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Originally Posted by clark
If you don't understand the Russian they'll be speaking to each other and you, try your best to follow the hand gestures. Rule of thumb is don't give them anything to flag you for and it's generally pretty painless
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Please tell me they speak some english. I would at least like to know if its OK to go or I have to do something else.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
If the forms are so easy to fill out and understand, what the heck takes them so long at the passport control station?
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Originally Posted by blucatz
If the forms are so easy to fill out and understand, what the heck takes them so long at the passport control station?
 Whats involved going thru customs in Moscow?  Any special thing I need to be aware of? I know these may seem like simple questions to all you veteran travelers, but I have not been outside the country (Canada does not count) since 1983 and everything has changed. I asked my Lady what was involved here, but she has'nt been thru SVO2 in a number of years and didn't know. I just want to get thru this part as quickly and as painlessly as possible so I can get started on the fun part of the trip    14 Days to Moscow  |
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Originally Posted by BluesTraveler
Fill out both sides of the white immigration form, off the plane, run down to passport control, stand in line -- never enough workers, get things stamped twice, wait at the baggage carousel, in the hopes your luggage isn't lost, pick up your bags, go up to the customs guy, put your bag on tiny customs x-ray machine, get through customs, and finally out to the arrivals area, have 20 guys ask you if you need a taxi while looking for your friend.
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Originally Posted by TheWongs
Only 20 taxi drivers at the airport in Moscow at one time? WoW!! In Kiev it's about 50 - 100!!
Don't get stressed! It's travelling... It's supposed to be fun! Can't help thinking back to my first time landing in Kiev. I had all the same worries, but there is always someone who speaks English and there's always a traveller to chat with and maybe get a little help or advice. |
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Originally Posted by TheWongs
Only 20 taxi drivers at the airport in Moscow at one time? WoW!! In Kiev it's about 50 - 100!!
Don't get stressed! It's travelling... It's supposed to be fun! Can't help thinking back to my first time landing in Kiev. I had all the same worries, but there is always someone who speaks English and there's always a traveller to chat with and maybe get a little help or advice. |
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
LOL yeah in Kiev you have to practically have a rugby scrum with them all before they let you out the building, they are a nightmare. Of course the quick and to the point words of a lovely UW who usually meets me there
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
I've been through them both many times Chilli and I think Kiev has Moscow beat for shear numbers of bloodsucking cabbies
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, but I will yeild to your expertise in this 
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
Having experienced only Moscow, can't imagine that Kiev could be worse
, but I will yeild to your expertise in this , not sure now that I should continue to write Mariupol and Sumy |
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, but reading all these reports about cabbies in airports has me wondering, are they this bad in St. Petersburg's Airport?
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Originally Posted by TheWongs
Capitol city airports... The worst in the world (that I've landed in) was Simferopol. The runway is worse than the surrounding fields and the taxi drivers are in such force that you can't get out of the exit without dragging your case over them and pushing them out of the way! For the millionth time... This is not an exaggeration!
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well if you are now going to talk about other city airports, I can tell ya a few horror stories
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
I've told you 6 billions times already, don't exagurate
well if you are now going to talk about other city airports, I can tell ya a few horror stories But not now |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Im only interested in SVO2 and the airport in Hurghada, tell me some story's about those airports and if I need a body guard or not.....LOL
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Im only interested in and the airport in Hurghada
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Originally Posted by eddie465
Not that it will matter in the forseeable future
, but reading all these reports about cabbies in airports has me wondering, are they this bad in St. Petersburg's Airport? |
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Originally Posted by eddie465
Not that it will matter in the forseeable future
, but reading all these reports about cabbies in airports has me wondering, are they this bad in St. Petersburg's Airport? |
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Originally Posted by Texas Proud
Find out where you are staying in Hurghada... I thought I had my transportation paid for with my ladies travel, but nothing was there... got taken by a cab driver.... made it look like his 'boss' etc. controlled all of them... they don't...
My cab ride should have been in the $20 range.. but paid $45 since I did not know how far I was going... So ASK your hotel what it costs and if they can have someone pick you up... The rest of the time we were taken around by the hotel bus or a tour bus for a trip... Go on a boat trip... I went on two, but did not go swimming as I looked after the little one... but she had a blast... and the trip was fun anyhow... Not much else to do or see unless you take a long trip to see the Pyramids etc... |
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
Blue,
I've never been to Egypt, but I think you gotta go see the Pyramids, they are 1 of the seven wonders of the world, I think your lady would really enjoy seeing something you cannot see every day. Just my thoughts. |
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
Blue,
I've never been to Egypt, but I think you gotta go see the Pyramids, they are 1 of the seven wonders of the world, I think your lady would really enjoy seeing something you cannot see every day. Just my thoughts. |
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Originally Posted by Texas Proud
Blu....
From what I was told... this is the second best diving location in the world for corals behind Australia.... so YES, there is LOTS of diving boats... HUNDREDS... the boats are for snorkeling or diving... we went on two of them and my lady and her older son took a short diving lesson... both enjoyed it a lot... The beach was not anything to write home about... the hotel we had had a private beach you had to take a bus... and it was in a cove... but better than others I have seen... There is a nightlife area with food and shopping... a real tourist trap... but the only place to go... I did not do any dancing, but I bet there is that available there... If you are staying in an all inclusive.... be prepared for the awful food... it is OK, but not good to me... but the Russians and Germans loved it... ALSO, be prepared to be 'harassed'.... they do NOT get many Americans... at least almost every place I went they would tell me this.... the biggest tourist are the Russians, Germans and then the Scandanavian countries.... England has a good number of people going also... that is how I got a cheap flight, flying into London and taking one of their tourist flights... |
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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
WOW ... HUBBA HUBBA!!!
Very nice Blu, best of luck to you! Have a safe and enjoyable trip. |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Nice huh? Funny thing is that her profile pics do not look much like she does in real life. She had those "Glamour Shots" type pics. The first time I seen her on cam, I was very, very pleased, she looked much better.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Nice huh? Funny thing is that her profile pics do not look much like she does in real life. She had those "Glamour Shots" type pics. The first time I seen her on cam, I was very, very pleased, she looked much better.
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
Blu,
Very nice!!! I am getting more and more excited for you, looks like you will be having a wonderful time!!!! Good luck |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Thanks Chilli, she just sent me a pic of her picking up the spare, the backside view. OMG! Is it May 12th yet......LOL. Definately love those jeans.
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it is only one week away. Now if it was your lady we had to administer mouth-to-mouth to, I think we would 'be all in' 
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
Blu,
Just remember your age, relax, breath deep, we do not want you to faint, and have to administer mouth-to-mouth, it is only one week away. Now if it was your lady we had to administer mouth-to-mouth to, I think we would 'be all in' It will be a good time, just relax and enjoy |
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Originally Posted by AkMike
I'm still waiting for my care package!
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Originally Posted by royalpalace774
GOOD LUCK ON YOUR TRIP BLU. I bet you are excited. If I am correct this is your 1st time out of the box. The pic of your women is nice also. I hope everything goes well. I'm rootin for ya!
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Look in the sky on May 12th about 11am, be sure to wear your helmet, my aim is not what it used to be.
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We're going to be passing you as we wing west towards home... Maybe next time.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Here's a question I hope someone can answer. I think I read somewhere that you cannot take Russian Rubles out of the country. If I get some rubles to use the first night in Moscow, do I have to spend them all or can I take up to a certain amount out of Russia and use them when I get back at the end of the trip?
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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
It is law that you can not take rubles out of Russia. Yes people do but don't get caught. Why take a chance?
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Originally Posted by blucatz
So all the Russians who leave on vacation have to leave all the rubles at home? I can't just give my lady what I have left over and let her carry it?
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
Blu,
also check on Egypt's requirements on how much money you can bring in, for a US citizen and a Russian Citizen just to be on the safe side that you are not bringing more money into their country then Egypt allows. |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Im only gonna bring about $100 into Egypt, just enuf to cover the 2 visa's and a cab to the hotel when we get there. I will use the ATM card the rest of the time.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Here's a question I hope someone can answer for me. Here in the states we have Mothers day coming up on the 11th, do they have the same thing in Russia or something similar at this time? Was wondering if I should bring a Mothers Day type gift to my Lady when I see her.
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Blu
No they have International Womens Day that is bigger than anything, also just cause the US has Mothers Day soon, doesn't mean every other country has it at the same time, for example in the UK we had ours last month. So there is no reason why a women from the FSU would even know about the US Mothers Day. About Valentines Daym they are cottoning on to this a lot more now, and I sent my lady some flowers for that day also, of course the agencies, flower and card companies are all jumping on the bandwagon too as they see it is a nother money making opportunity that they had previously missed |
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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
Yes that's correct. When making an international call to the USA from Russia use the following dialing codes: 8 + 10 + 1 + (area code) + (local phone number).
Here's a wesite that will help. http://www.calling-codes-international.com/russia.html |
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smite • verb (past smote; past part. smitten) 1 archaic or literary strike with a firm blow. 2 archaic or literary defeat or conquer. 3 (be smitten) be affected severely by a disease. 4 (be smitten) be strongly attracted to someone or something. — ORIGIN Old English, to smear, blemish. |
| 3 (be smitten) be affected severely by a disease. 4 (be smitten) be strongly attracted to someone or something. |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
I for one do not believe that you can fall in love with someone over an email, pictures, web cams, and phone calls.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
LOL.....Thanks for all the clarifications. I guess I would have to disagree with my friend then. I for one do not believe that you can fall in love with someone over an email, pictures, web cams, and phone calls. But, if it was possible to me, then I guess I would be smitten because as of right now, she has everything that I am looking for in a woman, but I am not letting my emotions take control over me just yet.
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, well, I guess you will just have to wait till I get home.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
But of course, if there is a more exciting activity than posting
, well, I guess you will just have to wait till I get home.Once again, Thanks for everything. 1 Day to |
OK spending tiome with a smokinghotkova, I suppose could be better don't spend too much time in the sun
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Well, here it is half way thru the trip and I sit here trying to get Delta to change my flight and let me come home earlier. Things here started out great, the flights, SVO, we got along great, then things started to change, she seems to be just like every WW I have met in the past. Extremely demanding of my attention, everything is about her, I did not wish her a happy birthday within the first 30 seconds after she woke up and I thought she was going to blow a gasket over it. During the whole trip I cannot get her to tell me how she is feeling or any thoughts about us and our future. I was getting the feeling that she has no feelings for me in that manner at all, which for me is a waste of my time and money here. We had kind of a blow out over it last night when I told her I was tired of playing the mind games and I wanted some serious answers to our relationship questions. Her only answer was that she wasn't gonna tell me. She is far form the type of FSU woman I was prepared to meet. Does not care about my needs or wants, and to top it all off, Egypt SUCKS! OMG, it is so dirty here, only person that understands me is the woman I brought, the food sucks, the sand on the beach is just a little smaller than driveway gravel. The hotel is suppose to be 3 stars, by US standards its more like .5 stars.
Right now I just want to go home and away from this waste of my time. 6 Months of my life I will never get back. I don't know why she is so secretive, I don't believe she is a scammer, she has paid for things while here, some major excursions and such, so I don't know what the hell is happening with her and I. Well, I will post more later, I want a beer and a smoke now before heading back to the room and the wonderful atmosphere there.... |
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Originally Posted by Chillidog
Blucatz,
I am really sorry to hear this news, and that you also are not even enjoying Egypt. I was really hoping that things would turn out good for you. All I can say is to try and take away from this some positives use this trip and experience in the future. I know you were meeting in Egypt because you felt even if things went south with the lady you could still enjoy your vacation and this was your back-up plan, it just appears that mentally you are not even about to do this at this time. I am a VO type and it may hurt at this time to read this but it is not my intentions to do this, this for me is why I would rather meet the woman in her home town, because if it goes south you still have the chance or opportunity if you wish to meet other woman. You did what you felt was best for yourself and what you were most comfortable with, this is what we all need to do. My advice to you if you read this before you leave Egypt, is to make the best of your time there, to forget about the future and just live for today, enjoy what days you have left as best as you can Truly sorry Bob |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Extremely demanding of my attention,
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Originally Posted by blucatz
I did not wish her a happy birthday within the first 30 seconds after she woke up and I thought she was going to blow a gasket over it.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
During the whole trip I cannot get her to tell me how she is feeling or any thoughts about us and our future. I was getting the feeling that she has no feelings for me in that manner at all, which for me is a waste of my time and money here.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
We had kind of a blow out over it last night when I told her I was tired of playing the mind games and I wanted some serious answers to our relationship questions.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Her only answer was that she wasn't gonna tell me.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
She is far form the type of FSU woman I was prepared to meet. Does not care about my needs or wants,
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Originally Posted by blucatz
and to top it all off, Egypt SUCKS! OMG, it is so dirty here, only person that understands me is the woman I brought, the food sucks, the sand on the beach is just a little smaller than driveway gravel. The hotel is suppose to be 3 stars, by US standards its more like .5 stars.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Right now I just want to go home and away from this waste of my time. 6 Months of my life I will never get back.
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Originally Posted by Pin Boy
...really the relationship has just started - throw out the 6 months of writing and treat it as a first date. would you ask such questions on a first date? be tolerant of her and the egyptians. why should you expect they understand you? you're the foreigner in this situation....pb
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Egypt SUCKS! OMG, it is so dirty here, only person that understands me is the woman I brought, the food sucks, the sand on the beach is just a little smaller than driveway gravel. The hotel is suppose to be 3 stars, by US standards its more like .5 stars.
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Originally Posted by TheWongs
I'm sorry, but I find it hard to understand how the trip is a waste of money just because they never hit it off. If that's the way we should look at it, then none of us should ever fly anywhere to meet anyone! I never regarded my first disaster as a waste of money... Quite the reverse. It was a great learning experience and a chance to see another part of the world. I went there knowing that there was a chance of it not working out and so did blucatz.
I say... Blucatz... Good on you for having the bottle to get out there and do it! Also.... Don't let it get you down! Move onwards and upwards. Next time, fly to Ukraine or Russia to meet someone, or just go there for a trip and see who you meet along the way. It works!!! |
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
Hurray! Nice ta hear ya made it through the 1st major test!
All along I felt you had hooked a good one! LOL! I had sortta the same thing happen with my wife about expressing feelings! About 3 months after I met my wife it dawned on me I hadn't proposed to her in a traditional fashion. Near the end of my 2nd month I dropped to 1 knee and proposed to her again. Damn that was a big mistake! She wouldn't give me an answer and man did she get pissed! This was something that had already been done and was interpretted as doubts about my feelings for her. |
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Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Hey Blu,
Some of the guys here are bringing up some stuff that you might have done or not done. These women are not like the women here in the U.S. Did you have a birthday gift for her when she woke up on her birthday ? Did you make her pay for anything else when you were together ? Did you expect her to worship the ground you walk on because you traveled to be with her ? Did you open doors for her ? Did you treat her special ? Do you think she wasn't attracted to you ? Did you try & make any romantic advances to fast ? There are many more questions here that can come up. Only you know what happened when you were there. I think I remember you saying that it was good in the beginning and that it went bad after a while. What do you think you did that changed everything? I am curious myself. Did you dress nice or in ripped up shorts & sandels. Sometimes there are things we do that we are not aware that these women consider negative traits in us. I for one dress in T shirts & jeans because I live in tropical weather. But when I visit the fsu I have a whole other set of clothes that I wear to not make me look like a hobo. I'm not coming down on you, but I and the others here are probably eager to hear why you think things went wrong. Other than that I hope that you can put this trip behind you & get in the water again. |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
LOL.... Thats one thing I have learned about RW, they do not express their emotions that much. Even the ones I know here at home, if you didn't know they were in a relationship, you would never know. But, at the same time, she had no problems displaying her emotions towards me in public at all, just couldn't get the verbal form from her till later. How were you suppose to propose to your wife? Was the first time not the right way or what?
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After a couple of hours she couldn's hold it back. What did you get me for our anniversary? I said I figured we just go to a nice restaurant. Well that didn't cut it! As the day progressed she just became more and more pissed! It was beginning to look like we weren't going to make it to the restaurant! We ate dinner and were pretty much finished. I damn near had to push her to go to the bathroom. She always does before we leave a restaurant. While she was gone I placed a little box on the table. She came out of the bathroom and I could almost see smoke rising behind her. She sat back down and didn't even notice the box! She just had this intent glare focussed on me! After a minute or 2 she finally noticed the box. She opened it and there sat a much nicer ring than she had tried to persuade me to buy for her for our anniversarey. It was our third anniversary so I bought her the classic 3 stone anniversary ring for her with the stones she tried to get me to buy before. YEAP! I won that one! Damn she had to tuck her tail and I was eating it up! |
Originally Posted by blucatz
Ok, lets go down your list RP
1. I had a gift, was going to give it to her at dinner that night, just didn't know to say "happy birthday" within the first 30 seconds after she opened her eyes. |
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Originally Posted by blucatz
It ended up being like someone posted earlier that FSU women thinks that we (men) just ought to know things.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
I was determined not to waste this trip. I sat down and cleared up a few things with my Lady and it turned out to be one of those cultural difference things again.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
What was cool about it was that after the talk, the subject was never brought up again.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
I read somewhere on this forum about "Minx Magic", it is definitely true, I am under that spell and it feels good.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
Oh, and Egypt still sucked.....LOL
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
LOL! I will relate my experience with my wife to you. When it comes to gifts and giving salutations on birthday's,anniversaries,etc. My wife is very impatient! I had never in my life experienced a person who starts informing a month or 2 in advance I should buy her a present for such and such. Sometimes tries to get me to buy her a present and give it way before the fact(and yes she has succeded). Well this is against my hospetania(upbringing). I decided to play it out on our last anniversary. We got up and I wished her a happy anniversary. I could immediately see it in her eyes....where's my present!
After a couple of hours she couldn's hold it back. What did you get me for our anniversary? I said I figured we just go to a nice restaurant. Well that didn't cut it! As the day progressed she just became more and more pissed! It was beginning to look like we weren't going to make it to the restaurant! We ate dinner and were pretty much finished. I damn near had to push her to go to the bathroom. She always does before we leave a restaurant. While she was gone I placed a little box on the table. She came out of the bathroom and I could almost see smoke rising behind her. She sat back down and didn't even notice the box! She just had this intent glare focussed on me! After a minute or 2 she finally noticed the box. She opened it and there sat a much nicer ring than she had tried to persuade me to buy for her for our anniversarey. It was our third anniversary so I bought her the classic 3 stone anniversary ring for her with the stones she tried to get me to buy before. YEAP! I won that one! Damn she had to tuck her tail and I was eating it up! I am curious if other guys here have wives who do the same? I would be willing to wager the majority will say yes. |
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Originally Posted by BC
After we talked about the misunderstanding, it was never mentioned again, which was great. Fix the problem, learn from it and move on.
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Originally Posted by blucatz
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