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MARRY A MODEL! A loser's dream coming true (?)

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Posted by: ham

AS POSTED ELSEWHERE
http://www.ualadys.com/photo2.rpx?id=3046

Here is a cute FSU fairy ready to marry men upto 20 years her senior...model quality flesh, no doubt.
So Barney, Rufus, Kojiro and Wong all stretch their knuckles ready to speed-dial western union for airfare fees, visa fees, interview fees, commuting fees, internal passport, external passport, medical exams, daddy's new liver, auntie's new dentures...upto their last penny from the IRA/REER/retirement account.
In the face of bitter losers and other unsavory charachters...



Well, we cannot dispute she is indeed a model:

http://www.modelbank.com.ua/english...b0836f78984987b

Anna Negoda, that is, a moderately known UA model.
Of course the REAL Anna Negoda has very likely no intention to elope in frantic marriage-minded correspondence with middle aged westerners...
So yes folks, there is whom many of us are writing to and wiring money to...
Boris will have a great laugh his way to the bank.



Posted by: Longfellow

She told me that she prefers her men lumpy, with shining scalps and a portly configuration... it a sign of mature success and a real turn-on for her!

Mabe all the flash photography has damaged her retinas, but I'm sure it's true love for she and I after 2 weeks!

Ham, you must be suffering from post-traumatic stress or toxic shock or post-partum to be so jaded not to want to sink your life's saving into that photo! LOL



Posted by: GoingToRussia

I don't think she's that great looking either. My girl is much more attractive.



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
I don't think she's that great looking either. My girl is much more attractive.
I agree, just an attractive girl.
But I hear you're a real piece of beefcake, GTR!
Show us those steel biceps and rock-hard abs!



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfellow
I agree, just an attractive girl.
But I hear you're a real piece of beefcake, GTR!
Show us those steel biceps and rock-hard abs!


HA HA ... you heard wrong my friend. I have only 1 thing that is rock hard ... but I do pump a little iron now and then.



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
HA HA ... you heard wrong my friend. I have only 1 thing that is rock hard ... but I do pump a little iron now and then.
Well you put on a brave face here... I'd have never guessed you were so stubborn... and glad to know your shirts are neatly pressed!



Posted by: GentleGiant

PROBABLY a scam.

And I say probably because there is a chance she is genuine; I did come across a verified profile on Elena's of a woman who used to model for soft core and glamor; dont ask me how I know.

(OK, OK, the chances are very, very slim)



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Yes chances are very slim but my ex Russian wife use to model in her youth ... which was 15 - 20 years ago.



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
Yes chances are very slim but my ex Russian wife use to model in her youth ... which was 15 - 20 years ago.
Remember to take those 'Glory Days' posters off the wall before the new lady arrives!



Posted by: EasyTarget

I did come across the profile for a woman and she was a local news reporter for television. And it was legit.

I do think it is funny that they put a black bar across the woman's eyes for the photo on her profile.

Also I think Ham has too much time on his hands. :-)



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
I did come across the profile for a woman and she was a local news reporter for television. And it was legit.

I do think it is funny that they put a black bar across the woman's eyes for the photo on her profile.

Also I think Ham has too much time on his hands. :-)


I exchanged a few letters to a RW that said she use to be a news reporter also but she was promoted and works behind the camera. Never made a connection with her.

Ham hasn't been to the FSU in a long time so I think he has more then just time on his hands!



Posted by: ham

Quote:
I did come across a verified profile on Elena's of a woman who used to model for soft core and glamor; dont ask me how I know.


Well, last time i browsed a niche half-known dating forum at least 1/3-1/4 profiles were either model profiles or such like.
The case of real-life escorts ( prostitutes ) on dating sites has been carefully documented.
An agency owner busted for that (they ran both a "dating" and an "escort" site ) claimed hookers need love, too.
In my personal experience, however, these "professionals" ( irrespective of the degree of actual bodily charm ) might very well just be ringers paid to spice it up ( i know one porn photographer who lent his girls to a dating agency ).
"Modelling" is as well, without due public recognition, an abused word: most women claim to be model-quality and many to be actual models.
As well, beware of "trusted", "scam proof", "verified" and other catchy sales pitches from agencies...elsewhere they are discussing scammers on Elena's websites...and the agency's stance is (apparently) that they know something is wrong but need time to make something out of it=the last complaint might always be "in the mail".

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Ham hasn't been to the FSU in a long time so I think he has more then just time on his hands!


Well, as far as i can recall, you should mum the word...but the "other guy" is the "real" loser...always, interesting...
Well, i'll just relax & see you big guys succeed...in the meantime you can think you're still better than me.

The sarcastic poke is ignored: Switzerland is a short drive from here.



Posted by: GentleGiant

Elena's DO remove scammers, but remember that some spiteful people will claim a girl is a scammer if she wont drop her knickers for them on a first date; they do have to check and verify any claims.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Ham: I don't think anyone is claiming to be better then you. Just a joke.

Some of us will succeed in finding the right person to spend our lives with.

I always equate it to baseball. I played baseball for 15 years, I even made it to the minor leagues, but that is a story for another day.

One time I was on a terrible streak I was 0 for 82 with 74 strike outs. I was in the worst batting slump ever. But I still kept going...on the 83rd at bat; first pitch - split finger fast ball; outside edge of the plate, and contact.

Announcer: "He finally gets a piece of one...and goodnight...thats a souvenir."

Recently things haven't worked out so well for me. However I think I am going to dust myself off, knock the doughnut off my bat, get some pine tar on my hands, step up to the plate, dig my cleats in, keep my eye on the ball and wait for my pitch.



Posted by: ham

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant
Elena's DO remove scammers, but remember that some spiteful people will claim a girl is a scammer if she wont drop her knickers for them on a first date; they do have to check and verify any claims.


well,
1. these junk dating farms have tens of thousands of women over 3,5,7 time zones, typically acting as storefront for local agencies (and yes, "it's the nice guy three time zones away who's in charge of due diligence, but hell, he's been busy lately" ).
Profiles come&go every day.
Years ago the Elena sites featured even 15yo girls. When they attacked my "morals", i made that burst in their face, but none had a clue or they had a very preposterous explanation.
Do i blame the physical Elena? Well, she's probably busy monitoring pay-per-clicks, bragging how cool she is ( as in a quickly deleted exchange we had elsewhere ) and laughing all her way to the bank while memberships pile up...and that's all that counts.
She (or whoever it was impersonating her ) said something like she was living her dream life instead of chasing dreams...hardly appreciative of the "dreams" she sells...
One would need superhuman abilities to meet tens of thousands women in person over seven time zones...and employ legions of detectives, psychologists and webmasters to "keep it clean"...while fighting competitors over price wars...and thus lowering profits considerably.
Who are we kidding?
ALL agencies -bar none- forewarn NOT to send money...if one does, it's " a sucker & his money shall soon part".

Lately (as speculated around these forums ) the "Nth claim still in the mail" approach is getting popular as a smoke screen to delay action indefinitely.
We can hypothesize it is all a conspiracy against poor cinderellas who are too serious to send porn pics...following philosopher Descartes, an evil demon could play us tricks & misdirect our intellect...
With all the porn freely available it's hard to believe, and most men who claim to have been scammed have receipts to prove their point.
Buyer beware.



Posted by: GentleGiant

Ham, I have PERSONALLY experience of a woman I was writing to, getting removed from Elena's for scamming, I went onto the site to check if she had logged in after she had failed to answer my mail for several days ( usually answered within 24 hrs) and her profile page came up with a warning and saying it had been deleted after complaints.
I never said that each and every woman was vetted by Elena, that would be virtually impossible, but give them evidence of bad intentions and they will look into it, but if it is only one persons word against another, they have to give the girl the benefit of the doubt; as I said before, pricks will slag girls off because they didn't get their end away. Several different people complaining though, and they will act.

How would you like being banned from this site because one person had made up an allegation against you ???



Posted by: ham

Quote:
How would you like being banned from this site because one person had made up an allegation against you ???


it has happened to me countless times elsewhere.
The problem is, often it isn't just an angry loser who wanted nude pics...
There A R E male jerks, more than one could count, but the majority of men who claim to be scammed have bank receipt or other proof, same as i had.

Quote:
I never said that each and every woman was vetted by Elena


Not her, not anyone else, either.
I knew a decent dating dealer in Ukraine and he made a point of seeing the women in person. Fact is, he barely had a few hundreds women from the same neighborhood...of whom, NONE was "model quality".
Come think of it, yes it might just be a very ordinary girl with eighteen hundreds grams makeup on her face and dressed as a tramp...but in my experience the word "model" rings the burglar alarm bell.
No more no less true than porn spam one gets, with this naked cutie on a bed and an invitation to join her for a xxx chat, or to meet her locally in Atlanta, Boise, Chichester, Palermo or wherever you are connecting from...2 times out of three if you look closely, you'll spot that's porn shot in the FSU...so how could you possibly "meet Beulah from Atlanta", "Mildred from Chichester", "Nunzia from Palermo" TONIGHT TO GET LAID if the pic portrays an ukrainian girl who posed for that in 2001?!
Food for thoughts.



Posted by: Pin Boy

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
I always equate it to baseball. I played baseball for 15 years, I even made it to the minor leagues, but that is a story for another day.

One time I was on a terrible streak I was 0 for 82 with 74 strike outs. I was in the worst batting slump ever. .


0 for 82, 74 K's and you were STILL in the lineup??? was everyone else in a wheelchair??

my favorite baseball line from a book of letters young minor league players wrote to their families: "Dear Mom, I should be home soon. They're starting to throw me the curveball."

pin boy



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
I think I am going to dust myself off, knock the doughnut off my bat, get some pine tar on my hands, step up to the plate, dig my cleats in, keep my eye on the ball and wait for my pitch.


Don't forget your "cup" ET!



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pin Boy
0 for 82, 74 K's and you were STILL in the lineup??? was everyone else in a wheelchair??

my favorite baseball line from a book of letters young minor league players wrote to their families: "Dear Mom, I should be home soon. They're starting to throw me the curveball."

pin boy

PB: Great line.
Nobody was in a wheelchair. We had a full roster. 22 games with out a hit was tough.

Thankfully I had a coach who believed in me and kept me in there. Unfortunately for me I got an injury that shortened my career.



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
PB: Great line.
Nobody was in a wheelchair. We had a full roster. 22 games with out a hit was tough.

Thankfully I had a coach who believed in me and kept me in there. Unfortunately for me I got an injury that shortened my career.
I think the groin-pull isn't slowing your other passion...



Posted by: Zmejka

Quote:
Originally Posted by ham
Of course the REAL Anna Negoda has very likely no intention to elope in frantic marriage-minded correspondence with middle aged westerners...


You know - according to Sergey Shkolnik, the guy from the Support Service of that agency - she has that intention. I wrote a letter to the support and today i got the answer:

Dear Sir/Madam

Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

Anna Negoda is a member of our site and she is looking for a foreign husband via our agency.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service



Posted by: ham

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zmejka
You know - according to Sergey Shkolnik, the guy from the Support Service of that agency - she has that intention. I wrote a letter to the support and today i got the answer:

Dear Sir/Madam

Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

Anna Negoda is a member of our site and she is looking for a foreign husband via our agency.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service



well, my guts tell me that -THEN- my friend Moe can squeeze oranges with his butt-cheeks.
But let's forget about her for a minute...we can't contact her (and be sute it's her ) and i mentioned earlier agencies explained away easily how some big ticket escorts were "looking for love" over the net.
They might reply that after all this Anna isn't all that rage...but i have seen pages with pics of celebrities, pornstars and the like.
Harder, but not impossible to explain it all away, huh?
Anyways, those who feel so inclined, by all means go ahead & find out.

Ah, before you do, though, mind that mr. Shkolnik made clear his agency
Quote:
Due to the recent US law no contact information between the US citizen and the foreign lady is allowed to be exchanged before they meet in personal and sign the necessary documents. So you can get the contacts of the lady and give her yours after you come to our branch and meet her.




Posted by: j_c

Quote:
Originally Posted by ham
it has happened to me countless times elsewhere.
The problem is, often it isn't just an angry loser who wanted nude pics...
There A R E male jerks, more than one could count, but the majority of men who claim to be scammed have bank receipt or other proof, same as i had.



Not her, not anyone else, either.
I knew a decent dating dealer in Ukraine and he made a point of seeing the women in person. Fact is, he barely had a few hundreds women from the same neighborhood...of whom, NONE was "model quality".
Come think of it, yes it might just be a very ordinary girl with eighteen hundreds grams makeup on her face and dressed as a tramp...but in my experience the word "model" rings the burglar alarm bell.
No more no less true than porn spam one gets, with this naked cutie on a bed and an invitation to join her for a xxx chat, or to meet her locally in Atlanta, Boise, Chichester, Palermo or wherever you are connecting from...2 times out of three if you look closely, you'll spot that's porn shot in the FSU...so how could you possibly "meet Beulah from Atlanta", "Mildred from Chichester", "Nunzia from Palermo" TONIGHT TO GET LAID if the pic portrays an ukrainian girl who posed for that in 2001?!
Food for thoughts.


Ham
You met mildred too?
I used to live in Chichester .....West Sussex, are we talking about the same Chichester or did you pluck it out of thin air?

JC



Posted by: Seaview

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zmejka
You know - according to Sergey Shkolnik, the guy from the Support Service of that agency - she has that intention. I wrote a letter to the support and today i got the answer:

Dear Sir/Madam

Thank you very much for your message, we are always glad to help you.

Anna Negoda is a member of our site and she is looking for a foreign husband via our agency.

If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

We appreciate your membership!

Yours respectfully
Sergey Shkolnik
Support Service



I have followed the link, looked at the girl and cannot figure out what's the fuss about I have seen a lot of this type today in Moscow metro.

She probably wants to get married, she probably looks for a foreign husband or a Russian one. She is probably not a REAL model with decent contracts with several internationsl brands, just a model in the making ( a couple of occasional photo shoots for third-rate magazines), poor as a church mouse sharing a flat with two other girls. Nothing special or unusual.

However, the situation when she is paid by the agency for her permission to use her pics on their website is also possible.



Posted by: ham

Quote:
You met mildred too?


Yes but i'm still heartbroken.
Millicent too was a real babe...

All names ending in ***chester come from "castra", latin for encampment.

Quote:
She is probably not a REAL model with decent contracts with several internationsl brands


Hell, there are millions of (self-proclaimed ) "models" besides Carole Alt & Naomi Campbell...

Quote:
However, the situation when she is paid by the agency for her permission to use her pics on their website is also possible.


Boris hitting cut&paste is another...

Quote:
sharing a flat with two other girls


hmm
her + TWO other girls...the same apartment? Hmm...i feel in my "beluga" mood...pass me the platinum visa...

Ah...some quote mr. Shkolnik also said

Quote:
The age difference is not so important in Ukraine.





Posted by: Seaview

Quote:
Originally Posted by ham

hmm
her + TWO other girls...the same apartment? Hmm...i feel in my "beluga" mood...pass me the platinum visa...



Here you are, sir Hope everything is fine with you credit balance

By the way, it's a normal situation when two, three or five "models" share an apartment. Dunno why it is a surprise for you.



Posted by: GentleGiant

Ham, I am 42 and my friend Katja is not yet 18 (don't ask), her mother gave me death stares the whole time we were together in Moscow, but Katja asked for my email address, not the other way round; so FSU girls and women do often prefer older men, they have learnt the lesson that the women over here seem incapable of, that young men think with their willies and are therefore usually unreliable long-term.



Posted by: ham

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
Ham, I am 42 and my friend Katja is not yet 18 (don't ask), her mother gave me death stares the whole time we were together in Moscow, but Katja asked for my email address, not the other way round; so FSU girls and women do often prefer older men, they have learnt the lesson that the women over here seem incapable of, that young men think with their willies and are therefore usually unreliable long-term.


While i am sure at 42 your main goal with someone who is barely 18 is not (heaven forbid!) to see her clothes on the sofa and what's next BUT to discuss particle physics or to remember the good old days when Bee Gees went live...


you forgot to mention russian men are all violent drunkards on parole and that in the FSU women vastly outnumber men.

Quote:
but Katja asked for my email address, not the other way round


i'm a loser...

Mine is not a moral critique...if you think so, womanize as much as you can, the younger the better.
Mine is a commonsense critique: if you can make it last without

always remember those who thought that way & fell...not necessarily all or most of them were idiots, freaks, or losers...
I urge EXTREME caution.


Quote:
it's a normal situation when two, three or five "models" share an apartment. Dunno why it is a surprise for you.


FIVE?!
Hell...why did they erase that "cheap viagra" ad?! On my way to the pharmacist's
Well, i'm tempted to blow my retirement fund...FIVE...wow...




Posted by: GentleGiant

(BTW I am GentleGiant but for some reason my login is not working.)

HAM, you have a dirty mind, :-p

I met Katja while I was lost, she helped me across town and to the right stop for my hotel, we talked for several hours; NOTHING HAPPENED, we talk regularly via email, she is trying to get a visa to visit me in the UK and when I told her I was returning next year to do some voluntary work with children, she immediately asked if she could join me.
She is a lovely girl, but I am not trying to do anything with her beyond being a friend; if anything develops I will be happy, but I am realistic enough to know that the chances of being anything but friends with her is low.
She is bright, intelligent ( on a scholarship at Moscow Uni), and attractive, she is also not desperate; her parents are affluent and she makes many foreign trips, currently she is in China and earlier this year her family went on holiday to Thailand; when I met her she was returning from Spain.

With that in mind, I continue to look for a woman nearer my age and have just started talking with a 30 y/o doctor.

There are men who go out looking for teenagers; and I feel sorry for them, but if an attractive, athletic, intelligent, tall, blonde, young woman fixes her sights on me I will submit quietly.



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
(BTW I am GentleGiant but for some reason my login is not working.)

HAM, you have a dirty mind, :-p

I met Katja while I was lost, she helped me across town and to the right stop for my hotel, we talked for several hours; NOTHING HAPPENED, we talk regularly via email, she is trying to get a visa to visit me in the UK and when I told her I was returning next year to do some voluntary work with children, she immediately asked if she could join me.
She is a lovely girl, but I am not trying to do anything with her beyond being a friend; if anything develops I will be happy, but I am realistic enough to know that the chances of being anything but friends with her is low.
She is bright, intelligent ( on a scholarship at Moscow Uni), and attractive, she is also not desperate; her parents are affluent and she makes many foreign trips, currently she is in China and earlier this year her family went on holiday to Thailand; when I met her she was returning from Spain.

With that in mind, I continue to look for a woman nearer my age and have just started talking with a 30 y/o doctor.

There are men who go out looking for teenagers; and I feel sorry for them, but if an attractive, athletic, intelligent, tall, blonde, young woman fixes her sights on me I will submit quietly.


HE HE HE, it's hard to say no to a pretty face ... and it does the ego good!



Posted by: GentleGiant

The ego, yes, but the GUILT!!
She is only 2 1/2 years older than my son!!!

I mean, it is not as if I am any kind of hunk, I am the original "Average Joe" in everything but size, for that it's "XXL".
I suspect she responded to me because I treated her like a person and not a sex object when we met.
I watched her being approached by several men on the Metro and the look of utter distaste on her face was incredible; I let her know I liked her, but without being forward and only after talking for nearly an hour about everything and anything.

I should add that, at the start I guesstimated her age at about 20, and as time went on I upped that to 25; that is when I let her know I was interested; 20 was too young but 25 I felt was JUST old enough; I had no idea until months later exactly how young she was, and that explained why her mum scowled at me the whole time.
I am just glad that her father wasn't there, he would probably have moved in to keep the "old perv" away from his daughter.
She looked 20, acted 25, but was really sweet 16!!!!!!

What do you do??

(probably burn in hell)



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
... while I was lost, she helped me across town and to the right stop for my hotel...
So she is a girl scout helping the old man to cross the street. As a kindness, you buy her cookies (I'm sure they are delicious cookies!)!
I completely understand... If ever you visit to California southland... I will not be offering you the job to watch children!! LOL




Posted by: GentleGiant

It's funny isn't it? Cos looking after children IS my job!!!

No cookies offered, there was a rather nice silver/opal bracelet tho.



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
It's funny isn't it? Cos looking after children IS my job!!!

No cookies offered, there was a rather nice silver/opal bracelet tho.
Nyet! Here the girl scouts sell cookies each year as their primary fundraising activity... how many boxes may we mark you down for, sir?



Posted by: GentleGiant

I am sorry, I had to give up cookies to try and get back in shape.
It got to the point that, once through the front door, they never lasted long enough to reach the cookie duck; and because of the health nazi's, we are restricted in how often we give them to the children.
I pity those kids, being made to eat raw vegetables because the guvmint think they are healthy.
The only time I could consistently lose weight I was eating nothing but Cornish Pasty and chips for dinner and tea, 6 nights a week.



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
I am sorry, I had to give up cookies to try and get back in shape.
It got to the point that, once through the front door, they never lasted long enough to reach the cookie duck; and because of the health nazi's, we are restricted in how often we give them to the children.
I pity those kids, being made to eat raw vegetables because the guvmint think they are healthy.
The only time I could consistently lose weight I was eating nothing but Cornish Pasty and chips for dinner and tea, 6 nights a week.

What about high tea and crumpets? This is heathy ... no?



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
...eating nothing but Cornish Pasty and chips for dinner and tea, 6 nights a week.

Good googly moogly!
That sounds delicious...
excuse please, I need to wipe my drooly chin! LOL



Posted by: GentleGiant

crumpets?? are we getting back to loose women again ????
I suppose the exercise from chasing them around could be healthy; as longas you dont over do it and have a heart attack.

Mind you, what a way to go !!!



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
crumpets?? are we getting back to loose women again ????
I suppose the exercise from chasing them around could be healthy; as longas you dont over do it and have a heart attack.

Mind you, what a way to go !!!
I thought those were 'strumpets'...
What has the english language devolved to?

i think the question remains, "Know any loose women and will you introduce a Yank?" all kidding,,, I cannot live up to expectation!



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
crumpets?? are we getting back to loose women again ????
I suppose the exercise from chasing them around could be healthy; as longas you dont over do it and have a heart attack.

Mind you, what a way to go !!!


I believe you are thinking of a strumpet. You know crumpet ... it is a little English cookie you eat with tea!

But chasing "sweet young thangs" sounds better ... but I would ever catch one!



Posted by: GoingToRussia

HE HE HE ... great minds think alike longfellow!



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
I believe you are thinking of a strumpet. You know crumpet ... it is a little English cookie you eat with tea!

But chasing "sweet young thangs" sounds better ... but I would ever catch one!
GMTA.. at least for us colonials!



Posted by: GentleGiant

It is also I nice piece of tail, a strumpet being a tattier version with too much make-up and vice on her mind.



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
HE HE HE ... great minds think alike longfellow!
GET OUTTA MY HEAD!



Posted by: GoingToRussia

"YOU HAVE ENTERED ... THE TWILIGHT ZONE"!



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GentleGiant2
It is also I nice piece of tail, a strumpet being a tattier version with too much make-up and vice on her mind.
Oh, can't you find appropriate tools to remove the make-up- et al?
OK this is degrading too quickly... everyone must wash their minds with caustic soap!



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
"YOU HAVE ENTERED ... THE TWILIGHT ZONE"!
Shut up!
Now all I can think of is, "I'll adjust the horizontal. I'll adjust the vertical... "

You're just WRONG GTR! ROFLMAO



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
Here you are, sir Hope everything is fine with you credit balance

By the way, it's a normal situation when two, three or five "models" share an apartment. Dunno why it is a surprise for you.

5 models in an apartment...Ok,Seaview where exactly are these apartments? A street address and phone number would be very helpful.

did I mention that I am a really good photographer?



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfellow
Shut up!
Now all I can think of is, "I'll adjust the horizontal. I'll adjust the vertical... "

You're just WRONG GTR! ROFLMAO


No San Diego Surfer Dude ... you're thinking of "THE OUTER LIMITS"! This is "THE TWILIGHT ZONE"!

There is a fifth dimension beyond that
which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as
space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle
ground between light and shadow, between science and
superstiition, and it lies between the pit of man's
fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the
dimension of imagination. It is an area we call
The Twilight Zone."

http://timstvshowcase.com/tzone.html





Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
5 models in an apartment...Ok,Seaview where exactly are these apartments? A street address and phone number would be very helpful.

did I mention that I am a really good photographer?
I know there's a tempation to go in alone, ET... but, trust me... take a wing-man!
*said with hand waving in the air*



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
No San Diego Surfer Dude ... you're thinking of "THE OUTER LIMITS"! This is "THE TWILIGHT ZONE"!

There is a fifth dimension beyond that
which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as
space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle
ground between light and shadow, between science and
superstiition, and it lies between the pit of man's
fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the
dimension of imagination. It is an area we call
The Twilight Zone."

http://timstvshowcase.com/tzone.html


OK, it was still the first thought in my head.
We all know the existence of the fifth dimension... it is called "woman".

BTW, never have and am sure I can't surf... but I am eager to take up kite-boarding.



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfellow
OK, it was still the first thought in my head.
We all know the existence of the fifth dimension... it is called "woman".


No, the fifth dimension is a singing group from the 60s ... "Up up and away in my beautiful balloon..."

You should stop by The Pit sometime. It's the American hangout to say anything (within reason) no topic required. It is kind of what we just did here.

Here's the link: http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...2914#post122914



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
No, the fifth dimension is a singing group from the 60s ... "Up up and away in my beautiful balloon..."

You should stop by The Pit sometime. It's the American hangout to say anything (within reason) no topic required. It is kind of what we just did here.

Here's the link: http://www.russianmeetingplace.com/...2914#post122914

Again, shut up!
You started it with the "Twilight Limits" stuff! LOL
Or am I now off in the 'Night Galllery'? ROFL



Posted by: GentleGiant

Sorry I missed all the fun, my internet connection went down again.

For the last few weeks its been going up and down faster than a whores knickers.

Not sure who to blame as it is 2:30am, surely BT isnt out cutting my line for the forth time this week????



Posted by: Seaview

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
5 models in an apartment...Ok,Seaview where exactly are these apartments? A street address and phone number would be very helpful.

did I mention that I am a really good photographer?


I watched a casting for a TV show not long ago (loads of "models", radio DJs, just pretty girls) and was really impressed by a 19 year old beauty from Ekaterinburg. She is a model ( a real one), can be found in Glamour magazine and some billboards in the streets and she rents an apartment in the centre of Moscow with her three colleagues. I haven't asked her address, sorry Not interested.

That's funny that you seem not to believe this simple fact. It's all the same in Moscow, London and NY.



Posted by: ham

I just LOVE when men pull the Clinton shirt...
As said, the underage scoutgirl helps you cross the street, you buy her cookies and send her her way.
"Friends"?
What for?
Hell, that is a passe-partout word.
Be real...she can be witty and nice (and above all a great body ), but there is much ground you couldn't be "friend" over meaningful bases with most men HERE who are your age gap...you know, personality, interests, views...AND you think you can have a meaningful SPIRITUAL experience with a bimbo young enough to be your daughter?
When i was 26 a girl who was 15 or 16 responded to an ad of mine for a penpal.
Mind you that i never saw a pic of her, so i couldn't really part her from a Ford Fiesta.
Well, i thought i had hit the jackpot.
She was (or seemed to ) the personality i "just" liked.
Her introspection, her philosophy, blahblah.
Well, she was probably a bored novelty seeker, and extremely immature at that.
She soon reverted to her immature self and the whole thing collapsed.

I'm not made of chalk, so when i see one of these underaged foxes going around in skimpy dresses, i do think about the "beast with two backs".
Then i revert to reality, have a look in the mirror and think i would be going nowhere.
It is true no young fox would EVER give me the time of the day, but if i really wanted, i could pull the Mercedes out of the garage (and friends criticize me for not doing so ) or lease one.
Still, i'd be going nowhere.
Real life isn't an ad from a porn site.



Posted by: GentleGiant

Damn, had a big long reply to HAM written and lost it in a glitch BUMMER!!

Here's the short version in bullet points
.
HAM ! what's a "Clinton Shirt" ??

No skimpy cloths, other than one bikini pic entered for the Miss Pacific Ocean contest nothing showing above the knee.

Not immature, they don't hand out scholarships that often.

Being a friend because being a friend is good, it is also the best foundation for a long term relationship, but I am not expecting that.

When you climb out of your bunker I will welcome back into the world HAM, I know where you are, I have been there myself, for many many years of bitter, twisted darkness.

Woking with children/teens for 20 years, I can spot a crush from orbit.

I have never "made the beast" with her, not in my nature to jump into bed right from the start and I if I had tried she would not now be my friend.

Katja told me, (after I had asked) that she left behind a boyfriend when she came to Uni, and that she would not be looking for a new one until she had finished her course; that's another two-three years away.

It's been a year and she hasn't bored of me yet.

She is attractive, but not as much as the women I went to Russia to meet ( and not work out with), so I am not just lusting after her pretty face/hot body.


I better go do some work now before I get in trouble.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
I watched a casting for a TV show not long ago (loads of "models", radio DJs, just pretty girls) and was really impressed by a 19 year old beauty from Ekaterinburg. She is a model ( a real one), can be found in Glamour magazine and some billboards in the streets and she rents an apartment in the centre of Moscow with her three colleagues. I haven't asked her address, sorry Not interested.

That's funny that you seem not to believe this simple fact. It's all the same in Moscow, London and NY.

Seaview why, oh why do you tease us with this information....
A good friend knows that even if you are not interested maybe one of your other single friends would be interested.

So in the future please be a good friend, because we are all very interested. :-)

I really do have to find this "model" apartment building.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget

I really do have to find this "model" apartment building.


ET let me put you out of your misery, if its a "model" apartment building you want then it's is a "model" apartment building you shall have, here you go, how does this suit you



Posted by: Seaview

Quote:
Seaview why, oh why do you tease us with this information....
A good friend knows that even if you are not interested maybe one of your other single friends would be interested.


Sorry, guys Female solidarity is beyond everything

Quote:
I really do have to find this "model" apartment building.


You say you're a good photographer... Why haven't they invited you yet? They like photographers ...

Read you signature, ET



Posted by: ham

Quote:
HAM ! what's a "Clinton Shirt" ??


Bill Clinton, the famous president-womanizer, was famous for his verbal acrobatic moves to define his...passtime as something not so...uh...questionable as most thought it was.

Quote:
Not immature, they don't hand out scholarships that often.


oh, please...can i go have sex with the smartest in junior high?

Quote:
When you climb out of your bunker I will welcome back into the world HAM, I know where you are, I have been there myself, for many many years of bitter, twisted darkness.


oh, please...now don't tell me that it is me being "weird" or something here...
I never said it wouldn't be nice to strip such a sweetie naked & hop in the sack...whether that be "just", "appropriate" or even bringing you lifetime love is ANOTHER issue.
After all YOU insist on how "attractive" she is...i bet if her physical shape had been that of a washing machine, wearing braces etc, THEN you'd just buy her cookies...and then YOU insist on the possible relationship.
But of course you are attracted to her intellect mostly, huh?
Yes, yes, they can be oh-so-cute...but trust me...i've been studying for decades and will do until i die, but i'm not interesting myself...
In the meantime you are seeing/seeking other women...

I could fly to Brasil, Thailand or Ukraine, and short thereafter talk about bunkers...

"the beast with two backs" is Shakespeare i think



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by ham
Bill Clinton, the famous president-womanizer, was famous for his verbal acrobatic moves to define his...passtime as something not so...uh...questionable as most thought it was.
Well thank goodness it didn't mean the 'Lewinski dress'!
And yes, it was Shakespeare who wrote of 'the beast with with backs'.



Posted by: GentleGiant

And about the only part that makes sense.

HAM, I have NEVER laid a hand on her, not one kiss stolen behind the bike sheds, no sweaty nights back at my hotel, nothing.

I know you find that hard to believe, so I wont bother saying it again.

If she just had a pretty face then I would not be interested, I dated a couple of models in my younger days, and they were vacuous air heads, vain, spoilt and self centred; hence wanting a brain behind the face.

Katja has a brain, her language skills put me to shame, she speaks English better than some English people I know, she speaks good French as well; she is a keen athlete, a member of the Uni Basketball and Football teams; that's proper football not that "Rugby with shoulder pads" you Americans play.

She ski's and ice skates, and wants to join me when I go working in a children' shelter next year.

Maybe HAM is just jealous ??



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
ET let me put you out of your misery, if its a "model" apartment building you want then it's is a "model" apartment building you shall have, here you go, how does this suit you

I was looking for something a little bigger.



Posted by: EasyTarget

GG: I am sold. How old is Katja? 19?



Posted by: EasyTarget

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
Sorry, guys Female solidarity is beyond everything

Difference between men and women #384. Men will always be a wingman for another man. Even if he is a dirty rotten scoundrel. It is just our way.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
You say you're a good photographer... Why haven't they invited you yet? They like photographers ...

They just haven't heard about me yet. And I am a really good photographer. So next time I am in Moscow I should walk around with a big camera and my studio album - showing the photos I've taken. Good plan, good plan.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaview
Read you signature, ET

It is my mantra, I keep hoping.



Posted by: GentleGiant

ET

She is 18 at the end of September ( hangs his head in shame).



Posted by: Spakoyna

GG I believe Ham is Italian.



Posted by: ham

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
GG I believe Ham is Italian.


if you think Danny de Vito or godfather Corleone Italy, think again... Italy is a geographic expression like Yugoslavia. Then again, mine is not a "moral" critique, but a remark on the basis of feasibility/opportunity.
If one can make it work longterm, good for him.
I won't put the belt around his mid-section and i won't put nails in his coffin, either.


Quote:
And about the only part that makes sense.


ah, only others make sense...

Quote:
Maybe HAM is just jealous ??


hey...there is only so much spleen i can produce, ok? So you, the guy who typed he has 4 millions dollars in his bank account and the guy who typed he was fed of the yacht&champagne life first agree whom i should envy, ok? So i can stay focused. I admit i am easily outclassed over the internet.

Quote:
HAM, I have NEVER laid a hand on her, not one kiss stolen behind the bike sheds, no sweaty nights back at my hotel, nothing.


well, THIS very morning i went grocery shopping and there were a bunch of scantily dressed german young hotties...well...Shakespeare was all over my mind...but then...
1. they wouldn't give me the time of the day if my life depended on it
2. invoking the almighty platinum mastercard god & other sinful deities, luck might come my way, but what then? Discussing "a defence of poetry" by sir Philip Sydney and his just remark about Aristotle whether it's better poesy be "eikastikè" or "phantastikè" is out of question...and if i took them to the gym, wore my hood&cape and mastered a 320kg 45degree leg press lift, they'd probably roll their eyes and ask for the bathroom.
I'm glad if you solved a conundrum i have no clue about.



Posted by: joelunchbox

Have we forgotten that not every meeting should end with sex? I do believe that if you are (much) older you have a responsibility to the other to be a good example. How you behave toward them will possibly influence their life long beyond your time together. When you are gone, do you want her to feel used or appreciated. If sex was your goal-she will feel used.

The wingman comment got me to thinking... One, unlike the military we choose who we fly with. You hang out with a bunch of bums and thugs, you better be prepared for the aftermath. Two, you have a responsiblity TO YOUR WINGMAN. Wow, what a concept. Again, if sex is all you are after, don't try to obfuscate and quibble about it. And don't drag your "wingman" into it either. If being a wingman is being the fourth in a game of darts, bowling, UNO, whatever--I am for it. I might make a friend doing that. If being a wingman is being the Designated Driver--WooHoo!! I am there! But, if being a wingman is me doing whatever is necessary so you can hook up--is that not a degrading phrase??--with someone, forget it. It isn't part of the game for me to lower my morals so you can feel good for a few minutes. My conscience is intact and does remind me of my shortcomings.

I hope the soon to be 18 year old works out within the limits I described above. I like interacting with younger people. It gives me a different perspective on the world. Good luck, keep your head.



Posted by: ham

Quote:
Originally Posted by joelunchbox
Have we forgotten that not every meeting should end with sex? I do believe that if you are (much) older you have a responsibility to the other to be a good example. How you behave toward them will possibly influence their life long beyond your time together. When you are gone, do you want her to feel used or appreciated. If sex was your goal-she will feel used.

....

I hope the soon to be 18 year old works out within the limits I described above. I like interacting with younger people. It gives me a different perspective on the world. Good luck, keep your head.


Quote:

ALPHAVILLE, BIG IN JAPAN

Winters cityside
Crystal bits of snowflakes all around my head and in the wind
I had no illusions
That Id ever find a glimps of summers heatwaves in your eyes
You did what you did to me, now its history I see
Heres my comeback on the road again
Things will happen while they can
I will wait here for my man tonight, its easy when your big in japan

When your big in japan, tonight
Big in japan, be tight, big in japan where the eastern seas so blue
Big in japan, alright, pay, then Ill sleep by your side
Things are easy when youre big in japan, when youre big in japan


FALCO, JEANNIE part 1

Es ist kalt, wir müssen weg hier, komm
Dein Lippenstift ist verwischt
Du hast ihn gekauft und ich habe es gesehen
Zuviel rot auf deinen Lippen und du hast gesagt:
"Mach mich nicht an"
Aber du warst durchschaut, Augen sagen mehr als Worte
Du brauchst mich doch, hmh?
Alle wissen, daß wir zusammen sind ab heute,
jetzt hör ich sie! Sie kommen
Sie kommen, dich zu holen
Sie werden dich nicht finden
Niemand wird dich finden, du bist bei mir



fact is, humans (especially males) are just humans.
Besides, women that age tend to be very immature.
i know first hand.



Posted by: GoingToRussia

I don't expect sex when I go but when they appear half naked in your bed ... what's a guy to do? If you turn her down you're asking for trouble!

An almost 18 year old is a different and yes, I would half to turn her down ... and kick myself later!



Posted by: GentleGiant

By the time I see her again she will be 18, I am not returning to Russia until next summer, and 2-3 month break in my degree course over the summer, and she cannot travel outside Russia alone until she is 18, I am not sure if this is a Government thing or a family rule, she was hoping to come skiing with my son and I at Easter this year but couldn't find anyone who could come with her.

Most girls her age I would not give the time of day to, they are immature; but there are a few, and I have known and worked with some, who are very mature for their age; I used to have a 12 y/o nursing cadet I could entrust with tasks I would not dream of giving to some of her 15-16 y/o colleges; and a boy of a similar age; who everyone had written off as a lost cause; turned into a great human being after I involved him in helping me with some mentally handicapt children I also looked after.

I am here for Katja as a friend, if anything more happens I will be pleasantly surprised and honoured, but any approach will be made by her not me.

Right now I am getting worried, she has not answered my last Email, and the last one I received was from China; a few days before the massive storm hit there.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Joe: Being a wingman is being a good friend. And part of being a good friend is making your friend look better. Any man who has at least one friend can't be all bad?

Now it is up to the wingman to talk to the girls best friend...because women always travel in groups, while your friend gets the girls phone number.

From the "Wingman Guide" We should all be so lucky.



Posted by: joelunchbox

Unfortunately, the day I posted the wingman comment was just after I had heard a bunch of drunk airmen stories.... I still stand by the You get to choose your friends/wingman comment. Yes, I would do a lot for my friends but my friends also know not to ask me to do certain things. Maybe that is a good definition of a good friendship?



Posted by: Longfellow

Quote:
Originally Posted by EasyTarget
Joe: Being a wingman is being a good friend. And part of being a good friend is making your friend look better. Any man who has at least one friend can't be all bad?

Now it is up to the wingman to talk to the girls best friend...because women always travel in groups, while your friend gets the girls phone number.

From the "Wingman Guide" We should all be so lucky.
'Wingmans Guide' also says you distract the fat, angry friend, even if you have to sleep with her.
Everyone knows the most beautiful girl only goes out to bring men closer to her FF (fat friend).
Only after FF is properly engaged will the beauty be substantially appeased and available to the advances of the squadron leader.
The payoff for this is that at the wedding, you will be responsible for the ring and get to kiss the bride, once.
War is hell!



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