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Valentines day

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Posted by: lechef

Do they honor this Holiday like in America and if so, if you have just recently been communicating to a lady is it being to forward to send flowers to them on this day?



Posted by: Jill

In general, I'd say yes and yes. They've only really started celebrating it in the last few years, but it is heavily advertised now, so it is fairly well known.



Posted by: lechef

So Jill you are saying not to send flowers on Valentine day this early in our conversations? I was asking because I think all women like flowers and if they are single and looking for the same, the I thought it would be a nice gesture to give them.



Posted by: Jill

Oops...Misspoke. I meant, yes, if you like the woman, go ahead and send the flowers



Posted by: lechef

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Oops...Misspoke. I meant, yes, if you like the woman, go ahead and send the flowers
I mean it is too soon to know if you like them. Yes I find one in particular interesting but to say I am in love is just way to soon to know. As I stated to Conner I was only thinking of being nice to them as friends right now and sending flowers to a single woman on valentines day who may be lonely would bring a smile to a face that may not have a smile that day.



Posted by: Jill

Yes, she will probably like it (if she likes you ). But do keep in mind that it is essentially a romantic gesture, so if romance is not yet in the plans, you may want to hold off--otherwise she may get the wrong idea.



Posted by: lechef

Quote:
Originally posted by Jill
Yes, she will probably like it (if she likes you ). But do keep in mind that it is essentially a romantic gesture, so if romance is not yet in the plans, you may want to hold off--otherwise she may get the wrong idea.
Good idea thanks for the female incite..



Posted by: Texas Proud

Quote:
Originally posted by lechef
Good idea thanks for the female incite..



Isn't it nice to have Jill on the board





Posted by: rtking

Quote:
Originally posted by Texas Proud
Isn't it nice to have Jill on the board



Without a doubt! I really enjoy the input from our female forum members. It brings a lot to the forums to see a balanced discussion!

Bob



Posted by: povlhp

My R-GF sent me a Valentines postcard, where she told me it is a new holiday, which has been celebrated like 10 years. The same goes here in Denmark, where it is only slightly older, and considered an american Florists marketing gimmick.



Posted by: Leprechaun

NAH, i say boot all our women members, they only cause trouble & strife and are a bunch of feminists. they should only be allowed to post on womens day, heheheheh

More women on forums please!!!!

Lechef, If you want to wait another month its womans day in Russia on March 8th and thats really when they appreciate the flowers,

Womens day, valentines day, birthday, wedding annivesary, our christmas, your new year
Jeeeez girls are there enough day in the year for you to be showered with gifts and flowers? hehehehe

Last year on Womens Day I sent flowers to herself, along with a single rose to her mum, sister & 2 tasty cakes....... my thoughtfulness was greatly appreciated and I think thats when her family knew their daughter was in the hands of a guy that was going to treat her right.

;o)



Posted by: Jill

Yeah, Lep has a good point.

Here's what I would do: send an e-card today for Valentine's day (that is simply a friendly gesture--make sure it is not overly romantic, though), and then if you are still writing to her come March 8th, send out the flowers. You will know her a little better by then, and this is really the much bigger holiday in Russia



Posted by: Leprechaun

Happy Valentines Day Jill

x

Guess who



Posted by: Jill

You too, Lep!



Posted by: Jill

Now where is lester with one of his infamous holiday postcards?



Posted by: Leprechaun

LOL, he showed me the one he would like to send but i dont think it was very fitting lol,
though knowing lester he will probably will

ROFL



Posted by: Jill

This article should get you in the Valentine's Day mood

Quote:
Saudis defy Valentine's Day ban
Monday, February 14, 2005 Posted: 0011 GMT (0811 HKT)


RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- The Saudi woman, swathed in black with only her eyes showing, circled a huge, red teddy bear, wondering if the plastic flowers stuck in the crook of its arm were too tacky.

She wanted this Valentine's Day to be perfect. She ordered 100 red roses to be delivered to her husband of a few weeks, bought him the largest-size bar of his favorite chocolate and planned to surprise him with a dinner party at her parents' house.

But there was one hitch: She had made the plans for February 12, thinking that was the day the rest of the world marked Valentine's.

Her confusion was not a surprise in a country where Valentine's Day is prohibited and religious authorities confiscate red items from gift stores and call the occasion a Christian celebration true Muslims should shun.

The woman, like others interviewed for this story, knew she was flirting with the law and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The kingdom's attitude toward Valentine's Day is in line with the strict school of Islam followed by the kingdom for a century.

Like Valentine's Day, all Christian and even most Muslim feasts are banned in the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, because they're considered an unorthodox creation Islam doesn't sanction.

Beyond the ban, it's a challenge for couples to be together on Valentine's or any other day because of strict segregation of the sexes. Dating consists of long phone conversations and the rare tryst.

Men and women cannot go for a drive together, have a meal or talk on the street unless they are close relatives. Infractions are punished by detentions.

The muttawa, or religious police, mobilize a few days before February 14, making the rounds of gift and flower shops. As February 14 approaches, the flush of red fades.

Every heart, every rose and every item that's red or that suggests love and romance descends underground, to the black market, where its price triples and quadruples. Red flowers are hidden in back rooms.

Sheik Ibrahim al-Ghaith, chief of the 5,000-man religious police, told Al-Hayat newspaper his men were "acting upon instructions to confiscate manifestations" of Valentine's Day, birthdays and other celebrations.

"The feast of love is based on love and passion and things that are not proper for a Muslim to respond to," he told the paper.

Salesmen and waiters avoid wearing red; entrepreneurs whose stores maintain a red hue risk days in jail.

In religious lectures at schools, teachers and administrators warn students against marking the occasion, noting Saint Valentine was a Christian priest, according to an educational supervisor, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Saint Valentine is believed to have been a 3rd-century martyred Roman priest or bishop.

Why the holiday became a celebration of lovers isn't clear, but the theories are it stemmed from his February 14 feast date falling close to a pagan love festival or that it was because mid-February was seen in Europe as the time of year when birds start mating.

The supervisor said that on Valentine's Day last year girls lining up for daily morning prayer were inspected from head to toe by teachers looking for violations of rules that ban wearing or carrying any red item on the day.

Ribbons, boots, jackets, bags and pen holders with a hint, stripe or pattern in red, burgundy and hot pink were thrown into a heap, and the school called the girls' mothers to pick up the offensive items, the supervisor said.

Badr al-Buraidi, assistant to the head of the religious awareness department at a hospital, told Al-Eqtisadiah newspaper people have to be "persuaded that foreigners do not mark (Muslim feasts)."

"Why should we celebrate their feasts?" he was quoted as saying.

Despite the restrictions, Valentine's Day has caught on, partly due to satellite TV, where the occasion, like other holidays, is worked into the course of a series.

Shops call ahead
Shoppers who know where to look can find plenty of Valentine gifts: hearts that make kissing sounds and say "I love you" when squeezed, white teddy bears sitting on a red heart, lips touching, elaborate gift arrangements with "beating" hearts fitted with blinking lights and baskets of plastic red fruits.

Lingerie stores have rows of red, lacy lingerie, with one shop displaying a sheer negligee and the picture of a heart next to it.

In most cases, the gifts are not presented on Valentine's Day. A woman may not get permission from her parents to go out that night, and stores don't want to be saddled with the incriminating items when the muttawa begin making their rounds.

Shops either deliver the gifts or call recipients a few days early and ask them to pick up their presents.

Asked how long he planned to keep the gift items on display, one salesman said: "Until there's a change in the situation," referring to a possible muttawa raid.

Restaurants also are warned against creating a Valentine's atmosphere. One waiter, looking at his red apron and red placement mats, said he worried what the muttawa's reaction would be if they dropped by on Valentine's.

At the store, the Saudi woman said that because she was aware of the difficulties, she had ordered the 100 roses a week in advance.

Asked if she still wanted to mark the occasion February 12, she said: "Yes. I can't wait two more days."






Posted by: lester

I did ask Khashyar to post this anonymously,
but he is very busy.



Posted by: mtbclay

lechef

Perhaps International Woman's day would be a better opportunity to send flowers since you have just begun communication. I think this is a day of recognition and appreciation of women and less of a romantic day (in comparison to Valentine's Day that is). You could then send a message of appreciation instead of being overly romantic in a new relationship. Plus March 8 is the big one! Just me 2 cents.

Clay



Posted by: BradIL

Quote:
Originally posted by mtbclay: Perhaps International Woman's day would be a better opportunity to send flowers since you have just begun communication.


Clay thanks for confirming my plans. I've just started writing a lovely in Tver, Russia. Lots of flirting (which is perfect for me) so I sent her a nice plea asking her to be my Valentine. Nothing required of her, just to say I had one. She sent a reply that positively caused me to shine like a christmas tree. She really likes Valentines Day, but I agree with Jill & Clay that March 8 still rules all, and this lovely assures me that Valentines Day is a big hit with her & all her friends. She believes the day will become even more popular in the future.



Posted by: BradIL

Quote:
Originally posted by mtbclay: Perhaps International Woman's day would be a better opportunity to send flowers since you have just begun communication.


Clay thanks for confirming my plans. I've just started writing a lovely in Tver, Russia. Lots of flirting (which is perfect for me) so I sent her a nice plea asking her to be my Valentine. Nothing required of her, just to say I had one. She sent a reply that positively caused me to shine like a christmas tree. She really likes Valentines Day, but I agree with Jill & Clay that March 8 still rules all, but this lovely assures me that Valentines Day is a big hit with her & all her friends. She believes the day will become even more popular in the future.



Posted by: mtbclay

Brad,

It is good hear that you have one in the works.
Good luck!

Clay



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