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Any arms collectors or firearms enthusiast here????

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Posted by: searcher

Here are two very recognizable firearms for you

Symbols of each respective country and reminders of the cold war as well!


This is a Bulgarian Semi-Automatic variant of the Russian AK-47. The Bulgarians call this version the SLR-95. It differs from typical AK's in that it has a milled receiver (instead of a stamped sheet metal receiver) and a Styer hammer forged barrel. Also, most AK's have wooden stocks instead of the synthetic (plastic) stocks. The Caliber is 7.62x39mm Soviet.




This is a AR-15A2 variant. The AR-15A2 is the Semi-Automatic version of the M-16A2 rifle used by U.S. and NATO Forces. This particular rifle is a Bushmaster XM-15E2S . The caliber is 5.56 NATO (the .223 Remington is the same size but loaded with a slighly reduced pressure).





Posted by: Jerico

Hey searcher,
Ya i am kind of into different types of firearms.
That Ak you have on JPG looks similar to the Mak90 American version of the legal Ak-47 allowed by law.
Thumb hole stock with stamped receiver, I believe.
Lets just say i know someone who has one of these MAk 90`s

Fun to shoot and pretty accurate



Posted by: sidney

It's been a couple of years since I was in Moscow but they used to have a gun store in the underground mall. Saw some interesting weoponry there.
My wifes brother delivers products by minivan and was concerned about getting beat-up. He bought what he calls a gun. It's a co2 powered bb gun and would be a last choice for protection by me. I've had such guns and when you need them the co2 is empty or at reduced velocity. I tried to enplain that all he was gonna do was get someone angry should he try to use this. It is little more then an expensive brick to throw at them.
I collect but don't have either of these. I do have some class 3 and my then fiancee was a little concerned since in Ukraine only police and mafia have guns especially machine guns.
Sid



Posted by: searcher

I wish we were a Class-3 state but here almost everything is restricted or banned.

You can no longer purchase either of the two guns shown in this state.

They are banned here. You can only own them if you registered them (which required documentation and finger printing) prior to January 2000.

They can not be sold, traded, loaned or inherited by any of my family members including my children.

These laws are completely ineffective as they only affect the law abiding. Criminals could care less.

Its as effective as saying we'll nd drugs use by making drugs illegal.

If criminals complied with laws, they wouldn't be criminals.



Posted by: sidney

My wife may not always agree with my take on gun control but it surely has an effect on crime in her motherland. In Ukraine you basicly can't own a gun for protection. I've known of people who were robbed to the point where most everything in their home was taken. The criminal has no deterent. It seems even the police turn their back on much of the crime. Where I live close to 100% of the homes have guns, mostly for hunting but still I believe a deterent for criminals. There are homes and cars that have their doors unlocked and no one bothers to steal. With so many guns I have never known anyone to get shot. There is no such thing as a drive by out where I live in the country. My wife does appreciate the many freedoms we enjoy. Our last trip to ukraine, a year ago, had her a little up tight about getting robbered. She has live a much more relaxed and less threatened life here in America. Searcher, I agree with everything you said.
Sid



Posted by: rtking

I used to (past tense) have Chinese SKS rifles, but the Federal Bureau of Investigations confiscated one (long story, but it was seized when under control of a fraternity brother) and I sold the other one. Personally, they were interesting, unique, fun and cheap (I paid $95 for them... each... back in the mid '80's) but there's no place for them in an urban environment. We didn't realize the power of the 7.62x39 round until we fired surplus Chinese military rounds through it. Those rounds were armor piercing and it cut through a torque converter (1/4 inch steel plate on each side) and cracked-open the block of an abandoned car in the desert we were shooting at. It's THAT destructive. A round like that will go through your assailant, go through the wall, go through your neighbors and their walls and continue until it loses power. It's too dangerous to have in an urban setting.

I keep guns in my home... but mostly for hiking and target practice now. I have a Smith & Wesson Sigma (Glock immitator) in .40 caliber for fun shooting. (It jams too often.) And I have a Ruger Vaquero single-action .44 Magnum for fun and for hiking. The .44 magnum carries massive stopping power (bullets will enter a body and cause massive trauma by transferring energy instead of going through the body.) I carry this only in the event that I run across bears during my hike, and it's used only as a last resort (hence why it has never been removed from its holster or discharged during any of my hikes.)

Bob



Posted by: sidney

My friend works for the borough and I borrowed a manhole cover before it went to recycle. They tried to drill it and were unable. Shot it with a couple of game guns, 220 swift and 30-06 but just chipped the surface. My 50BMG with AP went right thru and into the stump behind it. .223 AP only chipped it much like the game guns. I guess the 50 Bmg serves a duell purpose in the US military as sniper gun as well as stopping most engines. The more you look into some of the worlds best inventions and there are many from the former SU or immigrants from. In weapons the AK was probably one of the most mass produced and saw some of the longest run times. The first corvette engineer, I believe his name was Duntov was a russian immigrant who was instrumental making this car what it is today. There are many more examples of inventiveness from this land.



Posted by: searcher

50BMG

I have been think about a 50

http://mmag.biz

Hey Bob,

I have a .40 S&W Glock. It is a nice compact handgun:



I am partial to the .45ACP but I thought the .40 is a nice round and it is compact.

Here is another AK for you guys. This one was found in Iraq. It is made of 24K Gold and weighs 25 pounds (approximately 10-12 kilos for you people using the metric system):





Posted by: rtking

Searcher!

I've been telling Khashyar that we should go to the gun range for some target practice. Would you be up to do this sometime? There's the Firing Line in Arcadia and I like their range. Their range loads pack fewer grain, but it's relatively clean loads. (Some other reloads are really dirty.) What do you think?

Bob



Posted by: searcher

Sure!


But I usually use my own reloads.

Is this an indoor or outdoor range??



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