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Russian women and loyalty
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Posted by: blackknight518

I started dating a Russian girl last july when she came to America. She left for school for about 9 months and just got back here last week, and we had a long distance relationship while she was gone. My question is how loyal are Russian women in long distance relationships. I am in the military, and have noticed from my past experience, and others, that about 75% of American women cheat on their husbands in a long term/long distance relationship. I have heard many people say that Russian women are extremely loyal. Is this true?

Also I was told that you are not suppose to give an even amount of flowers to russian women, except for funerals and such. In America roses usually come by the dozens (12), so should I just give 11?

Posted by: Ellen

11 roses

and nobody could give you an answer at your other question - that all depends on her personality And why is such a question , sir, if she got back to you?

Posted by: Jill

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I have heard many people say that Russian women are extremely loyal. Is this true?

Some are and some aren't. I think it's a silly generalization, to be quite honest....

Posted by: mistermopar

Like Jill said,some are and some are not.

As for the flowers,yes,give only uneven numbers except at a funeral.

frflowr:

Welcome to the RMP blackknight518,you will find a lot of good info here.

Randy

Posted by: ham

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I have heard many people say that Russian women are extremely loyal. Is this true?

hmmm
and in the same paragrapher you have probably been told that
1. FSUWs vastly outnumber men
2. that russian men are all violent, jobless drunkards
3. that FSUWs do not mind biblical age difference, but consider it a plus
4. that well riminiscent of the fact Pushikin's great-great-grandfather was a slave from Katanga, they are eager to elope with people from Bombay or Kampala
5. that if only you make $800 a month and have a washing machine and tap water, you can have a teenaged topmodel who'll think you opened her the gates of heaven
blahblahblah

at which point i shall tell you you might save $50.000 refinancing three times this year, like that couple from Delaware; or you can loose 400 pounds in two months like that guy in Idaho or you can literally turn $10 into $10.000 in a month using my secret forex trading scheme of the wealthy'n'famous.

WOMEN ARE WOMEN: FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY, NOT ANOTHER PLANET.

Don't believe hype by agency owners, middlement and such people interested to pitch sales.

Posted by: joelunchbox

Would we all agree that if we expect someone to be loyal, we have to be loyal (trustworthy) also?

Posted by: Seaview

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Originally Posted by ham

hmmm

... 5. that if only you make $800 a month and have a washing machine and tap water, you can have a teenaged topmodel who'll think you opened her the gates of heaven

this one is a misconception

Take tap water and washing machine out of the equasion

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by ham

1. FSUWs vastly outnumber men
2. that russian men are all violent, jobless drunkards
3. that FSUWs do not mind biblical age difference, but consider it a plus
4. that well riminiscent of the fact Pushikin's great-great-grandfather was a slave from Katanga, they are eager to elope with people from Bombay or Kampala
5. that if only you make $800 a month and have a washing machine and tap water, you can have a teenaged topmodel who'll think you opened her the gates of heaven

Ham is writing about stereo types, don't take this as gospel.

So far my experience is 50/50 for Russian women being faithful. I would think statisics are similar with other European countries ... whatever they may be.

Posted by: ham

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Ham is writing about stereo types, don't take this as gospel.

stereotypes at least have some truth in them. Agency claims as above are pure fraud.

Posted by: GoingToRussia

You can't judge people based on stereotypes. No one has all the traits you mentioned and therefore stereotypes do not exist.

I'm sure some countries think Americans are "violent, jobless drunkards".

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

You can't judge people based on stereotypes. No one has all the traits you mentioned and therefore stereotypes do not exist.

I'm sure some countries think Americans are "violent, jobless drunkards".

You forgot annoying,power hungery and loud............LOL..just joking

Randy

Posted by: ham

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

You can't judge people based on stereotypes. No one has all the traits you mentioned and therefore stereotypes do not exist.

I'm sure some countries think Americans are "violent, jobless drunkards".

i mentioned nothing.
Agencies sell that bunk to men to pitch sales.
I tried to debunk those myths.

Posted by: swindoom

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Originally Posted by ham

I tried to debunk those myths.

We need more myth debunking.

My wife has been trying to find a man for her mum, she only looks at profiles of men over 50, her mums age, it is amazing that the majority state they are looking for a wife under 30 or younger. They have probably been suckered in by the agency propaganda.

Posted by: inlove

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Originally Posted by swindoom

I think it is more like they want a younger wife. And there are plenty of women who will be happy to answer their call.

Temporarily, anyway.

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by ham

i mentioned nothing.
Agencies sell that bunk to men to pitch sales.
I tried to debunk those myths.

First you say stereotypes have some truth in them and now you say they are myths? Hmmm ... maybe I changed your opinion?

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by mistermopar

You forgot annoying,power hungery and loud............LOL..just joking

Randy

... and capitalistic pigs!

Posted by: GoingToRussia

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Originally Posted by swindoom

I have to agree with inlove on this one. It isn't a myth that a foreign man can marry a much younger Russian woman ... but I disagree with inlove when she says all "such" marriages are temporary.

Posted by: inlove

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

I have to agree with inlove on this one. It isn't a myth that a foreign man can marry a much younger Russian woman ... but I disagree with inlove when she says all "such" marriages are temporary.

I did not say they are ALL temporary.

But, in all honesty, I have not heard of a RW/AM marriage that originated from a long-distance Internet relationship where the difference between partners is more than 20 years to last beyond a 5-year mark. Even when both partners have the best intentions, after a while their generational differences become too much to overcome, I guess.

Posted by: sidney

Inlove, I've been married 6 years in Sept and we have an age difference of more then 25 years so yes it does happen and often contiue beyond that time.
Sid

Posted by: inlove

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Originally Posted by sidney

Inlove, I've been married 6 years in Sept and we have an age difference of more then 25 years so yes it does happen and often contiue beyond that time.
Sid

Oh, Good!
Now I can say that I've heard of one.

Posted by: Spakoyna

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Originally Posted by sidney

Inlove, I've been married 6 years in Sept and we have an age difference of more then 25 years so yes it does happen and often contiue beyond that time.
Sid

Rare Breed You 2!

Course if your bank account surpases 7+ figures I understand!

Posted by: swindoom

A foreign man can marry a much younger Russian woman, it can and does work out. Although from my limited experience of the few guys I have met that have done this, it was easy to see the train wreck coming.

My point is what reasons can guys over 50, even over 60 have for specifically just looking for a Russian woman in her early to mid 20's.

It is not considered "normal" in our western culture for men in this age range to look for a partner of such a young age, except for wealthy men, so where do they get this idea from?

Posted by: ham

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Originally Posted by GoingToRussia

First you say stereotypes have some truth in them and now you say they are myths? Hmmm ... maybe I changed your opinion?

i said STEREOTYPES in general.
Like Montesquieu and his portrayal of various nations and people according to stereotypes, EG the seducer; the lazy etc.
There is a little truth in these stereotypes.

The stereotypes listed here are nothing but agency propaganda...hardly any evidence to support it ( the 1980s are LOOONG gone ).

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But, in all honesty, I have not heard of a RW/AM marriage that

originated from a long-distance Internet relationship where the difference between partners is more than 20 years to last beyond a 5-year mark. Even when both partners have the best intentions, after a while their generational differences become too much to overcome, I guess.

very likely, but that doesn't "sell"; what sells are teenaged beauty queens with tongue piercing, not women 30+...even if older women stand (much) better chances of being a nymphomaniac than teenagers do.

Yet it is an ego thing, arm candy, whatever...understandable, perhaps but very dangerous to play with.

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It is not considered "normal" in our western culture for men in this age range to look for a partner of such a young age, except for wealthy men, so where do they get this idea from?

I mentioned elsewhere how agencies bother to maintain forums, hire cronies, buy "advice columns", route upto 50% of what men pay to cold calling professionals, pay for expensive click-through & banner rings...bother to harass and slander dissenters risking a lawsuit or a stab in the back in a black alley...waste time and big money in it.
MONEY!
If there were no huge financial incentives, they'd just close up shop (like some did).
As well, it is easy to guess how their propaganda and their chosen audience are chosen...the most vulnerable audience likely to hold the biggest returns.

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We need more myth debunking.

I am committed to it, but most men choose to hear what they want to hear and vendors are more than happy to flatter their delusions...

Posted by: Rockyof Florida

It just depends on the person. Some are loyal and some aren't. My philosophy is "once a cheat, always a cheat" IMHO
Rocky