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What you think RW prefer in age

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Posted by: mistermopar

Ok,I have read over and over that men think yonger RW prefer older men.
I am hoping to find out if this is what the men here think.

I have also added what men think older RW prefer.
You can vote twice,once for younger women and once for older women.

Please,lets keep the posts fun and informative in this thread.

Randy



Posted by: I/O

Age is much more about "Who" you are feeling than "How" you are feeling. (Tongue planted firmly in cheek of course)

Mine and I have a gap of 17 years, which I consider on the edge of what is practically workable in the long term. I posed the question to her early and received a reply thus.:
Quote:
Certainly I have restrictions on the age of my partner, however I know several couples in Russia who have a similar age difference and all is fine. I feel that if we wish the similar things in life then 17 years is not a problem. Thus I do not consider this matter further. What do you think?




Posted by: mistermopar

I/O,17 years is not a real big differance,I have known many people with this age gap.Myself when I was 23 dated a lady that was 17 years older than myself.Hummm...the things I had learned.

I think that most young RW prefer someone in their own age bracket,and there are the few that do like older or much older,and that older RW would also stay in there own age gap,with the exception of some that like younger men.Or as they are known "cougars" here in Canada and I think the US also.

Randy



Posted by: inlove

For a long term relationship/marriage, both younger and older women generally prefer partners close to their own age. For the most part, the age difference up to 10 years is considered the most acceptable. Exceptions do happen, of course, but that's what they are.. exceptions.



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by inlove
For a long term relationship/marriage, both younger and older women generally prefer partners close to their own age. For the most part, the age difference up to 10 years is considered the most acceptable. Exceptions do happen, of course, but that's what they are.. exceptions.


Thanks Inlove,that is also what I believe.
But I keep hearing people say that young RW like old men,I do not know why this is.
Is it that some of the dating sites send out adds of young women to members to get them to write more (pay more) letters by having them believe that these young ladies are wanting them?

Randy



Posted by: Jerico

Well I dont like to think of myself as old , LOL , but i guess i am if 40 is old.
I am 12 years older than my wife and she seems not to mind at all.

When i started this I had many 18 and 19 year olds wanting to meet me.
I would tell them they are a little young and they always told me it didn`t matter to them.
One 19 year old persisted in keeping in touch with me.
I would tell her she`s to young but she wouldn`t give up. Hehhe.

One Ukrainian girl sent me an actual letter from her town with a couple of pictures. The pictures were taken from around her apartment and she was very cute. She wrote me a letter in English. I could tell she took some time writing the letter.
On one of the pictures she sent ,there was a heart and underneath the heart written in English " your Ukrainian girl". She was 18, real young but I kind of felt sorry for her because she took the time to send me an actual letter in the mail. I did however send her a letter saying that I thought she was to young.
Of course now that i think about it J/K



Posted by: mistermopar

Hi Jerico,why do you think so many young girls are writing older men..(not that you are old) but 18 year old girls writing 40 year old men?
Are they the ones looking for a way out of the FSU,or are they maybe scammers looking for a quick $$ from what they are hoping to be desperate old men.

Randy



Posted by: Dave_N_Elvira

You might actually find it is due to the fact of the age of people who seek out a wife in Russia. Jerico would have been in his mid to late thirties when he was getting these letters. If you look at the average age of people who seek out a Russian bride it is probably somewhere around the mid forties. That would put Jerico in the younger age bracket of those seeking a wife. Other factors are likely economic and the lack of available decent men in Russia. I am sure they would like to find someone in their twenties but there just isn’t enough of those guys involved in the process for the number of young ladies out there.



Posted by: Jerico

You know Randy,
I might of thought they were all about the money 3 years ago.
I think you can actually get one being 40 and she 18 to 20.
I think it can be done.
Probably 30 would be better range IMHO.
Even at 30 years old here in the USA ( California at least) its tough to buy a house for the average guy. Starting single homes at 325,000.
Difficult for most to purchase IMHO
A 40 year old probably has his act together and is more settled ,meaning home,cars,retirement,boats,etc.
Sure she cares about the money aspect but can you blame her?
What you look like matters also in repect to your age.
I think they are smart if they are young and know they might have a better chance at doing things in thier life marrying a foreign man.

Sure its give and take. They are still young in their thinking ( which is normal) while a 40 year old guy has already done those things.


For me a younger woman works because I possibly would like to have children later. Also I am an active guy.
I dont like to stay home.
I like to go out to nightclubs even though i am getting older and the crowd is getting younger :-)
Anyway ya i think you can meet sincere younger woman over in Russia.
Of course you might have to deal with the ( robbing the cradle ) remarks from your friends.Heh
Jerry



Posted by: bingism

Well, all of the couples that I have met since I've been here in Ufa have had an age gap of no more than 10 years (there's 7 between myself and Zhanna) Funnily enough, there is some derision of the East-West relationship issue here and people simply assume that there will be a bigger age gap in them. It's widely assumed (even if wrongly) that any girl here that's with a much older man, Russian or otherwise, is with him because he has money.

Before I get slated, I'm just passing on observations and not passing judgement.



Posted by: mistermopar

Thanks Dave and Jerico for your imput.

Bing,hows it going in sunny Ufa??
With you living in Russia you see first hand everything that gos on there.
It is a big help to us not (yet) living there.
10 years age gap seems to be the average so far,as it is in most cultures.

I would like to know where all the people are that have said and are saying that young RW go for the old men,I know they are out there and would like to hear their side.

Randy



Posted by: youlek

as for me I don't understand marriages in which grandfathers marry granddaughters



Posted by: Manchester

Quote:
Originally Posted by inlove
For a long term relationship/marriage, both younger and older women generally prefer partners close to their own age. For the most part, the age difference up to 10 years is considered the most acceptable. Exceptions do happen, of course, but that's what they are.. exceptions.


I agree with that. Nobody wants to marry a Grandad unless she is mercenary and wants his ranch in Texas!

I think once you get over 10 years the more you go puts you more at risk of encountering a GCH proportionatley.



Posted by: bingism

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Thanks Dave and Jerico for your imput.

Bing,hows it going in sunny Ufa??
With you living in Russia you see first hand everything that gos on there.
It is a big help to us not (yet) living there.
10 years age gap seems to be the average so far,as it is in most cultures.

I would like to know where all the people are that have said and are saying that young RW go for the old men,I know they are out there and would like to hear their side.

Randy

Hey Randy,

All good here - had its ups and downs but seems to be on track now! Got a 20% pay rise recently and Zhanna is in the third month of her new job, so financially things are a little easier It's still not easy street, but we aren't exactly struggling either. Teaching is pretty good too - I'm actually teaching the boss's daughter in my Upper-Intermediate group, so I guess that's a pretty nice vote of confidence... or a spy in my midst lol

I'm definitely seeing things from a number of different angles now that I'm living here and the biggest thing is that there is a huge amount of BS and misconception that flies around internet, especially about how poor and destitute everyone is. Contrary to popular belief, there's not so many people desperate to leave the Motherland! At some point in the future, I intend to write my tome about "Teaching in Russia" plus "Myths vs. Reality"... just a problem finding the time to do it justice

So, how're your plans coming along?



Posted by: cedarwind

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Hi Jerico,why do you think so many young girls are writing older men..(not that you are old) but 18 year old girls writing 40 year old men?
Are they the ones looking for a way out of the FSU,or are they maybe scammers looking for a quick $$ from what they are hoping to be desperate old men.

Randy


I think most of them are looking or $$$ and a way out. I am 33 and I did not have any women under 24 write to me.....Maybe I should wait untill I turn 40....I will have bettter luck. LOL



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manchester
I agree with that. Nobody wants to marry a Grandad unless she is mercenary and wants his ranch in Texas!


My dad who is now 73 said he could never envisage sleeping with an old granny! now he does so every night and has done for over 52 years now .......funny how things change



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrismc
My dad who is now 73 said he could never envisage sleeping with an old granny! now he does so every night and has done for over 52 years now .......funny how things change


LOL,sooner or later in life men will all be sleeping with an old granny and women will be sleeping with old men,hopfully it is later.

Randy



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by bingism
Hey Randy,

All good here - had its ups and downs but seems to be on track now! Got a 20% pay rise recently and Zhanna is in the third month of her new job, so financially things are a little easier It's still not easy street, but we aren't exactly struggling either. Teaching is pretty good too - I'm actually teaching the boss's daughter in my Upper-Intermediate group, so I guess that's a pretty nice vote of confidence... or a spy in my midst lol

I'm definitely seeing things from a number of different angles now that I'm living here and the biggest thing is that there is a huge amount of BS and misconception that flies around internet, especially about how poor and destitute everyone is. Contrary to popular belief, there's not so many people desperate to leave the Motherland! At some point in the future, I intend to write my tome about "Teaching in Russia" plus "Myths vs. Reality"... just a problem finding the time to do it justice

So, how're your plans coming along?


Hi Bing,good to hear things are going better,and financially things have got better for you and Zhanna.
Oh Oh,teaching the boss's daughter... LOL

It would be great if you started a thread on "Myths vs. Reality"
I also believe that there are not so many desperate to leave Russia,not like back in the 1990s.

As for my plans...I am hoping to sell the house this summer,then I will have more freedom to leave for Russia/Ukraine.
I have got some info about a school that is suppost to open in the near future. I will PM you the rest later.

Randy



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by cedarwind
I think most of them are looking or $$$ and a way out. I am 33 and I did not have any women under 24 write to me.....Maybe I should wait untill I turn 40....I will have bettter luck. LOL

or you may start dating a pregnant woman or better to say not-born baby. ha-ha
go to "age difference" thread, all men are trying to assure me that when grandfathers marry granddaughters, it is only love



Posted by: RRR

Quote:
Originally Posted by youlek
as for me I don't understand marriages in which grandfathers marry granddaughters


Oh no... You again? ... j/k! :-P



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by RRR
Oh no... You again? ... j/k! :-P


ha-ha, not again but always. It find it funny how grandfathers, marrying granddaughters, try to assure everybody that it love. So I like to discuss it...sorry for being bad but it is amusing



Posted by: mistermopar

Hi Youlek,thank you for your information.

This thread is talking about what people think young and old RW prefer in the age of their partner.
I see that you have already talked about grandfathers marrying granddaughters in another thread,maybe we could keep it in the other thread.
Thank you

Randy



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Hi Youlek,thank you for your information.

This thread is talking about what people think young and old RW prefer in the age of their partner.
I see that you have already talked about grandfathers marrying granddaughters in another thread,maybe we could keep it in the other thread.
Thank you

Randy


oki, I'll follow the thread. I wouldn't like to marry a man, being the age of my father



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by youlek
oki, I'll follow the thread. I wouldn't like to marry a man, being the age of my father


Ok,so you would like to marry a man the is near your own age,that is good.

Do most young women in Russia also like to marry men near their own age?

Randy



Posted by: vic2012

I haven’t written for a while.
I was dating a girl 25 years younger than me and we got on really well. But when I prepared to apply for a visa for her and her son, she got cold feet and that was the end of that. Or so I thought.
After a few days, I saw her adverting on a dating site and the site said she had a 95% success rate! I was pretty depressed and stopped writing on RMP.
After about six weeks I called her, to see how she was and she was so happy to hear from me.
Within days, she had shut her site down and we were back together again. She said I gave her so much emotional security and she had missed that very much. Although she had a lot of replies, no one made her feel as secure as she had felt, after she had read my very first letter to her (Oct 2005).
I’ve been to Siberia twice more since then (five times last year) and she is preparing to come to the UK this spring and for us to get married.
It’s got NOTHING to do with age (or financial security in my case). It’s all about how you feel together. We really do love each other.
She says she would rather have just ten or twenty years together with me, than none at all.
I cannot stress enough, how important emotional security and feeling safe is, in a relationship, for most of these women. If you offer this, then age is not a barrier. In my case, I just think I'm a lucky guy!

ps I posted our Christmas photo at the RED LION http://russianmeetingplace.com/foru...1&postcount=438



Posted by: Pin Boy

nice story vic...welcome back and best of luck on out!

pin boy



Posted by: mistermopar

Thanks for your story Vic,I wish you much happiness.


I was just looking at the polls and it seems that no one so far thinks that young RW prefer considerably old men.

Is it just me or have yous heard from people that young RW like old men.


Randy



Posted by: vic2012

Its like this Randy.

Given the complete freedom of choice, a RW would go for a clever, hunky, family loving guy about three of four years older than her. But fortunately for us older farts, life for those girls, aint that simple. And I was in for a big surprise.

Back in Oct 2005, when I first turned to FSU for a partner, I spent a long weekend trolling through many dating sites and, literally thousands of women and, finally came up with my top 20. Some of them were real babes and I never actually got round to writing to them. A rejection does hurt the ego, so why look for one. So I drew up a short list of 5 (of the more interesting ones) and wrote to them. All replied very positively. But it was only Viktorija (the youngest) who actually answered my questions and comments. And so, things took off from there.

In August 2006, when I found myself alone again, I started looking at dating sites again. So imagine my surprise when I found that more than half the women on my top 20 list of a year before, were still there, looking for partners.

So what does that tell you. Either they are extremely picky and are prepared to hang on indefinitely, or they have not received very many quality responses.

Its easy to forget the statistics. I think its over 80% of male correspondents will never visit FSU. About 25% live in trailer parks, on welfare or at subsistant levels. About 50% think RW are desperate and some incredibly high percentage lie, lie, lie.

We spend inordinate amounts of time here, discussing and worrying about scammers. But for one minute, just imagine what a minefield it is, for most of these girls.

So, the long and short of the matter is: Write a sincere and genuinely warm introductory letter. She wants to feel safe and emotionally secure (especially if she has a kid). And AGE WILL NOT THEN, BE A MAJOR FACTOR.

Viktorija came back to me after six weeks of receiving uninteresting intoductory letters from guys. She never, for one moment, thought that she would end up with a man 25 years older and, certainly had never consciously looked for a much older man (I'm a young 56 and she's 31, see our photo together - link above)

One last thing. On most sites, girls will put the upper age limit of the partner they seek. Its surprising how many say 50 or 55. Why is that? Do they have low aspirations or are they being realistic?



Posted by: I/O

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Given the complete freedom of choice, a RW would go for a clever, hunky, family loving guy about three of four years older than her. But fortunately for us older farts, life for those girls, aint that simple.


That is about the most accurate and informed comment I have seen anywhere on any forum on this subject.

Very well said Sir, I bow to one who can summarise it in a few words.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
We spend inordinate amounts of time here, discussing and worrying about scammers. But for one minute, just imagine what a minefield it is, for most of these girls.

So, the long and short of the matter is: Write a sincere and genuinely warm introductory letter. She wants to feel safe and emotionally secure (especially if she has a kid). And AGE WILL NOT THEN, BE A MAJOR FACTOR


I tend to agree with that also. Just now I am gong over in March to visit a lady who is 3 years younger than me, but in the past I have had ladies write to me who are all sorts of ages, some over 20 years younger, if they are of that age then I always query their reason for writing to me first knowing that I am a lot older, every single one has come up with their own reason why they have done so and they are all very plausable and you can believe are genuine, most say they have written for as Vic says above, they want someone to look after them, they want to feel security, they do not want someone with bad habits eg drinking and drugs etc.........the only reason I have not pursued these relationships is that we have not gelled and there has not been that initial spark and common interest between us.

Just in the last few weeks a very attractive lady of 29 years old has written to me and we have exchanged a number of emails, but to be honest I doubt it will go any further as we do not seem to have a lot in common, whereas the one who I am going to visit seems perfect on the face of it and especially in emails, letters and phone calls we have had. Who will know until we meet, we just happen to be of a similar age, but it would not matter what her age is, the fact is we need to have things in common and we need to get on and have similar interests and we need to have personalities that gell. Then the age difference will not be of any significance IMO



Posted by: nocomfortzone

Quote:
Originally Posted by youlek
go to "age difference" thread, all men are trying to assure me that when grandfathers marry granddaughters, it is only love



"all men" ????

hmmm. i posted in that thread and that is certainly not what i posted about.
You clearly lack real comprehension and assume much.



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by I/O
That is about the most accurate and informed comment I have seen anywhere on any forum on this subject.

Very well said Sir, I bow to one who can summarise it in a few words.


I will agree 100%.

Thank you Vic for the excelent post.
There was so much feeling and thought in it.

Randy



Posted by: mistermopar

Thank you Chrismc for a great post.

I wish you the best on your up coming trip and hope you have a great time.

Randy



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Ok,so you would like to marry a man the is near your own age,that is good.

Do most young women in Russia also like to marry men near their own age?

Randy


I prefer a little bit older men. But not very old. It is not true that Russian women are crazy about old men. If you check statistics of Russian marriages, onnly 10% of women marry men, who are much older. But it is up to everybody.



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by youlek
I prefer a little bit older men. But not very old. It is not true that Russian women are crazy about old men. If you check statistics of Russian marriages, onnly 10% of women marry men, who are much older. But it is up to everybody.


Thank you Youlek for the information.

How much older of a man would be ok for you?

Where can I find the ststistics of Russian marriages?

Thanks

Randy



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Thank you Youlek for the information.

How much older of a man would be ok for you?

Where can I find the ststistics of Russian marriages?

Thanks

Randy


Why do you want to know what age would be ok for me? he-he
as for your second question .... qui cherche -trouve



Posted by: vic2012

Randy
I seem to remember RBS (was that his monica), who created a lot of trouble on this site a year ago, came up with some UN statistics, which showed that Russia had a similar marriage pattern to the US. There was no higher number of large age difference marriages to anywhere else.

However, there was a larger age gap in Russian women marrying Johnny foreigner.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Thank you Chrismc for a great post.

I wish you the best on your up coming trip and hope you have a great time.

Randy

Thanks Randy for your good wishes.



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by youlek
Why do you want to know what age would be ok for me? he-he
as for your second question .... qui cherche -trouve


It is just a question...it is good to find out about the people that use this site.

Randy



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Randy
I seem to remember RBS (was that his monica), who created a lot of trouble on this site a year ago, came up with some UN statistics, which showed that Russia had a similar marriage pattern to the US. There was no higher number of large age difference marriages to anywhere else.

However, there was a larger age gap in Russian women marrying Johnny foreigner.


Yes I remember RBS,lets hope it is not another one.

Randy



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
It is just a question...it is good to find out about the people that use this site.

Randy

Oh great...just so many questions ...plus my imagination

joking



Posted by: southsounder253

just wondering why all the worry about age in Russia ,its the same as many countries (I have heard)age is just that doesn't stop a love relationship, if repect and values and love are shared,yes i have a young Russia friend she is comming here in July



Posted by: mistermopar

Welcome to the RMP southsounder253.I think you might find some helpfull info on this site.

Myself I do not have a prob with ages and do prefer older women.
I have came across posts that people get all up tight when a young woman dates or marries an older man.

I just wanted to find out what age people think young RW prefer in a man.

Randy



Posted by: vic2012

Randy,
My final say on this thread,

Why are there endless discussions, on so many different threads, on this vexed subject of, big age difference couples? A parallel thread to this, about age difference, with postings only last week, has been running here for three years!

I think it’s to do with participants desperately trying to justify their choice of young partners, against a background of hostility, moral indignation and I believe jealousy on the part of many viewers and correspondents.

The justification comes in the form of: it’s quite normal in Russia, for women to marry men of similar age to their fathers. (but, for once and for all, lets lay this myth to rest. It aint!)

The moral outrage comes in the form of: Cradle snatcher, it will all end in tears and marriages with more than 12 years difference are doomed! There’s no love in these marriages. Well, a woman at thirty (often with kids) is hardly cradle material. And just as, there’s no evidence of big age difference marriages being prevalent, there’s no evidence of early break ups or divorce being prevalent either. And love is universal.

This is a case of live and let live. What two people want to do together is up to them and no one else. These situations happen because these two people want then to. And, there are no rights or wrongs in these situations.

Look at Don4, a RMP member who writes in each year to tell us that, his marriage to a woman forty years younger, is going well. Believe it or not they live together in an old people’s retirement home.

This is a discussion forum and people can air their views. So I can only re-itterate what was said on the other thread. Absolutely no one has the right to say these partnerships are Right or Wrong.



Posted by: mistermopar

vic2012,hey I agree with you 100%.

Maybe you did not read the start of the thread.
It was,"what do people think young RW prefer in an age differance".
I don't know why people always want to talk about the 3 or 4 that marry much older men.
From the poll not one person voted for it,they voted same age or a little older.

People are free to see or marry who ever they like,white or black,young or old.What other people say about it shouldn't matter unless the person is feeling insecure about their choice.

Randy



Posted by: swindoom

My wife is looking for a suitable man to meet her mother and she cannot understand why there are so many older men specifically looking for women 20 or 30 years younger. She has stated, it is not something young Russian really desire they prefer men of similar age, max 10 years older, but it does happen more often than not for financial reasons.

Personally I do not think age gap is a way of determining if a marriage will work or not, it is down to the two people involved.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by swindoom
My wife is looking for a suitable man to meet her mother and she cannot understand why there are so many older men specifically looking for women 20 or 30 years younger. She has stated, it is not something young Russian really desire they prefer men of similar age, max 10 years older, but it does happen more often than not for financial reasons.

Personally I do not think age gap is a way of determining if a marriage will work or not, it is down to the two people involved.


Swindoom....I agree about the age gap.....it may be worthwhile though posting the age of your wifes mother here if you can, give people an idea of her age group etc. Also is she in the UK or back home in Ukraine/Russia etc. does she speak English etc etc.

BTW are you and Mrs Swindoom up for the NW England meet in February see the thread.

Chris



Posted by: swindoom

The MIL is 50, starts English lessons soon and lives in Omsk. She visited England in October and loved it, coming back in August.

Mrs. Swindoom works in a wedding dress shop and there is no chance of any time off until the end of May. January to May the shop is extremely busy the rest of the time nothing much happens.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by swindoom
The MIL is 50, starts English lessons soon and lives in Omsk. She visited England in October and loved it, coming back in August.

Mrs. Swindoom works in a wedding dress shop and there is no chance of any time off until the end of May. January to May the shop is extremely busy the rest of the time nothing much happens.


Thanks for that Swindoom, shame about the meeting in February.....cest la vie!



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by swindoom
My wife is looking for a suitable man to meet her mother and she cannot understand why there are so many older men specifically looking for women 20 or 30 years younger. She has stated, it is not something young Russian really desire they prefer men of similar age, max 10 years older, but it does happen more often than not for financial reasons.

Personally I do not think age gap is a way of determining if a marriage will work or not, it is down to the two people involved.


Thanks for you imput Swindoom.
You are right about age gap is not a way to determine if a marriage will work or not.

Opps,your mother-in-law is a little out of the age range I am looking for,sorry I coudn't help you there.

Randy



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by southsounder253
just wondering why all the worry about age in Russia ,its the same as many countries (I have heard)age is just that doesn't stop a love relationship, if repect and values and love are shared,yes i have a young Russia friend she is comming here in July

Appearance is the first thing you pay attention when you meet somebody.
It is the same as to marry a very ugly person but with a nice heart. When you see this ugly person for the first time, you don't think either he/she is kind or intelligent.
But I want to mention, that I am talking about an age difference more than 15...20... It'd be a kind of shame for me to know that my man is of my father's age.
But that's my point of view. There are people who like old things.



Posted by: GoeastLJ

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
I haven’t written for a while.
I was dating a girl 25 years younger than me and we got on really well. But when I prepared to apply for a visa for her and her son, she got cold feet and that was the end of that. Or so I thought.
After a few days, I saw her adverting on a dating site and the site said she had a 95% success rate! I was pretty depressed and stopped writing on RMP.
After about six weeks I called her, to see how she was and she was so happy to hear from me.
Within days, she had shut her site down and we were back together again. She said I gave her so much emotional security and she had missed that very much. Although she had a lot of replies, no one made her feel as secure as she had felt, after she had read my very first letter to her (Oct 2005).
I’ve been to Siberia twice more since then (five times last year) and she is preparing to come to the UK this spring and for us to get married.
It’s got NOTHING to do with age (or financial security in my case). It’s all about how you feel together. We really do love each other.
She says she would rather have just ten or twenty years together with me, than none at all.
I cannot stress enough, how important emotional security and feeling safe is, in a relationship, for most of these women. If you offer this, then age is not a barrier. In my case, I just think I'm a lucky guy!

ps I posted our Christmas photo at the RED LION http://russianmeetingplace.com/foru...1&postcount=438


This reminiscent of my situation. I went to Ukraine to meet my then friend (age gap 12) after we had been corresponing for 3 months. We spent a week together in Yalta. We were going to meet again when she suddenly got cold feet and called the whole thing off. That was July last year, but she has been sending me sms messages since Xmas and we have been talking regularly on the phone. She keeps telling me - 'you are a very good man and I miss you'. This has put me in a bit of a dilemma - do I drop all my current prospects who I have not met but sound very promising or go back to the one who I know well (but let me down).

And I had felt exactly as you describe - depressed and I nearly packed up the whole dating business.



Posted by: sidney

Quote:
do I drop all my current prospects who I have not met but sound very promising or go back to the one who I know well

That all depends on what you're looking for. Personally I don't waste time with indecisive women. I'd suggest moving on.
Sid



Posted by: vic2012

I said I had been very lucky.
I had been out to Siberia for three visits, to see my GF (later fiancé), but on the third visit, when I went to sort out all the paperwork for the visa, I managed to pick up a virus. So, I was ill and laid up for most of the trip (I looked pretty ropey too). But I now believe that, at some time during that trip, our friendship had imperceptibly turned to love, but it just wasn't realised. Yes, we lived together, when I was there, but the L word was never used.

Seeing me ill though, brought home to her the major problem of marrying an older man. She would have to watch me age faster and become frail, whilst she was still in the prime of her life. And, I think this is when she realised that it was a just step too far.

At the airport, she finally explained how she felt and it then became clear that, we were then parting for good. I realised that, there was nothing I could do and I felt frustration, disappointment and some anger. Not towards her, but at the situation, which couldn’t be changed. There was no turning the clock back on my age.
She stood at the gate and kept waving as I went through passport control and then security. Each time I looked back, it was hard to believe that, I would never see or touch her again. And as I turned the final corner and she went out of sight, the picture of her, still waving, was etched on my memory.

Strangely enough things didn’t actually end there. We still wrote and spoke on the phone, but the future had become a no go subject. Then I got an email from Chris on RMP to ask if everything was OK. He had seen her site on Elaina’s models. And that’s when the old adage kicked in: Going from friendship to love can be so easy. But to go from love to friendship is one of the hardest tasks in the world. I knew then that I really loved her and had lost her. And so, very reluctantly, I ceased all communication. I was absolutely gutted.

But, you know, I just couldn’t help myself peeking at her site and her pictures from time to time. Her site said she had a 95% success rate.
Why do we beat ourselves up like this???

As a sort of retaliatory measure, I took some comfort in surfing Russian dating sites and building up a string of potential partners to contact. One of the women from my very first wish list, a year earlier, had, coincidently, emailed me a few months before. (I had never closed my sites down). So I emailed back and asked her out to dinner in Kiev, the following week. And as each day passed and there was no reply, I realised that all I wanted, was to hear from my Viktorija. It had been well over a month since our last contact. I tried to call her on numerous occasions, fantasizing about the outcome, but not actually doing it, because I feared rejection. And then my two brothers and sister got on my case! I was a real mess.

And so it was, a week later, that I called her one morning and woke her up. And what a surprise, she had to get up for work, but made me promise that I would call back that night.
And the rest is history

She said she missed me very much and, had wanted to call me, but felt that, her rejection of me, made that impossible.
How many couples have lost out, big time, because neither had the bottle to call the other?

Turns out that, she had received a lot of letters, but none had generated the same spark that, my first letter had. If fact most were just run-of-the-mill CVs (and, thank goodness none of these guys had any imagination). see: http://russianmeetingplace.com/foru...20&page=2&pp=15

There is a moral here. It aint over till the fat lady sings. Sometimes we don’t realise that she hasn’t sung.

So LJ, find out what the real situation is, what have you got to lose, especially if you already think you’ve lost it.
You really need to ask what she means by – I miss you.

And Sydney, If a woman breaks off a relationship. That’s pretty decisive. But if she realises she made a mistake, that doesn’t make her indecisive, it makes her human!

And Randy, I will write further on this thread, but I’ve finished arguing the pros and cons of age difference in partnerships!



Posted by: swindoom

I have an opposite story.
When I was in Omsk I went out for dinner with my then girlfriend who was 28 with her friend who was also 28 and her English boyfriend. The boyfriend was old enough to be my dad and was 26 years older than her. He was totally smitten with the young attractive Russian woman and she could do no wrong in his eyes. Unfortunately it was blindingly obvious that she was only interested in him for the financial security, she had no love interest at all. She several times broke of their "relationship" when she thought something better had come along but when they did not work out he would always take her back not questioning her behaviour. Lots of Russian people have told me that to them there is no problem with the relationship as they both get what they both get something out of the relationship. Speaking to an agency owner she told me that this situation was not uncommon.
I think this sort of thing must happen to relationships with various age gaps, just it tends to look worse when the guy is alot older.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
I said I had been very lucky.
I had been out to Siberia for three visits, to see my GF (later fiancé), but on the third visit, when I went to sort out all the paperwork for the visa, I managed to pick up a virus. So, I was ill and laid up for most of the trip (I looked pretty ropey too). But I now believe that, at some time during that trip, our friendship had imperceptibly turned to love, but it just wasn't realised. Yes, we lived together, when I was there, but the L word was never used.

Seeing me ill though, brought home to her the major problem of marrying an older man. She would have to watch me age faster and become frail, whilst she was still in the prime of her life. And, I think this is when she realised that it was a just step too far.

At the airport, she finally explained how she felt and it then became clear that, we were then parting for good. I realised that, there was nothing I could do and I felt frustration, disappointment and some anger. Not towards her, but at the situation, which couldn’t be changed. There was no turning the clock back on my age.
She stood at the gate and kept waving as I went through passport control and then security. Each time I looked back, it was hard to believe that, I would never see or touch her again. And as I turned the final corner and she went out of sight, the picture of her, still waving, was etched on my memory.

Strangely enough things didn’t actually end there. We still wrote and spoke on the phone, but the future had become a no go subject. Then I got an email from Chris on RMP to ask if everything was OK. He had seen her site on Elaina’s models. And that’s when the old adage kicked in: Going from friendship to love can be so easy. But to go from love to friendship is one of the hardest tasks in the world. I knew then that I really loved her and had lost her. And so, very reluctantly, I ceased all communication. I was absolutely gutted.

But, you know, I just couldn’t help myself peeking at her site and her pictures from time to time. Her site said she had a 95% success rate.
Why do we beat ourselves up like this???

As a sort of retaliatory measure, I took some comfort in surfing Russian dating sites and building up a string of potential partners to contact. One of the women from my very first wish list, a year earlier, had, coincidently, emailed me a few months before. (I had never closed my sites down). So I emailed back and asked her out to dinner in Kiev, the following week. And as each day passed and there was no reply, I realised that all I wanted, was to hear from my Viktorija. It had been well over a month since our last contact. I tried to call her on numerous occasions, fantasizing about the outcome, but not actually doing it, because I feared rejection. And then my two brothers and sister got on my case! I was a real mess.

And so it was, a week later, that I called her one morning and woke her up. And what a surprise, she had to get up for work, but made me promise that I would call back that night.
And the rest is history

She said she missed me very much and, had wanted to call me, but felt that, her rejection of me, made that impossible.
How many couples have lost out, big time, because neither had the bottle to call the other?

Turns out that, she had received a lot of letters, but none had generated the same spark that, my first letter had. If fact most were just run-of-the-mill CVs (and, thank goodness none of these guys had any imagination). see: http://russianmeetingplace.com/foru...20&page=2&pp=15

There is a moral here. It aint over till the fat lady sings. Sometimes we don’t realise that she hasn’t sung.

So LJ, find out what the real situation is, what have you got to lose, especially if you already think you’ve lost it.
You really need to ask what she means by – I miss you.

And Sydney, If a woman breaks off a relationship. That’s pretty decisive. But if she realises she made a mistake, that doesn’t make her indecisive, it makes her human!

And Randy, I will write further on this thread, but I’ve finished arguing the pros and cons of age difference in partnerships!


Hey Vic

Thanks for the story, of course I knew about it and was glad I could help at the time when I know you were going through hell over your break up. Believe me I had to think long and hard on whether I should tell you or not about Viktoria's profile, but I soon realised if it was me in the same position I would have wanted someone to tell me and make me aware of the situation, afterall, if you didn't know about things, you certainly could not do anything about it. You need to know in my opinion to act accordingly and take positive action.

I am glad I brought it to your attention at the time and that you were man enough to make the first move and call Viktoria, and now things sound as though they have worked out great for you two.

Lets hope Vicky is soon over here and you are both married and can start to enjoy your lives together.

BTW I hope you can make it to the RMP get together in February.

Chris



Posted by: vic2012

Yes Swindoom, you’ve brought up the real problem (which can affect any relationship involving RW). Where is the dividing line, in your head, between love and ego?

Yes she’s tall, beautiful and is great to be with, but why does she want to be with YOU. Especially after such a short time together?

Is it because she’s fallen in love with you? Or is that, she just sees you as someone to look after her and her kid/s.

I imagine that, for many men (and to some extent me too), their ego takes over and they become completely blind to reality. Walking around with this girl on their arm is all that matters.

Am I really in this same boat? That’s a difficult one.

There are many small things which she has said and done, over a long period, which, when added up, makes me feel that, this is for real. These are gestures, words of comfort and advice, worrying about you, interest in what you are doing and of course, how her voice changes and becomes mellifluous when she speaks with you. Things that she wouldn’t bother with if, she felt that, you were just a passport.

And I think that, it is all these small things you must look for, if you really want to know where you stand in any long distance relationship.

And, Chris,
Thanks again. I'm pretty sure I can make it.



Posted by: Chrismc

A great word Vic, 'mellifluous' must be the word of the day at RMP. ....Glad I could help.



Posted by: swindoom

Quote:
Originally Posted by vic2012
Yes she’s tall, beautiful and is great to be with, but why does she want to be with YOU. Especially after such a short time together?

Is it because she’s fallen in love with you? Or is that, she just sees you as someone to look after her and her kid/s.


These are important questions we all have to think about, it does not matter where she is from or the age gap and no-one can answer the questions for you. All you can do is try to think about the relationship rationally/logically, if that is actually possible.

You are right in saying that the small things she says or does speaks volumes about about how she really feels.



Posted by: firemansam

In all those TV shows, a question, as this would be thrown out of court. It is pure speculation! You are trying to guess the answer to someone else’s thoughts. This is a case-by-case matter and as such, there is no definitive answer... Judge Judy would point this out....

But I would like to say, vic has made some good points in what to look for in your ladies actions/reactions... I know that in Tyumen, I had not 1 but 3 women (being my girl, mother and daughter) all very much looking out for my safety and happiness 200% of the time I was there. It was a little stifling at times but then I just ran the "mother hen" scenario through my head and I was able to handle being dressed (or whatever) by three women....



Posted by: Puritan

Again dating a women who is 10-15 years yonger is absurd. That is immoral.



Posted by: AkMike

Gee, I don't recall any passages that say that.
Or is this your own personal version?



Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puritan
Again dating a women who is 10-15 years yonger is absurd. That is immoral.


immoral in who's opinion yours.
maybe you should examin your own morals & allow others to get on with life as they see fit.



Posted by: AkMike

Puritan
I do seem to recall one passage that says'Judge not lest ye be so judged'.
Ring a bell?



Posted by: vic2012

Absurd is a view, Puritan and you're welcome to it

But, immoral is a judgement. And who gave YOU the right to judge?

And, based on what laws, are you making your judgement?



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puritan
Again dating a women who is 10-15 years yonger is absurd. That is immoral.


Puritan,first...why do you think it is absurd and immoral, when two people love each other and want to spend their lives together?

Second..I will repeat this once more,this thread is NOT about young girls dating or marrying older men,
it is about what YOU think a RW prefer in the age of their partners.

Thank you,
Randy



Posted by: Puritan

Actually guys, this is not my original point of age gulfs. There some other kind of people believe that age is one of the most important points that keep marriages together. I got this point from those groups' statements. Here are facts of nowadays, many couples who have closest and even equal age gulfs, ofted get divorced. I met and talked with some guys in the bar which I visit on my days off, they had viwes who two years different from their ages and all of those guys are divorced. Truly brocken marriages as now I begin to analize, have nothing to do with ages but human characters.



Posted by: Chrismc

Puritan

There are many reasons why people split up get divorced etc, it is not always due to age differences. My parents have 2 years between them and have been married 52 years, another couple I know have 14 years between them and have been married nearly 50 years now,

Age gaps can be a factor, but there are so many other things that can help marriages fall apart rather than age differences. eg as you say character! communication, respect etc etc



Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puritan
Actually guys, this is not my original point of age gulfs. There some other kind of people believe that age is one of the most important points that keep marriages together. I got this point from those groups' statements. Here are facts of nowadays, many couples who have closest and even equal age gulfs, ofted get divorced. I met and talked with some guys in the bar which I visit on my days off, they had viwes who two years different from their ages and all of those guys are divorced. Truly brocken marriages as now I begin to analize, have nothing to do with ages but human characters.



at last you see the light,marriage is about 2 people & them working together to form a partenership.
others often decide certain reasons why something won't work
this pure BS,no 1 has the right to come up with such reasons simply because all relatsionships are different & will work or fail for there own reasons & not because of things like age,international,cultural differences etc.

example :i know of a long term marriage were we all said it wouldn't last.
the girl was to put it kindly as thick as they come,a true dipsy blond,guy was a very clever man who usualy didn't tolerate silly people.
they are an amazeing couple,married & still happy after 14 years,she is still as thick as a brick & still drives others to distraction,he has become a lot more tolerent & loves her to bits.
point i'm makeing is that many couples who others see as a no chance item often prove the critics & stats' wrong
anything can be overcome if your willing to work at it,all it takes is 2 willing people.



Posted by: AkMike

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puritan
Actually guys, this is not my original point of age gulfs. There some other kind of people believe that age is one of the most important points that keep marriages together. I got this point from those groups' statements. Here are facts of nowadays, many couples who have closest and even equal age gulfs, ofted get divorced. I met and talked with some guys in the bar which I visit on my days off, they had viwes who two years different from their ages and all of those guys are divorced. Truly brocken marriages as now I begin to analize, have nothing to do with ages but human characters.



Back peddleing??? You are pushing it off as someone elses statements now.

Say what you mean and mean what you say!



Posted by: ira156

Ok there is 12.5 yrs difference between my RF and myself. All of the women i have dated here over the past 11 yrs have been of a similar age difference. My Mum and Dad had 11yrs age difference and were married till they died. Having just come back from Russia i noticed a lot and i mean a LOT of couples that you would describe as having a big 10-15 yr age gap....many with children. I saw nothing different in their behaviour towards each other than i have in couples with a "normal" age difference. Two of Nats friends have husbands that are 13 and 16 years older than they are...yes they are Russian. They see nothing wrong or "immoral" in this. Nats family and friends saw me as a nice and decent guy and saw how happy Nat was with me.....age was never discussed as an issue. Its not a problem for us so why should it be for someone else.



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobjf
all it takes is 2 willing people.


Enough said! :-)



Posted by: Legal

What do I prefer in an age differance?
I prefer the individuality, good sense of humour, fundamental interests, lucidity of mind and clarity of aim. The brilliant person's individuality has not age.

Olga (RW)



Posted by: Doug in Devon

I haven't posted much here before but have read a lot of interesting and very helpful threads.
I met Olga in a forum about 10 months ago. We mainly emailed each other about where we lived and what we did/were doing.
Olga was planning to come over in the summer to a language school so I would send her links for schools, train fares etc. We were just trying to be long distance friends really. I was just trying to make Olga's visit to the UK as easy and enjoyable as possible. She had sent me a couple of pics but I couldn't be sure how old she looked. One of my female collegues at work thought maybe 29-31. But I was still thinking and so was Olga, that we could be good friends.
Anyhow, Olga booked a months English course in August and I said I would meet her at Heathrow and take her to Bournemouth where she was staying.
So I'm waiting at arrivals and Olga walks out. I immediately think she's much younger than 30! Olga was 21. But then we had always said we hoped to be good friends, so not a problem.
We talked a lot in the car and it was interesting to hear Olga's take on things as we headed for Bournemouth, such as caravans and bikes on cars etc.
.....Okay maybe I should put all this in another thread.
The result of Olga's visit was that long before she went home we had grown very close.
I was uncomfortable with our age gap but Olga said that it didn't bother her so why should it bother me. And I had to admit that I have not judged others, if two people are happy then who am I?
But I still thought long and hard about it. In the end though, love won out and we fell in love.
Currently Olga's going to try to get a tourist visa for April.
Any advice re the visa would be gratefully received.
And for the purpose of this thread the reason why I started writing...
Olga is now 22 and I'm 46.
I'm amazed by how much we have in common and how easy Olga is to talk to.
What can I say, we're in love



Posted by: sidney

We're happy for you and wish you the best.
Sid



Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug in Devon
I haven't posted much here before but have read a lot of interesting and very helpful threads.
I met Olga in a forum about 10 months ago. We mainly emailed each other about where we lived and what we did/were doing.
Olga was planning to come over in the summer to a language school so I would send her links for schools, train fares etc. We were just trying to be long distance friends really. I was just trying to make Olga's visit to the UK as easy and enjoyable as possible. She had sent me a couple of pics but I couldn't be sure how old she looked. One of my female collegues at work thought maybe 29-31. But I was still thinking and so was Olga, that we could be good friends.
Anyhow, Olga booked a months English course in August and I said I would meet her at Heathrow and take her to Bournemouth where she was staying.
So I'm waiting at arrivals and Olga walks out. I immediately think she's much younger than 30! Olga was 21. But then we had always said we hoped to be good friends, so not a problem.
We talked a lot in the car and it was interesting to hear Olga's take on things as we headed for Bournemouth, such as caravans and bikes on cars etc.
.....Okay maybe I should put all this in another thread.
The result of Olga's visit was that long before she went home we had grown very close.
I was uncomfortable with our age gap but Olga said that it didn't bother her so why should it bother me. And I had to admit that I have not judged others, if two people are happy then who am I?
But I still thought long and hard about it. In the end though, love won out and we fell in love.
Currently Olga's going to try to get a tourist visa for April.
Any advice re the visa would be gratefully received.
And for the purpose of this thread the reason why I started writing...
Olga is now 22 and I'm 46.
I'm amazed by how much we have in common and how easy Olga is to talk to.
What can I say, we're in love


hi doug.
mate i'm sure you have read enough on the forum about age differences & in reality it should only concern you & olga,you will get flack from people but if you 2 happy with eachother there are no problems that you can't work through together.
your going in with your eyes open,concentrate on your relatsionship not what others think
congrats on finding love,a rare commodity that bridges all if there are 2 willing people



Posted by: Doug in Devon

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobjf
hi doug.
mate i'm sure you have read enough on the forum about age differences & in reality it should only concern you & olga,you will get flack from people but if you 2 happy with eachother there are no problems that you can't work through together.
your going in with your eyes open,concentrate on your relatsionship not what others think
congrats on finding love,a rare commodity that bridges all if there are 2 willing people


Thanks for the support we appreciate it

I've read some of the stereotyoical comments.
I'm supposed to be fat, boring and unable to get a partner.
And yet I've got many female friends, I just didn't want to get involved with any of them. Oh and I'm not fat
And if Olga just wanted to live abroad, she has plenty of friends and relations in other parts of the planet without having to live with me.

But your right Bob, if Olga and I are happy then nothing else matters



Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug in Devon
Thanks for the support we appreciate it

I've read some of the stereotyoical comments.
I'm supposed to be fat, boring and unable to get a partner.
And yet I've got many female friends, I just didn't want to get involved with any of them. Oh and I'm not fat
And if Olga just wanted to live abroad, she has plenty of friends and relations in other parts of the planet without having to live with me.

But your right Bob, if Olga and I are happy then nothing else matters


no prob mate.
just remember to work at makeing work & keep it working,it takes willing people to make a partenership.
cheers



Posted by: Doug in Devon

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobjf
no prob mate.
just remember to work at makeing work & keep it working,it takes willing people to make a partenership.
cheers


we both have the same outlook on life and share many of the same interests.

And I'd like to say that although I haven't contributed much to RMP thus far, this forum has been a great source of information and encouragement.



Posted by: markgm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug in Devon
Thanks for the support we appreciate it

I've read some of the stereotyoical comments.
I'm supposed to be fat, boring and unable to get a partner.
And yet I've got many female friends, I just didn't want to get involved with any of them. Oh and I'm not fat
And if Olga just wanted to live abroad, she has plenty of friends and relations in other parts of the planet without having to live with me.

But your right Bob, if Olga and I are happy then nothing else matters


Doug i too frown on the stereotypical comments i see sometimes. I too have many female friends but as you I did not want to get involved with any of them. It took a very nice and charming lady from the otherside of the world to win my heart.
The main thing mate if your happy together than thats all that matters in the long run.



Posted by: Turboguy

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobjf
no prob mate.
just remember to work at makeing work & keep it working,it takes willing people to make a partenership.
cheers


It is funny but I was reading a topic about needing to work at a relationship the other day on an "American" forum. The general feelings among the American women there was that if you have to work at a relationship you should just end the relationship.

I have always belived that in anything in life, the more you put into it, the more you will get out of it without even trying. No wonder so many of us want to look abroad to find our woman.

With my fiancee, do you know what I really like the most. It is not that she is young, beautiful, smart or sexy, it is that she works at our relationship. She treats me like I am important to her, she watches over me and takes care of me, she works hard to make sure I am happy, she treats me like I am special, she thinks of what I want as well as what she wants. I too work hard to make her happy and to make our relationship work and it is the best relationship I have been in in my life.



Posted by: weather-7

As a lady, I should say we women normally prefer men who older us for some years.
When I was 17 I wanted a boyfriend at the age of 25 or at least not older than 27. When I was 20 I had a boyfriend who was 3 years younger and he was o.k. Though I worried a little bit about the age difference. When I was 25 a man who was 34 tried to court me but I found him too old for me(but maybe I just didn't like him). Now I'm 27 and though I still like men younger then me, but for the serious relationship I'd like someone older or at least the same age as myself.
For comparison: my friend has a husband 12 years older than she, and they have plenty of misunderstanding. First I thought it's because of the age difference but now I have another opinion.
So the age difference is not an issue, the main thing is your attitude to each other.
There is a quote from one of the russian movie:
"Women love, when they are loved". That is the only thing you, men, should know about the women.



Posted by: nflcolts

Quote:
Originally Posted by weather-7
There is a quote from one of the russian movie:
"Women love, when they are loved". That is the only thing you, men, should know about the women.


What a concept, I like it!!!



Posted by: youlek

men should look for wives, much younger, so they (wives) would be able to change husband's nappies when they are not able to do it



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by youlek
men should look for wives, much younger, so they (wives) would be able to change husband's nappies when they are not able to do it


Not all men look for younger wives,I am looking for an older lady.
Not a lot older,but if one comes along that is the same age or a little younger I would think about it.

I do not want to have any more children or raise someone else's so that leves me looking for one a little older.

Randy



Posted by: Spakoyna

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Not all men look for younger wives,I am looking for an older lady.
Not a lot older,but if one comes along that is the same age or a little younger I would think about it.

I do not want to have any more children or raise someone else's so that leves me looking for one a little older.

Randy


I forget! How old are you now Randy? I think if you make it clear you won't have a problem with the fact you don't want children...as long as your not robbing the cradle! ;-) The downside I see is you seem to like "boy toys"! As a rule,The older a woman gets..the less tolerant she will be of these things! I think more especially from the FSU! My wife is a fraidy cat...probably the only thing that creates what little friction we have. My poor Changga(Boat) hasn't seen but 25hrs of use in almost 3 years and the Vette only 1000 miles! She still jumps in fright when a truck is merging onto the hiway in the next lane. Sure wish I could figure out how to get her to relax....maybe we need to become Omish?



Posted by: ira156

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
I forget! How old are you now Randy? I think if you make it clear you won't have a problem with the fact you don't want children...as long as your not robbing the cradle! ;-) The downside I see is you seem to like "boy toys"! As a rule,The older a woman gets..the less tolerant she will be of these things! I think more especially from the FSU! My wife is a fraidy cat...probably the only thing that creates what little friction we have. My poor Changga(Boat) hasn't seen but 25hrs of use in almost 3 years and the Vette only 1000 miles! She still jumps in fright when a truck is merging onto the hiway in the next lane. Sure wish I could figure out how to get her to relax....maybe we need to become Omish?

Mate take her to Moscow for a week long driving tour of the city sites....she will go back to the US and feel safe as a bug in a rug.



Posted by: Spakoyna

Quote:
Originally Posted by ira156
Mate take her to Moscow for a week long driving tour of the city sites....she will go back to the US and feel safe as a bug in a rug.


LOL! We spent 2 months in Moscow together! Her answer is: "All my life I rode in a bus or on the metro,etc. Didn't sit in the front and see anything!" She has absolutely no depth perception...I believe this is learned through life.We can be 2 easy stopping distances away from something that pulls out in front of us and she freaks! She has become a little better...but have a long way to go before she can enjoy a cruise in the country with the top down in the vette.

I learned the hard way about depth perception letting her drive the boat. She only knows on and off! She was driving into a cove wide open with a downed skier in front of us. I said slow down! SLOW DOWN! I had to jump across the boat and pull the throttle back or she would have cruised right over him! Yeap...she were upset with me!



Posted by: ira156

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
LOL! We spent 2 months in Moscow together! Her answer is: "All my life I rode in a bus or on the metro,etc. Didn't sit in the front and see anything!" She has absolutely no depth perception...I believe this is learned through life.We can be 2 easy stopping distances away from something that pulls out in front of us and she freaks! She has become a little better...but have a long way to go before she can enjoy a cruise in the country with the top down in the vette.

I learned the hard way about depth perception letting her drive the boat. She only knows on and off! She was driving into a cove wide open with a downed skier in front of us. I said slow down! SLOW DOWN! I had to jump across the boat and pull the throttle back or she would have cruised right over him! Yeap...she were upset with me!

Mate i found Moscow Taxis about the scariest thrill rides on earth...LOL. I have had similar comments from Nat regarding teaching her to drive. It amazes me how these women have such guts and determination in their day to day lives in FSU....yet something like driving lessons scares the crap out of them??????



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
I forget! How old are you now Randy? I think if you make it clear you won't have a problem with the fact you don't want children...as long as your not robbing the cradle! ;-) The downside I see is you seem to like "boy toys"! As a rule,The older a woman gets..the less tolerant she will be of these things! I think more especially from the FSU! My wife is a fraidy cat...probably the only thing that creates what little friction we have. My poor Changga(Boat) hasn't seen but 25hrs of use in almost 3 years and the Vette only 1000 miles! She still jumps in fright when a truck is merging onto the hiway in the next lane. Sure wish I could figure out how to get her to relax....maybe we need to become Omish?


Hey Spakoyna,in about an hour I will be 39 years old.
LOL...I try to tell them I don't want children,many young ones still write and I have to try to explaine that I don't want any so it will not work out no matter how great or beautiful they are.

OHHH yes the toys...I think I could be in a little trouble there.I always make sure that it is the next thing after the no children that I talk about and let them know that the car and racing is part of the package.
Sorry to hear you are not getting much use from your toys,but since I'm still single..why not send them up to me and I will take care of them for you...LOL

Randy



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by ira156
Mate i found Moscow Taxis about the scariest thrill rides on earth...LOL. I have had similar comments from Nat regarding teaching her to drive. It amazes me how these women have such guts and determination in their day to day lives in FSU....yet something like driving lessons scares the crap out of them??????


I think any taxi in the FSU is a scary ride and I like speed....

Randy



Posted by: Spakoyna

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Sorry to hear you are not getting much use from your toys,but since I'm still single..why not send them up to me and I will take care of them for you...LOL

Randy


LOL! If the price is write I'll head em you way! I R hoping this summer will be better! Ya know she is fine in the boat if she has a Russkie friend along...wonder why she isn't with just moi? She drives like a bat outta hell when she is in control...She'll run close to 80 with the trim down...thank GOD she doesn't know about the trim button! I won't push it all the way with it trimmed up!

Still tryin ta get her to learn the written driving test so I can teach her to drive....Oh do I dread that day. I see many worries ahead!



Posted by: Spakoyna

Quote:
Originally Posted by ira156
Mate i found Moscow Taxis about the scariest thrill rides on earth...LOL. I have had similar comments from Nat regarding teaching her to drive. It amazes me how these women have such guts and determination in their day to day lives in FSU....yet something like driving lessons scares the crap out of them??????


Yeah...They are crazy...but most times there is too much traffic ta get you panties in a wad! The only time I was scared was when we took a ride from a pirate taxi in her town in winter...solid ice everywhere. Not my idea of comfort crusing along at 100kmh+ on solid ice! Only time I saw her worried in the back seat!



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
LOL! If the price is write I'll head em you way! I R hoping this summer will be better! Ya know she is fine in the boat if she has a Russkie friend along...wonder why she isn't with just moi? She drives like a bat outta hell when she is in control...She'll run close to 80 with the trim down...thank GOD she doesn't know about the trim button! I won't push it all the way with it trimmed up!

Still tryin ta get her to learn the written driving test so I can teach her to drive....Oh do I dread that day. I see many worries ahead!


I hope you do get more use out of them this summer.
When and if she gets her licence let me know so I can make sure I am in Russia at the time...LOL
I think it would be good for her to get them,if you don't have gray hair now you will after.

Randy



Posted by: Spakoyna

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
I hope you do get more use out of them this summer.
When and if she gets her licence let me know so I can make sure I am in Russia at the time...LOL
I think it would be good for her to get them,if you don't have gray hair now you will after.

Randy


My colors good! I just wonder if I would have any hair left!



Posted by: mistermopar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
My colors good! I just wonder if I would have any hair left!


LMAO....hair piece for Christmas could be on your list.

Randy



Posted by: bobjf

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Originally Posted by Turboguy
It is funny but I was reading a topic about needing to work at a relationship the other day on an "American" forum. The general feelings among the American women there was that if you have to work at a relationship you should just end the relationship.

I have always belived that in anything in life, the more you put into it, the more you will get out of it without even trying. No wonder so many of us want to look abroad to find our woman.

With my fiancee, do you know what I really like the most. It is not that she is young, beautiful, smart or sexy, it is that she works at our relationship. She treats me like I am important to her, she watches over me and takes care of me, she works hard to make sure I am happy, she treats me like I am special, she thinks of what I want as well as what she wants. I too work hard to make her happy and to make our relationship work and it is the best relationship I have been in in my life.


hi turbo
yes your right,it takes 2 to tango & if 1 is not putting in the effort then you have a problem.
natasha & i just celebrated our 4th wedding anniverssary & work at our relatsionship everyday.
i'm extremly happy to say that effort has been totaly worth it.
a marriage requires 2 people who are willing to work at makeing it work.



Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Hey Spakoyna,in about an hour I will be 39 years old.
LOL...I try to tell them I don't want children,many young ones still write and I have to try to explaine that I don't want any so it will not work out no matter how great or beautiful they are.

OHHH yes the toys...I think I could be in a little trouble there.I always make sure that it is the next thing after the no children that I talk about and let them know that the car and racing is part of the package.
Sorry to hear you are not getting much use from your toys,but since I'm still single..why not send them up to me and I will take care of them for you...LOL

Randy


you can dream mate lol
remember poor mark.happy drag racer & mad fisherman.
helmut hung up permantently. race car sold,hasn't wet a line in yonks & nat hell bent on populateing the house
all done for love of his life.




Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
LOL! If the price is write I'll head em you way! I R hoping this summer will be better! Ya know she is fine in the boat if she has a Russkie friend along...wonder why she isn't with just moi? She drives like a bat outta hell when she is in control...She'll run close to 80 with the trim down...thank GOD she doesn't know about the trim button! I won't push it all the way with it trimmed up!

Still tryin ta get her to learn the written driving test so I can teach her to drive....Oh do I dread that day. I see many worries ahead!


nat doesn't wish to learn to drive & openly admits to being worried by outside traffic & is petrafied of going through tunnels but plus side is she loves watching drag raceing & has no compunction about putting the hammer down driveing the boat,loves the v8 throb at high revs lol
boat & fishing expenses are never a problem hehehe love that girl



Posted by: Turboguy

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobjf
hi turbo
yes your right,it takes 2 to tango & if 1 is not putting in the effort then you have a problem.
natasha & i just celebrated our 4th wedding anniverssary & work at our relatsionship everyday.
i'm extremly happy to say that effort has been totaly worth it.
a marriage requires 2 people who are willing to work at makeing it work.


I sometimes think that in American culture when one is working at a relationship it is like they are a giving person. It seems to create the reaction that when one is a giving person the other becomes a taker and that creates a very unhealthy relationship with one giver and one taker. When both are working at it then you have two givers and a happy marriage that both are working at.



Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboguy
I sometimes think that in American culture when one is working at a relationship it is like they are a giving person. It seems to create the reaction that when one is a giving person the other becomes a taker and that creates a very unhealthy relationship with one giver and one taker. When both are working at it then you have two givers and a happy marriage that both are working at.


not just american
my first marriage (23years /22.9 to long) was give/ take relatsionship,in the end the giver got sick of giveing & very seldom receiving.
2 givers make for 2 happy receivers & a happy marriage that works for both of our benifits.
cheers



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobjf

2 givers make for 2 happy receivers & a happy marriage that works for both of our benifits.
cheers


Dead right Bob.



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermopar
Not all men look for younger wives,I am looking for an older lady.
Not a lot older,but if one comes along that is the same age or a little younger I would think about it.

I do not want to have any more children or raise someone else's so that leves me looking for one a little older.

Randy


YOU MAKE ME PROUD OF YOU. AT LEAST I SEE THE FIRST FOREIGN MEN, WHO IS NOT LOKING FOR A OLD-MAN-SITTER.
HE-HE-HE
I know it is not your fault, men. It is Russian women who spoiled you. when a 18yo girl is ready to marry 70yo hanging suit



Posted by: Spakoyna

Quote:
Originally Posted by youlek
YOU MAKE ME PROUD OF YOU. AT LEAST I SEE THE FIRST FOREIGN MEN, WHO IS NOT LOKING FOR A OLD-MAN-SITTER.
HE-HE-HE
I know it is not your fault, men. It is Russian women who spoiled you. when a 18yo girl is ready to marry 70yo hanging suit


Make that the 2nd! My wife is less than 2 years younger than me.

I also wanted someone closer to my age. I also agree most women 15 or more years younger than their husbands have other motives rather than a good,healthy relationship! My wife and I keep witnessing it time and time again.



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spakoyna
Make that the 2nd! My wife is less than 2 years younger than me.

I also wanted someone closer to my age. I also agree most women 15 or more years younger than their husbands have other motives rather than a good,healthy relationship! My wife and I keep witnessing it time and time again.


it is great. wish you happiness. make your love stronger each day




Posted by: freebird

Just curious, for those of you who have 15+ years diff, do you get alot of nasty/cynical/impolite comments?



Posted by: sidney

Quote:
Just curious, for those of you who have 15+ years diff, do you get alot of nasty/cynical/impolite comments?

Not at all and my wife even looks younger then her age. About once a year someone will mistake her for my daughter. I'll correct them and jokingly reprimand her for looking like a teenager. The last time the guy's wife started on him about keeping his mouth shut. So we have some fun with this when it happens.
Sid



Posted by: Turboguy

I probably have the second largest age difference that I have seen on the forums and the only place I ever get any comments is on the forums.

In real life our 38 year difference never gets a look or a comment at all. No one seems to stare, be cynical or make any impolite comments. No one so far as even accidentally asked if she was my daughter although I did get that a lot way back with one of my American GF's who was 25 years younger.

Truthfully I don't think either one of us even thinks about the age difference.



Posted by: youlek

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboguy
In real life our 38 year difference never gets a look or a comment at all.

Is it true??!!!
wow, being 26 I must marry 64 yo man... terrible. My grandfather is after 60.
I even can't imagine me with my grandfather...
I know a woman, whose husband is 30 years older. once they came to a bar, a man came to him and asked to dance with his daughter. ha-ha-ha



Posted by: Turboguy

Why do you say "you must". No one is forcing you Youlek. Actually we are all free to decide what is right for us. I agree you would not be happy with a 64 year old man and that you should marry a young boy that you would be on a mental and emotional level with.

Just out of curiosity would I be correct in guessing that you are the same person who used to post on another forum as "Only I"



Posted by: bobjf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboguy
Why do you say "you must". No one is forcing you Youlek. Actually we are all free to decide what is right f