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Posted by: rjmack2249

Hi all, I need some help from you experienced guys...I am a newbie at this... I have been in contact with who seems to be a very nice young lady, who says she lives in Osmk, Russia... She so for has met all the symptoms of a scammer, but has not asked for money yet..Also her name is on the Blacklist but, not with the same address or photos..She gave me her address after several request. She said it was in Omsk, but she did not giv me her postal code. After requesting the postal code, with the hint of sending her a gift, she gave me 424016...But, this code does not seem to be to Osmk...everting that I have read with a Osmk postal code on it is 644---...here is the question, does anyone know what city the postal code 424016 is too, and or how could I find out....?????Oh! she gave her name as Svetlana Antonova, on Petrov's Street, Osmk Russia
Thanks for your help!!!!

Posted by: lester

surely a mis-spelling!

Omsk 424016

on google there are entries for that area code.

Plus this!

Svetlana Antonova Russia Kirov Lunacharskii st. house 89, apartment 23

http://www.roses.ru/blacklist.shtml?search=antonova

Coincidence?

Posted by: Leprechaun

yep, spot on

always knew you had a Ms Marple in you.

Posted by: lester

Had a few lessons, ain't I miss!

Posted by: Leprechaun

guitar lessons?

Posted by: lester

Nope,
Only quite a few with the " Celestial Banjo "!!

Posted by: Leprechaun

That took only 24 mins from 1st post to cover blown.

quite amazing.

Posted by: lester

Maybe another one for the book of Guinness records!

Posted by: Leprechaun

Another one you say? yes please, whos buying? rjmack2249 is buying now that he doesnt have to spend money on a gift.

Posted by: lester

Dats true sorrr

Posted by: Lola

Quote:

Originally posted by lester

Svetlana Antonova Russia Kirov Lunacharskii st. house 89, apartment 23

http://www.roses.ru/blacklist.shtml?search=antonova

Coincidence?

Hey, ask your wives what do they think how much women whos name is Svetlanāa Antonova live in Russia?
I suppose as much as the men whos name John Smith live in USA
Look here it is search for Svetlana Antonova in google... there is 20 600 items... so what? do you think this is all about your Svetlana Antonova?

Svetlana Antonova

Posted by: Leprechaun

Read the post properly!!!!

Svetlana Antonova Russia Kirov
OK so there are millions!!!!

but only one
Lunacharskii st. house 89, apartment 23

and it was a scam.

Posted by: Lola

Quote:

Originally posted by Leprechaun
Read the post properly!!!!

Svetlana Antonova Russia Kirov
OK so there are millions!!!!

but only one
Lunacharskii st. house 89, apartment 23

and it was a scam.

aha but Svetlana Antonove from first post is from Omsk, as I understood this

Posted by: Leprechaun

oh yeah, missed that or was it the wine?

Posted by: Leprechaun

Russia Cheboksary XXX Klary-Tsetkin Street, Flat XX 424016

thats the only one I could find and it was a Scam.

Posted by: rjmack2249

The problem gang is this, Ms.Antonova tells me that she lives in Omsk, Russia...But the Postal code of 424016, did not seem right for Omsk, Russia... The Postal codes for Omsk, run like 644000...
I have now found out that the postal code of 424016 is in Yoshkar-Ola. what I was asking was does anyone know this postal code, and or is there and english version of a way to check the postal codes, for Russia..
Thanks gang I do appreciate your help!!!]
RJ...

Posted by: Leprechaun

Thats right those are the codes.

Post an example of her letter that makes alarm bells ring.
people here will be able to tell you more then also.

Posted by: Leprechaun

do ya want me to try and trace the email to where it originates from?

http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...=&threadid=3533

Posted by: rjmack2249

thanks for the info I will see if I can post the e-mails... I don't have the first one but it was her letting me know she found me in a Personals..once again thanks for varification..of my suspicisions...
RJ

Posted by: rjmack2249

Hello all, You know it seems to me that we men who seem to be the ones getting scamed should have a place we could go to check out these addresses without having to pay lage amounts of money to send a gift or floweres... For example, I got my info on the Postal Zip Code, by contacting a florist who was nice enough to tell me where that zip code was... I still plan to set up a small gift with photo to see who accepts the gift...but thats later, I plan to toy with her awhile...She just has not hit me up for money. yet.. See a woman could tell us anything inregards to an address.. Like Svetlana saying she Lives in Omsk, but her address is in Yoshkar-Ola.. How would we know...And if you send a letter, the post office will go to the zip code first, then the city...I just think their ought to be a site we can check theses addresses...
RJ

Posted by: wavetossed

Simple!

Go to this page http://info.russianpost.ru/servlet/department

Plug in the zip code in the second section after clicking the radio button and then click on Pokazat'. If you try it with your example, it will indeed show up as Yoshkar-Ola 16.

And if you can't handle the Cyrillic, then hang your head in shame. Head out to the nearest big bookstore and find a beginning Russian book. For crying out loud, it's only 33 letters. And you will need to know it if you don't want to be an ignorant illiterate peasant when you visit Russia.

Posted by: rjmack2249

Wavetossed:
I understand by your profile that you have been at this for a lot longer time than me.. And yes, If i was planning on atrip to Russia the first thing on my list would be to learn some basic Russian, but this is not the case, I have a woman, maybe, from Russia, sending me e-mails in English proffessing her undieing love for me.. Now I can spend a whole lot of time trying to translate some Russian , or I can spend a whole lot of time determing if she is trying to run a scam or not....I would love it if the russian women we come into contact with, never ran scams, but, they do...instead of showing how superior your are, by your knowlrdge of Russian, a simple note of your help and a thought about where this information might be in English to help out us poor dumb English only speaking idots, and peasants would be more appropriate...
your great wisdom and thought was much appreciated...
R.J>

Posted by: Jill

RJ, I do think that wavetossed was trying to help you by giving what he believes to be good advice. Frankly, I consider it to be very good advice as well. I realize that you are new at this and are still learning your way through it, but if you have serious intentions of pursuing a relationship with a woman from the FSU, it makes sense to take the time to learn at least the basics of the language. And a surprising number of guys never bother!

Now, I realize that this is not an immediate issue for you--as you say, your first step is to determine whether of not this woman is sincere. Some knowledge of the language (or at least the alphabet) may be of use to you in trying to track down the additional information that you need. Wavetossed has given you a good example of this.

And, in general, I think the more you know about the language and culture, the less likely you will be to fall victim to a scam. As they say, knoweldge is power

As for planning a trip to Russia--again, if you are interested in pursuing a relationship with a Russian woman (whether this particular woman, or another one), this is something you will need to do sooner or later. May as well get a head start now

Good luck to you

Posted by: FlashingEyes

I don't agree that it's a "blanket statement" good idea to learn Russian/Ukrainian/Polish or whatever other languages your particular FSU woman happens to speak.

*If* you are a person who is good with languages (typically people who are able to sing, because they have a better ability to recognize and emulate tones than the rest of the people), or *if* you have some pressing need to learn the language (such as in Jill's case you are planning to live in the region), then YES, it is probably a good idea to learn languages.

But anyone with a modicum of creativity and intelligence probably recognizes that there are many valid paths to any given goal, and plenty of the paths to a happy and healthy marriage to an FSU woman do not include any need to learn her languages.

For instance, if you are the kind of person who is poor at languages but strong at logical learning (math, sciences, theory-based learning, factual-study based learning) then your best bet is probably to focus on studying the wealth of information out there about the FSU and women from the FSU that you will be able to learn according to your strengths. The amount of information that can be learned is so vast, that there is no need to try to follow someone else's formula of what they learned - maybe one guy learned the language better than you did - and therefore calls you a peasant in his self-conceited, short-sighted way, but you learned much more about the history, culture, and people.

Maybe the woman you are writing already speaks English so well that you communicate wonderfully and complexly already, and you want to spend your time learning things that will contribute more to your relationship than learning her other languages, since this exercise will not assist you in communicating with her and maybe from the way you learn you can learn a great deal more about her by spending your time studying something other than a language she never speaks to you and has no particular desire to speak to you (but will out of kindness, if in your vanity or some mad competitive urge that she should not know more languages than you do, you insist on learning it anyway so you can stutter a few words and claim you speak Russian). Maybe you are the kind of person who will understand more about your lady in one deep English conversation than another guy here will understand in a year of conversations in English and his glorious Russian, which in his mind elevates him above the peasants and makes him, therefore, a lord.

Then again maybe you will do things your way despite what some superioristic, arrogant person or people say to you that you should do, and your woman will appreciate that you are your own man, and not like the boring, superioristic, arrogant personalities that brew in England and Canada and places like that because really a lot of people from these countries like a lot of people from all European or non-USA countries in the Americas, have deep-seeded inferiority complexes towards the United States and its citizens, and therefore respond with superioristic, arrogant attitudes and take every chance to stab at Americans. We recognize these people for what they are, and pity them. And their women recognize these people for what they are and pity them and themselves, and wish that they had met an American such as yourself who is his own man and may learn Russian if he wants to, or may not if he doesn't want to, but mostly who makes his choices according to what he believes is the best course of action, and not what some wanna-be, inferiority-complex driven, foreigner berates that he should do, calling him a peasant.

Posted by: rjmack2249

thank you Flashing eyes, my point exactly.....
RJ

Posted by: Jill

I don't know, I still think that if you travel to another country (as you eventually will if you decide to pursue a relationship with a woman from a foreign country), you should take the time to learn a bit of the language. First of all, out of respect for the culture and its people (ever read "The Ugly American?"). Second, it sure does help when trying to get around or get something done. Otherwise you will be largely dependent on others, some of whom may take advantage of that (it is very common in the FSU for non-Russian speaking foreignors to be cheated right and left).

Similarly, by learning Russian you will have access to more information that may be useful and necessary for you, such as Russian language websites that contain postal codes

; also information on culture, history, society, and politics written by locals, not foreignors who have interpreted it though their own non-native filter (I think it's good to get both perspectives).

Also, Russian is a beautiful language and many Russians feel an almost spiritual connection to it. Don't laugh--it's true! There are many who feel that the Russian language is inherently linked to who they are. And it is generally very appreciated when a foreignor takes the time to try to learn it.

And, really, isn't it only fair? She learned your language, why not learn hers?

Well, it's your call, of course. But personally, I think it NEVER hurts to acquire a new language, especially if you are considering becoming involved in a certain part of the world (e.g. by marrying into it).

Cheers!

Jill

Posted by: rjmack2249

dear ms jill
I am not sure that you get the jest of the issue... I never said I was not going to , if needed, learn some russian...I will do that "if" i continue with the looking for a partner in another country... and yes to you about the respect of another person's country... but for him to get on his throne and call me a ignorant peasant is not the way to offer help and advise, especially in a forum atmosphere that is set up to share information to help each other...Not to be lectured by the Kingly from his throne...Less you forget, It is the women contacting me in English, to run a scam on me to get American dollars, printed in English, to steal the feelings of one in English... I was asking for info, to help varify this scamer, who was lieing to me in English...if there was a source of info in English, to check out her information, which speeds up the process....By the way for your information, the reconized international language, is you guessed it "English", that is so all us peasants of the world can do business, internationally!!!
I do agree with your opinion though Jill just not in this case!!
Thankyou for the feedback, and if I pursue my goal past varification, I will be looking to learn some Russian, for her and the respect of her counrty...

Posted by: Junior

I have read that the language learning software by RosettaStone is suppose to be very good. Does anyone have any experience with using this software?

Posted by: Jill

Well, as for the "peasant" comment--I think that was just sort of an off hand remark. Obviously he didn't mean it literally--after all, until the 20th century, 90% of the Russian population was peasantry. And they all spoke fluent Russian

Quote:

I have read that the language learning software by RosettaStone is suppose to be very good. Does anyone have any experience with using this software?

I've never used it myself, but I have heard good things about it.