weed out the gold digger as I can get married to one here. I say to them in my letters that I am not a rich man nor am I poor. Nine out of ten times they do not reply back. This way I will know that this person is here for the real deal and not just a meal ticket. I also never tell them I have my own house on the beach either as I want to find real love and then spoil them after wards.

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally posted by lechef
I can not say that it is the norm but I can testify that when I have been looking for the right woman to weed out the gold digger as I can get married to one here. I say to them in my letters that I am not a rich man nor am I poor. Nine out of ten times they do not reply back. This way I will know that this person is here for the real deal and not just a meal ticket. I also never tell them I have my own house on the beach either as I want to find real love and then spoil them after wards.

Lechef!!! You have a house on the beach!!! I AM IN LOVE

Do you want a slightly overweight old guy???? DANG, WHY NOT???

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by Texas Proud
Lechef!!! You have a house on the beach!!! I AM IN LOVE

Do you want a slightly overweight old guy???? DANG, WHY NOT???

And you have to offer..

Posted by: fly4fun

My own guess is it must be quite a balancing act going on when it comes to finances.
On one hand, you can completely understand why a lady would not want to be going from one type of life to a much poorer one.
On the other, the man doesn't want to feel like the only connection between them is how much money he has.

The one thing I've come away with in my brief exposure to russia is the people are somewhat pragmatic.
If that is truely the case, a lady would simply be looking for the best combination of partner and financial stability. I'm not convinced this is all bad. I guess it would depend on exactly what the situation is and who the person is.

I remember reading somewhere that the main cause of divorce is money related. Now you read that some of the problems in Russian marriages/relationships are related to lack of work/money.

Perhaps the article is not as surprising as you might first think.

Bob

Posted by: rattlesnake6979

Gino , the article isnt true - The article should read " 50% of russian women short of wealthy russian men "

Personally , if I could marry a fabulously wealthy woman who was young , attractive and had similar values then Id go for it - men and women both like money ; it sucks to be unable to have choice and money gives people choice.

My gf has already stated that she wants at least the same standard of house as my father ( not her father ) and has already got me working weekends and nights to earn extra money - this part of the deal was never stated in her letters to me at the begining of the e mailing correspondance.

Her ladyship is now in her hometown visiting her sister and I hope to see her again in March - plus today is my birthday

Rattle

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally posted by rattlesnake6979
Gino , the article isnt true - The article should read " 50% of russian women short of wealthy russian men "

Personally , if I could marry a fabulously wealthy woman who was young , attractive and had similar values then Id go for it - men and women both like money ; it sucks to be unable to have choice and money gives people choice.

My gf has already stated that she wants at least the same standard of house as my father ( not her father ) and has already got me working weekends and nights to earn extra money - this part of the deal was never stated in her letters to me at the begining of the e mailing correspondance.

Her ladyship is now in her hometown visiting her sister and I hope to see her again in March - plus today is my birthday

Rattle

First, Happy Birthday and a UK

But, if your GF ia already demanding things from you, then I would not want her... sorry to say.. If you have not already married, think LONG and HARD if you really want someone like that..

Love is blind, but someone that is so demanding will create hostility later in life... you might put up with it... but I bet it will happen...

Me....

Posted by: loulou

The article should be read - 50% of Russian women are unmarried. That means that they were unlucky to find their beloved only men to get married. It isn't a secret that 40% of Russian men are engaged with Vodka. It it the true that intelligent and clever ones are married already... If a man is rich or wealthy he could provide several women - three...four... at the same time. Yeah. But he coudn't marry all of them in spite of all his big love to them

It is the true that because of vodka a lot of men die at their 40 years old. What has to do a Russian woman to find a proper man? As for me - I am nearly at my 40th. It's very difficult to meet a man of this age without money. As a rule at this age everybody has made career and achieved some wellbeing. What to do?

Texas Proud, why you didn't answer to my private message?

Posted by: alenika

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Originally posted by lechef
And you have to offer..

<<< alenika is impatiently waiting for continuation?
Or you continued in private?

Posted by: Pawel_PL.USA

WOW, so I knew it - I really am lucky that I wound up with the woman I wound up with - she right out refuses to accept gifts that appear to have been overly expensive. Nevertheless, she has been thinking of a digital camera and I'm trying to find a way to get her one at a bargain.

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by lechef
I also never tell them I have my own house on the beach either as I want to find real love and then spoil them after wards.

lechef, why do you think that news about your house could spoil relation between you and your girl? My mother lieves at the sea side. I often relax there. And every man there has a flat or a house on the beach... What is the problem with your house?

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by loulou
lechef, why do you think that news about your house could spoil relation between you and your girl? My mother lieves at the sea side. I often relax there. And every man there has a flat or a house on the beach... What is the problem with your house?

(Nothing wrong with it all all, it is quite well)
I have been fortunate to been brought up in a family with love and money. The area that I live in is for the wealthy although I do not consider my self wealthy as I my family owned this house first leading me to get it way, way below market value. But Through experience and even now when dating I can get most women Californian women when two thing are in play. First my car and second the house that I live in. But the trick is that I have never been happy attracting such women as it just leads to dishonesty in women so far from whom I have meet. I have found that if these two thing do not come into play then I wouldn't get a second look from them either. So I based this on my current status in dating here in California. I can say if I am looking for some arm candy then all is good but thats not what I am looking for as I want an honest, kind and loyal woman by my side. You know it may not even be a Russian woman that I find but I am sure going to die trying to find that special someone. I am at the point where I am dating regularly and if something happens it happens and I am going to let my Karma lead my way.

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by lechef

I have been fortunate to been brought up in a family with love and money....

But the trick is that I have never been happy attracting such women as it just leads to dishonesty in women so far from whom I have meet.

lechef, OKay. It seems I understood you. I can be wrong, but something tell me that you are mistaken. There are a lot of men who has a house and a nice car. They like women, and women like them....hmmm... Why do you think that having a nice car and a nice house is a problem of dishonesty???

I can say that the problem in your relation with a woman is different. But people usually like to blame money: If a woman dumps her husband, he says -- she has found somebody, who has more money....
If a man is very wealthy, he says -- she has loved me because of money...How much money needs one to be happy? -- there is a very curious question.

As for me I would be surprised If I would met a nice man without house, car and money! WOW !! Probably he is a gambler or a drug addict !! - would I think

As for me -- I have a house in a village and could buy I car if I need it. But I don't think that men like me for these . I'm sure they like me because of my long legs, beautiful breast, intelligence and a very nice personality. And the problem of dishonesty lyes deeper. I think you are dishonest with them -- and they are dishonest with you in return... I can be wrong... will you correct me, please

Posted by: alenika

I just want to tell that if someone starts to speak about car, house or money right away then I get the feeling of trade.
But on some stage, when there is talk about common future - it's not honest to lie about anything in one's life - even if it's house or money which can blind others.
I hope though lechef that you don't lie about all this, just don't speak much about this. It's ok then.

Posted by: lechef

I am who I am. some take it as conceded some take it confidence. I know what person I am and I live life simple but do not short change myself in life's pleasures either. I am not on earth to impress just tell it like I see it. I been through more in my life then most people have. I have experienced poverty by self infliction and I experienced wealth. I have to come to one conclusion in my life and I live it by the rule of karma as in order to succeed in life you need to make people around you better through your actions. I am a volunteer in the community as I teach youth hockey to 10-12 yr old in our local youth hockey organization. I am also a big brother in Big brothers and big sisters of America and this is where I feel most content in life. As far a lying goes one can only fool himself by this as at times I can say more then is needed to. I enjoy everyone input here as I am still feeling my way through this process to see if it is right for me. I am not a person that just jumps into something as it is always thought out and planed. So if I sound conceded I am sorry but to know me you will find out I am blunt to the point and DO NOT play games.

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by alenika
I just want to tell that if someone starts to speak about car, house or money right away then I get the feeling of trade.
But on some stage, when there is talk about common future - it's not honest to lie about anything in one's life - even if it's house or money which can blind others.
I hope though lechef that you don't lie about all this, just don't speak much about this. It's ok then.

No. No.No. I need hear how is big lechef's house. Why not? It's so marvelous to hear how big and wonderful is someone's house on the beach! Lechef, I pray you, please --a story about your house ....

lechef, have you profile here? I need to look at you ...

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by loulou
No. No.No. I need hear how is big lechef's house. Why not? It's so marvelous to hear how big and wonderful is someone's house on the beach! Lechef, I pray you, please --a story about your house ....

lechef, have you profile here? I need to look at you ...

Ok I see that there are big differences in western ways and the ways of eastern people. I will not and need not to speak of my things here but only express my needs that pertain to this site. We are now venturing on a subject that I did not come here for and yes I brought this on myself and will stop it by myself. As I stated you can hate me you can ignore me you can distrust me but in the scope of the real world what I say or what you say will never cause a difference in my life or yours. So if I caused a distraction to the original topic I am sorry but I will never be sorry for who I am or for what I have archived through hard work.
Please DO NOT pray for me as I have family for that. Spend more time praying for those you know and not one on the other end of a machine.

Posted by: wchever

loulou,

"But I don't think that men like me for these . I'm sure they like me because of my long legs, beautiful breast, intelligence and a very nice personality."

I'm certain you forgot lovely face and radiant hair.

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by wchever

I'm certain you forgot lovely face and radiant hair.

Her eyes could be radiant...sometimes. Sometimes they are tired till death. Sometimes they are in anger... But at first men look at her legs.... And nobody knows first how much money lies in her pocket............................................ ..
It sounds like 50 per cent of men are short of her. Why?

Renata Litvinova. The movie: "Goddess: how I fell in love". She stands up from the bed in the morning. You don't see her radiant hair or face after the night... Only beautiful Legs. Those legs put on shoes...Then those legs go away to their work. Uncovered/unsuited (?) bed. HER BED. Then...You see a half of bottle of brandy under the bed.

She is unmarried. yes. But she doesn't even guess that 50% of Russian women are short of husbands....or of their money. She doesn't hang in internet.... She works, eats, sleeps, sees her dreams at nights..... and in those dreams almost every night her dead mother says to her that she should be strong....... Who is she? Just an ordinary Russian woman... But Renata Litvinova

Posted by: wchever

"But Renata Litvinova"

Indeed, it does matter.

If we could all write our own scripts, then no one would be 50% short of anything.

Legs are nice, as are breasts.

But the first thing I awake to in the morning is the face. Nothing quite like looking at a sleeping loved one.

Perhaps it's the protective side...

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by wchever

But the first thing I awake to in the morning is the face. Nothing quite like looking at a sleeping loved one.

Perhaps it's the protective side...

Wchever, Do you live with a lioness?

Posted by: wchever

I meant MY protective side...

No, Dear loulou, I am divorced and live alone when I do not have my children staying with me.

But I remember distinctly when my wife approached me after 11 years to explain that she had gotten married to me for the wrong reason; she wanted someone to take care of her.

If what the article is saying is that concern for future financial welfare is an important part of a Russian woman wanting to marry...big surprise! The same is true all over the world...

Posted by: lechef

loulou; I think you read to many romance novels as I find your questions to people post are a bit out their. How would you get the idea that wchever is lonely from his last post? And the PM you sent to me is right out of a broken romance novel as it pertains to the thought that I am out cheating on my wife and looking for some play on a RW.. I still do not know how in the world you figured that I was married and that I am seeking a toy in Russia due to my stupid wife.. Just bizarre that's all.

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by lechef
loulou; I think you read to many romance novels as I find your questions to people post are a bit out their. How would you get the idea that wchever is lonely from his last post? And the PM you sent to me is right out of a broken romance novel as it pertains to the thought that I am out cheating on my wife and looking for some play on a RW.. I still do not know how in the world you figured that I was married and that I am seeking a toy in Russia due to my stupid wife.. Just bizarre that's all.

lechef, you sound as a standard of pain in the neck

you seem nervous... hm...am I right?
And you didn't answer me where is your profile here ?

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by loulou
lechef, you sound as a standard of pain in the neck you seem nervous... hm...am I right?
And you didn't answer me where is your profile here ?

Some may say I am a pain in the ass. Nervous my dear is far from it. Nervous lol, please dear like I stated before nothing anyone here make any difference in anyone life so to say that a question make a difference it doesn't. We are here to get information form others experiences and share our own. You want my profile then do a search for my name and see what come up.. Again loulou you are wrong and you are starting to get annoying with your premonitions of knowing someone. To think you can figure out someone from a message board is ludicrous. If you want to see me look to your left and smile I am taking your picture.. Boo

Posted by: loulou

darling, I will be looking your profile a bit later. now I want to eat and in a hurry to my work. okay, i will call you my pain in the ass

Posted by: loulou

darling lechef, i will call you in Russian -- my hemoroy ( that is haemorrhoids) okay? just remember -- hemoroy. do you agree?

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by loulou
darling lechef, i will call you in Russian -- my hemoroy ( that is haemorrhoids) okay? just remember -- hemoroy. are you agree?

Hello I speak English . you can call me anything you like just do not call me late for dinner.

Posted by: loulou

darling, sometimes I need to work

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by loulou

darling, sometimes I need to work

As you should

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by lechef
As you should

have you got a job for me??

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by loulou
have you got a job for me??

I am in need of a good secretary with computer and people skills. I am also looking for a motivated and mechanically skilled apprentice electrician.

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally posted by alenika
<<< alenika is impatiently waiting for continuation?
Or you continued in private?

Hi alenika...

I did not see your asking!!! If you want to find out... PM me and i will tell you....

Posted by: Datco

I have read down this thread, and thought I would throw my dollars worth in.

It makes me laugh all the discussion about money and love and good looking or ugly.

I guess there are Russian women that would marry a really ugly man for money - but there are many American and British women that do that already - so no difference there - also many women marry good looking men that soon go to seed - my best friend did that - married a lovely looking women who was also a gorgeous person, and a few years later he is a fat lazy slob - which I guess he always was inside.

I'm not sure that the money thing is the biggest issue, it seems that many russian women pushing 30 want to find a man because if they don't they will end up on the shelf or a mistress.

They also would probably find the lifestyle of a moderately comfortable man in the west almost millionaire status compared to where they come from!

A house on the beach is nice, but might not be such a smart place to be if global warming continues and your house is 12 feet below sea level - sorry!

Posted by: inlove

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Originally posted by Datco
They also would probably find the lifestyle of a moderately comfortable man in the west almost millionaire status compared to where they come from!

You will be surpized. Not all russian women live in poverty. Most women you come accross have a pretty comfortable lifestyle themselves, some actually better than a lifestyle "of a moderately comfortable man in the west". And they are aware what is and is not a millionaire status..

Posted by: lechef

Wasn't their a gentleman here that had a problem with his new wife from Russia that he didn't make allot of money and when she came here she wanted him to buy her the things she was accustom to in Russia such as Gucci shoes and such. I think he was having a problem now due to he could not afford these things.

Posted by: Junior

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Originally posted by Datco
I have read down this thread, and thought I would throw my dollars worth in.
....
It makes me laugh all the discussion about money and love and good looking or ugly.
....

I too would like to throw in my $0.89 worth on this love-money discussion. It seems to me that compatibility, love, and trust for each other are most important. Money comes and money goes. So what, if you have a great paying job and a big bank account. These can be taken away from you very quickly. (Think of the late actor Christopher Reeve.)

Posted by: fly4fun

I'm a newbie on this board but from my limited experience in corresponding with ladies from Ukraine/Russian republic there seems to be a theme going in our correspondence.
That theme is "security"
Perhaps this theme is due to my age but I don't think so.

Yes, they want to find something in common with the person they are corresponding with but they also seem to want to know that there is some sense of security in this new future relationship.

I think the security angle is not just money related.. I'm probably not going to explain this very well but I get the feeling that they are very into knowing what the future will bring and that it will be something they can rely on.
This can take the form of love, financial stability, trust, faithful, and being a part of someones life ALL THE TIME.

The few I correspond with have all talked about their ex's not really being interested in family. How they often did not see them every day. How they took no interest in their own children. Also how the women had to take charge of managing the money they needed to live.

I have yet to meet one who was hurting for money in the poverty sense but all have said it seems to be on their heads to make the marriage work.

Is this accurate from other's viewpoint? Perhaps I'm reading them incorrectly?

Bob

Posted by: rattlesnake6979

One lady from Ukraine summed up the reasons why many couples split - and that was...... money or as she said " lack of money ". Make no mistake -men and women like and need money and the issue of a secure future is bound up with this very issue.

Rattle

Posted by: Pawel_PL.USA

Money was also THE reason why that Marine and the Kuwaiti princess he married split. The money went bye bye, there was no more $$ for nice things and so the wife went bye bye as well. It's not hard to find a woman, but isn't it extremely difficult to find a good woman ?

Posted by: alenika

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Originally posted by Texas Proud
Hi alenika...

I did not see your asking!!! If you want to find out... PM me and i will tell you....

noooo, if this is the secret only for pm, then I better reserve my curiousity

Posted by: loulou

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Originally posted by rattlesnake6979
One lady from Ukraine summed up the reasons why many couples split - and that was...... money or as she said " lack of money ". Make no mistake -men and women like and need money and the issue of a secure future is bound up with this very issue.

Rattle

people are unhappy when they are unsuccessful in career, when they are disability....etc. but lack of money is no the reason of divorces. I think Russian women which you were corresponding with say that because it's very difficult to say the real reason of divorce -- but "lack of money" lies on the surface.

as for my ex -- we were very happy without money. but getting older and earning a lot made us feel unhappier. what is the reason of our divorce? - my exhusband says to our friends -- lack of money. but I should say -- lack of love

as for divorces, I have my own vision on this problem -- I think mostly that depends on both people. If a person is developing, but another one is standing on the same level without any movement -- divorce is unavoidable.

Posted by: Pawel_PL.USA

I'm not going to get into details here, but some time before my lady and I met, she was married to an WASP American millionaire, and yet she divorced him - not out of lack of money, but because they guy turned out to be cocky, psychotic, extremely possesive, insecure and just not a real man.

So, believe it or not, money is not everything and sometimes a sane, normal Polish guy is just worth more than millions of dollars.