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Originally Posted by Jongleur
I wonder if it would be better to abandon the appeal and get married in Ukraine after we have met a few more times.
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Originally Posted by Jongleur
My girlfriend recently applied for a fiance visa which was rejected and I would like some advice on what to do next.
The application was rejected due to the ECO not being satisfied that we have a significant relationship, the short time we have known each other and that he didn't believe we planned to live together after marriage. We only started corresponding at the start of the year and we have met just once, when I visited her in home city of Kharkov in February. It appears from the rejection statement that the ECO only considered the emails as evidence of our relationship because he did not mention the phone calls. I think that this may be because I was not able to provide itemised telephone bills showing the phone calls to my girlfriend's home number. I use a telephone service to take advantage of the cheaper rate, so only the number of this service shows on my bill and I wasn't able to get anything from the telephone company to show that I was calling her. To compound the problem, my telephone bills are e-Bills and not original copies sent to my home address. Of course, I provided print outs of these bills with my application together with details of the telephone service but I guess that this was not high enough quality evidence. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and I was worriied at the time that it may have been too soon to make the application but my girlfriend had a job on a cruise ship and the next contract was due to begin in February and would last for 9 months. It would have been very difficult even to exchange emails whilst she was on the ship and in view of the difficulties in staying touch over such a long period, we decided to take the riisk and apply for the visa early. We have the right to appeal the decision, but we would need grounds in order to do so. I was hoping we could appeal on the grounds that the ECO didn't consider the fact that we talk on the phone regularly as evidence of our relationship. We also exchanged 2 snail mail letters. If the ECO sticks to his guns, the whole appeal process will take about 7 to 8 months and should this happen, I wonder if it would be better to abandon the appeal and get married in Ukraine after we have met a few more times. Anyway, your advice would be appreciated! |
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Originally Posted by Jongleur
One reason I decided against applying for the tourist visa was that my girlfriend is unemployed because she didn't take up the job on the cruise ship. After reading some of the threads on RMP I gathered that this could be a problem and lead to a rejection. I.e. on the grounds that the applicant should have a compelling reason to return.
We have plans to go on holiday together in June. Could you suggest a country, preferably in Europe, where she either won't require a visa or it would be relatively easy to obtain? |
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Originally Posted by Jongleur
We have plans to go on holiday together in June. Could you suggest a country, preferably in Europe, where she either won't require a visa or it would be relatively easy to obtain?
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
would not Turkey or Egypt be just as easy for a FSU women to get a Visa, as GTR states Bulgaria would be relativly easy for a FSU women.
My question is why a neutral country? if your FSU women has no job, would it not be better to see her in her home town? |
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Originally Posted by Jongleur
Good question, but I already visited her in her home town of Kharkov in February. I would like take her away on holiday for our next meeting, somewhere hot and sunny and by the sea.
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
I can understand these thoughts, she may not want to stay in Ukraine, but you could also look into the Crimea (Sevastopol or Yalta), or even Sochi in Russia, they of course would be easy for her to travel to, but you may be looking for something more "exotic" or not wanting to go thru the hassel of getting a visa for yourself, just throwing these out as options, if money is a concern.
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Originally Posted by AkMike
Turkey or Egypt would fit the bill and be the least expensive from the FSU. Look at BlueCatz's thread about Egypt.
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). Unless you detour thru Moscow like me, then its very reasonable, but you need the visa thing also.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
But, like I found out the hard way, going anywhere in Egypt other than Cairo is a boatload of money for airfare (still trying to figure out why, I think its the landing fee's they charge american airliners as compared to Russian based airlines
). Unless you detour thru Moscow like me, then its very reasonable, but you need the visa thing also. |
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Originally Posted by Jongleur
Good question, but I already visited her in her home town of Kharkov in February. I would like take her away on holiday for our next meeting, somewhere hot and sunny and by the sea.
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Originally Posted by Jongleur
We have plans to go on holiday together in June. Could you suggest a country, preferably in Europe, where she either won't require a visa or it would be relatively easy to obtain? |
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