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Any info on loveme.com and bluesapphires.net?
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Posted by: Zharis

Hello, everybody
I just came across these forums the other day and am amazed at all the great information I found…I really get a great feeling about the people who post here - seem very helpful. I am definitely going to be using this site in the future.

I started my "search" a few months ago and was kind of overwhelmed with all the information out there about "Russian romance"…so many sites and so many scams. I checked out several anti-scam sites but noticed many had links to women from various dating agencies…competitors of the agencies they had on their black lists. To me, this kind of tainted their remarks…links to various sites I can understand but actual pictures of women that led to a certain site made me wonder just who was running that anti-scam site. To say the least I was confused… Thankfully I found this site and feel more comfortable with what people say here about scam sites…just seems more authentic.

So I looked around and I ended up at AnastasiaWeb…yeah, I know - stupid. lol Like most people I got a ton of e-mails right away even though I didn’t even post a picture…I signed up just to see what this was all about, I had never even thought about possibly looking for a "Russian bride" until a few months ago. So, right from the beginning I "knew" all those e-mails were simply being generated at the agency level…didn’t bother me much since I just deleted them all and sent introductory letters to a few that I was interested in based on what they said (or didn’t say) in their profiles. I corresponded with a few over the last few months but nothing really came of it, most letters didn’t seem very interesting.

After reading these forums I know I am wasting my time at AnastasiaWeb primarily because I am very suspicious of any correspondence that comes from them. I was never interested in their tour packages because, to me, the idea of a gathering where there are 500 women compared to 40 guys or whatever seems more like a nightmare than a good time.

However I did come across two women that I have written to who seem interesting. One is also listed at loveme.com and bluesapphires.net. We’ve written a few letters back and forth and she recently sent me an updated picture of herself. She doesn’t look like a supermodel but I LIKE that…she is pretty and smart and seems to have a good personality - personality and intelligence are much more important to me than looks anyway. So, I am very interested in continuing our conversation but away from Anastasiaweb so I am glad I was able to locate her on other sites I’ve checked out. She’s listed as an English teacher at both sites just as she is at Anastasia and one of her letters told me that she’s be teaching for about 8 years. So, am wondering if anybody has heard or experienced anything good or bad about these two sites. If they both have "questionable reputations" there’s no use in even trying to contact her through them…might as well stay at Anastasia for that. I did a search and didn’t really see anything on either of them.

Now the other woman…wasn’t going to really talk about her but I guess I have nothing to lose - will call her E. Have been writing her since almost the beginning and she seems great. She seems to be very smart and has a great personality and many of her views on life are almost exactly like mine even though I never mentioned what mine were. We’ve exchanged about 10 letters and almost all of hers to me have been about a page long (when copied into Word). They’re very detailed and she always answers every question I ask and not just yes or no but very in depth. She also writes very specific things about herself that in no way seem to be a copy and paste job but seem like they’re in response to various things I wrote about. I’ve seen copy and paste jobs with one woman I wrote there. I can’t really explain it…it just feels like we’re having a conversation when we write. She also asks me a lot of probing questions, not superficial like what’s my favorite animal or something like that - although there’s nothing wrong with asking that question as long as they’re not all like that. I’ve also asked her some questions that require some thinking and she always responds with a very in depth answer…several paragraphs, doesn’t feel canned at all. As a matter of fact I recently mentioned the fact that Anastasia has a bad reputation and mentioned "hairy guys named Ivan" who write to unsuspecting men. Her next letter included two paragraphs that addressed that issue, it seemed that she put quite a bit of effort into her thoughts on this - much more than I would have ever expected and her words seemed to be well thought out just like they always are. Many other instances like this, i.e. her thoughts on possibly moving to another country if she falls in love with a foreign man as well as future career plans in her current field…too many to talk about here and I don’t want to bore you all with it anyway. :-)

She, of course, has never mentioned money and has said that corresponding through letters will help us get to know each other better but of course we won’t know until we meet and then won’t even know for sure until we are separated again - all things that I would expect a woman would think. She told me that she went to a social once (I had asked her) but that she was only there about 15 minutes before she left so she didn’t know all that much about them. Once again, that makes sense…if I were a woman who went to a social with 500 other women I would feel like a cow on auction or something - I wouldn’t stay long either. I actually didn’t write her for a month because I thought that her answers were too good…I checked my e-mails to her to see if I had mentioned something that she simply had expounded upon but nope, all these thoughts were completely from her and, once again, didn’t feel "canned". She wrote me after a month and said she was upset because she had really enjoyed my letters and if I had found somebody else she would understand but would appreciate it if I let her know. To me that makes sense (I had sent her four rather long letters at that point, it’s just the way I am when a woman truly interests me) but maybe that wouldn’t be a typical of a woman at a web site like this…perhaps they just say to heck with it and move on. I don’t know.

Now, here’s my problem with E. I have tried every search imaginable to find her at another web site and have had absolutely no luck. I’ve googled using various combinations of her name, city, age, birth date whatever…and I just can’t find her anywhere else. I’ve gone through tons of pages at anti-scam web sites to see if I can find her picture listed anywhere and nothing. I even went so far as to do a google search on the woman (first and last name) listed as the translator at the bottom of her e-mails to me in hopes of finding another dating agency where she worked - I didn’t have any luck doing that I did find her listed as a translator at what appears to be a charity in Odessa. BTW, the combinations I tried have allowed me to find almost all of the women I searched for in the past…I don’t know, maybe being listed only at Anastasia should be a red flag. However, she’s not listed at their affiliate sites either, unlike many there. The thing that comes to mind is that if they are trying to lead me on they sure are putting a lot of effort into it because these letters are just too personalized.

Even though I would like to continue communicating with E, I have too many misgivings about Anastasia to do it through them…there is just too much junk out there about them, the final straw was seeing much the same here at a site I have come to trust over the last week or so. My only thought around this is to call her on the phone, using Anastasia’s overpriced program and asking for her home phone number during this call. Their web site states:

Q: Is it allowed to get a lady’s private e-mail address and phone number during the phone call?

A: Yes, it is allowed. When you call a lady through our Phone Introduction service you are allowed to exchange any personal and contact information, including telephone numbers and email addresses. During the conversation the interpreter will stay on-line to help you handle the conversation if a lady speaks no English or if her English is poor.

E’s English is listed as Conversation Proficiency and she once told me she wrote her letters in English and had the translator proofread them for grammar before sending. My thought is that if I call her and get her home phone number I can call her at a later date (soon after) and see if I can find out if she’s signed up with a smaller agency I might be able to go through or to suggest that she sign up with Elena’s and then we can continue our communication through them. If she wants to just continue going through Anastasia then I guess that might just be a final "confirmation" that something isn’t right and I’d probably move on. I’m realistic about this anyway…I’m not expecting that we’ll end up getting married or anything, I look at any future meeting as being a nice trip to a country I’ve never been to and if something else develops great but wouldn’t be expecting it to happen. It’s just that IF she is "real" I would hate to write her off just because of Anastasia’s reputation and continuing through them will just keep bringing up nagging doubts since I don’t trust them at all…and no relationship built on such mistrust can ever hope to flourish. I wish that I could contact the aforementioned translator who also is listed at that charity in Odessa but I obviously don’t know anybody over there so that’s just not possible.

Anyway, if anybody has any information on those two sites I mentioned earlier I would appreciate feedback…will still have to try to figure out what to do about E. Sorry this was so long…you can see now why I said that my letters to E are rather long - at least I’m consistent. lol

Mark

Posted by: GoingToRussia

Welcome to the RMP Zharis! Yes there is a lot of useful information on this site and a lot of good people ... of course there are a few bad people too so don't 'walk away' if you feel like you're being attacked.

This girl sounds legit. I don't see any red flags except for the dating agency. Sounds like you've done your homework and are way ahead of most newbies.

I haven't tried the 2 websites you mentioned but if memory serves me right, they aren't popular with the members on this site. Here are 2 more websites www.freepersonals.ru and www.allrussiansinglegirls.com. The other favorite is Eleana's Models but you know about this one.

There are 2 things you can do about E. One is send flowers if you can get her address, then have a picture taken and ask the delivery company to get her phone number and e-mail address. Or you can do this with the agency call if you don't have her address. The www.freepersonals.com is a free website for men and women so she can also join there. Then you wouldn't have to get a membership from Eleana's. I met the girl I'm seeing now on the Free Personals site.

I'm not sure how old you are but I know 2 women, 38 and 40 years old, if interested. One wants children and the other doesn't. Both are very sweet and good women.

I wish you good luck with your search.

Happy Landings!
GTR

Posted by: Raspberry

Loveme.com is essentially "AFA" or "A Foreign Affair". They seem to be a good, reliable agency.....but unfortunately, I have not too much luck with the women there. I have written several, but with no reply. And the one I did get a reply from removed her profile about a month later.

I did get their sample DVD(free, incidentally), but havent played it yet.

"Blue Sapphires" is part of the Angelika Network, which includes The Russian Women Network, and other sites.

One thing I will say about Angelika is that they do require the ladies to write back within 10 days, otherwise they plan to remove the lady from the site. So, even if you are rejected, they will at least answer back, and your will know for sure.

Posted by: Zharis

Thanks for the replies, guys, appreciate it. GTR, thanks for the info on the other sites. BTW, I just turned 45...got divorced about 16 years ago (just after I got back from Desert Storm) after being married not quite four years (no kids). My ex wife was/is half Chinese, half Japanese, born in Korea and grew up in the US after the age of about 12 (orphaned)...used to call her my little mutt.

So, have some experience being with a foreign woman...even though she had been in the US for about 13 years at the time we had gotten married, and she had become somewhat "Americanized" she was still most definitely a Korean woman - despite the cute southern drawl she had. I understand that Russian/Ukrainian women have a different culture than Koreans but they're both different than American so I hope this might help me some.

Even before I married her I dated mostly Asian women...Korean, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese...yes, there is extra "work" involved but the cultural difference, to me, makes the relationship just that much more interesting - well worth it. I absolutely love history and having spent almost 8 years in the army I got to experience a lot of different cultures - Korea (for a year), Germany (a couple times, about 5 months total) and short stopovers in Japan, Australia, Phillipines, England, etc. I think having the opportunity to actually visit Ukraine or Russia would be the trip of a lifetime...I remember being a young boy and sitting for hours looking at maps and pictures of these areas and wondering what these people were like and what the country looked like.

I just can't wait but I don't want to rush things either. I proposed to my first wife after dating for a month and we got married 6 months later...despite some red flags that came up which I ignored. I don't blame her...at the time (25 yrs old) I thought I could overcome anything - that whole superman feeling when one is young. But it cost me a lot...threw away a very promising army career (one that I had dreamed of since I was 4 years old) because I just wanted to "get away from everything" and went through some bad times trying to recover mentally. Haven't dated in about 10 years despite having quite a few opportunities...always politely declined - actually even prayed that I would never meet a woman that interested me because I didn't want to go through something like that again. But that all changed about 6 months...can't explain it but I just suddenly have a different outlook.

Even if it doesn't work out for a long-term relationship, going over and experiencing a different culture is going to be awesome. BTW, my ex-wife was 6 months younger than me so I know that while age and maturity as well as compatability matter...age is not the end-all for a successful relationship (within reason of course). Thankfully I've learned from my marriage and I've gotten more mature so hopefully these will help me in my search...I am much more aware of red flags than I was then for sure.

Probably more than anyone really wanted to know but then I never claimed to hide my thoughts very well.

Thanks again.