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Originally Posted by inlove
For a long term relationship/marriage, both younger and older women generally prefer partners close to their own age. For the most part, the age difference up to 10 years is considered the most acceptable. Exceptions do happen, of course, but that's what they are.. exceptions.
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J/K
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Originally Posted by inlove
For a long term relationship/marriage, both younger and older women generally prefer partners close to their own age. For the most part, the age difference up to 10 years is considered the most acceptable. Exceptions do happen, of course, but that's what they are.. exceptions.
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Thanks Dave and Jerico for your imput.
Bing,hows it going in sunny Ufa?? With you living in Russia you see first hand everything that gos on there. It is a big help to us not (yet) living there. 10 years age gap seems to be the average so far,as it is in most cultures. I would like to know where all the people are that have said and are saying that young RW go for the old men,I know they are out there and would like to hear their side. Randy ![]() |
It's still not easy street, but we aren't exactly struggling either. Teaching is pretty good too - I'm actually teaching the boss's daughter in my Upper-Intermediate group, so I guess that's a pretty nice vote of confidence... or a spy in my midst lol
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Hi Jerico,why do you think so many young girls are writing older men..(not that you are old) but 18 year old girls writing 40 year old men?
Are they the ones looking for a way out of the FSU,or are they maybe scammers looking for a quick $$ from what they are hoping to be desperate old men. Randy |
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Originally Posted by Manchester
I agree with that. Nobody wants to marry a Grandad unless she is mercenary and wants his ranch in Texas!
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and has done for over 52 years now .......funny how things change
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Originally Posted by Chrismc
My dad who is now 73 said he could never envisage sleeping with an old granny! now he does so every night
and has done for over 52 years now .......funny how things change ![]() |
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Originally Posted by bingism
Hey Randy,
All good here - had its ups and downs but seems to be on track now! Got a 20% pay rise recently and Zhanna is in the third month of her new job, so financially things are a little easier It's still not easy street, but we aren't exactly struggling either. Teaching is pretty good too - I'm actually teaching the boss's daughter in my Upper-Intermediate group, so I guess that's a pretty nice vote of confidence... or a spy in my midst lolI'm definitely seeing things from a number of different angles now that I'm living here and the biggest thing is that there is a huge amount of BS and misconception that flies around internet, especially about how poor and destitute everyone is. Contrary to popular belief, there's not so many people desperate to leave the Motherland! At some point in the future, I intend to write my tome about "Teaching in Russia" plus "Myths vs. Reality"... just a problem finding the time to do it justice ![]() So, how're your plans coming along? |
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I will PM you the rest later.
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Originally Posted by cedarwind
I think most of them are looking or $$$ and a way out. I am 33 and I did not have any women under 24 write to me.....Maybe I should wait untill I turn 40....I will have bettter luck. LOL
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Originally Posted by youlek
as for me I don't understand marriages in which grandfathers marry granddaughters
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Originally Posted by RRR
Oh no... You again? ... j/k! :-P
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Hi Youlek,thank you for your information.
This thread is talking about what people think young and old RW prefer in the age of their partner. I see that you have already talked about grandfathers marrying granddaughters in another thread,maybe we could keep it in the other thread. Thank you Randy ![]() |
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Originally Posted by youlek
oki, I'll follow the thread. I wouldn't like to marry a man, being the age of my father
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Originally Posted by vic2012
Given the complete freedom of choice, a RW would go for a clever, hunky, family loving guy about three of four years older than her. But fortunately for us older farts, life for those girls, aint that simple.
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We spend inordinate amounts of time here, discussing and worrying about scammers. But for one minute, just imagine what a minefield it is, for most of these girls. So, the long and short of the matter is: Write a sincere and genuinely warm introductory letter. She wants to feel safe and emotionally secure (especially if she has a kid). And AGE WILL NOT THEN, BE A MAJOR FACTOR |
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Originally Posted by youlek
go to "age difference" thread, all men are trying to assure me that when grandfathers marry granddaughters, it is only love
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Originally Posted by I/O
That is about the most accurate and informed comment I have seen anywhere on any forum on this subject.
Very well said Sir, I bow to one who can summarise it in a few words. |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Ok,so you would like to marry a man the is near your own age,that is good.
Do most young women in Russia also like to marry men near their own age? Randy ![]() |
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Originally Posted by youlek
I prefer a little bit older men. But not very old. It is not true that Russian women are crazy about old men. If you check statistics of Russian marriages, onnly 10% of women marry men, who are much older. But it is up to everybody.
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Thank you Youlek for the information.
How much older of a man would be ok for you? Where can I find the ststistics of Russian marriages? Thanks Randy |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Thank you Chrismc for a great post.
I wish you the best on your up coming trip and hope you have a great time. Randy ![]() |
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Originally Posted by youlek
Why do you want to know what age would be ok for me? he-he
as for your second question .... qui cherche -trouve |
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Originally Posted by vic2012
Randy
I seem to remember RBS (was that his monica), who created a lot of trouble on this site a year ago, came up with some UN statistics, which showed that Russia had a similar marriage pattern to the US. There was no higher number of large age difference marriages to anywhere else. However, there was a larger age gap in Russian women marrying Johnny foreigner. |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
It is just a question...it is good to find out about the people that use this site.
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Originally Posted by swindoom
My wife is looking for a suitable man to meet her mother and she cannot understand why there are so many older men specifically looking for women 20 or 30 years younger. She has stated, it is not something young Russian really desire they prefer men of similar age, max 10 years older, but it does happen more often than not for financial reasons.
Personally I do not think age gap is a way of determining if a marriage will work or not, it is down to the two people involved. |
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Originally Posted by swindoom
The MIL is 50, starts English lessons soon and lives in Omsk. She visited England in October and loved it, coming back in August.
Mrs. Swindoom works in a wedding dress shop and there is no chance of any time off until the end of May. January to May the shop is extremely busy the rest of the time nothing much happens. |
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Originally Posted by swindoom
My wife is looking for a suitable man to meet her mother and she cannot understand why there are so many older men specifically looking for women 20 or 30 years younger. She has stated, it is not something young Russian really desire they prefer men of similar age, max 10 years older, but it does happen more often than not for financial reasons.
Personally I do not think age gap is a way of determining if a marriage will work or not, it is down to the two people involved. |
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Originally Posted by southsounder253
just wondering why all the worry about age in Russia ,its the same as many countries (I have heard)age is just that doesn't stop a love relationship, if repect and values and love are shared,yes i have a young Russia friend she is comming here in July
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Originally Posted by vic2012
I haven’t written for a while.
I was dating a girl 25 years younger than me and we got on really well. But when I prepared to apply for a visa for her and her son, she got cold feet and that was the end of that. Or so I thought. After a few days, I saw her adverting on a dating site and the site said she had a 95% success rate! I was pretty depressed and stopped writing on RMP. After about six weeks I called her, to see how she was and she was so happy to hear from me. Within days, she had shut her site down and we were back together again. She said I gave her so much emotional security and she had missed that very much. Although she had a lot of replies, no one made her feel as secure as she had felt, after she had read my very first letter to her (Oct 2005). I’ve been to Siberia twice more since then (five times last year) and she is preparing to come to the UK this spring and for us to get married. It’s got NOTHING to do with age (or financial security in my case). It’s all about how you feel together. We really do love each other. She says she would rather have just ten or twenty years together with me, than none at all. I cannot stress enough, how important emotional security and feeling safe is, in a relationship, for most of these women. If you offer this, then age is not a barrier. In my case, I just think I'm a lucky guy! ps I posted our Christmas photo at the RED LION http://russianmeetingplace.com/foru...1&postcount=438 |
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Originally Posted by vic2012
I said I had been very lucky.
I had been out to Siberia for three visits, to see my GF (later fiancé), but on the third visit, when I went to sort out all the paperwork for the visa, I managed to pick up a virus. So, I was ill and laid up for most of the trip (I looked pretty ropey too). But I now believe that, at some time during that trip, our friendship had imperceptibly turned to love, but it just wasn't realised. Yes, we lived together, when I was there, but the L word was never used. Seeing me ill though, brought home to her the major problem of marrying an older man. She would have to watch me age faster and become frail, whilst she was still in the prime of her life. And, I think this is when she realised that it was a just step too far. At the airport, she finally explained how she felt and it then became clear that, we were then parting for good. I realised that, there was nothing I could do and I felt frustration, disappointment and some anger. Not towards her, but at the situation, which couldn’t be changed. There was no turning the clock back on my age. She stood at the gate and kept waving as I went through passport control and then security. Each time I looked back, it was hard to believe that, I would never see or touch her again. And as I turned the final corner and she went out of sight, the picture of her, still waving, was etched on my memory. Strangely enough things didn’t actually end there. We still wrote and spoke on the phone, but the future had become a no go subject. Then I got an email from Chris on RMP to ask if everything was OK. He had seen her site on Elaina’s models. And that’s when the old adage kicked in: Going from friendship to love can be so easy. But to go from love to friendship is one of the hardest tasks in the world. I knew then that I really loved her and had lost her. And so, very reluctantly, I ceased all communication. I was absolutely gutted. But, you know, I just couldn’t help myself peeking at her site and her pictures from time to time. Her site said she had a 95% success rate. Why do we beat ourselves up like this??? As a sort of retaliatory measure, I took some comfort in surfing Russian dating sites and building up a string of potential partners to contact. One of the women from my very first wish list, a year earlier, had, coincidently, emailed me a few months before. (I had never closed my sites down). So I emailed back and asked her out to dinner in Kiev, the following week. And as each day passed and there was no reply, I realised that all I wanted, was to hear from my Viktorija. It had been well over a month since our last contact. I tried to call her on numerous occasions, fantasizing about the outcome, but not actually doing it, because I feared rejection. And then my two brothers and sister got on my case! I was a real mess. And so it was, a week later, that I called her one morning and woke her up. And what a surprise, she had to get up for work, but made me promise that I would call back that night. And the rest is history She said she missed me very much and, had wanted to call me, but felt that, her rejection of me, made that impossible. How many couples have lost out, big time, because neither had the bottle to call the other? Turns out that, she had received a lot of letters, but none had generated the same spark that, my first letter had. If fact most were just run-of-the-mill CVs (and, thank goodness none of these guys had any imagination). see: http://russianmeetingplace.com/foru...20&page=2&pp=15 There is a moral here. It aint over till the fat lady sings. Sometimes we don’t realise that she hasn’t sung. So LJ, find out what the real situation is, what have you got to lose, especially if you already think you’ve lost it. You really need to ask what she means by – I miss you. And Sydney, If a woman breaks off a relationship. That’s pretty decisive. But if she realises she made a mistake, that doesn’t make her indecisive, it makes her human! And Randy, I will write further on this thread, but I’ve finished arguing the pros and cons of age difference in partnerships! |
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Originally Posted by vic2012
Yes she’s tall, beautiful and is great to be with, but why does she want to be with YOU. Especially after such a short time together?
Is it because she’s fallen in love with you? Or is that, she just sees you as someone to look after her and her kid/s. |

I know that in Tyumen, I had not 1 but 3 women (being my girl, mother and daughter) all very much looking out for my safety and happiness 200% of the time I was there. It was a little stifling at times but then I just ran the "mother hen" scenario through my head and I was able to handle being dressed (or whatever) by three women....
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Originally Posted by Puritan
Again dating a women who is 10-15 years yonger is absurd. That is immoral.
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Originally Posted by Puritan
Again dating a women who is 10-15 years yonger is absurd. That is immoral.
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Originally Posted by Puritan
Actually guys, this is not my original point of age gulfs. There some other kind of people believe that age is one of the most important points that keep marriages together. I got this point from those groups' statements. Here are facts of nowadays, many couples who have closest and even equal age gulfs, ofted get divorced. I met and talked with some guys in the bar which I visit on my days off, they had viwes who two years different from their ages and all of those guys are divorced. Truly brocken marriages as now I begin to analize, have nothing to do with ages but human characters.
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Originally Posted by Puritan
Actually guys, this is not my original point of age gulfs. There some other kind of people believe that age is one of the most important points that keep marriages together. I got this point from those groups' statements. Here are facts of nowadays, many couples who have closest and even equal age gulfs, ofted get divorced. I met and talked with some guys in the bar which I visit on my days off, they had viwes who two years different from their ages and all of those guys are divorced. Truly brocken marriages as now I begin to analize, have nothing to do with ages but human characters.
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Originally Posted by bobjf
all it takes is 2 willing people.
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Originally Posted by Doug in Devon
I haven't posted much here before but have read a lot of interesting and very helpful threads.
I met Olga in a forum about 10 months ago. We mainly emailed each other about where we lived and what we did/were doing. Olga was planning to come over in the summer to a language school so I would send her links for schools, train fares etc. We were just trying to be long distance friends really. I was just trying to make Olga's visit to the UK as easy and enjoyable as possible. She had sent me a couple of pics but I couldn't be sure how old she looked. One of my female collegues at work thought maybe 29-31. But I was still thinking and so was Olga, that we could be good friends. Anyhow, Olga booked a months English course in August and I said I would meet her at Heathrow and take her to Bournemouth where she was staying. So I'm waiting at arrivals and Olga walks out. I immediately think she's much younger than 30! Olga was 21. But then we had always said we hoped to be good friends, so not a problem. We talked a lot in the car and it was interesting to hear Olga's take on things as we headed for Bournemouth, such as caravans and bikes on cars etc. .....Okay maybe I should put all this in another thread. The result of Olga's visit was that long before she went home we had grown very close. I was uncomfortable with our age gap but Olga said that it didn't bother her so why should it bother me. And I had to admit that I have not judged others, if two people are happy then who am I? But I still thought long and hard about it. In the end though, love won out and we fell in love. Currently Olga's going to try to get a tourist visa for April. Any advice re the visa would be gratefully received. And for the purpose of this thread the reason why I started writing... Olga is now 22 and I'm 46. I'm amazed by how much we have in common and how easy Olga is to talk to. What can I say, we're in love |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi doug.
mate i'm sure you have read enough on the forum about age differences & in reality it should only concern you & olga,you will get flack from people but if you 2 happy with eachother there are no problems that you can't work through together. your going in with your eyes open,concentrate on your relatsionship not what others think congrats on finding love,a rare commodity that bridges all if there are 2 willing people |


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Originally Posted by Doug in Devon
Thanks for the support we appreciate it
![]() I've read some of the stereotyoical comments. I'm supposed to be fat, boring and unable to get a partner. And yet I've got many female friends, I just didn't want to get involved with any of them. Oh and I'm not fat ![]() And if Olga just wanted to live abroad, she has plenty of friends and relations in other parts of the planet without having to live with me. But your right Bob, if Olga and I are happy then nothing else matters |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
no prob mate.
just remember to work at makeing work & keep it working,it takes willing people to make a partenership. cheers |
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Originally Posted by Doug in Devon
Thanks for the support we appreciate it
![]() I've read some of the stereotyoical comments. I'm supposed to be fat, boring and unable to get a partner. And yet I've got many female friends, I just didn't want to get involved with any of them. Oh and I'm not fat ![]() And if Olga just wanted to live abroad, she has plenty of friends and relations in other parts of the planet without having to live with me. But your right Bob, if Olga and I are happy then nothing else matters |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
no prob mate.
just remember to work at makeing work & keep it working,it takes willing people to make a partenership. cheers |
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Originally Posted by weather-7
There is a quote from one of the russian movie:
"Women love, when they are loved". That is the only thing you, men, should know about the women. |
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Originally Posted by youlek
men should look for wives, much younger, so they (wives) would be able to change husband's nappies when they are not able to do it
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Not all men look for younger wives,I am looking for an older lady.
Not a lot older,but if one comes along that is the same age or a little younger I would think about it. I do not want to have any more children or raise someone else's so that leves me looking for one a little older. Randy ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
I forget! How old are you now Randy? I think if you make it clear you won't have a problem with the fact you don't want children...as long as your not robbing the cradle! ;-) The downside I see is you seem to like "boy toys"! As a rule,The older a woman gets..the less tolerant she will be of these things! I think more especially from the FSU! My wife is a fraidy cat...probably the only thing that creates what little friction we have. My poor Changga(Boat) hasn't seen but 25hrs of use in almost 3 years and the Vette only 1000 miles! She still jumps in fright when a truck is merging onto the hiway in the next lane. Sure wish I could figure out how to get her to relax....maybe we need to become Omish?
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Originally Posted by ira156
Mate take her to Moscow for a week long driving tour of the city sites....she will go back to the US and feel safe as a bug in a rug.
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She was driving into a cove wide open with a downed skier in front of us. I said slow down! SLOW DOWN! I had to jump across the boat and pull the throttle back or she would have cruised right over him! Yeap...she were upset with me!
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
LOL! We spent 2 months in Moscow together! Her answer is: "All my life I rode in a bus or on the metro,etc. Didn't sit in the front and see anything!" She has absolutely no depth perception...I believe this is learned through life.We can be 2 easy stopping distances away from something that pulls out in front of us and she freaks! She has become a little better...but have a long way to go before she can enjoy a cruise in the country with the top down in the vette.
I learned the hard way about depth perception letting her drive the boat. She only knows on and off! She was driving into a cove wide open with a downed skier in front of us. I said slow down! SLOW DOWN! I had to jump across the boat and pull the throttle back or she would have cruised right over him! Yeap...she were upset with me! |
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
I forget! How old are you now Randy? I think if you make it clear you won't have a problem with the fact you don't want children...as long as your not robbing the cradle! ;-) The downside I see is you seem to like "boy toys"! As a rule,The older a woman gets..the less tolerant she will be of these things! I think more especially from the FSU! My wife is a fraidy cat...probably the only thing that creates what little friction we have. My poor Changga(Boat) hasn't seen but 25hrs of use in almost 3 years and the Vette only 1000 miles! She still jumps in fright when a truck is merging onto the hiway in the next lane. Sure wish I could figure out how to get her to relax....maybe we need to become Omish?
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Originally Posted by ira156
Mate i found Moscow Taxis about the scariest thrill rides on earth...LOL. I have had similar comments from Nat regarding teaching her to drive. It amazes me how these women have such guts and determination in their day to day lives in FSU....yet something like driving lessons scares the crap out of them??????
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Sorry to hear you are not getting much use from your toys,but since I'm still single..why not send them up to me and I will take care of them for you...LOL
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I R hoping this summer will be better! Ya know she is fine in the boat if she has a Russkie friend along...wonder why she isn't with just moi? She drives like a bat outta hell when she is in control...She'll run close to 80 with the trim down...thank GOD she doesn't know about the trim button! I won't push it all the way with it trimmed up!|
Originally Posted by ira156
Mate i found Moscow Taxis about the scariest thrill rides on earth...LOL. I have had similar comments from Nat regarding teaching her to drive. It amazes me how these women have such guts and determination in their day to day lives in FSU....yet something like driving lessons scares the crap out of them??????
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The only time I was scared was when we took a ride from a pirate taxi in her town in winter...solid ice everywhere. Not my idea of comfort crusing along at 100kmh+ on solid ice! Only time I saw her worried in the back seat!
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
LOL! If the price is write I'll head em you way!
I R hoping this summer will be better! Ya know she is fine in the boat if she has a Russkie friend along...wonder why she isn't with just moi? She drives like a bat outta hell when she is in control...She'll run close to 80 with the trim down...thank GOD she doesn't know about the trim button! I won't push it all the way with it trimmed up!Still tryin ta get her to learn the written driving test so I can teach her to drive....Oh do I dread that day. I see many worries ahead! |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
I hope you do get more use out of them this summer.
When and if she gets her licence let me know so I can make sure I am in Russia at the time...LOL I think it would be good for her to get them,if you don't have gray hair now you will after. Randy ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
My colors good! I just wonder if I would have any hair left!
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Originally Posted by Turboguy
It is funny but I was reading a topic about needing to work at a relationship the other day on an "American" forum. The general feelings among the American women there was that if you have to work at a relationship you should just end the relationship.
I have always belived that in anything in life, the more you put into it, the more you will get out of it without even trying. No wonder so many of us want to look abroad to find our woman. With my fiancee, do you know what I really like the most. It is not that she is young, beautiful, smart or sexy, it is that she works at our relationship. She treats me like I am important to her, she watches over me and takes care of me, she works hard to make sure I am happy, she treats me like I am special, she thinks of what I want as well as what she wants. I too work hard to make her happy and to make our relationship work and it is the best relationship I have been in in my life. |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Hey Spakoyna,in about an hour I will be 39 years old.
LOL...I try to tell them I don't want children,many young ones still write and I have to try to explaine that I don't want any so it will not work out no matter how great or beautiful they are. OHHH yes the toys...I think I could be in a little trouble there.I always make sure that it is the next thing after the no children that I talk about and let them know that the car and racing is part of the package. Sorry to hear you are not getting much use from your toys,but since I'm still single..why not send them up to me and I will take care of them for you...LOL Randy ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
LOL! If the price is write I'll head em you way!
I R hoping this summer will be better! Ya know she is fine in the boat if she has a Russkie friend along...wonder why she isn't with just moi? She drives like a bat outta hell when she is in control...She'll run close to 80 with the trim down...thank GOD she doesn't know about the trim button! I won't push it all the way with it trimmed up!Still tryin ta get her to learn the written driving test so I can teach her to drive....Oh do I dread that day. I see many worries ahead! |
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Originally Posted by bobjf
hi turbo
yes your right,it takes 2 to tango & if 1 is not putting in the effort then you have a problem. natasha & i just celebrated our 4th wedding anniverssary & work at our relatsionship everyday. i'm extremly happy to say that effort has been totaly worth it. a marriage requires 2 people who are willing to work at makeing it work. |
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Originally Posted by Turboguy
I sometimes think that in American culture when one is working at a relationship it is like they are a giving person. It seems to create the reaction that when one is a giving person the other becomes a taker and that creates a very unhealthy relationship with one giver and one taker. When both are working at it then you have two givers and a happy marriage that both are working at.
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Originally Posted by bobjf
2 givers make for 2 happy receivers & a happy marriage that works for both of our benifits. cheers |
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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Not all men look for younger wives,I am looking for an older lady.
Not a lot older,but if one comes along that is the same age or a little younger I would think about it. I do not want to have any more children or raise someone else's so that leves me looking for one a little older. Randy ![]() |
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Originally Posted by youlek
YOU MAKE ME PROUD OF YOU. AT LEAST I SEE THE FIRST FOREIGN MEN, WHO IS NOT LOKING FOR A OLD-MAN-SITTER.
HE-HE-HE I know it is not your fault, men. It is Russian women who spoiled you. when a 18yo girl is ready to marry 70yo hanging suit |
My wife is less than 2 years younger than me. 
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Originally Posted by Spakoyna
Make that the 2nd!
My wife is less than 2 years younger than me. ![]() I also wanted someone closer to my age. I also agree most women 15 or more years younger than their husbands have other motives rather than a good,healthy relationship! My wife and I keep witnessing it time and time again. |
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Originally Posted by Turboguy
In real life our 38 year difference never gets a look or a comment at all.
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Originally Posted by Turboguy
Why do you say "you must". No one is forcing you Youlek. Actually we are all free to decide what is right f |