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Posted by: Datco

Hi guys

I think this girl could well be a scammer - she emailed me from the eastwestmatch website - now - now I am not exactly old and wrinkly, but this looks too good to be true and what usually looks too good to be true - turns out that way!! here is a link to her pictures - she is on the eastwestmatch website. http://www.geocities.com/t_fomenko/ her name is Tanya Fomenko

The worst thing about this is that you get so suspicious about everybody!!

What do you think - I have spoken to her on the phone, which i did not expect as scammers tend not to like that - but she might just be really good!

Posted by: Pawel_PL.USA

Face it - most of them are scammers. It comes with the Soviet blood.

Posted by: lechef

She or he is on at least three black list.. google the name and a bunch of things pop up on black list. Also I think she is a Russian movie star so I bet its Igor scamming you and his girl on the phone..

Posted by: lechef

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Originally posted by Pawel_PL.USA
Face it - most of them are scammers. It comes with the Soviet blood.

My Russian friends call it opportunist. They say Russians are the best opportunist the world has. They them selfs when the collapse of the Soviet union found their way here via the USA nuclear-science program. They are nuclear scientist.

Posted by: Virginiajoe

Man whoever she is,that is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen,is she a russian model? Man someone is happy if they actually know here!

Posted by: rattlesnake6979

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Man whoever she is,that is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen,

Beautiful is as beautiful does - IMHO a picture doesnt tell me much about her .

Rattle

Posted by: Pawel_PL.USA

Well, she's not that great, but everyone has a different taste.

Lechef, yes a lot of Soviets are scammers but I don't blame them personally. Socialism and it's constant deprivations and shortages made them that way and it is a true case where you actually can blame the system as opposed to the people themselves. I don't think you can even imagine how horrible it was under the Soviet occupation in that country and the people were trying to do whatever it took to evade the senseless system and try to survive. But wherever they learned it, they learned to be cynical, cold, opportunistic scammers that makes a lot of Westerners reconsider the notion of man as basically good by nature.

Posted by: Datco

\just an update that I thought you might like to know about - I went down a different tack to try and flush him/her out , and looked up flights to her city, and said I was going to book a flight, gave her(or him as the case might be) the flight numbers, date of travel and hotel i was going to book into.

Guess what happened next - she/he wrote back almost immediately, saying that she could never see herself living in a village (I live 10 minutes from Glasgow city centre!!!) as she was a city girl, and so it would never work!!,

I guess this is a pretty good way to out a scammer - but maybe I will end up as cynical as the Russians by doing this - and hey that might make me any Russian lady a better match, we can be cynical togehter!!!

Posted by: Pawel_PL.USA

Well, to match some of them you have to be as cynical as Beria and Stalin.

Posted by: CHIRO1

I have been corresponding with this tanya fomenko for quite some time, and have not had any suspicious activities on her part that she is a scammer. I've talked with her via phone several times for numerous hours, and nothing has ever come up about her wanting money, or anything of the such. If there is any solid evidence of her being a scammer, please let me know. Until then, good luck in your search for a woman.

Posted by: TanyaF

Hi Datco!
It's me -"scammer", Tanya Fomenko (or as other thinks big Russian man who is standing behind my back and force me to cheat Scottish gentlemen;-) If everybody knows my name, they should know your name too: DAVID ATKINSON
You have such a great discussion about me, but nobody from you can't even say that I asked anybody for money , or other things. So you can call me "SCAMMER" only because I disappeared in time you booked flights? OK, do you need some explanation?
Here we are:
If I feel that the man isn't right for me, I will never say to man that he is boring, old ...etc, to make him feel bad. Frankly speaking it wasn't only reason that you are living in village, but you are older then I am and quite boring. Yes, you are 41 and I am not 20 too, but I love guys who are the same age as I am, who is educated enough to be always gentlemen and to keep the highest level of their behavior towards people. Why are you lying that you don't live in village, but you are saying that you live 10 minutes from the center?
There are words from your letters to me:
1)"Where i live is in the countryside surrounded by lots of fields and trees - but the 2 big cities in Scotland are only 30 minutes away by car or train. If you came to live here you would need to have a car, as the public transport system in the uk is not very good ".
2)"I could no longer afford to buy a nice house in Glasgow or Edinburgh as the house prices were too high, "
3)"The thing to remember about where I live is that it is part of a mining industrial area, that no longer has mines or any industry, all the people now work in either Glasgow or Edinburgh but continue to live here as the property prices are lower."
...But anyway, it wasn't the main reason to broke up with you as I had said before already.....
Am I so bad and am I scammer? I don't think. But what I think I silly that had correspondence with thinking that you are normal, giving you advice to buy cheap card for international calls to safe money for you (I knew that you aren't rich)
..."I did not know about the international connection thing - i will need to look into that"-this is your words....
I was also silly to finish our correspondence before you book flights. As a real scammer i had to invite you here, ask you for shopping , money etc.... But as a normal person I felt that i am responsible that you will spend your money for tickets, hotel to stay and your wasted time and hopes. That's why I finished correspondence with you. Other guys are just appreciated for my honesty and wish me luck with somebody I have plan to meet, but not you. You were so offended by my refusal, so you have decided to call me "SCAMMER". DID I EVER ASKED YOU FOR MONEY? NOT!!! And you know it very good, you call me scammer only because of refusal.
SO...what the conclusion.....I understand that after my refusal your self-esteem came down...but...only looser can take unfair revenge on somebody only because he feels much better after it and his self-esteem grows after it.
That's easy to make the reputation of people bad, but it's much more difficult to do good things in life....
I think it's time for you apologize
Good luck
Tanya

Posted by: inlove

You go Girl! Bravo!

Posted by: lester

Sorry,
Couldn't resist this one!

Posted by: Kurt

Oh ohhhhh, Datko, you may have been a little too pre-mature to call Tanya a "scammer".

I would definately caution anyone labelling someone as a scammer.

Good luck in your search Tanya
Kurt

Posted by: lester

TanyaF,

Please check your date of birth, as entered in your profile.

January 1st. 1972 is written and that makes you 33 yrs.

You write that "I am not 20 too"

Possible mistake or mis-type?

Good Luck.

Posted by: inlove

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Originally posted by lester
TanyaF,

Please check your date of birth, as entered in your profile.

January 1st. 1972 is written and that makes you 33 yrs.

You write that "I am not 20 too"

Possible mistake or mis-type?

Good Luck.

And how do you, people, manage to meet somebody with such level of misunderstanding???

And how quick are you to jump to conclusions!.She is saying that she is NOT 20 either..

I'm just glad that somebody actually had the guts and the opportunity to defend herself..

Tanya, ty molodec! You go girl!!!

Posted by: AkMike

This is an interesting "who done it" !!!
We have 2 one post wonders saying one thing and another that might have streached the quite a bit.

"Let's get ready to rumble"

Posted by: Texas Proud

Tanya,

This is one that I will agree with inlove.. congratulations on defending yourself.. I am still open to who is completely telling the truth, but at least your story sounds very logical and truthful...

How did you find out that your name was on this site? Did someone tell you?

And I agree with some of the other guys... You are a very attractive woman... too bad I am one of those "old guys" that you are not interested in...

Good luck in your search

Texas Proud

Posted by: Datco

Ok Tanya,

you seem to have everyone on your side on this one, and maybe I am wrong - and if so i apologise for calling you a scammer - but there unfortunately is no doubt that if you do a google search on yourself - you will find that you are blacklisted a number of times.

There are hundreds of scammers out there who are to be honest very beautiful like you are, and something that seems to good to be true usually is.

It may be in the past that people have been upset by you not speaking to them or whatever - but there is usually no smoke without fire - as for my feelings being hurt by you not speaking to me anymore - after a couple of emails and a few phone calls i was hardly head over heels honey!

As for being boring - well it is all a matter of opinion i guess - you to be honest probably don't know me well enough to make that call - but I have been called worse!

As for distances - I drive to work in edinburgh every day and it takes 25 minutes, and Glasgow is 30 minutes - ok I don't live in a city - dont think I told you I ever did!

You will find I have not written to any site and called you a scammer - I only consulted the god people here ofr an opinion, which they gave me - if you read back over this thread you will see that.

As i said in my email to you, I hope you find what you are looking for, and wish you well in your search.

Posted by: elvis1

Hi Datco, From your location and Tanya's posting I guess that you are from the same area as myself.

I have to agree with Tanya on this as I have encountered a few scammers and one who was so convincing that I had to ask the guys here for help on it as I hadnt a clue until she gave me her address and through accident I found it to be blacklisted. To be honest she does not seem like any that I have met but I have not seen any of her letters to you. Mainly scammers will fall in love with you very quickly then they hit you for what they can get, the only time they have disappeared and not written again is when I have refused their requests for money. However i have written a couple of letters to very nice girls I am sure who have just stopped correspondence with me for whatever reasons they may have had, the same as I myself have done as I would just rather make a clean break than either be dishonest or hurt a girl's feelings.

On a more positive note me and my girlfriend fell very quickly for each other and being honest now and looking back I think that we both knew from the first 2 emails. This other girl I also liked but never in the way I did Elena but I followed the advice of writing to several girls which was around 20 but very quickly went to only 2 and even when I had my deepest doubts I asked for help before calling her a scammer. All I can say about this episode is whilst I liked her I liked Elena more but I wanted to find out her intentions as quite frankly now with hindsight I didnt trust her and was curious and was a typical guy falling for the pretty pictures. Now I realise it was time wasted on her I could have better spent on Elena. I can say this now as me and Elena talk every day thru email and phone and we are both desperate to meet each other although I am realistic enough to know that this will be the big test in our relationship but I do in my heart know that it will just be the icing on the cake as we both knew what we wanted and were totally honest from the start and we both know that we have found it.

It is all a learning experience and I hope that I have helped you with my reply.

Andrew

Posted by: TanyaF

....So David, no smoke without fire , you think?...of course what else you can say. You are saying that you didn't call me a scammer? What is the name of this paragraph?
"General Relationship Discussions" ,"Scammer"...and you wrote about me in this paragraph.....
Maybe somebody before put my name somewhere else (if you know where, maybe you can say), but nobody can say that I asked money or something else.....Probably there are plenty of men who love complaining and spend their time sitting in front of computer writing bad things instead of having real relationship and make them work....
But fortunatelly there are many great men and I recently found the person who I want to meet. It was him who found me in paragraph "scammer" of this website and I truly apreciated him for his moral support this days.
OK< fine you apologize, but wil my name be here in this paragraph? Probably yes, because moderators don't delete any letters. Fortunatelly the person i a going to meet understands the situation very good...but there is can be achance that because of you i could lose somebody important for me.

Anyway thanks for your replay and I think you'll be more carefull to blame other girls until you know definetly the serious reason.
I truly wish you to find your half in this life and truly hope that if you were bad towards me , it was just bad period of your life and you have more kind heart.
Good luck
Tanya
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p.s. Thanks for other people who gave me moral support , it's very importnat in situation like this.
Comment to somebody who thinks that I did a mistake about my age, I am really 33...What usually women aren't good looking at the same age?ha-ha ...It's Ukraine;-)
Comment about comparrison Stalin and me...I was just smiling, because the knowledge of this person is quite poor, I am living in modern Ukraine and my hero is Yshenko....Stalin and beria had different direction in life and to talk about them is quite old-fashioned;-)
I don't think i'll pay attention to this website any more.Thanks everybody again and good luck in your search of LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Datco
Ok Tanya,

you seem to have everyone on your side on this one, and maybe I am wrong - and if so i apologise for calling you a scammer - but there unfortunately is no doubt that if you do a google search on yourself - you will find that you are blacklisted a number of times.

There are hundreds of scammers out there who are to be honest very beautiful like you are, and something that seems to good to be true usually is.

It may be in the past that people have been upset by you not speaking to them or whatever - but there is usually no smoke without fire - as for my feelings being hurt by you not speaking to me anymore - after a couple of emails and a few phone calls i was hardly head over heels honey!

As for being boring - well it is all a matter of opinion i guess - you to be honest probably don't know me well enough to make that call - but I have been called worse!

As for distances - I drive to work in edinburgh every day and it takes 25 minutes, and Glasgow is 30 minutes - ok I don't live in a city - dont think I told you I ever did!

You will find I have not written to any site and called you a scammer - I only consulted the god people here ofr an opinion, which they gave me - if you read back over this thread you will see that.

As i said in my email to you, I hope you find what you are looking for, and wish you well in your search.

Posted by: AkMike

Tanya, I admire the way you handled this. Well, done!
But I have a question. What is the reason that he says your name is associated with scams in a google search. Other mis -understandings?
I'm not slamming you in any way... Just curious.
Mike

Posted by: CHIRO1

Mike:

If you pull up a google search on tanya, a lot of playwrites come up as well as this Datco's "short man syndrome with a revenge" letter about her. I've researched this for Tanya, and have found nothing so far about her being on any blacklists.

Posted by: Clarita

Well, sometimes it is enough for a woman that one man lists her in revenge of being declined in ONE list after what all others will repeat this info in others lists. Some men spend lot of hours sitting in internet "hunting" russian scammers. Fortunatelly now we have special our women's forum www.antidate.org/forum - so women now have possibility to report all sex-abusers, maniacs and paranoics there.

By the way, is diffamation a crime in your countries?

Posted by: inlove

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you seem to have everyone on your side on this one, and maybe I am wrong - and if so i apologise for calling you a scammer - but there unfortunately is no doubt that if you do a google search on yourself - you will find that you are blacklisted a number of times.

Just out of curiosity, I've googled Tanya's name and nothing comes up.. So.. Unless you can provide direct links to the blacklists with her name on it, please stop talking nonsense.

Posted by: CHIRO1

DATCO,

Please read the response under the thread tanya!!

Posted by: rattlesnake6979

Datco- er what have we here ? If the lady has not asked you for money why calll her a scammer ?

I hate to say this but this is just desserts .............

rattle

Posted by: FlashingEyes

ok in the interest of truth here only and not taking any sides...

I ran an Internet search on the name "Tanya Fomenko"

The first entry showed Tanya listed on a dating agency site:

Tanya Fomenko Ukraine Dnipropetrovs"k bride pictures and photos in dedicated 2-brides.com project.
http://www.2-brides.com/bride/tanya...7965/pictures/5

The second entry showed Tanya on a blacklist:

russian girls who are scam artists
Passion from Barnaul Passion.JPG. Tanya Fomenko from Dnepropetrovsk Tanya_fomenko.JPG. Tanya Fomenko from Riga? tanya_from_riga.JPG...
comunidades.msn.es/russiangirlswhoarescamartists/dubiousprofiles....

When I tried to go to this website however it was NO LONGER AVAILABLE! So while something did come up, I'm not sure if it was valid or not.

Further down the list of hits, I found the following additional entry:

russian girls who are scam artists
...russian anti-scam agencies (NO SUCH THING) ... Tanya Fomenko from Dnepropetrovsk Tanya_fomenko.JPG. Tanya Fomenko from Riga? ...
http://www.communities.ninemsn.com....artists/dubi...

I tried to look at this link but it is blocked from my work, so I have to wait till I get home to check it.

My conclusion is that her name is in fact associated with scam lists on an Internet search, but how valid these lists are is uncertain. These both appear to be free, msn provided sites, so almost anyone could have listed her on these sites. Neither site is run by a reputable agency to my knowledge.

Posted by: Clarita

This msn group was absolutelly suspicious and I hope it will not be reopen.