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Big Mistake? = Great Insight?
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Posted by: ap101

O.K. here is my dilemma. I have been corresponding with a few girls. I sent a pretty long letter to two of them that I really like. I used the same letter....I think you can see where this is going. Well, anyways, both of their profiles say they are excellent at English, and I believe it after reading so many emails from women who are not as proficient at English as they are. I must say though, that ALL of them speak more English, than I do Russian, and I respect that, but that is true the Whole world over.

Let's get back on track. I sent the same long Email to two girls, I do send them personal ones but this one was long and I didn't have the time to do it twice. The first girl her name is Zhanna, and she wrote me back and asked if my next letter could be shorter. Now, she did make comments on a lot of the things I said in the letter, and she seems very interested in me. Her replies to me usually take a few days to a week, that, to me, seems pretty genuine, if it was Ivan, wouldn't HE respond immediately, or at least within a day or two...more money, more money, more money!!! Each email sent costs me, emails received are free. The sooner HE sends one to me the sooner I PAY to send one back.

Now, the second girl's name is Oksana. I sent her the same letter, but I forgot to replace her name with Zhanna's in one place. I changed it in the other places where I had a name, but I missed one. She responded to me and the first line was that she is not Zhanna, and maybe I was intending to write the letter to Zhanna and not her. Then she said, that she hopes that it was a misprint and that I really wanted to send it to her, because she wants to get to know me better. The rest of her letter was very nice and continued on like nothing ever happened.

So, as for the first girl do you think she wants the letters shorter because it is Ivan and he doesn't want to read the whole thing, to pick out what to reply to. I don't think so, because long or short he could still pick out what he wants to reply to, right??

As for the second girl, it seems to me that if it were Ivan, he never would have commented on getting a letter with two names on it, a woman WOULD but I don't think any male would say something, I think we would think about it and try and figure it out but we wouldn't say something, would we??. He certainly would not have cared, he's getting his money regardless if the names are correct or not, but that could be a very clever facade.

It is possible that by letting me know that SHE knows I screwed up, maybe he can hear the cash register going CHA-CHING CHA-CHING. We all know, and they do to, that western men like to pay for their mistakes when we wrong a woman no matter how small the mistake was, and I mean Monetarily (gifts,flowers, etc.), money can buy anything right!!! I am just kidding, I do not have that point of view and I do not have the cash to live that way anyways.

I have noticed something else about this site, I don't know whether this is good or bad. This site offers live chat and video chat. I have noticed the same girls online, they start around the same time and they get off around the same time, not exact though it is not like it is their SHIFT. My point is, everyone has schedules and times that are more conducive to our search. It is easy for us, because ALL of us have computers at home, and they don't. It stands to reason that they are online when their schedule allows them to and that it is not a job.

I see the same girls on everyday, not always at the same time or until the same time but usually within an hour or two, they are usually from big cities like Odessa. This, to me, also seems fairly legitimate (we only have time, when we have time, its probably the same for them). Some of the girls are always on for Video chat, which they would have to get made up for that.

One girl that I was corresponding to is on every day, but Video chat is not activated for her EVER, live chat is activated once she gets online, but she needs to activate Video chat. She is a smoking hot chick, more so than most, SHE/HE would be a huge earner if she was on Video Chat every night. For our Video chat we set up a time and day, so she could be ready, if it is a job for her wouldn't you think that she would do what some of the other girls do, they are on video chat almost everytime they log on. This is a good thing, I think, because I asked her pretty early to leave the site, so we could write to each other independently, She said she wanted to stay here for a while if it was ok with me because she needed some help with translating, her english is not excellent, the profile says good english, but I suspect it is fair not good. I told her that I needed to know that I was talking to her and not someone else so I asked her to send me a specific picture, and she suggested Video chat, I agreed, and it was her, I even had her wave to me a couple of times, Randomly, She did, I am pretty sure she is the real deal. This girl responded to my emails very fast almost everyday if I sent one to her, but like I said she lives in Odessa and is online almost everyday.

Sorry, to all of you who read this whole thing, I guess I am long winded, or long fingered.

Could someone add this to the main forum I would like to hear what many guys have to say about this!!

I think my eyes and ears are wide open, but they have been scamming longer than I have been a Target. So any and all feedback is much appreciated. I know I got more stuff to ask but this is enough for now.

Thanks fellas

P.S. my email I sent to them was a bit longer than this, but It was definitely more interesting..........Well, maybe not!!!!

Posted by: GoingToRussia

I don't know these agencies and I've never heard of anyone using them. It sounds like the company, not a few women, is the scammer here. I wouldn't trust or use this site.

I have had success with these sites:

www.freepersonals.ru
www.allsinglerussiangirls.com
www.elenasmodels.com

Good luck!

Posted by: stevo

I wouldn't automatically assume the women are scammers! If they are, it'll become apparent sooner or later.

Posted by: ap101

I don't think that they are scammers in fact quite the opposite, they seem like typical women, one only does the web chat, if she is looking her best, she doesn't go on it very often in fact only once when it was prearranged by us. She is online right now but not for Web Cam. She wanted to look her very best, very womanly in any country, american women may not care what they look like alot of the time but if you were to tell them that they would be chatting with a potential husband, or ANYONE halfway around the world, they WILL look their BEST, unless, of course, the person they are doing web cam with is their husband lol. The other one, it seems like it is a very human and womanly response to seeing someone elses name on a letter written. then there is the one who wants the letter a little shorter, not sure about that. The other two seem genuine. I'll find out though I sent one of them a letter today asking her to have her picture taken with the New York Times, The USA Today, or a large newspaper from her country so that I can look it up on the Internet. I also told her that I would like to chat with her away from the Agency......We shall see.. If I write too much let me know I will TRY to scale it down. Sometimes it takes a lot of words to get my point across. Thanks

Posted by: GoingToRussia

I'm not saying the women are scammers, I'm saying the company is ripping you off. They charge for e-mails and webcam conversations. The websites I mentioned don't do this. Everything is free or you pay a flat fee.

Honestly I think these girls are hired by the company to talk to guys. You say this one girl is on-line but doesn't talk because she doesn't look her best. It is probably someone else doing the writing and not her because she isn't working that night.

Just my opinion, I hope I'm wrong. Be careful and good luck.

Posted by: blucatz

By any chance this web site wouldn't be HotRussianBride*com would it? If it is, run away very fast, most of the women there get paid to be there to keep you online spending money for credits.

Posted by: GoingToRussia

No, they are Cherry Blossums and Dream Marriage.

Posted by: blucatz

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

No, they are Cherry Blossums and Dream Marriage.

You know I re-read that first post by ap101 twice now and I cannot find where he mentioned the name of the site....I think maybe my glasses need updating...LOL

Posted by: GoingToRussia

No, your eye-sight is fine. It started here on post #89, http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...78&page=6&pp=15.

I move it because ap101 rquested it.

Posted by: blucatz

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

No, your eye-sight is fine. It started here on post #89, http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...78&page=6&pp=15.

I move it because ap101 rquested it.

Good, cause I cleaned my glasses and tried again with no luck...LOL

Posted by: ap101

the site I was referring to is Dream Marriage, I don't use cherry blossoms anymore, I have credits left on dream marriage so I am going to use them up. I am on the site that GTR mentioned now. I am no sucker but I guess maybe a little naive when it comes to this. I will use my remaining credits to get the girls i am talking to to switch to my yahoo address. If they like me would they want to move away from the agency asap? Thanks

ap

Posted by: GoingToRussia

Maybe, sometimes they sign a form saying they can only use their agency. Other times the agencies filter out e-mail addresses and phone numbers.

Another way is to get their address from the agency, send them a few flowers, and ask the delivery person to get her e-mail or phone number for you and maybe a photo in case it is someone other then the girl you saw on the website, it might be her hairy scamming brother!

You can also have the delivery guy give her your e-mail address and phone number.

Good luck and wise move getting away from that agency. Which website are you using now?

Posted by: ap101

Hey GTR, you ROCK buddy, I have been reading alot on this forum and you have alot of great insights for everyone, none of us are truly newbies if we read what you and many of the others have to say. I can get her info after 3 months on the site and a certain amount of credits used. I just posted a new thread saying that I am discouraged by the amount of misfortunes and the lack of good experiences, I have a lot of resolve though and I will keep plugging along.

I read earlier that you took a flight out of Kalamazoo, are you from k-zoo I went to college at Western, I didn't graduate from there but I still have relatives who live there and in other places in Western Michigan. Keep up the good work you are our Knight in Shining Armour, Do you ride a white horse also.....

ap

Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap101

Hey GTR, you ROCK buddy, I have been reading alot on this forum and you have alot of great insights for everyone, none of us are truly newbies if we read what you and many of the others have to say. I can get her info after 3 months on the site and a certain amount of credits used. I just posted a new thread saying that I am discouraged by the amount of misfortunes and the lack of good experiences, I have a lot of resolve though and I will keep plugging along.

I read earlier that you took a flight out of Kalamazoo, are you from k-zoo I went to college at Western, I didn't graduate from there but I still have relatives who live there and in other places in Western Michigan. Keep up the good work you are our Knight in Shining Armour, Do you ride a white horse also.....

ap

Thanks ap101, I only post what I have learned from current and previous members ... well maybe a little on my own. Honestly, I've been at this over 2 years and I've learned a lot. Just sharing what I learned and know. I was a newbie at 1 time and many members educated me. I'm just returning the favor now. And yes there are many good members on this forum that can help anyone just as good or better than I.

I hope in about 6-8 weeks my time will be spent with my future wife from Moldova and her son. So my time here will be limited. I will of course log on, check my private messages (PM), and help out who ever I can. Many member also have my personal e-mail and I stay in touch this way. I'll be more then happy to share my e-mail with anyone that sends me a PM.

I live in Battle Creek which is about 25 minutes from the Kazoo airport. No I don't ride a white horse ... just a blue Honda CRV!!!

Take care ap101 and good luck with your search.