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Posted by: MadHatter

Hello,

I was all set to meet one lady, but took to long. As she also kept putting me off on the meeting. We corresponded for a year, then I got a letter saying she met someone in her city.

So, I started with a fresh batch and have made plans to travel in Septemeber or October. There's one, I think may be the one that I should meet, as we have a good correspondence and have talked on the phone and have got on well in a "Virtual" meeting on web cam. Is it good to meet one or meet several?

Some of the letters I get, are to say the least, interesting. I get "I miss You" when we haven't met yet. I don't know the proper responce to those. I was asked by the agency, if there was one that stood out for my best interest. So, I would like the best way to go here. One or several?

Posted by: Manchester

Corresponding for a year is what went wrong the first time. A serious man is on a plane within a few months.

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Some of the letters I get, are to say the least, interesting. I get "I miss You" when we haven't met yet.

That sounds like Fat Yuri to me. Most Russian women will write fairly short letters and not have gushing, one-sided conversations with themselves like Yuri does. A real Russian woman mostly keeps her true feelings to herself until she has determined that she has met a real decent man in person. That doesn’t happen overnight, it takes time.

Nobody misses anyone they do not know.

Posted by: blucatz

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Originally Posted by Manchester

A real Russian woman mostly keeps her true feelings to herself until she has determined that she has met a real decent man in person. That doesn’t happen overnight, it takes time.

What a very true statement. But look out when she finally lets her true feelings and emotions known to you, Wow!

Posted by: Buckeye5704

I have only limited experience, but I echo Manchester's response. It's good that you're planning to go sooner this time. Think long think wrong in many (not all) cases.

Visit one or many/few is a debatable (and debated) topic. It's all according to what you are comfortable with. My personal thought is to maximize my efforts with regards to expenses and use one trip to meet up to four ladies rather than try to make four seperate first meeting trips. I don't need to make that first trip now, but that was the plan until Irina came into my life. So really, it's up to you in the end. What is the best thing for you? Can you manage dating multiple women here at home? If so then WMVM may be right for you. If not then maybe WMVO is the best course to take. Can you manage spending up to a week with each lady to get a fair idea of the kind of woman she is? These and many more questions need to be thought out to plan YOUR best course of action.

Best of luck no matter which way you go MH,

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Hello,

I was all set to meet one lady, but took to long. As she also kept putting me off on the meeting. We corresponded for a year, then I got a letter saying she met someone in her city.

So, I started with a fresh batch and have made plans to travel in Septemeber or October. There's one, I think may be the one that I should meet, as we have a good correspondence and have talked on the phone and have got on well in a "Virtual" meeting on web cam. Is it good to meet one or meet several?

Some of the letters I get, are to say the least, interesting. I get "I miss You" when we haven't met yet. I don't know the proper responce to those. I was asked by the agency, if there was one that stood out for my best interest. So, I would like the best way to go here. One or several?

I agree with Manchester. I would wait between 3-5 months before seeing someone if possible. Any longer and FSU women begin to believe you are a "keyboard Romeo" and will never arrive so they look elsewhere.

I know it is an expensive and scary thought going to the FSU when you've never been before. Many, myself included, wonder why they are doing this up until the miniute they board their first plane. After your in the air, land in the FSU, and see your girl for the first time ... you wonder why you waited so long!

The one or several question has no answer. It is what you are most comfortable with. There are good and bad with both. The only good thing about seeing several is if you don't like the first one, there is a second ... third ... Personally, I see no value in seeing several because you can't get to know anyone by seeing them for 2-3 days, sure you can get an idea but you have to go back to get a better idea. Being from the USA and the price of airfare lately, that's a lot of money and in my opinion the expensive way of doing things (just my opinion). If the woman knows you have arrived just for her, then she will be more receptive and open. These women are smart and if you only visit them for a few days, they will know you are seeing other women on the trip.

As I said, there is no right way or wrong way. It up to the guy to decide and determine which would work best for him. I know a guy that went to the FSU with no plan. Just to look for women on the street, in businesses, stores, and anywhere ... he found his wife this way.

Good luck to you and let us know what you decide to do.

Posted by: I/O

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Some of the letters I get, are to say the least, interesting. I get "I miss You" when we haven't met yet. I don't know the proper responce to those.

I don't know about proper but the correct response is to consign them via the shortest route to the recycle bin of your PC. I disagree with the others, I suspect his name is Vlad or Boris.

Visit one or visit many.........read the forums, there is about 50 thousand threads floating around on this subject and nobody has ever convinced anyone to change their mind regardless what side of the fence they sit. Here is a clue to the answer..........do you date a new lady or multiple ladies every weekend at home? If the answer is yes then go the visit many route. If the answer is no, then visit one. If you think you might be able to change your style and make something new a success simply because of geography you would be very mistaken.

I/O

Posted by: MadHatter

I've been reading the forums and seeing what others have done. I'll decide before my trip of course. The lady that says "I miss you" is actually a woman. I've talked with her on the phone and video. Her letters are trnaslated at an agency that I'm using, so the mangagers there know her. She's a little different I think. She has a daughter. I may be scratching her off my list of course, real soon.

Once I know which way I'm going, I'll post that. Plus any other questions that I may have.

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

I've been reading the forums and seeing what others have done. I'll decide before my trip of course. The lady that says "I miss you" is actually a woman. I've talked with her on the phone and video. Her letters are trnaslated at an agency that I'm using, so the mangagers there know her. She's a little different I think. She has a daughter. I may be scratching her off my list of course, real soon.

Once I know which way I'm going, I'll post that. Plus any other questions that I may have.

I am on your side.... yes, some of these ladies can get attached quickly... it is not unheard of.... but the probability is they are attached to a dream of you and not the real you...

As others have said.... there really is no 'best' way.... everyone has done their way a little different... and all have been successful and all have failed... do what comes naturally to you...

Posted by: MadHatter

Yes, I agree, she has got some picture of me in her head and has a dream of what life would be like with me. I do try to discourage such things when they do that. I figure if I don't talk the same way, maybe they'll figure it out, and wait and see what happens when we'll meet, if we meet.

Another question I have to ask. If a ladies profile has been on a site for three years, say since she was 23, is that a caution sign?

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Yes, I agree, she has got some picture of me in her head and has a dream of what life would be like with me. I do try to discourage such things when they do that. I figure if I don't talk the same way, maybe they'll figure it out, and wait and see what happens when we'll meet, if we meet.

Another question I have to ask. If a ladies profile has been on a site for three years, say since she was 23, is that a caution sign?

The words she says also may be mis-interperted. I remember when I first started, a woman would say something and I would interpret is a she is asking for sex. When in reality she meant she wanted to be with me, to see me, and to talk to me face to face.

I would say no to the 3 year question. Although it may seem like there are a lot of men seeking foreign brides, I would say the percentage is very low. Of the men "seeking" a foreign bride, less than 5% actually meet a foreign woman for the possibility of marriage.

Posted by: MadHatter

I thought that I may have been mis-interepting her, but in her last letter, she said I am your lady and you are my man and she was ready to give herself to me.

I didn't know the percentage was that low on men meeting Russian women. I was just curious as to why she has been looking for three years. I do like her, and if I go WOVO, she has some good possiblities, and also if I go WMVM, she'll be on the list.

Posted by: LadyT

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

I thought that I may have been mis-interepting her, but in her last letter, she said I am your lady and you are my man and she was ready to give herself to me.

I didn't know the percentage was that low on men meeting Russian women. I was just curious as to why she has been looking for three years. I do like her, and if I go WOVO, she has some good possiblities, and also if I go WMVM, she'll be on the list.

MadHatter, why you worry about 3 years? I don't think it is any problem. If woman has job and more to do then spend all time on website, that means just good things! Do not worry!

Posted by: MadHatter

Okay, well I won't worry about the one that has been there for three years, I was just sort of wondering.

But, the one that writes "I miss you and I'm your lady you are my man" is not her. In fact, I think I'll be writing this one goodbye. (I miss you) not the other one.

Posted by: LadyT

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Okay, well I won't worry about the one that has been there for three years, I was just sort of wondering.

But, the one that writes "I miss you and I'm your lady you are my man" is not her. In fact, I think I'll be writing this one goodbye. (I miss you) not the other one.

Some lady is lady! some just......but I don't think it much from how long she is on website.

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

I thought that I may have been mis-interepting her, but in her last letter, she said I am your lady and you are my man and she was ready to give herself to me.

She might mean that she is ready to start a relationship with you ... and nothing more.

Posted by: MadHatter

Yes, that's probably all it is. I just thought she was perhaps, just getting carried away by her ideal man idea.

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Another question I have to ask. If a ladies profile has been on a site for three years, say since she was 23, is that a caution sign?

I'll go out on a limb here, it is a caution sign. Not exactly a "Red Flag", but something to keep in mind.

If she was 23 then and 26 now that is not a big deal, as I think that most girls under 25 are not ready to commit to something this important. Just IMHO

Now if she is 29 or 30 and has been looking for 3+ years that could be a sign of something wrong.

The main idea would be to judge by her letters what her opinions & expectations are of life in the West. If she has a very unrealistic idea of what life in the UK or US would be - maybe that is why she is still looking

Posted by: sidney

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Another question I have to ask. If a ladies profile has been on a site for three years, say since she was 23, is that a caution sign?

I ran across some women that were extremely picky at my wife's agency and were looking for much longer then that.
Sid

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally Posted by sidney

I ran across some women that were extremely picky at my wife's agency and were looking for much longer then that.
Sid

They don't even have to be extremely picky to be searching for many years.... I have seen some who have been searching for many.... and they are very nice ladies.... some I wrote and I stopped, some I wrote and they stopped.... so it goes both ways...

Posted by: Spakoyna

My wife was on the scene and had many proposals in the more than 4 years she was looking!

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Originally Posted by sidney

I ran across some women that were extremely picky at my wife's agency and were looking for much longer then that.
Sid

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by Spakoyna

My wife was on the scene and had many proposals in the more than 4 years she was looking!

... and then she found you and couldn't resist!!!

Posted by: MadHatter

I never asked her. But, she has asked me questions about the USA in comparision to Russia on some things. We've discussed different topics. She even said, she thinks about life abroad, as she don't think her future husband would want to come and be with her in Russia. But, she's never mentioned anything unrelaistic, and mentioned how different things are between our countries.

She has said that she is ready for a comitment with me, which is we only write each other and I only come to her.

Posted by: Chillidog

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Originally Posted by freebird

Now if she is 29 or 30 and has been looking for 3+ years that could be a sign of something wrong.

I disagree with this statement completly.

In general terms as the women gets older (with or without a child) in a FSU country the harder it is for her to find a good genuine FSU man to marry. Even the older 40+ FSU men are looking for the young 20's women to have for a wife or mistress. Also as mentioned earlier by GTR only 5% of us foreigner's even travel to see a woman they are writing to. Whether she is picky or not, whether she has a child or not, a women 30+ in FSU will have a hard time in finding a decent man to marry, foreign or local.

a woman 3 years looking..... big deal! who cares? how many years have most of us who have been searching for an FSU woman been looking ????? I would guess most for at least 2+ years whether we have found one or not. Please do not put much weight (or hold it against a woman) for how long she has been searching localy or thru the internet.

MH---- as you stated, one of the women's letters are being translated by the Agency. Please understand these letters are the interpretation of the translator and based on the Fluency of the translator (it could be a local college student in English) the translation may not be of high quality, and properly translated.

also the translator may know the women is very interested in you and is wanting to convey this and expressing the womens interest in words "she thinks you as a westerner wants to read" and not necessarily the intent of the lady you are writing.

Posted by: MadHatter

Okay, it does make sense that 3 years is not that big of a deal. It did have me a bit curious, as I've not been doing this that long. I didn't stop to think about the translations at all. I just thought that it was translated into what she was writing.

She did tell me about her long term relationship as well, and I told her about mine, as she did ask. She is the one I am most interested in as well. I'll be chatting with her tomorrow, and can discuss the meeting and other things as well.

Posted by: matt235

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Originally Posted by Chillidog

a woman 3 years looking..... big deal! who cares? how many years have most of us who have been searching for an FSU woman been looking ????? I would guess most for at least 2+ years whether we have found one or not. Please do not put much weight (or hold it against a woman) for how long she has been searching localy or thru the internet.

I have to agree with you on this one. Not only have most of us been searching for a couple of years or more (I personally have been looking overseas off and on for about 7 years and seriously now for about the last 2), but as long as a man is single, he is in some form looking either at home or abroad. What exactly he is looking for is debatable and dependent upon desires and situation.

The real question with someone being on a website for a period of times (3 years in this case) is whether or not the person is activly using it or not, neither of which in my opinion is a problem or a red flag. I have gone through periods of time in which I did not pay attention to the agency sites, and then there are other times in which I was logged onto them 24/7 (or close to it)--I hope that the ladies that I am talking to (and trying to narrow down to one) will not take offense that I have been looking for 7 years. I would actually hope that they would see that as a good sign. True she needs to be sure that I am the person that she can trust and wants to be with, but I hope that she understands that once I finally committ myself, I am committed for life and that I have put a lot of thought and effort into this endeavor, and that I have refused to settle for a relationship that is not ideal for me or a lady.

What matters is the fact that the two people are happy with each other no matter how long each one has been searching in this manner.

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by Chillidog

Don't get me wrong, I didn't say AVOID her or anything like that, I look at all of the information that is available and use best judgement.

If you have had some communication, that is fine, see what she writes and take it from there.

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Another question I have to ask. If a ladies profile has been on a site for three years, say since she was 23, is that a caution sign?

Chili, this was the original quote. He is not asking about someone he is communicating with, but asking about profiles. I have found that "stale profiles" ie where the girl has been at the site for several years are less likely to get a response than a "fresh" profile. If the girl put up a profile at 23, and is now 26 there is a good chance that she is no longer looking, and the agency just keeps the profile there.

IF YOU ARE ALREADY COMMUNICATING WITH THE WOMAN, her comments and attitude in her letters will tell far more than the simple fact that she is been waiting for 3 years.

In that part I think we are in agreement

Posted by: matt235

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Originally Posted by freebird

During my searches, I am always taking note of the ladies that have been on the site for some time. I have still sent initial letters to them in hopes of an answer. The response rate is usually around 1% from the ones that have been on the site for a couple of years or more. As you said, most have lost interest in the process and have moved on in their lives. But of the ones that respond, I feel that there is something of a dedication in them to continue on for what they are looking for.

Actually, I am leary of the "fresh" profiles. My reason for this is that a good number of these are what I call a "flash in the pan". The lady will post here profile because she had a bad weekend, one of her buddies tells her it is a good idea (or they are doing it together), etc. We obviously get a better response from these ladies, as they probably check more often than the ones that have been on for sometime, but it seems that very few ever continue the communications beyond the first 2 or 3 letter exchanges.

I have found the most meaningful responses from those ladies that have their profile on the site for about 3 to 6 months. Personally, I believe that these are the ladies that are sincere about their intentions and as a result will "stick" with it longer (possibly forever).

OK, that was my 2 cents on this one today...I am now down to $999.94 (i.e. now where near the married stage yet!)

cheers,

Posted by: MadHatter

I've been in contact with this lady, that has had her profile on the site for three years. I was taking a fresh start and picked out a few to send intro letters to, I also had gotten a few myself. She wrote me back the next day, said she was glad to get my letter. We've exchanged a number of letters, talked on the phone and some video chats as well. She seems very nice, as I can tell, from her letters and our phone/video chats. I mean, I feel comfertable with her, at this point. I was just curious as to the three years, like maybe she's met a few and was really not sure if this is what she's wanted or not. She seems to know what she wants. She mentioned commitment to me. So, that would make me WOVO, if i did that. I've been considering it.

Posted by: freebird

M H
My own personal opinion is this, I would not go "exclusive" with one girl until I had sent out at least 2 dozen intro letters. When you get back some replies you can decide which one you think is the best match. I would advise that when you send intro letters {after describing yourself & asking questions} that you say you are thinking of making a trip later in the summer. Make sure to ask in your letter for a phone # and e-mail #.

Then if the girl you are writing wants to go "exclusive", you simply tell her that you are planning to go there to see her and only her. This is your "plan A", and is the only plan you need if everything works out. I would not get into a "write only me - I write only you" deal, because if things work out then it won't matter if you wrote others, if it does not work out you will regret not preparing a backup plan.

However if things do not work out, you had earlier got back a few replies from girls expressing interest, and with a phone #'s. Call up your "Plan B" girl and say you are visiting Ukraine, and would like to meet her for lunch or something.

Posted by: MadHatter

Free Bird,

Yes, that's a good idea. I do have a few ladies that I'm writing right now, have most of their contact information as well. So, I'll pick a couple and just meet at least three or more, on my first trip. I'll meet this one lady first and see how it goes, if it goes good, then I'll just spend the time with her. If not, I'll contact the other ones and meet them in Moscow.

Posted by: Chillidog

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Originally Posted by freebird

Freebird,

in this I agree. When looking at a profile (I do not know what sites MH is using?) I look at the date of their last activity, not how long they have been listed. To me if they are active that is all that matters to me.

as you say to send a letter to a stale profile will probably in 99% of cases net you no response. If they have been active atleast within the last month, the odds are they are still searching. So I never pay attention to when their profile was first opened.

Posted by: Chillidog

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

I've been in contact with this lady, that has had her profile on the site for three years. I was taking a fresh start and picked out a few to send intro letters to, I also had gotten a few myself. She wrote me back the next day, said she was glad to get my letter. We've exchanged a number of letters, talked on the phone and some video chats as well. She seems very nice, as I can tell, from her letters and our phone/video chats. I mean, I feel comfertable with her, at this point. I was just curious as to the three years, like maybe she's met a few and was really not sure if this is what she's wanted or not. She seems to know what she wants. She mentioned commitment to me. So, that would make me WOVO, if i did that. I've been considering it.

MH

1st) "wondering if she has met a few and was really not sure if this is what she wanted or not"

How old is she? have you asked her if she has met any foreigners?

2nd) WOVO

I am a "VO"

but I would never recommend WO prior to the first meeting. Freebird said it well. You may (I think we all do) have a preference of one women you write to over others, but so many things can happen even before you get on the plane to meet them that it just is not smart (to me) to not hedge your bets. Look at it like the stock market---not wise to put all eggs in one basket (again before you meet).

Travel always with a plan B----- it could be as simple as bringing with you the address of a local agency (contact this agency prior to leaving even if it is to just let them know you will be in the city and might want to stop in and view an album of their women) in case the chemistry is not there with girl #1

Posted by: MadHatter

The one that has been there for three years is quite active, although I have not asked if she has met any yet. She is 26, she turns 27 in the fall.

She can understand me pretty much when we have our phone calls, as long as I talk slow enough and I can understand some of her Russian as well.

Right now, I'm checking on things to get there, time off, flights, visa, etc. I will have a back up plan in place before I go, just in case, plan A with this lady fails.

Posted by: GoingToRussia

Welcome back MadHatter, have you been "finding the one" this past month?

Posted by: MadHatter

Hello going to russia, good to be back, still a little under the weather. But, yes I do have one in mind, I think it may be the perfect one for me, so I think I'll be going WOVO

Posted by: GoingToRussia

Okay, sounds good. Any plans on when you will be traveling? Keep us informed and best of luck to you!

Posted by: vic2012

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Originally Posted by Chillidog

a woman 3 years looking..... big deal!

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Originally Posted by Chillidog

In general terms as the women gets older (with or without a child) in a FSU country the harder it is for her to find a good genuine FSU man to marry. Even the older 40+ FSU men are looking for the young 20's women to have for a wife or mistress. Also as mentioned earlier by GTR only 5% of us foreigner's even travel to see a woman they are writing to. Whether she is picky or not, whether she has a child or not, a women 30+ in FSU will have a hard time in finding a decent man to marry, foreign or local.

She wasn't too complimentery about Russian men, whom she felt were more egotistical and were none too keen to take on other fathers' kids. And as for health, they have a much reduced life expectancy (less than 59 years, compared with 73 for US). Then there's the life which leads to those shorter lives:
Demographic and health-care experts say that the chief factors behind the poor figures are alcohol abuse, psychological stress caused by economic uncertainty, widespread smoking, poor personal-safety practices, an unhealthy diet and a general lack of exercise.

So, she looked abroad..........and there I was!

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

It just goes to show you that a middle aged man can get a beautiful wife who is also dedicated, serious about marriage, and intelligent. The media sometimes tries to put a scam twist on things and yes it happens but there are more "real" women out there then scammers.

I've heard so many people say they can't find a "10" so they don't look for one. I am far from anything special but both the girls I got to know were both models in their younger days and are still very attractive.

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Originally Posted by Chillidog

a woman 3 years looking..... big deal!

Posted by: blucatz

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Originally Posted by vic2012

So, she looked abroad..........and there I was!

Good thing you combed your hair for your picture then......LOL

Posted by: Chillidog

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Originally Posted by vic2012

Whilst my wife was home from her jetsetting last week (she's in DME as I write, on her way back to Omsk), we got to talking about why she put ME in the frame, when it came to finding a long term partner. And to my astonishment (as she's never really mentioned this before), she felt that she was 'over the hill' at 32, especially with a young child. And looking at 45+ men gave her hope of finding a good partner, without having to wait a few years.

Chilli nailed this one:
She wasn't too complimentery about Russian men, whom she felt were more egotistical and were none too keen to take on other fathers' kids. And as for health, they have a much reduced life expectancy (less than 59 years, compared with 73 for US). Then there's the life which leads to those shorter lives:
Demographic and health-care experts say that the chief factors behind the poor figures are alcohol abuse, psychological stress caused by economic uncertainty, widespread smoking, poor personal-safety practices, an unhealthy diet and a general lack of exercise.

So, she looked abroad..........and there I was!

Vic,

How was the time alone with your wife? I assume she is on her way back to Omsk to retrieve your son, at least this is what my "old" mind remembers you writing when you said you were calling off your own plans to travel to Omsk to meet up with your wife and child.

Me and Blucatz will be in Omsk in 3 weeks, really looking forward to this meeting!!!! (my friend that is) though I am also looking forward to meeting Blucatz as well

edit: I should add Vic from the pics of your wife, it is hard to understand what these Russian men are thinking????

The lady I go to meet is 37 with a 14 year old son, and her feelings are I think very similar to your wifes when you met her(about Russian men), and all I can say is "LUCKY ME!!!!"

Posted by: Chillidog

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Originally Posted by MadHatter

Hello going to russia, good to be back, still a little under the weather. But, yes I do have one in mind, I think it may be the perfect one for me, so I think I'll be going WOVO

MH,

that is how it has been for me as well. I started writing many and one always stood out for me (but I never did date more than one, even when I was young)

I hope things keep going good.

When you do travel will this be your first trip to Russia or an FSU country?

Posted by: vic2012

You only have to look at a large site like 1st-international.com to see that, there are lots of good looking women who feel they have a better chance of finding a suitable partner by looking to Europe and America. But the (non)availability of suitable Russian men is only part of it. Many women feel they can do better for themselves by living abroad, which was good news for guys like me, because they tend to be less picky!

I said in a previous thread that, my wife and I had become extremely close over the last year. And this has come about as she has got to know me as a PERSON and as a father for her son. (for whom, I am now Dad). When we got married, we were still strangers to some extent.

I wrote yesterday to emphasise the fact that women will hang on for years looking for the right guy and the right opportunity. So if a girl has been on a site for three years, it doesn’t mean a lot. The first FSU woman I met said the quality of replies she had received had been very poor and she had not had a long correspondence with anyone.

Also, about a year after I started writing to my wife to be, I looked again, at my original file of women that, I had thought about writing to. To my surprise more than half were still listed on the two sites that, I had used a year earlier (and many had been on for a year before that). And you know….most were super fit too! I mean REAL lookers.

You don’t even have to be wealthy. If you’re a nice and truthful guy and can write a good letter………..you’re in!

BTW Chilli,
Yes shes gone back to get the nipper. She's returning on Sunday and he starts his second year of school next week.

So Chilli, you think you're lucky...................How do think I feel!!!!

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by vic2012

You only have to look at a large site like 1st-international.com to see that, there are lots of good looking women who feel they have a better chance of finding a suitable partner by looking to Europe and America.

I guess all the good guys from Australia are taken!

Posted by: Chillidog

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Originally Posted by vic2012

You don’t even have to be wealthy. If you’re a nice and truthful guy and can write a good letter………..you’re in!

BTW Chilli,
Yes shes gone back to get the nipper. She's returning on Sunday and he starts his second year of school next week.

So Chilli, you think you're lucky...................How do think I feel!!!!

If that statement does not give us "average Joe's" a boost of confidence nothing will.

Vic,

I am sure it will be a great to again be all together (even if the little nipper was only away for a month or two?). Maybe one day we will be fortunate to all be in Omsk at the same time.

I believe anyone who is in a happy relationship is "lucky" even if the woman is a knockout supermodel, there has to be something good from the man to keep the marriage succesful.

But in my humble opinion we the man, have so much to be thankful for when we find a good woman!

Posted by: azamuner

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Originally Posted by Chillidog

I believe anyone who is in a happy relationship is "lucky" even if the woman is a knockout supermodel, there has to be something good from the man to keep the marriage succesful.

But in my humble opinion we the man, have so much to be thankful for when we find a good woman!

Amen brother!

Posted by: vic2012

Most of my jottings, these days, have been recycled from previous threads. As is the one where, I was on Match.com in the UK for about a year and got just two replies. And when I looked to FSU I was inundated. Admitted that, I was with Anastesia and virtually all were ‘Anastesia’s matchmaking’ replies.

But it still gave me real confidence.

In many ways I am still a novice at this, as my wife to be, was in the first batch of intros that, I sent. So, I haven’t actually had much experience in the searching process. But I can honestly say that, the decision to look for a partner in FSU was the best I ever made.

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Originally Posted by Chillidog

But in my humble opinion we the man, have so much to be thankful for when we find a good woman!

You know Chilli, if everything went tits up tomorrow, I would still be eternally thankful for the wonderful year I’ve had.

Posted by: Chillidog

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Originally Posted by vic2012

if everything went tits up tomorrow, I would still be eternally thankful for the wonderful year I’ve had.

this to me is the "deffinition" of a succesful relationship.

Knowing that things could change at any moment, and therefore never taking anything for granted, in the woman or the relationship.

This is the attitude that is needed to make marriages work!!!!

Posted by: EasyTarget

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Originally Posted by vic2012

You know Chilli, if everything went tits up tomorrow, I would still be eternally thankful for the wonderful year I’ve had.

Vic: forgive me for being terribly blunt here; but I highly suspect the first thing to go tits up in your relationship will be you -- you old bugger. But considering that you have found the fountain of youth, in Victoria, I expect that will take 30 or 40 years from now.