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for a woman of 44....yow-za, yow-za, yow-za!!!| said she has an agreement with yushchenko to become the next ukrainian prime minister... |
I think he will pick Yulka, though. | what a classic russian beauty!!! |
| Julia Tymoshenko is not the great champion of the Ukrainian opposition that she tries to present herself as. She is as much an insider as Juschneko |
So it's hard to say she's one of "the people." But she is the opposition--no love lost between her and Kuchma. Hey, he even had her arrested a while back.
| maybe the orange revolution is a case of one group of S.O.B.'s trying to replace the another group of S.O.B.'s?? |
| This is not "oppositon", |
| Juschenko's invocation of Khmelnitskiy and his legacy ought to be a warning. |
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Poroshenko for prime minister Jan 13, 00:53 Barring any special shenanigans on his opponents’ part, Viktor Yushchenko should shortly become president. But who will be his prime minister? “Yulia Tymoshenko,” sings the chorus. The idea is obvious, and appealing. Tymoshenko is, after all, Tymoshenko: the most galvanizing figure the opposition has, a charismatic firebrand without whom the Orange Revolution might not have been what it was. Were we choosing only with our hearts, and not our heads, we’d choose her. The energetic leader could be effective in ramming through reforms in the short window period the Yushchenko administration will have, and she’d be strong in consolidating the administration’s power. Still, our heads tell us she’s not the best choice under the circumstances. She’s a divisive figure who might spend a lot of her energy fending off attacks from enemies who want to get her, which would be bad for Yushchenko and the country. Her reputation as Ukraine’s “gas queen” and crony of corrupt former Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko precedes her with regional leaders who are looking for ways to take her down a peg. Her husband is wanted by Interpol, and it’s an open question whether she can travel to Russia without being arrested. We’d rather see her as a deputy prime minister, in charge of reforming some vitally important sector – like energy, come to think of it. As for Oleksandr Moroz, we can’t see it. Appointing this warhorse to the premiership would be to undermine the spirit of rejuvenation that attends Yushchenko’s presidency. The Socialist leader isn’t the worst of Ukraine’s political bosses, but he’s a compromised man. He’s no liberal, being against land privatization. And his party’s association with the newspaper Silski Visti, which has attracted allegations of anti-Semitism, is regrettable. In the end, as much as it pains us to pass over Tymoshenko, we endorse tycoon, parliament deputy, and Our Ukraine financial backer Petro Poroshenko for prime minister. For one thing, whatever business he’s been up to over the years, he lacks Tymoshenko’s compromising past. As a so-called “oligarch” himself, Poroshenko will be able to influence Ukraine’s power class in a way the combative Tymoshenko could not. His membership in the Rada’s budget committee indicates that he knows how to work within the system. Poroshenko, who speaks good English, is a compromise figure, a committed Orange Revolutionary who risked a lot by backing Yushchenko, but who can do business with the other side in a way Tymoshenko can’t. That might be what Yushchenko and Ukraine need right now. There is one caveat, however, and it’s that Poroshenko has to take some radical measures to clean up his act fast. If we’re truly facing a new era in Ukrainian politics, then he has to make his financial dealings as transparent as possible. He has to maintain a strict division between his government position and his lucrative businesses. He has to become cleaner than clean – immediately. Most importantly, he must sell Channel 5, the television channel that during the Orange Revolution turned from a relatively objective news source into a fountain of opposition propaganda. Ukraine, on top of everything else, does not need a Silvio Berlusconi. If Poroshenko takes these steps, he’ll be more effective than Tymoshenko. If he doesn’t, he’ll be a millwheel on Yushchenko’s leg, and will deserve all the opposition we can muster. |
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CHARISMATIC TYMOSHENKO SAYS SHE WILL BE UKRAINE PM By Ron Popeski, Reuters, Kiev, Ukraine, Sat, January 15, 2005 KIEV (Reuters) - Opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, who roused vast crowds during protests against election fraud, said on Saturday she believed she would be named prime minister once Viktor Yushchenko is finally inaugurated as president. Yushchenko, winner of last month's re-run of November's rigged presidential election, must weather a last legal challenge from loser Viktor Yanukovich before taking office. The Supreme Court is to examine Yanukovich's case on Monday, but the ex-premier said he has little chance of overturning the result. Tymoshenko, 44, is seen as one of several possible candidates to take over government and begin implementing Yushchenko's agenda of cleaning up the ex-Soviet state's business affairs and moving closer to the West. She said she believed her candidature would be put forward under an election pact she and Yushchenko struck last June. "We concluded a formal agreement when we created our coalition, setting down our relations if we took power jointly," Tymoshenko, her blonde hair tied in a traditional Ukrainian braid, told a news conference. "There is no ambiguity in this. It is all clearly written down in terms of the job of prime minister." Asked whose name appeared in the accord, which reporters said they had notseen, she said: "I'll give you three guesses. "I believe Viktor Andriyevich Yushchenko is an honest, moral politician and do not believe he will start by breaking a coalition agreement. GAS PRINCESS Known as the "gas princess" for her good looks and success in the energy business, she said her chances of being approved by parliament if nominated were "100 percent". Yushchenko, a former prime minister, has accused Yanukovich of "torturing the nation" by persistently challenging the Dec. 26 vote. His staff hope to stage a grand inauguration which Tymoshenko said was likely to take place next Wednesday. Yushchenko told an interviewer last month the coalition deal called for Tymoshenko's name to be put forward, but said a decision was subject to negotiation. Hugely popular among nationalists, Tymoshenko is viewed with distrust by neighbouring Russia and it is uncertain she could muster sufficient support in parliament. Her group controls 20 seats compared to about 100 for Yushchenko's Our Ukraine group. Also viewed as a strong candidate is businessman Petro Poroshenko, a close aide of Yushchenko in Our Ukraine and head of parliament's budget committee. Others include two of the president-elect's campaign allies, Socialist Party leader Oleksander Moroz and technocrat Anatoly Kinakh. Tymoshenko served as deputy prime minister while Yushchenko was head of government but was fired by President Leonid Kuchma, now leaving office after 10 years in power. Charges of forgery and smuggling gas were brought against her in connection with her activities at the head of a private gas trading firm in the mid-1990s and an arrest warrant has been issued for her in Russia. She denounces the probes as baseless. |
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"TYMOSHENKO FOR PRIME MINISTER" COMMENTARY: By Bishop Paul Peter Jesep The Action Ukraine Report, Kyiv, Ukraine, Monday, Jan 17, 2005 Yulia Tymoshenko, parliamentarian head of Batkivshchyna (Motherland), deserves to be Ukraine's next prime minister. Her leadership, deft political skill, loyalty to Viktor Yushchenko and unquestioned commitment to the country's emerging national consciousness makes Yulia the logical choice. She is also one of the best safeguards against a Moscow backed plot should Yushchenko's health falter. No one should think that the Kremlin has given up looking for opportunities to orchestrate another political coup. Ukraine must not only plan for the present, but even more important, it must strategize for the long-term. Vladimir Putin's apparent willingness to work with President-elect Yushchenko means little. This may be nothing more than a Kremlin wait and see ploy hoping for political vulnerability. Putin's patience is not an indication that Moscow has accepted a sovereign "Little Russia." Yulia has been one of the most spirited Ukrainian patriots who has no illusions about the political mentality of the northern neighbor. Tymoshenko, educated as an economist-cyberneticist, has the tigress intellect to manage any potential threat. As a business leader she has been lauded as one of Eastern Europe's best crisis managers. In a January 2005 commentary in the Moscow Times, Yulia made it very clear that there is a difference between the Russian people and the bureaucrats, political spin doctors and entrepreneurial oligarchs to the north who would suffocate the Ukrainian soul. She wants to foster a relationship with the Russian people. No one can dispute that Ukraine is linked with Russia, albeit a distinct and separate member of the Eastern Slavic family. Exploring this relationship with a cousin also means that she is attempting to foster liberty to family members who are slowly losing it. A democratic Russia benefits Ukraine. Currently, some Kremlin politicians and elements within Christian Orthodoxy are embracing anti-democratic tendencies that will ultimately hurt the Russian people. No one should forget Yulia's fiery eloquence that rallied tens of thousands of demonstrators in Kyiv which maintained populist pressure on the corrupt Kuchma regime and the Moscow backed presidential candidate. Without such massive round the clock rallies for democracy there would be no President Yushchenko. Tymoshenko has the moxie, grace and determination not to allow the Orange Revolution from becoming compromised. There will be enormous pressure on President Yushchenko to make deals, but with Prime Minister Tymoshenko at his side Ukraine's sovereignty is not likely to be jeopardized. It must be underscored that President Yushchenko' s health has suffered. There still could be future consequences. Ukraine must be prepared for all possibilities. Perhaps a leader's possible frail health will give the Kremlin an upper hand to influence Ukraine. It is imperative that Ukraine has in place a strong political infrastructure based on liberty no matter the individual in office. Politicians come and go, but freedom should be lasting. There can be no democracy if a nation's future rests with one or even a handful of individuals. Democracy requires that men and women be nurtured and work their way up the ranks to meet the challenges of their generation and those that follow. An independent free press will be vital in this regard. Tymoshenko is impressive for many reasons. Her intuition, business prowess, ability to command an audience and sincere love of the Motherland are extraordinary. Most important, however, she is a democrat who understands the most basic needs of safeguarding freedom. Korrespondent Magazine quoted her saying that "it's necessary to start not with economic or social reforms, but with securing a free mass media. Otherwise, no reform is going to get results." She is one of the few in Ukraine who grasps this critical concept. Democracy cannot exist without a press that is unencumbered by politics or economic gain. The vitality, strength and success of every democracy and totalitarian regime is measured by the independence of its media. A free press will out live elected officials, presidential administrations and safeguard the future of a democratic Ukraine. Yulia Tymoshenko supports and understands this basic component of liberty. There is no guarantee that Tymoshenko will be named the next prime minister. On Saturday, January 15th, she expressed certainty that the incoming president would advance her candidacy based on a prior agreement. So far Yushchenko has not publicly expressed a preference for her. Clearly, there is political-jockeying going on. Should Yushchenko choose someone other than Tymoshenko then it is a decision that must be respected so that the nation may heal. While Yushchenko's pick of anyone other than Tymoshenko would be a disappointment, Yulia can take comfort knowing that she has all the skills, abilities and the strength of character to become a great future president. Her leadership is needed now and in the future. Hopefully, President-elect Yushchenko will agree. |
All those peans to Timoshenko and Yuschenko coming from ignorant, naive Westerners are just plain disguisting ! 
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Very strange...
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Originally posted by Jill Bob, it's like I'm stalking you today |
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Originally posted by Jill ...the next day she was wearing something very similar--also a grey form fitting dress, but with some high white collar like old librarians used to wear... |
(Did I mention that Olga knitted a bright orange scarf for me? I wear it daily!)| Did I mention that Olga knitted a bright orange scarf for me? I wear it daily! |
| Seriously!!! I wonder what Yuliya Tymoschenko is thinking with that wardrobe. |
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okay, that dress is just PLAAAAAIIIIN bad all the way around. SHEESH!! that dress may be enough to totally kill my crush!! |
Maybe she's a fan of "The Music Man".
| It's bullsh_ _! It's all just for show!" |
| Originally posted by Jill: (something about Tymoshenko and) fishnet stockings |
| Jill also writes: It's not a bad dress, it just seems an odd choice for the occasion |
... dust off that charm and warm up a miracle for your brothers. (Sorry girls, but she's just too much. And too much is an entirely delightful thing in life.)
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