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Discussion about using free Russian personals (rather than pay sites)
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Posted by: youlek

Why do you prefer free sites? Are you greedy? or are you poor?
just asking

Posted by: Raspberry

I'm always skeptical about "free" sites. Went to Free Russian Personals and just wasn't impressed. Plus I got all kinds of pop-ups(blocked of course) and some cookies and unwanted e-mails. You really get what you pay for.....

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by Raspberry

I'm always skeptical about "free" sites. Went to Free Russian Personals and just wasn't impressed. Plus I got all kinds of pop-ups(blocked of course) and some cookies and unwanted e-mails. You really get what you pay for.....

Hey Rasp,hows it going?

I can see that some people would feel skeptical about sites that are free.
The RMP is free,and its a great site.

I have never got a pop up from this site,cookies...maybe,but you get them from tons of sites.As for unwanted emails,the only ones I get are from the odd lady that I am not interested in.

I have met some ladies from the free sites and they were good people,just no chemistry inbetween us.
Each of us have a preferance in what we like,I have also used pay sites in the past,9 out of 10 never replied.

There are great people and bad people on both kinds of sites.

Randy

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by youlek

Why do you prefer free sites? Are you greedy? or are you poor?
just asking

Who are you asking this question?

If it is me that you are asking,I am neither greedy or poor.
I can find nice people on both kinds,the free or the pay sites,so to me it dose not matter which one I use.

Youlek,why are you using this free site??Are you greedy or poor?

Randy

Posted by: bobjf

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Originally Posted by youlek

Why do you prefer free sites? Are you greedy? or are you poor?
just asking

lets see hmmmmm

i met my wife on 1 a huge plus
no agency fees for poor translations or tokens to open letters
no being held on a string by an agency or haveing them prolong the process for there own profit
never wondering about letters being edited or if they even came from your girl & not boris
no paying for address's or phone numbers & thats if they will give them to you in the first place
we had personal contact from scratch & concidering language differences probably helped us work a bit harder for our dream.

cheap has nothing to do with it
myself & mark have spent more than you can comprehend to acheive our goals but neither of us went through an agency
we have discussed our costs & the amounts are frightening to say the least but both of us would tell you it isn't about cost & to us worth every cent

Posted by: firemansam

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Originally Posted by youlek

Why do you prefer free sites? Are you greedy? or are you poor?
just asking

I think that the reason they are talking of free sites, in this instance, is because they do not wish to advertise any paid sites for free in the Russian encyclopedia....

Sure we all know that there are good paid sites, but why advertise for them to gain them some more revenue when they are not paying for the advertising...

This is my opinion as to why the guys are speaking only of free sites at this point in time....

Posted by: youlek

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Originally Posted by mistermopar

Youlek,why are you using this free site??Are you greedy or poor? Randy

I am using only the forum of this site.
The matter is different. I only talk to you. And you use free sites to find your second half.
You still haven't answered my question. If you may let yourself pay to an agency, why do you use free sites?
Just I used to work in this sphere. I understand Russian women, who are not able to pay to a certain site. Though some Russian women do it.
I am asking this question, as there are a lot of men, who don't want to spend even one $. I don't mean any of you.
Just if you are not able even to pay for placing your profile, then why do u look for a Russian wife? It'll be more expensive to bring her to your country. If you are greedy ...be sure she'll leave you soon.
I am writing this to help you to understand Russian women.
Free things are seldom good.

Posted by: Raspberry

I also saw some seemingly nice ladies on a site called "Eurolovliness", and they even had all the personal e-mails all for free. Was going to join them, but it fell apart when I was ready to do so.......and now, when you try to pull up the site, it automatically directs you to a porn site.

Needless to say, I am skeptical about free sites. But I hear EECL is supposedly good, and it's free.

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by youlek

Hummm,lets see,I started writing a very nice lady on a free site,after we wrote for a while, I went to Russia and meet her,she was very nice,but not the one I was looking for.We are still very good friends.
I can pay to go to Russia,and I can pay to bring someone to my country if they are the right one.

It dose not matter if I find someone on a free or pay site,I only want to find the right lady.Ladies on a free site are just as good as a pay site.

Randy

Posted by: youlek

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Originally Posted by mistermopar

ok ok. Just there are a lot of foreign men who are very greedy

Posted by: mistermopar

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Originally Posted by youlek

ok ok. Just there are a lot of foreign men who are very greedy

Yes,you are right Youlek,there are a lot of men that are greedy.
There are also many men that write to ladies in the FSU that will never travel to see them.

I have been to the FSU 4 times now,so I am not one of them men.
I enjoy going to Russia,I think it is very beautiful there and the people that I meet are very nice.

Randy

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally Posted by youlek

ok ok. Just there are a lot of foreign men who are very greedy

Youlek,

Sounds to me like you have a problem with money... you just want to spend it to spend it.. who cares if you are getting value for your money..

Just because you use a free site it makes you greedy??? I have seen many of the women on the free sites that are also on the pay sites... from what I have been told it does NOT cost the women anything to be on the pay sites, so they don't care...

And MANY of the pay sites are stealing from you... Is it smart to get robbed on a continuous basis?? Sounds to me like you WORK for one of the pay sites and want to rip off westerner even more....

Tell us your story???

Posted by: youlek

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Originally Posted by Texas Proud

I've never had problems with money. When I still studied at University, I started my own business. I helped women to place their profile and translate letters.
I closed that business a year ago, when I found another job. Now I am a manager of logistics+ a translator.
If I worked for any site, I'd give you a link to it.
All I can give you is the web site of my work and of my medved
www.sigma-vlz.ru
he-he
Just I wonder, you've mentioned that women pay to some sites. The why do men not pay?
The question is not in this.
I remember how women said that their men brought them things (as presents), which were bought in second-hand shops... How men demand something more because they've spent so much money on this trip.
I have nothing against foreign men. Because I also know a lot of Russian women, who just use foreign men.

Posted by: youlek

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Proud

Is it smart to get robbed on a continuous basis??

Oh, you are right. It is smarter to be robbed by scammers from free sites.
Just some memberships cost about 4 $.

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally Posted by youlek

Just I wonder, you've mentioned that women pay to some sites. The why do men not pay?
The question is not in this.
I remember how women said that their men brought them things (as presents), which were bought in second-hand shops... How men demand something more because they've spent so much money on this trip.
I have nothing against foreign men. Because I also know a lot of Russian women, who just use foreign men.

You read wrong.... and it is interesting if you do translations... I said women DO NOT pay for being on a site... so they don't care which sites they are on..

And again.. it sounds like you don't like Western men... why?? Because you say you know a lot of Russian women who USE foreign men.. That means they are scamming them... stealing from them... but you are OK with that it seems...

And any man that 'demands' anything because he bought something is a low life and should be kicked to the curb..

Posted by: Texas Proud

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Originally Posted by youlek

Oh, you are right. It is smarter to be robbed by scammers from free sites.
Just some memberships cost about 4 $.

I have not been robbed by scammers from free sites... almost all I have written have been nice ladies... (and BTW, I have gotten addresses from pay sites also.. one of them being THIS site back when they charged)...

And which memberships cost only $4??? I don't see them... I see many with $20 or $40 per month... and some with $8 per LETTER!!! And some that will not let you write to the lady after you start to learn about each other... Where is this $4 site??

Posted by: heyjimi

i found a real sweetheart on the free russian personals that i'm going to meet in march in uzbekistan,in fact all the girls i wrote to and whom wrote back all seemed nice and sincere. on the other hand,i used a pay site,paid to open every letter i read and replied,i was wriitting to a nice lady on there,she seemed sincere,but as if pressured to write because the agency made her.i found the free personals more pleasureable,got addresses right away,phone number right away . just two people getting to know each other.no translators(monitoring letters).no tokens to purchase.etc,....but thats me,both paid and free have pros and cons.........

jim

Posted by: youlek

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Originally Posted by Texas Proud

I am not going to explain you anything. But you'd be surprised to know that 60% of women prefer to pay to a site to publish their profiles
That's why I asked why men prefer free sites

as for feeling ok when I see how men are scammed. firstly, men have their own brains, secondaly, none of my "ex-clients" did it, and at least who will listen to a stranger, teling him that he is being scammed?
Your woman is scamming you. Do you believe me?

I am telling that I don't like men, who bring a chewing gum as a present, then tell how expensive it was and start demanding to sleep with him
I am sure not all men are like this.
But it is very difficult to find a good man now. I still know some women, who are in search.
If you know Russian a little, go to forum.antidate.org you'll see the reality of Internating dating from a female point of view. If you have a weak heart, don't open that page.

Posted by: gonlaz

Hey youlek, I am jreading this thread and to be honest with you, if you are tying to start conteversy, I don't think it is going to go very far. Most guys on here from what I can see use pay sites, but some don't.

Opening a thread by using the words you use, you are obviously speaking to specific people, none of which I think are here.

I would suggest that you use more words in the thread title post, like "If you refuse to use pay sites, why?", and also saying things like "are you poor or greedy, is kind of lame, actually it's very lame.

But also this conversation can go both ways as I am sure you are aware. Anyone can lie at any time, I am sure you have lied also, yes? So nobody is perfect and that's pretty much it.

THREAD OVER

Posted by: clark

Texas Proud it seems to me you might be being a bit harsh on Youlek for offering her perspective. Right, wrong or indifferent it is her perception of the situation and the way she sees it. I say take it as a learning curve because like it or not there are always 3 sides to every one of these stories. Her side, His side and the real truth of the matter.

I have used both free and paid sites and personally do not have a preference over one from the other. Some free sites seemed a total waste of time while some paid sites did as well. Adversely, some paid sites were very adequate in connecting to possible interests as was some free sites. I would venture to say a free site might work better for some and a paid site worked better for others.

Youlek, it is not a matter of a man being cheap or greedy. It's a matter of which one he found that worked better for him individually. We all know that there is a sucker born every second and YES there are matchmaking sites by the hundreds of thousands lining up to make a profit from that concept. It is a very expensive endeavor to prospect an FSU lady for a future mate. For a man to take precaution to limit his expense or loss and protect himself clearly makes sense. I can't imagine a man showing up in Russia and expecting to get laid BECAUSE he incurred this expense. But you say you've witnessed it, so I believe you. That would make the individual a bonehead and a sex tourist, which is not by most accounts the members of this particular forum.

If I've said it once in this forum I've said it a dozen times. You can't stereo-type and generalize by nationality or gender and expect to be taken serious in a serious discussion. IMHO

Posted by: youlek

I didn't mean that all men are like that. But I had to translate such men.
I have nothing against free sites.
Just I don't respect people who want to receive EVERYTHING for free

Posted by: clark

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Originally Posted by youlek

I didn't mean that all men are like that. But I had to translate such men.
I have nothing against free sites.
Just I don't respect people who want to receive EVERYTHING for free

Youlek that is a fair enough answer. However, you made implication in your previous posts that one using a free site wants everything for free and therefore greedy. I hope I explained how that is simply not the case. It is also possible that there are many men who can afford a russian wife but does not have the expendable cash required on many of these matchmaking sites or agencies. Some of these sites get very expensive and many men are on many sites.

The other part of your implication is that all of these foreign men seeking a partner in Russia or other FSU countries are "rich". Which appears that you are perpetuating a false rumor. I think I can safely state that very few if any of these men are wealthy by western standards. No doubt you have translated letters by some cheapskate men. I'm sure there are many who want something for nothing. From your statement it would appear "many" russian women also want something for nothing. By way of expecting presents for emails and attention to a foreign man. Wouldn't you agree that possibly neither of these are truly seeking a lifetime partner?

Maybe I have my head in the clouds or up my rectum but one who is seeking a lifetime partner shouldn't "expect" to give or receive presents or gifts. If it's expected, it's not a present. It's a payment.

Matters of the heart, in my opinion, does not have a cash value. Some men are very generous and some are very frugal. Some are stupid and some are downright cheap. There hundreds of scenerios when two people on opposite ends of the earth attemp to find a husband or wife in this medium. I have a question for you however, where did you post these ladies profiles that you received so many responses from apparently cheap foreign men?

Posted by: youlek

I totally agree with you.
I never thought that if a man is foreign, he becomes rich automatically.
I don't respect women who wants everything for free either.
Today I've heard a joke "I respect all points of view, but I don't like them" that was funny