are REALLY there all these success stories agencies tell us?

Originally Posted by ham

this validates another point of mine:
are really there all those success stories agencies etc tell us about?!


besides glamorous cases of hollywood styled divorces & murder, we must understand these old(er) men, who later fall victims of infidelity & a trip to the cleaners, were -at some point- part of those overwhelming, countless success stories as agencies & parties with vested interests to do so would let believe.

Elsewhere i posted sources claiming the number of FSU-MOBs is ridiculous.

Interesting enough, even people from the above site, who otherwise show an analytical mind about the men/women struggle, in the end feed the public a bunch of outdated & overboard lies.

Now, let's concede for the sake of the argument that a bunch of such "success stories" exist.
In fact i'm not questioning there may be a few hundreds of happy, lasting MOB marriages...but numbers don't add up with what you read over the net.

1. Joe Bob is a novice. We all thought FSUWs might be the best thing since sliced bread, at one time or another. Well said, however, FSUWs are women from a different country, not a different planet . That says all. Besides, divorce % in the FSU are the same or worse than in the west...that should tell you something, unless you believe the urban legend Russian men are all jobless, violent drunkards.

2. Joe Bob is freshly married or filed application, but every "new" thing seems to work well. I can count on my fingers men claiming to have been successfully married for 5, 10+ years. Oftentimes a few men are recorded as "success stories" (especially by agencies ), then nobody knows what happens later down the road. I just read a couple news items about a) a man whose brokered model FSU wife was murdered by her lover (!!) and b) divorces. Of course these late "insuccess stories" are very rarely brought in the picture or oh well, the man was the usual pig, fat, old, abuse-prone cheap loser for only losers seek MOBs. Read a few MOB forums and you'll realize most FSUWs in the WWW/LD/MOB arena have a very poor opinion of men going that way. Yes, that includes YOU & ME & that's no use claiming we have lines of models ready for a date & we're the hit at the bar/pub scene...well, at least i'm not, otherwise i wouldn't be here, right?

typical agency claim=false



this another opinion from someone likely to have been counted as a success story a dozen times...who never happened to be one.

When polled by INS, junk dating farms boasted they had arranged countless marriages (more FSUWS than INS had ever known about ) but alas...they were unable to provide information up to date...you know...relocation, name/address change...reasonable, isn't it?

Numbers claimed by agencies are skewed, fantasy unsubstantiated numbers.
That said, nobody ever bothers following what happens 3,5,10 years down a success story's road unless -again- we read about it because of murder or other hollywood sensational stuff.

Often people rebut happy people have no reason to come in the open to vent...because they're busy being a success story.
Well, i didn't see those people you read about in the news coming in the open to vent, either...and they're a blatant insuccess.

As well, over the years a few non whites ( asians, africans etc ) have made a point to announce how easy & feasible for them was getting a piece of white a$$ in the FSU.
Some of their "success letters" still appear on the web.
Too bad you meet them later on bitter & disgruntled after disappointing experiences or a trip to the cleaners.
Yet they still are counted as success stories elsewhere.

Others challenge the credibility of this assumption & explain a fact away with the "loser theory" claiming the single man involved was a loser, an abuse-prone social misfit & other popcorn psychology categories.

i say: buyer beware

Originally Posted by ira156

Hey Ham. Great to see you back spreading words of incaluable wisdom. I have just 2 questions for you.

1) do you know ANYONE thats happy?????

2) Can you please give me YOUR formula that has made you such a happy and positive person????

Originally Posted by bobjf

ahh 1 of RMP'S unsolved mysteries

Originally Posted by ira156

Hey Bob its one that has me baffled.....i guess we'll have to wait till your on deaths door for you to post that you and Nat are Happy????

Originally Posted by ham

i could play the self-important "success", dilate upon "how we here... " and whatever, but i still have common sense. You have fun.
Nothing new under the sun, as someone honestly wrote:


You focus on me, instead, and how much better you feel online drawing comparisons with me, or what you think i am...



ah...it's a twist of "it's the other guy who's the real looser"...you crack me up.



No scammer will have a cent from me.

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I see no knight in shining armor commented on the above.
it's not made up...you got names from a press article.
Perhaps they think "it's the other guy who's a loser", "signs were all over to see" and the like, much like they are telling anyone who reports being scammed or whose relationship went south.
When push will come to shove, and i wish you it never will, we will see how much of a real tough boy you are.
In the meantime, i suspend my belief and remain skeptical.

Originally Posted by joelunchbox

The govt is worried that physically abusive people are looking for spouses overseas.