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What kind of job can a russian woman take in California ?
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Posted by: lavrov2005

The girl is about 25 years old and speak above-average english ? What kind of job can she do ? I am also wondering what those russian women do once they arrive ? Stay at home everytday ?

Posted by: Jerico

Well for starters just because she is Russian doesn`t mean she cant get a job , Heh.
If she speaks English she can work anywhere. You know many jobs in Russia are here also.
Usually when a Russian girl gets here she enjoys staying home and doing nothing just like American girls, Hehhe just kidding.
No Russian girl is going to just stay home except maybe in the begining when she arrives of course because she wont know anybody.
A Russian girl that stays at home? Never met one yet.

Jerry

Posted by: Seaview

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Originally Posted by lavrov2005

The girl is about 25 years old and speak above-average english ? What kind of job can she do ? I am also wondering what those russian women do once they arrive ? Stay at home everytday ?

Strange question. 25 year old Russian girl is usually a university graduate, so she has her bachelors or MA degree in some area. So she can probably find a job according to her diploma.

In addition to that, she can do any job that does not require special skills.

Posted by: sidney

My wife had no luck finding a job w/degree. Seems without experience they weren't interested. Engineering was also at a low at that time. My wife began work at an amusement park which helped her language skills. She was interacting with people at work, made friends, enjoyed the job and was happy.
Sid

Posted by: joelunchbox

Glad you brought this up. My gfance is an endocrinologist in Uzbekistan. But she is of the opinion that to work in her field here, she would have to go back to school. She says that, basically, the US doesn't recognize Uzbek degrees. Oh, she is even published (I am very proud) and was invited to attend a big meeting in Finland this year. Seems such a shame if she can't continue her work.

Posted by: Cheburashka

Russian ladies are great in sales and retail. Must be the exotic accent.

Posted by: Delilah

She can always plant her two lips ... (tulips)... get it???

Posted by: inlove

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Originally Posted by Seaview

So she can probably find a job according to her diploma.

Fat chance.

Posted by: inlove

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Originally Posted by joelunchbox

Glad you brought this up. My gfance is an endocrinologist in Uzbekistan. But she is of the opinion that to work in her field here, she would have to go back to school. She says that, basically, the US doesn't recognize Uzbek degrees. Oh, she is even published (I am very proud) and was invited to attend a big meeting in Finland this year. Seems such a shame if she can't continue her work.

If she wants to practice in the US, she needs to pass a a doctors' exam that will evaluate her overall skills as a doctor. It is an expensive and a long procedure, I think it is a series of 3 exams, actually, including practice sessions with patients. Then she needs to do her residency with a hospital, just like medical school graduates do. Only after that she is good to practice.

The biggest problem is that former Soviet medicine is way behind technologically, and many techniques, tests, diagnostic tools, etc. an uzbek doctor might not be familiar with at all, and without this knowledge they cannot pass an exam. That's why many opt to go back to medical school, at least for the last couple years.

Posted by: joelunchbox

She didn't give me specifics but I trust her on this. If I had gone through school and been in my field for several years, I am not sure if I would want to put myself through it all again. I am hoping that she will at least look into it when she gets here because I can tell she really likes her work. And her patients really like her--one of them called her at home while I was there. Oh, she was on vacation but she still took time to talk to them. She is a nice person!!

Posted by: scotch

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Originally Posted by lavrov2005

The girl is about 25 years old and speak above-average english ? What kind of job can she do ? I am also wondering what those russian women do once they arrive ? Stay at home everytday ?

This is an extremely important question, and one that is overlooked by many entering into relationships with Russian women (including me!).

What is your girl going to do while you are at work?

It appears to me there are 2 ideal situations.

First, your girl is fluent in English and works as an interpreter, English teacher etc. She probably won't have too much difficulty finding a basic job .. just remember most decent sales / retail jobs require a pretty good level of English (well, in Australia anyways).

Second, you own your own business and can employ your wife, thus avoiding the arduous process of finding her a job in a difficult environment.

Girls with a university degree but without fluent English will probably have to spend 2 to 5 years learning English before they can then be accepted into a university course to update their qualifications, which might then take another 2-3 years to complete .. a total of 4 to 8 years just to start her career! You'll need to check out the specific details for your country. This seems to be the case with law and medicine, but I have heard it is easier with accounting and computers (IT).

If your girl is in this situation I suggest you ask her to train in some useful skill (that doesn't demand fluent English) before she arrives that will enable her to find some employment instead of sit around all day. Then, while she is working, she can do her English / university classes and work towards re-engaging her chosen career.

Anyone have suggestions for these types of jobs? Perhaps waitress, make-up artist / beautician, massage therapist, model ..anything else? I don't want my wife to work as a cleaner or kitchenhand so we have spent many months in advance training her in an alternative career.

Posted by: inlove

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Originally Posted by scotch

First, your girl is fluent in English and works as an interpreter, English teacher etc. She probably won't have too much difficulty finding a basic job .. just remember most decent sales / retail jobs require a pretty good level of English (well, in Australia anyways).

Second, you own your own business and can employ your wife, thus avoiding the arduous process of finding her a job in a difficult environment.

Girls with a university degree but without fluent English will probably have to spend 2 to 5 years learning English before they can then be accepted into a university course to update their qualifications, which might then take another 2-3 years to complete .. a total of 4 to 8 years just to start her career! You'll need to check out the specific details for your country. This seems to be the case with law and medicine, but I have heard it is easier with accounting and computers (IT).

If your girl is in this situation I suggest you ask her to train in some useful skill (that doesn't demand fluent English) before she arrives that will enable her to find some employment instead of sit around all day. Then, while she is working, she can do her English / university classes and work towards re-engaging her chosen career.

Anyone have suggestions for these types of jobs? Perhaps waitress, make-up artist / beautician, massage therapist, model ..anything else? I don't want my wife to work as a cleaner or kitchenhand so we have spent many months in advance training her in an alternative career.

It is crucial for the success of your relationship and her overall life in a new country that she understands the remifications of her move on her career. She is going to start from scratch, period. Be it her present field of work, or a new one, she will start from the bottom. The only exception to this rule are IT professionals, scientists, and college professors, but even they have to lower their expectations in many cases.

Her professional success depends on many things. It depends on her level of English, and how well she is linguistically inclined. I've seen people with a very limited English at the time of their move to the US who became fluent speakers in 2 years. It takes a lot of work, dedication and linguistic talent to learn the language fairly quickly. And even then, when it comes to professional writing most of us, non-native speakers, have problems expressing our thoughts on the required level, and have to take our time and be careful with words. And very few non-natives lose their accent.

Generally, it is much easier to find a good meaningful job in a profession where language skills are not the main component. You have to speak the language of the country you live in, period. But if you are a chef in a restaurant, an interior designer or a beautician, you can get away with less than fluent language skills, because your are being paid based on how well you create an actual product, not for how well you can communicate with the management, for example.

I would not recommend modeling as a profession, unless she is younger than 23-25 and very photogenic. In that business you really have to start early to succeed, otherwise you are wasting your time, but a fashion photographer, for example, can be a very good and rewarding professional path.

Basically, the more transferrable skills she has, the better. The more talents she has, the better. Computers and English are something that she should be working on before she moves to another country, as well as thinking beforeahead what she wants to do with her career in general, and be prepared to start VERY low. If she is a bank manager in Russia, for example, and wants to stay in banking, she should be prepared to start as a teller for 8 dollars in hour and work her way up (probably get additional training as well), because that's what she is going to be looking at.

Posted by: Seaview

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Originally Posted by inlove

Fat chance.

I like your optimisim

I don't know about US but in UK I sent 3 applications got 3 interviews and one job according to one of my diplomas

The whole process took about three months.

Russian Masters are equivalent to UK bachelors in most cases, by the way. The most problematic professions are doctors and teachers because all countries have their special requirements for this kind of jobs. Interpreters, accounters, research fellows, IT girls can find place under the sun, I think

Posted by: inlove

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Originally Posted by Seaview

I like your optimisim

I don't know about US but in UK I sent 3 applications got 3 interviews and one job according to one of my diplomas

It really depends on what your professional field, location, family situation, ect. Consider yourself lucky.

Majority of new immigrants have a lot of trouble finding a promising job here in the US right off the boat, so to speak. Unless they have arrived here on H1B visa as IT professionals, scietists, and college professors. In this case, a job is waiting for them.

By the way, aint't you in Moscow?

Posted by: GoingToRussia

You can always start her out on EBAY ... if she can read and write English. In the US if she comes over on a K-1/fiancee visa, she would be able to work until her status is adjusted which takes 6 - 12 months.

Posted by: Spakoyna

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Originally Posted by scotch

This is an extremely important question, and one that is overlooked by many entering into relationships with Russian women (including me!).

What is your girl going to do while you are at work?

Well..... I have a wonderful solution to this question. My wife brought it up 1st in our correspondance! We work side by side in my business. 1 month away from 3 years of marital bliss!

This is certainly a very important topic! I knew this in my situation from the beginning. My business keeps me away from home on most weekends. If my wife had a normal job we would never see each other. We discussed this in depth before we ever met.

Bottom line is...if you want a good marriage...you should always lay all your cards on the table! Worked Quite Well for Me!

Posted by: Jerico

About 1 year after my wife arrived in the USA she was approach on Craigslist for a job at a nearby college playing piano. Well they loved her and hired her fulltime. Granted she is on yearly contracts until 5 years but her Masters degree in Music helped for sure.
She has had Sacramento Syphony people listen to her play.
I admit that I thought her music degree would be worthless here but I was wrong ,very wrong ,hehhe.
They also want her to teach Russian at the college but she doesn`t seem interested in it at least at this time.

She also has another master degree in English as a second language.

Jerry

Posted by: EasyTarget

Joe:
With everything I have read / seen, it seems to me that a doctor in FSU, is the equivalent of a physician's assistant in the US. Not exactly sure all of the requirements of becoming a PA but here is the link for CA. http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/occguide/PHYSASST.HTM

Being a PA might be more ideal situation, since PA's have more one on one time with the patients. Every PA I have ever dealt with, was more enjoyable then the Doc.

Posted by: Seaview

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Originally Posted by inlove

It really depends on what your professional field, location, family situation, ect. Consider yourself lucky.

I am in Moscow at the moment.

I was referring to my past experience.

I studied in a UK university in 2005/2006 and worked at the same time as a guide. It goes without saying, it was a part-time job so it was not a problem to find it.

But, as far as I understand, the author of this thread is not interested how much his Russian wife is going to make. He just wants her to have a useful pastime