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Posted by: JUli

Hello everybody!

I look through your messages sometimes, but I can't understand one thing: why are you so interested in Russian women?
I mean, you could find a wonderful woman in your own country, but you want her to be Russian...
If it's not a great secret, please tell me about it! =)
(and sorry for any mistakes here)

Posted by: solstice

This post should bring quite an assortment of responses. Who's gonna be the first to jump in?

Posted by: GoingToRussia

"How do I love thee ... let me count the ways ..."

It isn't 1 thing I like about them, it is many. The are very perceptive, they know what I want before I know I need it. They are intelligent. The smartest person I ever met was a Russian woman. They are supportive, caring, and very loving. Yes women in my country have these qualities but they are married or difficult to find because these type of women are a vanishing breed.

Now this is my opinion, it is what I believe. I'm sure other people disagree with my opinion and that's ok. I only ask you respect it and not trash it or me.

Your writing was very good JULi! I wish you a good day.

Posted by: joelunchbox

I am coming to a different view than what I had when I first started internet dating. And that is...it seems to me at least...that it is easier to meet someone from across the ocean than it is to meet someone across the street or even in the county. It might be that anyone who is willing to leave their home and try to make a new home far away--that type of personality is appealing to everyone. Someone brave and able to make big decisions is pretty appealing to me. And I just haven't found that here.
by the my girl is 43, has a 7 year old daughter...so I think I can say that I wasn't looking for a teenage model.

Posted by: Longfellow

I agree with Joe, the bravery is a strong appeal.
So is the resolve to face seriously difficult challenges to make a relationship work.
I have been attempting to date in my area for well over 6 months via Internet.
In my profile I state that to reach out in such a way is an inherently brave act... so let's not act like a coward after the fact. I'm not an unattractive guy, and my photos look great! but only 4 women have responded to my EOI.. Two I met and they spent the evening telling me of the guy that did them wrong and how any man they would be with, well, he better get in the back seat because their child was first priority. Not a good first impression.
There is also a lot to be said for slow growth at the beginning of getting to know someone... email and long-distance phone from halfway around the world keeps you at a slower pace, which naturally allows better development of other areas of interest.
I personally think that the idea of learning from each other, language and culture and the little differences, is very intriguing. Hard to take for granted things that are always being discovered. I like the idea of coming together despite some very different basic norms.
There is also a lot to be said for the family values and devotion to marriage that, it seems, many FSUW feel. It is different from American women, who often look at relationships and dating as a 'catch and release' game or 'what's in it for me'.
My personal experience with women of my area is that they often have a 'shopping list' a mile long... if you fail to meet any one of those critera... forget it. Not tall enough, don't earn enough, you don't love theater, you watch too much sports, you're not a fan of the same team as I am, etc.
There is no desire to compromise or even look beyond the list.
Add to that with the materialistic and greedy nature (of many Western people, not just women)... it is a recipe for discontent and failure.
And the really good ones that I know, that have morals and realistic values, have found a partner and are life-long committed to it.
Call it sexist, but I think in America, it is men who are at a disadvantage to find women of substance.

Posted by: Pilgrim

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Originally Posted by JUli

why are you so interested in Russian women?

In my case, young Juli, I dated a Russian woman here in the states, and we hit it off like oil and water (they don't mix)....But, the stories she told.....they sparked an interest that remains.

Then I met a Ukrainian woman here in the states visiting, and that led to trips to Ukraine and Russia.

I am not fixated on traveling to Russia to meet someone. I recognize the tremendous cultural differences, admire many traits, don't like some of the others. Then again, I would prefer to not date someone from New York City either, for pretty much the same reasons.

I would like to go to St. Petersburg in the near future, but am not sure it is going to happen. Been pretty career oriented lately, considerable travel, and am just now returning "home" to Colorado. If I find a lady with Russian/Ukrainian heritage in Colorado, great. If I find an American lady first, great. If it is not until St. Petersburg, great. (In which case, perhaps you have an older aunt or something....)

Lots of people, lots of different motivations. It does surprise me sometimes that people would prefer to travel halfway around the world to meet someone, but won't go to Chicago, which has a large Russian population.

For those who love the taste of adventure, and desire someone unspoiled by USA influences, they need to recognize the cultural differences. I have tried (with minimal success) to teach an adult lady to drive my vehicle, and my SUV barely survived.....I wanted to broadcast an emergency message to warn others when she got on the road! Then when I traveled to Russia, I could understand why she wanted to drive that way!

Life is too short to ride as a passenger with a Russian Woman driver...

Posted by: AkMike

From my perspective, FSU women have better moral character than the women I've met locally. I'm not religious but IMO the basic tennants are a good guide. It leads to better family oriented values.
I married a wonderful woman from Ukraine just over two and a half years ago. To date we have yet to have a serious arguement. Our values are very similar as well as many other things. I can say with certainty that both of us have never been happier in our lives. I just wish that we could have met 30 years ago. But the "Iron Curtain" wouldn't let us peek thru. But even though we are from extreme opposite ends of the earth (Alaska/Ukraine)we managed to find each other.
I wasn't looking for a teenaged bride, rather someone my age. I'm 53 and she is 49 now.

Yulia, are you looking for a western man? If so why are you considering this rather than somone locally?

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by AkMike

Yulia, are you looking for a western man? If so why are you considering this rather than somone locally?

Best question... don't doubt that Western men look sincerely... consider sincerely why you look to Western men. Find the meeting point, you can find happiness.

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally Posted by JUli

Hello everybody!

You have it wrong.... I was not and have not been looking for a 'Russian Woman'... I was looking for a woman... and if I could have found one that I fell in love and she fell in love with me it would have been over... but, I don't like overweight women, which cut out over half of the women here... and the ones that are not overweight are being pursued by many guys...

And I have met a few and thought 'this is going well' and find out she is a wicken (that is WITCH if you do not know).. well, see ya...

And some are 'princesses' that I can not stand... they want to spend your hard earned money and not have to work..

While looking, a lady from the Ukraine contacted me and we corresponded for awhile.. but she was to young for me and even though she said it was not a problem, it was to me....

So, I ventured out from my comfort zone (and the 25 miles around me) and started to cast my net wider... I finally got a 'hook' who happened to be a Russian woman...

You might not believe me... but I think that the differences we have growing up will be a hinderance (sp) in our relationship

Oh... almost forgot to put down... one of my friends work with some Russian doctors and I was introduced to one here... we did not get along at all... and then she was going to take me to the Russian church to check some other ladies out, but it never happened... again... I would have really liked to have met a local lady, but it was more important to meet a LADY...

Posted by: j_c

I was also not looking for rusian woman, in fact I listed myself on a site in the UK , and set it for the county I was in and the county next door. I chatted to a few women, met one , no chemistry there . Then I got an email from Irina , now my wife , was very surprised , as had not even considered a wife from abroad. We went through the email thing , then telephone calls, and finally met in Moscow before travelling to her home town. Chemistry was there , we hit it off straight away , will be four years since we got married in November.

JC

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by Texas Proud

I was not and have not been looking for a 'Russian Woman'... I was looking for a woman... and if I could have found one that I fell in love and she fell in love with me it would have been over... but, I don't like overweight women, which cut out over half of the women here... and the ones that are not overweight are being pursued by many guys...

I whole heartedly agree with these statements, apart from the overweight women bit but TP is correct all the thinner ones are being chased by multitudes of fellas.

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Originally Posted by Texas Proud

And I have met a few and thought 'this is going well' and find out she is a wicken (that is WITCH if you do not know).. well, see ya...

Scary huh! There is always a skeleton in the closet but it would be nice if it was harmless.

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Originally Posted by Texas Proud

And some are 'princesses' that I can not stand... they want to spend your hard earned money and not have to work..

Hey TP you must have met my ex!

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Originally Posted by Texas Proud

... again... I would have really liked to have met a local lady, but it was more important to meet a LADY...

Here, here. I could'na said it better myself.

Basically I looked for someone I clicked with at a basic level and then see how deep the clicking could go. Where she is from doesn't phase me and is not what I am interested in. What I am interested in is meeting a woman who is a lady, who can think for herself, who is affectionate, honest, stable, understanding, yada yada yada, so on and so forth.

I have met women in my own country who are the epitomy of evil personified and I have met women in my own country who are beautiful people but there just isn't anything more than an acquaintence. I have communicated with women in the US, GB, Ukraine, Russia, Belorussia, etc, who are also the same as the women in my own country (sorry guys there are good and bad women everywhere). There are some ladies who I have communicated who I really REALLY like with but I will never get to meet so we move on with things and fondly remember the nice people we have been lucky enough to communicate with.

Just my humble opinion.

Posted by: Cheburashka

Juli, I'm wondering if you ask that question because you know Russian women and realize that they can be some of the most dishonest, heartless, cruel, deceitful, control freaks on the planet. Just look at the myriad of posts about scammers and the many stories of men on this board who have been kicked in the crotch by one. But like all women, when a man finds a good one...it's a very good thing. And the men here don't mind spending ten times the money to find and secure one than they would spend in their own back yard.

Maybe it is the natural beauty that blinds men to RW. Maybe it is the sexy accent when they talk. But for whatever reason, the men on this board have made up their minds that the FSU is their official hunting ground. And we wish them all the best.

Oh, and as for me..I fell in love with one and everything changed forever. I wish she was still here. I would rather live alone for the rest of my life then to be with an AW.

Posted by: JUli

Oh, thanks for your answers!
I see your points of view.

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The smartest person I ever met was a Russian woman. They are supportive, caring, and very loving.

Wow! Very pleasant words!
But I should tell you that they don't concern to every Russian woman, you can easily find a wicken (that is WITCH - now I know it, Texas Proud =) ) both in Russia and another country - OzGuyLooking mentioned it. So, be careful!

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it seems to me at least...that it is easier to meet someone from across the ocean than it is to meet someone across the street or even in the county

Yep, sometimes that's really true!

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I personally think that the idea of learning from each other, language and culture and the little differences, is very intriguing.

You have got a point! A man and woman can be very happy in their relations as the learning can never stop. But what about culture shock, kin (family) and friends? It can be very difficult to start new life... though, love is a great strength!

Texas Proud, j_c - I expected your answers. But looking through the posts on this site I became very interested in different points of view.

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I would have really liked to have met a local lady, but it was more important to meet a LADY...

- I'll write it down! =)

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Yulia, are you looking for a western man?

No, I adore chatting by ICQ with men (boys) from different countries, but I'm sure my future husband will be russian

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In my case, young Juli,...

Yes, Pilgrim, I'm young and may be because of it I ask you silly questions.
Thanks for your topic -I liked it very much!

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Now this is my opinion, it is what I believe. I'm sure other people disagree with my opinion and that's ok. I only ask you respect it and not trash it or me.

I appreciate all comments and attention to my question and respect everybody's opinion of course!

In the end I would like to wish everyone of you to meet a Lady of your dreams. If you have already had it - be happy together! Good luck with your "gold fish"!

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Your writing was very good JULi! I wish you a good day.

Thank you, I try to do my best.

Posted by: Lanny

I was widowed after 34 years and was not seriously looking for a woman at all, Russian or otherwise. I took a very quick look at dating sites like e-harmony and match.com and decided the whole thing was a freak show in which I would be completely out of place. Out of the blue, a friend of mine suggested that I send an e-mail to the woman in Belarus who is now my fiance (he knows her sister, who is now a U.S. citizen). She hadn't even dated in 15 years and wasn't looking for anyone either. For reasons that have far more to do with deep religious beliefs and fairly strict moral values than anything specifically "Russian" or "American," we clicked to a degree that was absolutely mind-boggling to both of us. I can't imagine that I would ever have gone specifically looking for a "Russian woman," as though they are some unique breed. In fact, I find it slightly weird when posters discuss what "Russian women" are like, or what "Russian women" expect, etc., as though they can all be lumped together. It does seem to me that a large part of the "Russian dating industry" is based on exactly what most people think it is based on -- women in difficult circumstances looking for an American sugar daddy, men thinking that they can find a younger and more attractive trophy mate than they could find in the U.S. -- but in my case my soulmate "just happens to be" Russian. I would be delighted if she were American, because it would be infinitely more convenient, but that just isn't the case. If this falls apart, which I'm 100% sure that it won't, I see nothing so unique about Russian women that I would be focusing on them to the exclusion of American women.

Posted by: JUli

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I would rather live alone for the rest of my life then to be with an AW.

Mmmm... unfortunatelly, I can't understand it.

Posted by: GentleGiant

With me it is not exclusively Russian Women, I actually started off dating a Czech woman, it was her totally different way of looking at life that put me on to looking for women from the FSU, I have written too and talked to women from Russia, Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan; I am just sick to death of uneducated, selfish, greedy, European women.

Juli, only the best or (richest - not the same thing), people will travel to Russia; so you do not get to see the other 99.99 %; the total losers whose main aim in life is to drink until they fall over, get pregnant to get a council flat, and sit on their big fat behinds getting Government money for doing nothing.
The 0.01 % who do make it are either sincere, responsible people looking for their soul mate, or rich idiots who believe women from poorer countries will do anything for them if they flash enough $$$$$.
In here you will find only the former (mostly).
Where are you studying ?? I have a lady friend your age studying languages at Moscow University,

Posted by: joelunchbox

Juli, we are just guys looking for someone who appeals to us. A little wit, some intelligence and some appreciation and we are hooked. One of the wonders of the human experience is: why do we like who we do? And one of the miracles of the human experience is when people feel the same way about each other......

Are we material for a research project??

Posted by: j_c

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Originally Posted by JUli

Texas Proud, j_c - I expected your answers. But looking through the posts on this site I became very interested in different points of view.
- I'll write it down! =)

Why?

Posted by: Cheburashka

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Originally Posted by JUli

Mmmm... unfortunatelly, I can't understand it.

How many American ladies do you know Juli?

Posted by: GoeastLJ

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

I am just sick to death of uneducated, selfish, greedy, European women.

Juli, only the best or (richest - not the same thing), people will travel to Russia; so you do not get to see the other 99.99 %; the total losers whose main aim in life is to drink until they fall over, get pregnant to get a council flat, and sit on their big fat behinds getting Government money for doing nothing.

Below the belt, I would say.

For me, the key supply and demand, and each side works hard to connect because they both want it to work. Most (unscientific generalisation) of us here have been married before and I believe we have become better people because of those experiences we have had. We put in more effort this time around (a man owes his second wife to his success and his success to his first wife).

It is true that most Western women are not family oriented and mostly career minded, but I think that that is because the [western] system looks at homemakers as lazy losers who sit on their butts all day. Can't have it both ways.

Posted by: GentleGiant

Maybe 10-15% are Career minded, and 10-15% genuine people. , the rest, certainly where I live, are mindless drunken slobs.
When I say lazy slobs I mean the ones who park themselves (and their children), on the pavement outside our nursery every day and do nothing but drink, smoke and swear at people; they are still there now, I have just driven past; it's 8:30 pm and 10-15 losers are still sat on the pavement drinking and smoking ( and toke-ing up, the local drug dealer just drove past); the only time they move is to buy more booze/fags or to shelter under the tree if it rains.
The nearest thing to something creative that they do is scratch peoples cars or piss against the wall ( men and women).

Posted by: GoeastLJ

I just had a lovely week in Kiev and stayed in an apartment where I could experience the real Ukrainian life. OK, it was in Kiev and not some rural town, but I was astounded by the number of beggers and drunks, both men and women. People seem to enjoy alcohol - they have it for breakfast, for lunch and for supper. Some could easily walk in a straight line. It was hot and whereas I would go for a bottle of water, I saw that alcohol was the preferred choice for most.

The contrast - the number of jaw-dropping women was just amazing. It seems as though the women go out of their way to be noticed - to look feminine and bring the man out of the opposite gender. It is almost impossible not to be hooked on the idea of an FSU woman when you see them in 3-D. I am wearing a neck brace.

Posted by: GentleGiant

Whereas over here most of the women have the same shape as a Telly Tubby and dress like Rab C Nesbitt

Posted by: Chrismc

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

Whereas over here most of the women have the same shape as a Telly Tubby and dress like Rab C Nesbitt

what about Mary Doll?

I guess she is not what you are looking for either GG2

Posted by: GentleGiant

Well..... she is SLIGHTLY better looking than some of the tarts I've seen today; but smoking is a big turn off for me.
Vile habit (shudder).

Posted by: Texas Proud

Hmmmmmmm Juli... you said you 'expected' my answer?? How and why....

I would also like to expand on some of the other problems with finding someone... and this is 'seat of the pants' numbers...

I have read that 25% of women do not want to get married at all... And lets say that about 50% are married... that leave a pool of 25%.. now, reduce that by half because of weight (for me.. and I am talking FAT, not a few extra lbs..)

Now take out the women that as someone said has a list a mile long (half those again) and the ones that have mental disorders (another half of the ones left)...

And then.... where do you go to meet them??? I do not like bars at all... you can get introduced to someone, but that is maybe 5 or so a year (if that).. the pool is very small..

So, you go to the dating sites... but if you look at some... a 'decent' lady has 200 to 500 admirers. Now, I am a semi-closed person and it takes awhile to get to know me... and guess what??? Women make a decision on the first date (or sooner)...

As I said before.. it was an FSU lady that contacted me that got me interested... but I never did stop looking locally... it is that I found one in Russia first..

Also, for you Juli... she would love for me to come live with her.. she is not looking to get out of Russia... she said that there are just not men that are older that are interested in women with children (except for sex which she gets propositioned off and on).. Would she rather have a Russian guy... YES.. but her situation is the opposite of mine so she looks overseas and I look overseas..

Posted by: firemansam

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

... get pregnant to get a council flat, and sit on their big fat behinds getting Government money for doing nothing.

Oi! Don't go foiling my plan GG!!!! If only I could find a womb worth transplanting......

Sam.

Posted by: GentleGiant

Hi Sam !

Very funny, although you DO know I was referring to the female losers as well as the male; besides, from the size of some of the beer bellies the men COULD be pregnant.

I am not sure if it was my "Psycho" face and associated rant yesterday or the fact I have "BBC Music Box For 4-5 Year Olds" playing out from the window near where they have been congregating; but today they are staying about 200m away from the nursery.
I am getting plenty of "gestures" and "attitude" when they walk past, but I just give them my "Psycho" stare and they keep walking.
Teach the little $hits not to threaten my mother!!!!

Posted by: JUli

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Originally Posted by joelunchbox

Are we material for a research project??

No of course. I just wanted to to satisfy my curiosity

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Originally Posted by GoeastLJ

I was astounded by the number of beggers and drunks, both men and women. People seem to enjoy alcohol - they have it for breakfast, for lunch and for supper. Some could easily walk in a straight line. It was hot and whereas I would go for a bottle of water, I saw that alcohol was the preferred choice for most.

Yes, maybe alcohol is the biggest russian(or ukrainian) mistake. And smoking and drugs too. Especially when 15-years old-girls start doing it.

Texas Proud, I don't like bars too, however dating sites are not attractive for me too. A dating site is like a market. You can find the most important information about a woman and "put her in your trolley". It's very convenient, but there is no mystery here. IMHO.

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she said that there are just not men that are older that are interested in women with children (except for sex

Eh,our men are changing, maybe women too. But it doesn't concern every one.
Cheburashka, I haven't met any American lady, but I haven't heard anything auful about them.
I'm optimistic and I believe in people.
Last year I had a rest in Turkey, I met 3 lads(guys) I liked there, but everyone of them offered me sex in the first day. I was really shocked. Nevertheless, I hope there are decent lads there.

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Where are you studying ?? I have a lady friend your age studying languages at Moscow University,

GentleGiant2, I live near St.Petrsberg, this year I have finished my school and entered the university. I will be a linguist. I hope, I could learn English well.
But I would be happy if i knew that you understand my text and there are not too many mistakes in it.

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by JUli

But I would be happy if i knew that you understand my text and there are not too many mistakes in it.

You write and speak English very well... very understandable and good grammar.
Linguistics could be a good course of study for you... you have other languages as well?

Posted by: GentleGiant

Juli, I write to this girl in Moscow as a friend and to help her with her written and spoken English, if you want to do so then please PM me and I will give you my email address.

Her birthday is only a few days after yours, so I did wonder if you were in Moscow and knew each other.

Your text so far is quite good, a few small errors, do you use Internet Explorer as your browser ?? I use Firefox Version 2.05, which includes a spell check that works on these forum postings, so I can instantly see any embarrasing spelling mistakes, ( I just missed an "s" out of embarrassing and it underlines the word in red), or words it does not understand like FireFox.
Right clicking on the underlined word offers suggestions for the correct spelling or the option to add the word to the dictionary.

It is very difficult parsing the sentences correctly, I have the same trouble trying to translate my letters into Russian.

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by JUli

Oh, thanks for your answers!
I see your points of view.

Wow! Very pleasant words!
But I should tell you that they don't concern to every Russian woman, you can easily find a wicken (that is WITCH - now I know it, Texas Proud =) ) both in Russia and another country - OzGuyLooking mentioned it. So, be careful!

I found one of those too (witch) ... to bad I didn't know it before I married her.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by JUli

JUli your English is fine so don't worry to much ok.

I find it interesting that you are going to be a linguist as I have had linguistic training at uni and chat to a young lady who is also at uni in Russia doing her linguistics degree. Are you going to specialise in translation or in another branch of linguistics such as forensic or syntax?

If you are interested and the young lady agrees I will give her your email address and she can contact you, PM me and we can sort it out.

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking

... I have had linguistic training at uni...

Is that English as a second language down-under?

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

Is that English as a second language down-under?

No, think it is some sort of italian pasta!

Posted by: JUli

Well, I will be a be a linguist. The first language is English, the second is for my choice. I had learned French for a year, but I don't like it. Maybe I'll choose Chinese or Japanese. Anyway, it will be the next year (the second language).

OzGuyLooking,

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I'm sorry, I can't translate it well enough.
This is the internet translator's variant:

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Posted by: ham

hmmm
there are myths...you know...herbal viagra to fix one's botched manhood; minted pills to chew alitosis away; trim-my-waist tonics to fit in a tuxedo four sizes smaller & "just look" like James Bond in "thunderball"...there is my cousin, then, who can squeeze oranges with his butt-cheeks, but i digress.

I once believed in (some) myths.
You know, how FSUWs would be the replica of our grandmothers dating back in the 1940s...

Of course IF i had pretty good looks, pretty good money and/or pretty good status or whatever, then i wouldn't need to wander the MOB route.
Fact is, pretty women here ( forget the 10s, the beauty queens, the models; i know where i stand

) would not give me the time of the day if my life depended on it.

I am widely learnt; have degrees; learnt different foreign languages; studied abroad; have a decent station; i have been lifting weights on&off since 1988; i have no debts; i don't live in a trailer; i have no disability or marked bodily flaws blahblahblah
Guess what?
Women don't care.

I travelled abroad and since the cold war i have had an appreciation for russian culture, language etc. I'm interested in something more than bra sizes there.

It is my opinion that -under proper circumstances - a 5-man can get a 7-8 FSUW.

I am widely disappointed in the whole WWW/LD dating scene, which i have perused since 1997, however.
Scammers, liars, novelty seekers, whatever.
Therefore i have decided to look into the relocation option; as silly as it sounds

it isn't farther fetched than fairy tales about teenaged beauty queens eloping with middle aged westerners; or true love between 2 people who don't understand each other, or... and living happy ever after.

So my wild dream is to save $ and then to relocate there to teach or something.

Posted by: sidney

Ham, I wish you the best with this dream. If I were single I would consider this route.
Sid

Posted by: freebird

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

Maybe 10-15% are Career minded, and 10-15% genuine people. , the rest, certainly where I live, are mindless drunken slobs.
When I say lazy slobs I mean the ones who park themselves (and their children), on the pavement outside our nursery every day and do nothing but drink, smoke and swear at people; they are still there now, I have just driven past; it's 8:30 pm and 10-15 losers are still sat on the pavement drinking and smoking ( and toke-ing up, the local drug dealer just drove past); the only time they move is to buy more booze/fags or to shelter under the tree if it rains.
The nearest thing to something creative that they do is scratch peoples cars or piss against the wall ( men and women).

Yes and we here in the Commonwealth are shocked/dismayed/horrified at how far the people of the British Empire have fallen! What has happened?

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by JUli

Well, I will be a be a linguist. The first language is English, the second is for my choice. I had learned French for a year, but I don't like it. Maybe I'll choose Chinese or Japanese. Anyway, it will be the next year (the second language).

Thanks JUli for the info, the offer is there if you want another Russian to communicate with that is nearly finished her degree.

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

Is that English as a second language down-under?

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

No, think it is some sort of italian pasta!

I know my speeeeeeling cun be incooooooooooooorekt at times but it is stil Engwish.

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking

I know my speeeeeeling cun be incooooooooooooorekt at times but it is stil Engwish.

I think maybe the dikshunaree is rong!

Posted by: OzGuyLooking

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

I think maybe the dikshunaree is rong!

Oh I most certainly agree with you kind sir, it is gaol not jail, and colour not color. he he he I couldn't resist sorry buddy.

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by OzGuyLooking

Oh I most certainly agree with you kind sir, it is gaol not jail, and colour not color. he he he I couldn't resist sorry buddy.

That depends what your in for...some spend a gay ol' time in jail! LOL

Posted by: GentleGiant

FreeBird, the problem is the prats running our education services, the do-gooders have thrown out any hints of social responsibility, common sense or discipline, and replaced it with finger wagging and hoodie hugging.

The teachers have no way to control rowdy children, they grow up and have children with even less idea of what is right or wrong.

The reforms of the late 70's early 80's gave us a generation of feral children; they in turn have become feral parents and now feral grandparents; they know nothing and have no interest in knowing anything except where the next fag, beer or fight is coming from and what their "Rights" are;and they give this poison to their children and they in turn pass it on, so each new spawning is worse than the previous one; I have had a nine year old girl tell me it is against the law to tell her off!!!!!

Malvern is supposed to be a nice quiet country town, but in the last two weeks, just outside one of our nurseries there has been :-

1 arrest for firearms offences
1 arrest for GBH ( Battered unconscious with a crash helmet).
Several cautions for riding motorbikes on the path
Several cautions for damage to vehicles
A fight requiring a Police presence every other day
Daily fights between youths from age 10 to grown men in their late teens/early 20's.
Drinking, smoking, screaming matches and drug taking by the same age ranges, and the girls are bringing their own children aged 2-7 down with them while they are doing all this !!!
Can you imagine what THEIR children are going to be like???

Some of the girls we have had come to us to work are now so badly educated that their school reports give them reading ages of 9-11; they can't find London on a map and the girls are supposed to be better than the boys !!!!!

Posted by: Jill

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I would rather live alone for the rest of my life then to be with an AW.

Oh, so tempted to comment....Do I take the bait...Hmmmm.....

No. I won't. It's all about a kinder, gentler Jill this summer

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And I have met a few and thought 'this is going well' and find out she is a wicken (that is WITCH if you do not know).. well, see ya...

You mean Wiccan? I don't know any personally (at least not that I'm aware of), but there are quite a few on another forum that I'm a regular on. They are actually quite charming ladies

Posted by: GentleGiant

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Originally Posted by Jill

You mean Wiccan? I don't know any personally (at least not that I'm aware of), but there are quite a few on another forum that I'm a regular on. They are actually quite charming ladies

You HAVE to say that, or they will turn you into a toad !!

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by GentleGiant2

You HAVE to say that, or they will turn you into a toad !!

I've heard to speak ill of Wiccan, they will curse your loins to shrivel.
Watch your words, GG... you don't need further bad will! LOL

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by ham

hmmm
I travelled abroad and since the cold war i have had an appreciation for russian culture, language etc. I'm interested in something more than bra sizes there.

Ahhh.......are you serious!!???

Randy

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by ham

Hmmm I travelled abroad and since the cold war i have had an appreciation for russian culture, language etc. I'm interested in something more than bra sizes there.

[QUOTE=mistermopar]Ahhh.......are you serious!!???

I think you just pushed Randy's button ham! (Inside joke)

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

I think you just pushed Randy's button ham! (Inside joke)

Ham only has one button and it's not properly labeled... it should say 'Caution! Toxic Contents!" or "Preemptive Strike".
Maybe he expects that, deep down, we are all the same.

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

[QUOTE=ham] Hmmm I travelled abroad and since the cold war i have had an appreciation for russian culture, language etc. I'm interested in something more than bra sizes there.

I think you just pushed Randy's button ham! (Inside joke)

LMAO....

Randy

Posted by: GoingToRussia

Nothing wrong with "upper body strengh" on a Russian woman ... I think it must be genetics.

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

Nothing wrong with "upper body strengh" on a Russian woman ... I think it must be genetics.

I would agree there,but I always end up getting the ones with no upper body strenght that like me.LOL

Randy

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by mistermopar

I would agree there,but I always end up getting the ones with no upper body strenght that like me.LOL

Randy

Really! Have I got a girl for you! Too bad she lives in Karkov Ukraine.

I'm sure you will find someone in the Russian city you will teach in.

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

Really! Have I got a girl for you! Too bad she lives in Karkov Ukraine.

I'm sure you will find someone in the Russian city you will teach in.

You know Ukraine isn't that far from where I will be...LOL

Randy

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally Posted by Jill

Oh, so tempted to comment....Do I take the bait...Hmmmm.....

No. I won't. It's all about a kinder, gentler Jill this summer

You mean Wiccan? I don't know any personally (at least not that I'm aware of), but there are quite a few on another forum that I'm a regular on. They are actually quite charming ladies

Yes... I did not know how to spell it and did not want to look it up... knew it was wrong but what the hey...

She seemed like a charming lady... but that does not change the fact that her beliefs are 'strange' IMO...

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by Texas Proud

... a charming lady...

That's the definition EXACTLY!

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by mistermopar

You know Ukraine isn't that far from where I will be...LOL

Randy

True, it's just a short "drive" to the Ukraine compared to Canada to the Ukraine! If you had your Mopar, it would be a lot shorter!

Posted by: ham

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Ham only has one button and it's not properly labeled... it should say 'Caution! Toxic Contents!" or "Preemptive Strike".

there is a forum rule asking to "debate the argument not the person", but i guess there is double standard.
Some can afford to be real life tough guys...some need a computer screen for that

...well, we all differ.

As well, i saw plenty of colorful theories about myself, but rarely a thought-of response to the argument...

and speaking of Freud and shrunken heads, some ought to better buy a mirror one of these days...

So it seems someone is claiming a contrario that most men in the MOB arena are interested (not only for a residual value) in russian language and culture...

and that pretty bodies and young lasses aren't the real reason.

In my case there are pretty bodies AND the determination to learn russian and whatever PER SE.
Then again i learnt some other languages so that's not so far fetched.

Posted by: Longfellow

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Originally Posted by ham

there is a forum rule asking to "debate the argument not the person", but i guess there is double standard.

No one is debating you.... just stating an opinion with sarcasm. (insert your favorite emoticon here!)

Posted by: AkMike

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Originally Posted by mistermopar

I would agree there,but I always end up getting the ones with no upper body strenght that like me.LOL

Randy

Randy, Look for one that you cannot live with out! As the sands of time start to settle, have her stand on her head,,, Maybe they'll settle another direction???????

(Did I say that out loud??)

Posted by: ham

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

No one is debating you.... just stating an opinion with sarcasm. (insert your favorite emoticon here!)

" Ham **** is " or " Ham *** has " or the like is an opinion relating to an individual...substitute "George W. Bush " with "Ham" and see if you would send such an "opinion" to the White House.

But hey...
I ought to get accustomed to it.

Do you think what I say is far fetched or do choice words come to mind?
Well, what about this load of rocket science here:

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I can say for myself... in younger years, I had many partners. I was a bartender in a popular club (that is almost as good as being a rock star).

Now there is the place for a few emoticons...

I forgot that once you step on some big feet, it's perpetual war...

Uuuuh!
Me soh sory!
I din wanna faith ya

Posted by: joelunchbox

Sometimes I read through these threads and I ask myself the question...why would FSU women want to date us?
Honestly

Juli--do you want to date the "us" you see here??

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by AkMike

Randy, Look for one that you cannot live with out! As the sands of time start to settle, have her stand on her head,,, Maybe they'll settle another direction???????

(Did I say that out loud??)

LMAO...Good advice AK

Posted by: AkMike

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Originally Posted by joelunchbox

Sometimes I read through these threads and I ask myself the question...why would FSU women want to date us?
Honestly

Juli--do you want to date the "us" you see here??

LOL, Because we have a wacky sense of humor.

Posted by: GentleGiant

I don't expect Juli has read it yet; I expect she is busy packing her bags and checking she has enough sunblock; have a good holiday Juli.

Posted by: JUli

Thanks. Yes, I leave you as I'm going to have a rest

Joelunchbox, I have nothing against "your" jokes, but they are not amusing for me. Ham, AkMike and others - I'm sorry I can't appreciate your Great sense of humor...

Anyway, I wish good luck for all of you. Don't forget me!

Posted by: GoingToRussia

I will never forget Russian women JUli. Enjoy your holiday. Be safe and be well.

Posted by: UKFreeter

I'm not really looking but a friend of mine is. I asked him why and he told me that he was looking for a girl not because she was Russian or anything. But because the women he would meet want to get married. Most people in the UK don't want to get married and have a family until later in life.

Posted by: GoingToRussia

Same in the USA Freeter. More then 50% of women available for marriage are single. First time in history ... and many want to remain single and only want a "relationship" without marriage.

Posted by: TamFromAmerika

to make it short, russian women are passionate, unbridled, unchained, lustful, hot-blooded, and just ****ing gorgeous