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Posted by: Thorburn

I have quoted the same guy below. The first post is one of his first posts and the second post is his most recent post.

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Originally Posted by estguy

09-07-2004, 03:38 PM
Ok,,lets do a wake up call !

Should Russian Woman be interested in coming to America?
,,if they are not, they are probably either ignorant, full of pride and stuborness, or just not much of a catch !

1.) a very corrupt Goevernment
2.) one of the worse Human rights in the world
3.) Their is no comunity property, when the man leaves the marriage, so does the money

4.) No child support orders or enforcement
5.) little or no chance of economic upward mobility

Forget all the rhetoric from the MOB assoc. about how nice us American men are, family oriented, non drinkers,, nonsense,, look at the real issues about quality of life, and the decission becomes clearer.

If I lived in Russia I would tell my daughter to get out, find a half way decent man, and make a decent life for you and your offsprings ! Love, and language and culture wont pay for baby formula wont pay for the heating bills.

Ok,,I'm putin on my flame suit

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Originally Posted by estguy

02-23-2007 08:18 AM I have been looking for advise on divorce, my wife is basically home sick, although the relationship is good, she says she can not live in this country. She has tried once before to adjust to america,,and it just isn't working for her, she is giving up, she has already left. So,,what is a simple way to divorce,annulment,, my attorney thinks it has to be this long dragged out affair. My wife just wants to be put back in the status that she was before she came to america,,single. I appreciate any direction,

This is NOT an invitation to kick a guy when he is down. I just think he learnt a hard lesson which might help us all understand things a little better.

Posted by: ira156

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Originally Posted by Thorburn

I have quoted the same guy below. The first post is one of his first posts and the second post is his most recent post.

This is NOT an invitation to kick a guy when he is down. I just think he learnt a hard lesson which might help us all understand things a little better.

Its sort of puts to rest the analigy that All FSU women are just looking for a country. Any seperation is sad....love language and culture dont pay the bills...but maybe a little more understanding in those areas would have helped the relationship survive?

I have mentioned to Nat constantly that my concern is filling the cultural gap that she will find here.....she says it doesnt matter...but i think its an area for me that i will have to try and make more of an effort.

I dont understand guys that are happy to settle for someone they feel is just looking for a better ( more materialistic ) life. They do have washing machines and cars Dvds big screen TV's ect ect. They may be harder to aquire but they are there. Some 50% of Moscow women are alone and wanting love in their lives....something many feel they cant find there. Most have been looking for 10 yrs or so if they are in their 30's...and its something they feel is slipping away as time goes by.

Posted by: Eryk

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Originally Posted by Thorburn

This is NOT an invitation to kick a guy when he is down. I just think he learnt a hard lesson which might help us all understand things a little better.

His attitude in the first post boils down to: "My country rocks, Russia sucks." and nothing in the second message indicates that he has altered this position. On the evidence presented, it doesn't seem to me he learned anything at all.

Something like: "My wife can't come to terms with the things in this country that suck in comparison to Russia and frankly I can see her point in a few cases." ...would be indicative of having actually learned something.

Eryk

Posted by: firemansam

Hey Eryk,
Must admit, I was baffled by this original post at first.. I did not know what Thornburn was trying to say.

But I did work it out and I gree with you, there is not a lot of lessons learnt but maybe in the end an attitude shift?

Sure it was not a great outcome for the poor fellow, but maybe his attitude is more alligned to finding his future woman?