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Did you know that women in Ukraine receive money from Govt. after they have a baby!
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Posted by: royalpalace774

I remember one night after dinner in Odessa walking with my girl and just talking about things. She told me that when a women in the Ukraine has her 1st child the Ukraine Govt. gives her $2000.00 US dollars when she has her 1st child. And they give her $5000.00 when she has her 2nd child.

I then said to my girl that I bet this is why many women don't marry men here And her reply was that I was correct in that assumption.

I asked her if this rule applies to a women who is married and she said if a women is married she does not receive this money.

Have any of you heard about this rule for women having children there ?

Posted by: Pin Boy

rp, i don't think that's all correct. but yes, women now (single or married i believe) receive a "stipend" for each child they have.yes, this is something new to try to stem the reducing population. i'll try to find the correct info and post it. i would guess someone who's much more knowledgable about this will beat me to the punch.

pb

Posted by: Chrismc

I heard about that happening now in Russia but not Ukraine

Posted by: sidney

Yes it is happening in ukraine also. My wife has a friend that just had her second child. I'm not sure of the amount of money involved though.
Sid

Posted by: Jill

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I asked her if this rule applies to a women who is married and she said if a women is married she does not receive this money.

That is not true. Married women receive money as well (not sure of the amount).

Posted by: Longfellow

Do fathers of these children, whether married or not, have obligation to support the child until adulthood or is entire responsiblity palced on mother?

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

Do fathers of these children, whether married or not, have obligation to support the child until adulthood or is entire responsiblity palced on mother?

Its all down to mum, unless the father wants to contribute, the lady I am communicating with now, has not had a penny from the father in 7 years, she won't ask him and would rather work two jobs than ask him for money. I have known many others also with the same arrangements.

Posted by: EasyTarget

According to Orange Ukraine
http://orangeukraine.squarespace.co...03-31T23:59:59Z

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The budget includes a lot more social spending. A lot. Pensioners are getting an additional 12%, new mothers will be getting 3,380 hriven ($637) when they give birth and 5,113 hriven ($967) more in the first year. The minimum wage goes up to 332 hriven by July.

Posted by: SouthWestAussie

This payment is not just limited to Russia and FSU countries. Australia has what is called A "Baby Bonus". Since 2004 the Baby bonus has been paid for each child born or adopted to Australian Citizens and legal Residents.
The amount paid at present is $4,133 for each child, including adoptions, multiple births and those stillborn. The Baby Bonus is indexed each March and September, meaning it increases in line with the rate of inflation at those times.

Posted by: Northernlight

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Originally Posted by SouthWestAussie

This payment is not just limited to Russia and FSU countries. Australia has what is called A "Baby Bonus". Since 2004 the Baby bonus has been paid for each child born or adopted to Australian Citizens and legal Residents.
The amount paid at present is $4,133 for each child, including adoptions, multiple births and those stillborn. The Baby Bonus is indexed each March and September, meaning it increases in line with the rate of inflation at those times.

In Manitoba, Canada we have a monetary bonus for children under the age of eighteen. It was first called a family allowance, now X number of $'s for every child under the age of 18 in school and below certain income level.

It is now called a Child Tax Credit, in relation to the family yearly income. This is paid out monthly at approximately $250 per month. There is an extra amount for children ($100) that have not reached school age (5). The custodial parent receives the bonus on the 20th day, every month of the year.

Kirk

Posted by: royalpalace774

I guess it is a good thing that a women can get some financial help when she has a child. There are many women out there in the FSU who are single moms and it is sad that the fathers of these children bow out of the childs life just because he and the wife split up.

When I have children I want to be a constant part of their growing up and I just don't understand how these men from Russia & the FSU can turn away from their children as if they don't exist.

And then these women end up on the dating sites and their profiles state they have 1 or 2 children and they hope to meet a nice decent guy.

I think it is more tough for a women with children to find the right guy because some guys look at it as if the women has baggage. And some guys don't mind it she has children as long as everything goes smooth.

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by royalpalace774

I guess it is a good thing that a women can get some financial help when she has a child. There are many women out there in the FSU who are single moms and it is sad that the fathers of these children bow out of the childs life just because he and the wife split up.

When I have children I want to be a constant part of their growing up and I just don't understand how these men from Russia & the FSU can turn away from their children as if they don't exist.

And then these women end up on the dating sites and their profiles state they have 1 or 2 children and they hope to meet a nice decent guy.

I think it is more tough for a women with children to find the right guy because some guys look at it as if the women has baggage. And some guys don't mind it she has children as long as everything goes smooth.

Also, never forget that in many countries (Ukraine I know for certain) the uninvolved father must give permission for 'his' child to leave the country.
This is the case with my lady, her son has a father who has never provided a dime of support and minimal interest in the child, essentially holds him hostage in Ukraine.
Only by saying to him, "I want to go with son to Turkey for holiday' or some other fabrication can she ever hope to get permission signed.
And then, the permission is only valid for a year, so if she finds a willing foreign man, gets initial permission and moves abroad, the son can never return to Ukraine until he is 18 or father can hostage him again by refusing permission.
Does this sound like resonable laws? I am stunned...

Posted by: royalpalace774

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

Hi LONG<
Well hopefully you won't have a hard time with that. But you are right, the father can be a real dirt bag and not only neglect his kid but stop a future of hope for him also. It's sad!

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by royalpalace774

Hi LONG<
Well hopefully you won't have a hard time with that. But you are right, the father can be a real dirt bag and not only neglect his kid but stop a future of hope for him also. It's sad!

Thanx RP
I hope so as well, if I find real love and we have desire to create a strong family, we can make it happen.
I hate the idea that a violent and uncaring man can make hostage a woman and her son... It just doesn't match what I understand as a westerner and what we know as 'responsibility'...
I don't doubt it, I just am appalled by it.

I'll be keeping y'all informed as it all becomes cleared, if it becomes clearer and more relevant.