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French Military Defeats
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Posted by: AkMike

LMAO !! Go to Google type in french military defeats click on the "I'm Feeling Lucky" button and look at the long list.

Posted by: lolomarseille

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Internet Parody Hands French Military a Defeat
by Richard J. Dalton Jr
Newsday, March 13, 2003

The French always end up as military toast, or so it seems from a search on the popular Google search engine. But a miffed Canadian student is actually behind a prank that says no documents are found in a Google search for "French military victories."
The search brings up a page that asks: "Did you mean 'french military defeats.'"

The French did win some wars. In fact, Google lists about 63,100 pages of French military victories.

But a Web page says no documents are found when searching for "French military victories" using Google's "I'm Feeling Lucky" button, which bypasses the list of search results and jumps directly to the first Web page in the list.

That happens to be a mock-up page of Google, suggesting a search for "french military defeats." The large Google logo at the top tends to distract Web surfers from the address in the Web browser: www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html.

Steve Lerner, a 22-year-old Toronto student, said he created the page as "a humorous way of showing political opposition against France's weaseling."

Lerner said he received 50,000 hits in 18 hours on Tuesday, before the site went down for technical reasons unrelated to the large volume of Web traffic. He said it will be back up by the weekend or sooner.

Lerner said he managed to make the page the first search result by listing "French military victories" in several key areas. But Google claims its complex search methods make human tampering with search results difficult.

Lerner hasn't heard from Google, and chances are he won't.

A spokesman for Google , based in Mountain View, Calif., had no comment. But the search engine generally turns its back on parodies, recognizing that eventually the pages will be less visible as they fall down further in the search engine's results list.

© 2003, Newsday, Inc.

Posted by: FlashingEyes

France, Germany, and the rest of Western Europe is still culturally about 150 years behind the United States, living in tribal communities with disparate languages and ancient, outdated societies like the Sioux and Apaches once did. Probably in another 150 years the people who still want to speak German or French will be living in little reservations where they can preserve their language and heritage, but no longer continue to waste the majority of the land, which will be claimed by a more advanced and progressive society. These old-clinging people will be able to continue to "smoke-um peace pipe" filled with wacky tobacky, though, and open casinos. Even today many progressive thinkers in Europe and the rest of the world are realizing that these tribal Western Eurpean cultures with disparate languages and useless rituals simply no longer have relevance in the world of tomorrow. It's understandable why so many French/Germans/Western Europeans are angry, but instead of doing something useful, like joining the inevitable wave of progress, they are fighting yet another losing battle, with, for instance, the French desperately outlawing new words and religious symbols and in short trying to outlaw freedom. So refusing to join the wave of progress, and not wanting to look at their own silliness, they instead spend time complaining about the United States, because we are the symbol of progress, we are the future, and we are what they will one day become when their culture has evolved, but by that point, we'll have evolved yet further and they will still be behind us.

(small edit for spelling only)

Posted by: lolomarseille

well, better think to the western europe coz china will not be a piece of cake , eeh?

funny that most of the europeans think exactly the oppesite: "americans are children, immature,etc.."

in fact your post has religious roots(manifest destiny)

about civilisation level, well, USA are no more a model in europe
( since a generation?) and i suggest you go on english press sites to undestand ( coz you know only your barbaric langage it seems) how your cousins see you( if you're cardiac, don't do that)

about the jealousy of french as an explanation of antiamericanism, you're perfectly right(WHITE STONE! NOW!) and even french knows that, it's why they yell louder( when you have it in the ass, it's always painfull)

Well, in conclusion:
you have a very marxist point of view about history , did you knew that?

advertisement for mac do will be banned in UK soon, coz
" we don't want want to be as fat as americans"

mexico is far from god and close from united states

Posted by: AkMike

"if it makes your dick bigger, so it's good "

You've got a potty mouth!

I stumbled across this and thought it was humorous! Apparently you didn't. I just wanted to share a smile with others.

Posted by: lolomarseille

hi hi hi
why are you yelling?
you have a shrink for free!
tell me what you dislike?
Derrida?aaah how right you're!
Chirac? hey, less than me!
etc

btw, could you post " us military defeats"?
if yes it's ok

Posted by: AkMike

I don't see any caps in my writing. There-for I'm not yelling.

Why are you here? The rest of us are interested in russian-western relationships.I haven't seen anything that you've posted that really contributes towards that . Maybe I've missed it.

Posted by: lolomarseille

i think you've missed it yes, these things happens even to the best you know

sorry but i've to go

but, "ill be back"

Posted by: AkMike

""if it makes your dick bigger, so it's good "

"when you have it in the ass, it's always painfull)"

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Posted by: Pawel_PL.USA

FlashingEyes, you're pushing our buttons, right ?!

But anyway, the French have had their glory too. If not for the French armies, navy and financial assistance during the American revolutionary war the British would most probably have choked the Americans. You Americans should remember that as much as the French should be thankful to the Russians for launching that seemingly haphazard invasion of East Prussia in August of 1914, at a time when France's existance hung on a very thin thread.

Posted by: FlashingEyes

Pawel,

The French assisted the US against the British not only in the Revolutionary war but also the War of 1812. France did this out of self-interested tribal warfare with their tribal neighbor, Britian. But had the French not assisted the US, it might have delayed the overthrow of British rule, but eventually the US would have won freedom. In 1812, America was filled with tribal communities, as was Western and Eastern Europe. But America changed dramatically into a unified culture with common language and progressive society. Easter Europe also underwent significant unifications and changes, common (mostly Slavic-based) languages (and everyone there speaks Russian), and experiments with progressive societies. But Western Europe is still pretty much the same tribal societies of 1812.

Posted by: Jim_FL

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Originally posted by FlashingEyes
But America changed dramatically into a unified culture with common language and progressive society.

And that would be....................Spanish?

As I recall, then Governer Martinez spent a big wad of taxpayer funds successfully defending English as the official state language in FL back in the late 80s. But the victory was by a VERY narrow margin. Spanish will replace english as the most widely recognised language in the USA at some point in the not-too-distant future, I believe. I say "most widely recognised" because the USA has no federally mandated official language. (for an example close to home - Palm Beach county is projected to be 97% hispanic by 2010)

As far as the "unified culture" didn't that go out the window 'round about the 1860s?

Posted by: lolomarseille

US and napoleon were not allies in 1812/14 war, napoleon did not cared, and us pres was very clear about that

this war was the real economic independance of the usa; before they were an economic colony of brits; it's why it's called second independance war

Pawel, you're perfectly right yes( eeeh!)

Flash, as always, you're funny and write nonsense

Ak-mike; after a post , you create this thread, so i came as you wanted,so2, if your unable to discuss, i suggest you go fishing on ice, or , better, go to providenya, petropavlosk kamtchatski ( happy you're!)

Posted by: FlashingEyes

lolo,

It's interesting how you lack the ability to understand basic sentence structure and logic. For instance, I never said that the US and France were official military allies in the war of 1812; I said France assisted the US in that war by waging "self-interested tribal warfare with their tribal neighbor, Britain." One day, when you are able to understand basic sentence structure and logic, you will be able to begin to try to make intelligent replies, instead of your ramblings above and on other threads.

It is also significant that although the French and Americans denied any official military alliance, they were allies in trade, and the War of 1812 started after Britian seized American ships attempting to trade with Napoleanic Europe.

BTW, the average person you meet here on the street in the US is not going to refer to the War of 1812 as the "second independence war" - that's something you might pick up in a textbook but doesn't reflect popular belief on either side.

Lolo, as usual everything you say is worthless in terms of accuracy and of assisting the thread. By the way, how's the job search going?

(minor edit for spelling only)

Posted by: lolomarseille

flash, it's not intersting to debate with you

Posted by: rob_we

Flash
Though you are so sophisticated with spelling corrections what about speaking french or german here. Or russian maybe? An educated guy like you wouldn´t mind right? As lolo, para and others here and i don´t mind to speak english

I would love to correct your spelling then

Posted by: parasionok

Flash,

Quote:

BTW, the average person you meet here on the street in the US is not going to refer to the War of 1812 as the "second independence war" - that's something you might pick up in a textbook but doesn't reflect popular belief on either side.

Actually the average person you meet on the street in the US, would not know where France is or would never know anything about 1812. Lolo doesn't need to look for a job as he already has one. I understand that as English is your native language you can insult people with more sophistication. Why don't we make French an official language of this forum? It is really strange to see how all the arguments you give here are all about those stupid foreigners who do not speak your language properly hence it is not even worth to talk to them.... It is just sad to read your posts. You should have more respect for different cultures and not consider us just tribes recently emerged from the Stone Age. Think about it.

Posted by: BradIL

Quote:

Originally posted by lolomarseille: this war [war of 1812] was the real economic independance of the usa; before they were an economic colony of brits; it's why it's called second independance war

No lolo---flash is right. You don't understand the economic relationship between the US & UK after 1783, which is interesting. Alexander Hamiliton's plan to restructure the revolutionary war debt involved British investors quite heavily.

In fact, during the administration of Thomas Jefferson there was a growing trade with the British (generating lots of revenue). It was the tensions between the UK & France that made american trade complicated. But, hey, the US was able to come up with the money to get Napolean to sell us the Louisiana Purchase.

And if I recall, weren't there British investors providing money to Merriwether Lewis when he was raising money for his company that was to start harvesting the natural resources in all this new american land?

The brits have always owned a large share of the assets in america. Even into the 1990's, didn't british investors own more than 40% of american assets?

Posted by: BradIL

Quote:

Originally posted by parasionok:
Flash, Actually the average person you meet on the street in the US, would not know where France is or would never know anything about 1812.

Para--- I'm not trying to provoke, I am being serious, would the average Russian know anything about the american war of 1812? If they would, why on earth would that be of any consequence to them?

Seriously, there are components of american history relevant to americans, but I really don't see what possible importance it could be to foreigners.

Posted by: rob_we

BradIl

Quote:

I am being serious, would the average Russian know anything about the american war of 1812? If they would, why on earth would that be of any consequence to them?

Wait thats not the right question. Otherwise you would have to ask the average american why one of the most famous places in Berlin is called "Alexanderplatz". Or about Alexander and his relation to Prussia

. Or which Russian Zar built boats in Holland, Russians know that because its part of their history.
...and if you ask the average russian about famous russian poetry poets, or composers you will be surprised about their knowledge and education. Neither "average" germans nor "average" americans could even come close to that.
I think both of us would loose the "cultural" battle here

And Para did not attack the US to my understanding

but the idea of the average american "high" cultural or historical knowledge...
Lets face the fact, that Mikey Mouse is more famous than Jesus Christ...

Our western world doesn´t put too much value on cultural aspects for the "average" guy.... The russians did!... There are many "average" russians that have seen ballets, listened to symphonies, and read from Dostoyevsky to Bulgakov.
Ask the "average" american about Dvorak or Gershwin, Bernstein, Bierce or Whitman...

Posted by: BradIL

No Rob that is exactly the question I wished to ask. Why would the average american being interested in the history associated with alexanderplatz, unless they are tourists who are curious?

And I agree that Para is not *attacking* the US, or being unduly harsh in her criticism. That's why I say I am not trying to provoke her, only to submit the question of the relevance of national histories to foreigners, beyond certain key events.

I'm not attacking Para either, please, just trying to get her to expand on her thoughts Rob, that's all.

Posted by: rob_we

Brad
Wait

. I did not say he would. I just wanted to show you that franco-us history of the year 1812 is as far away from the russians then my examples from the americans

. So the answer to your question (if the russians would know) would be why would the average russian be interested in history associated mainly to us

Thats all

But the average russian knows about his/ her own history. And still this last generation educated in kommunism times has a profound cultural and historical knowledge. I dare to say much better then our western one....Thats all I wanted to say....

Posted by: parasionok

Brad,

Quote:

Para--- I'm not trying to provoke, I am being serious, would the average Russian know anything about the american war of 1812? If they would, why on earth would that be of any consequence to them?

I don't know, Brad. My generation would probably know but since we are introducing the American education system, the average Russian would not know anything anymore IMHO. Our history education was mostly based on facts and packed up in communistic propaganda, yet we had courses in American history at school and college and in order to pass an exam in English we had to know alot about England and America.

Why would that be of any consequence to any human being to know things about world history? Well, because that is what makes an educated person...

Posted by: BradIL

Yeah... got to know it to be "educated". Its relevance in any european's life... who knows? Wouldn't it be enough to be "educated" to memorize where you can find the information about this silly war to answer all your questions?

No, I guess the educational establishment couldn't sit still for that.

Posted by: lolomarseille

may be some should read less bible and more over books

and russian is full of european classic culture, yes, it's true

Posted by: FlashingEyes

Cardinal Bernard Agre said in an interview with Vatican Radio last week that he had seen young girls decapitated by the French army.

"I've just come back from the hospitals, it's unbearable, these young girls decapitated by the French army, these people even lying on the floor," he said.

President Gbagbo said in a French internet forum on Saturday that he believed the beheading charge to be true.

"This testimony by the prelate was reported by all the people who were present at the siege of the Hotel Ivoire by the French army and all those who were in the hospitals," he told the forum organised by Le Nouvel Observateur newspaper.

"I wasn't in the hospitals but everyone who went there said it. We can assume this testimony repeated by several people is true."

French forces started a war against the Ivory Coast by destroying most of the Ivorian air force.

Posted by: lolomarseille

Quote:

Originally posted by BradIL
Yeah... got to know it to be "educated". Its relevance in any european's life... who knows? Wouldn't it be enough to be "educated" to memorize where you can find the information about this silly war to answer all your questions?

No, I guess the educational establishment couldn't sit still for that.

it's important coz the birth of USA belongs to the history of the world
like peter the great in russia...

well, in french history books, 1812 war is called second independance war, and says that the lack of battle vessels in us navy made a complete english blockade possible, so the young usa ceased to be a kind of big coldd caribbean island and began to look mainly to the hinterland, building their own industry and the roots of their future power
that's all
:-))

Posted by: Juggler

WoW just started reading this thread ...........interesting stuff here
I'll make a comment when I have read it all