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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
Don't do it Ham, it's a scam!
You sound like you need a boost in your confidance. Maybe you need to seek professional help, it is never as bad as it appears. Good luck to you. |
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Originally Posted by bingism
Ham, I do wish you would get a grip of yourself, rather than keep posting such inane nonsense...
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...mission accomplished. 
| I do have a social utility value...making people exhibiting the most idiotic demeanor feel good about themselves by comparison ...mission accomplished. |
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Originally Posted by sidney
Don't try selling the ones your cousin squeezes with his buttcheeks.
Sid |
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Originally Posted by ham
I do have a social utility value...making the biggest idiots feel good about themselves by comparison
...mission accomplished. |
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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
Let's not start the name calling Ham.
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| I do have a social utility value...making people exhibiting the most idiotic demeanor feel good about themselves by comparison ...mission accomplished. |
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Originally Posted by ham
oooh! booh! Bad Ham offended inner circle member we all trust & love...shame on him.
hey! How comes none notices when I am told bad things, eh? Now let's wait for the line MINE are attacks and THEIRS simple opinions about content... Ok so I'll edit it here: everybody happy now? |
| ham, you'd have to try a damn sight harder than that to offend me... I have no idea what you are trying to prove to yourself or anyone else... It's a conundrum to me as to why you would spend your valuable time constantly devaluing this site and lowering yourself to the level of name calling and general (albeit sometimes veiled) digs at people. |
dislike my demeanor; they should buy a mirror some day. 
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Originally Posted by Lonestar
[Mercy...what'd I just stumble into, here...?]
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| There is a place in this world for voices that do more than 'blow sunshine up your skirt'. |
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Originally Posted by ira156
What the hell does Nigerian scams or wowmail or any of this crap have to do with Russian people or places or relationships???????
Have you got so desperate for attention that you have to dredge for these ridiculous "SCAMS"......or have you actually exposed every relationship scam in the world HAM and now starting on this garbage..........i will agree with you about one thing Ham......you got the first part of the post right....whether or not you are a millionare only you know?????? Cheers |
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| Ultimately, when someone (usually more than one) calls you out for posting perpetual pessimisim regarding a subject which you seem to have very little experience, you cry foul and resort to an "attack is the best form of defense" strategy. There is nothing veiled about my post or my fairly open criticism of what you continue to write. |
| Through your own admission, you would seem to have dipped your toe into this arena some years ago, got lightly burnt and now have no interest in Russia, other than to "protect" people and warn them of the dangers... in your words, "poor Barney" or "Wong" or "Abdul" (or whatever other stupid name you think of) needs your help to understand the reality of the world. |
| You know Ham, you're bleating on about "inner circle" is beginning to sound like sour grapes about something. You talk about stepping on big feet, as far as I'm concerned, there are no feet for you to step on. |
| You're whole post, whether you are willing to admit this or not, was spawned from another thread where you challenged a member to prove to you his own financial/professional status as it was too unbelievable for you. |
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Originally Posted by Longfellow
I learn to appreciate what Ham is saying 'underneath' the message.
It is sometimes difficult because sarcasm does not translate well in written language, especially when the speakers are not equally native. I would agree with the suggestion that, Ham, you share with us some variations of perspective. Sometimes, it appears that you wish to only share pessimism... I am sure you have more to say than that. Irregardless, I appreciate what you contribute because it is a voice not heard as frequently as we need to hear. Not everything is sweetness and nice, unless it is of American superficiality, da? ************************************************** ******* There is a place in this world for voices that do more than 'blow sunshine up your skirt'. |
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Originally Posted by Jerico
Heh , I guess he was banned.
I wonder why? Ya he sometimes was obnoxious but at least he spoke his mind. His post were entertaining to me ,LOL Theres probably something behind the scene i dont know about. Jerry |
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Originally Posted by French_Misha
I agree! He added some life to this forum, and added a unique perspective. And then they wonder why this place is dying!
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Don't fret guys, he will be back, he has done this over the years, dissappeared for months on end then reappeared with the same old same old S$%* words of wisdom!
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
Don't fret guys, he will be back, he has done this over the years, dissappeared for months on end then reappeared with the same old same old S$%* words of wisdom!
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Originally Posted by Jerico
Heh , I guess he was banned.
I wonder why? Ya he sometimes was obnoxious but at least he spoke his mind. His post were entertaining to me ,LOL Theres probably something behind the scene i dont know about. Jerry |
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Originally Posted by Longfellow
I think he is in 'time-out'.
He will be back, and hopefully with some of the same cynicism and maybe a little more useful contribution. We can only hope... |
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Originally Posted by bingism
OK mate... we can only hope that he'll be back to offer some useful insights into.... hmmmm.. what exactly.....??
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Originally Posted by Longfellow
I think he is in 'time-out'.
He will be back, and hopefully with some of the same cynicism and maybe a little more useful contribution. We can only hope... |
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Originally Posted by bingism
Cynicism is useful to a point, but it needs to be supported with genuine fact or educated opinion...
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Originally Posted by French_Misha
Yes, but what is genuine fact on a virtual forum where we never meet and see each other face to face? Ham's cynicism was trying to make a valid point: you have to be wary of the wonderful tales that people tell on the internet. Ham was trying to make legitimate point in most of his postings: you can't take things at face value and his cynicism was making in my opinion a valid contribution to many of the discussions.
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Originally Posted by azamuner
I didn't mind Ham's input even though most times it was negative. Every now and then he had some very good points so that will be missed.
My major issue was his overuse of non-sensical verbal diarrhea spattered with condescension. I am aware of the irony in that last sentence but it's just to prove that anyone can talk like that. |
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Originally Posted by bingism
OK mate... we can only hope that he'll be back to offer some useful insights into.... hmmmm.. what exactly.....??
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Originally Posted by French_Misha
Yes, but what is genuine fact on a virtual forum where we never meet and see each other face to face? Ham's cynicism was trying to make a valid point: you have to be wary of the wonderful tales that people tell on the internet. Ham was trying to make legitimate point in most of his postings: you can't take things at face value and his cynicism was making in my opinion a valid contribution to many of the discussions.
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Originally Posted by azamuner
You're right Freebird. The hardest part was just getting to the meat of the posts, but they usually contained useful information.
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Make a 30 minute speech to make 2 points!
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Originally Posted by bingism
Cynicism is useful to a point, but it needs to be supported with genuine fact or educated opinion...
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Originally Posted by freebird
Kind of like political types right?
Make a 30 minute speech to make 2 points! |
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Originally Posted by freebird
Kind of like political types right?
Make a 30 minute speech to make 2 points! |
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Originally Posted by azamuner
Still trying to sell that bridge Deccie?
j/kAt least many of us agree that Ham did contribute to the forum even if his methods were unique. |
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Originally Posted by freebird
Spakoyna, Jericho, Misha, Azamuner I have to agree too its never good to restrict free speech. As for "useful threads" how about the penultimate one - "Old Profiles" - I think it was a very good & valid thread about the danger of buying address or contacting a girl that has been on the agency for 2+ or 3+ years, which might not be immediately obvious when looking at the profile. It is possible or even likely that she is either no longer interested, OR perhaps there is some reason she is still single? (I found this out the hard way!!!)
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Originally Posted by freebird
Aza, where the heck is that!!
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Originally Posted by azamuner
Hehe. It's a rope bridge in Carrick Ireland.
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Originally Posted by waiting123
Aza, are you trying to sell my bridge?
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Originally Posted by Jerico
Heh , I guess he was banned.
I wonder why? Ya he sometimes was obnoxious but at least he spoke his mind. His post were entertaining to me ,LOL Theres probably something behind the scene i dont know about. Jerry |
I even find myself laughing when I read some of the stuff he writes. Usually when you throw a broadside out there you are bound to hit something. 
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Originally Posted by French_Misha
And, the thread also tried to get people to think more critically about the services that agencies such as Elena's offer. Is it not in their interest to sell the addresses of women that are no longer available? Ham was making a legitimate point: you cannot take the marketing of any company at face value.
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Originally Posted by goforit
Actually no it is not in their best interest to do such a thing. That doesn't mean they don't do it, but it is not in their best interest to do so.
Ham went FAR beyond telling us you can't take the marketing of marriage agencies at face value. Someone reading your statement above might wonder what the hullaboo was all about, since I don't think anyone in that thread disagreed with that sentiment. I mentioned numerous times in my interaction with Ham the validity of his general point, it was in the specifics where he got mucked up. |
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Originally Posted by ham
you make me laugh...
cry, cry your heart out...shout your despair to the world... reading your "true stories" there is no doubt who the "real loser" is, in comparison with a charachter living in a mobile home making $75 an hour answering ad emails... You take every chance to vent your anger at me, private individual, so this means your wonderful life must -after all- leave something to be desired and this is the answer. Well, I make people exhibiting serious psychological flaws feel better...i am a philanthropist... Bingism was taken, so I had to adjust accordingly...boy, are these great people or what? Notice that THEY say I am insane... I lost less than my shirt in it, which might probably be SOMEONE's case; I didn't get divorced six times, which might be someone else's case; I didn't get taken to court or to the cleaners, as SOME might have...but I can say I got close...so what? As for "attack", I am the most attacked person here, but who cares... No, they need clowns selling used cars made of success and optimism. Look, time ago one of these distinguished gentlemen had fun with me on this very frivulous basis ( Ham=bitter loser; He= wise winner ). Now go find him: his bubble burst and he "needs time to heal" If anyone ever jumped in head first believing these idiocy mongers, where are they? Or they'll be the first to laugh at you for not seeing the forest for the trees, if YOUR bubble bursts. Anyways, since you know me so well... Right...your seventeen posts and a few clowns who never miss a chance to attack me just prove there are no big feet whatsoever. There are no sour grapes...i want nothing to do with these people...I use that expression because should I systematically attack ONE individual like some do with me, I'd have 38 out of the 39 moderators here on my back...not so with other people. The purpose is clearly to "have me go", but wrong take. If we X-ray these "chosen few", past & present, there is nothing special about them...in comparison with Leroy squeezing oranges with his butt-cheeks in his mobile home. I say: buy a mirror one day. Eh? Second, I asked none to prove nothing...I just read their spontaneous wild claims stuffed with easy millions down the corner and then "proving" over the internet? The best I can do is earn $75 an hour reading ads. I met many charachters "larger than life" online, and of a few I later had forensic proof they weren't all that large...rather pretty small; you say I'm wrong...well, your problem. Now do we agree to disagree or do you have some spleen left to throw at me? |
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