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Lena's new article entitled: "Scams and Scammers, and how to avoid them!"

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Posted by: Khashyar

Hello Everyone,

We have just added an article written by Lena entitled: "Scams and Scammers, and how to avoid them!"

We hope that others will find the information in the article helpful, which is based upon Lena's experience with working with Russian women and Western men through the Russian Meeting Place and a Belarusian marriage agency before she moved to the United States.

You can find the article here:

http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...ms_Scammers.htm

You can find a list of other helpful articles about Russian women and Russian-Western relationships in our "About Russian Women" section: http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/russian_women/

Khashyar



Posted by: ConnerVT

Very well written, Lena.

There is a dominant, repeating theme throughout the article. Now, where have I heard that before?



Posted by: Missouri

Lena- SUPERB article!!! You gave specific things we men can do- like writing frequently, in order to win her heart- even though she will probably write less frequently because she has to go to the Internet Cafe.

THANKS again!!! You and Khashyar are TOPS!



Posted by: Khashyar

Hi Fred and Missouri,

Lena left the house early today, but I spoke with her about her Scam article and your posts this morning and she was happy that you found it interesting and she also hoped that it would be useful and helpful to others...

She and I both are going to continue to write articles that we feel might be of interest to our guests and friends...

Thank you for your feedback,

Khashyar



Posted by: Yozhik

Absolutely brilliant Lena. Everything I have read there is quite simply a bible for anyone contemplating Western/Russian relationship.

Si



Posted by: searcher

Very good.

Interestingly, recently my lady had her purse stolen. It contained many valuable things.

Many of which she acquired in Paris.

She didn't ask me for anything but I learned about what happened from her daughter.

Still, she didn't want to ask. ALL of her money was in her purse and she was upset. She didn't know what she was going to do and some of her friends offered to help.

I did send her some money to help her but she didn't ask and if it wasn't for my curiosity as to why she was away (she was at the police station all night) and why she seemed so sad, I probably wouldn't have learned about this.

Fortunately, I have met her and know she is not a scammer so I didn't question if I should send something to help her.



Posted by: neil277

Hello Panel,

How do you tell a scammer?.

They are becoming very sophisticated?.

If they ask for money this will prove what they are up to, and if they keep disappearing this is another red flag?.

How about address check and e.mail check? i feel if you go down this road your relationship is finished because of know trust.

Its just what Khashyar said about setting up a scam site and men send upto $15000 as i read on one scam site.

For me i feel you have to meet this person and trust your feelings but the mind is like a fuse box once one fuse has blown the mind is not the same.

If you dont trust a lady do you move on?

Its very hard to decide and i do know being apart is very hard and does the Russian lady feel the same?

Relationships are hard but trust is very important in a relationship and this is what we need.

I have been looking at many scam sites for the past two weeks but e.mail check would be very good.

Also the Russian Lady might feel the same we understand there are some bad stories out there and this plays a good part of our thinking and the way we act.

I feel men are not so strong as the Ladies and i feel once you have made your choice you should never talk to another lady on the web in dating or meeting and you must meet as soon as posible to make this relationship work.



What do people think?

Neil



Posted by: grhodes2

What an excellent article. I'm really picking up a lot of great points from it, especially due to a potential scam being attempted with me right now.



Posted by: Khashyar

Thank you for your message....

Lena will appreciate hearing your feedback.

Yes, apply common sense to your current potential scam situation.

I wish you happiness in your search.

Khashyar



Posted by: grhodes2

I got another e-mail from this lady today. She's not asking me for anything right now, and she calls me a really good friend. I don't know what to make of it at this point in time, but I'm just taking this one day at a time right now. I'm getting pics of this lady, and its not anything revealing, but what appears to be a down to earth Russian lady. I haven't broken off the e-mails yet, but I can't thank all of you enough for showing me the warning signs. I'll keep you posted.


Greg



Posted by: Khashyar

Yes, please keep us posted, Greg.

Khashyar



Posted by: grhodes2

I got another one from her today, and this has now been one week. She's not asked me for anything as of yet. She's called me a good friend, which I am trying to be. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I'm even telling her to be cautious.
I guess this would be my next question. I read in Lena's article that she worked part time in a Russian marriage agency. I'm wondering if that agency had access to all the dating websites out there, including dreammates.com where my friend found me. I'm trying to let my investigation training really take over and ask as many questions as I can.


Greg

P.S. I really feel like a kid right now, I am in "uncharted waters"



Posted by: anthony45

This was a very outstanding read on the subject. Now that makes me put things more in prespective, and gives me a great caution about doing things like sending money. Sometimes your gut feeling is always the right feeling, and after reading this, I am quite assured that I rather do this my way, and go and see this for myself.



Posted by: grhodes2

Quote:
Originally Posted by anthony45
This was a very outstanding read on the subject. Now that makes me put things more in prespective, and gives me a great caution about doing things like sending money. Sometimes your gut feeling is always the right feeling, and after reading this, I am quite assured that I rather do this my way, and go and see this for myself.


Wow, I didn't realize it's been that long since I last posted here.


Greg



Posted by: zahtras

Thanks for the excellent articles about Scammers Lena,

I think an important part is your emotions that take over,wether we like it or not,the fact that you want to help,but should restrain from doiing so when the relationship this requires..Myself im a not so strong person when a beatyifull woman ask me for money to help then it would be very hard to resist...Yet i have learned this is ter only way of finding out if she is really interested in me or just the money..If my oldest sister says No dont do it i can 110 procent say she is always right,as i have confided in her several times..I always try to complement the hardworking woman in the FSU because they deserve every bit of it,and i consider them one of the most educated and willing to make that enormous step as i have done emigrating from Holland where i had a good Job,many friends,yet i choose to leave them behind and take the uncertainty that comes with such a descission..

Just my 2 cents worth..



Posted by: grhodes2

Quote:
Originally Posted by zahtras
Thanks for the excellent articles about Scammers Lena,

I think an important part is your emotions that take over,wether we like it or not,the fact that you want to help,but should restrain from doiing so when the relationship this requires..Myself im a not so strong person when a beatyifull woman ask me for money to help then it would be very hard to resist...Yet i have learned this is ter only way of finding out if she is really interested in me or just the money..If my oldest sister says No dont do it i can 110 procent say she is always right,as i have confided in her several times..I always try to complement the hardworking woman in the FSU because they deserve every bit of it,and i consider them one of the most educated and willing to make that enormous step as i have done emigrating from Holland where i had a good Job,many friends,yet i choose to leave them behind and take the uncertainty that comes with such a descission..

Just my 2 cents worth..



I gotta tell you guys, and this is my biggest problem, if any female, whether from the FSU or whatever might have an interest in me, I'm probably not going to believe it. I look back on the attempted scam with me earlier in the year, and for a while, "it" had me going. Then when the bomb was dropped, I was okay, and I didn't have my emotions going wild. I almost expect it. I'm not saying all FSU women are out to play a person, I guess I tend to expect it and probably wouldn't know the difference otherwise.


Greg



Posted by: Rockyof Florida

Great refresher to remember that famous quote "DO NOT SEND MONEY!!"
Rocky



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