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What do you really want ?
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Posted by: Georges

Hello to all,

I have met a russian woman by internet. She was staying in Sevastopol.
The ususal phone calls, etc... etc .. then I decided to go there, to meet her.

I knew at the second that she didn't like me as a potential "close relationship" but maybe as a person.

We have been discussing a long time and we have been to places where people from western countries come to choose girls like if they wanted to buy cows or pieces of meat, without any pudor, neither least gentlemen behaviour.

She has scammed a guy who complained everywhere but this mother****er has put a video recorder to make a film when they had sex, without telling her. This guy not only deserved to be scammed but he deserved to go to jail.
Is this the way to treat a woman he was expecting to have as a wife ?

I think that these guys deserve to be scammed because the life over there is quite hard and these girls and women are trying anything to get out of their difficulties. One may as well think that these girls would prefer to have a nice job than doing that kind of crap.

As well, some guys can see some really beautifull women of certain sites and what do they think ? They are going to buy themselves some sexual objects or what ?

I wanted to make her a present and I sent her tickets to come to visit Paris, even on a friendly relationship, not sex. She didn't come.

I have yet lost some money in the story but this is not important.

So, before putting the fault on these girls, make an introspection, see what you are REALLY LOOKING FOR and if you are looking for a "legalized prostitute", good for you if you got ripped off.
If you are looking for a real spouse (I don't write "wife" intentionnally), ready to sherish her and respect her, get over there, dive into the Russian way of life for a while and then, maybe you will find a real loving woman ready tio love you and respect you if you love her and respect her.

Posted by: youlek

have you seen that film?
Maybe there is no any film.
Or maybe he felt that she was a scammer and it was a kind of revenge

Posted by: Georges

Hello Youlek,

No, I didn't see the film but I have been corresponding long enough with him and even talked to him on the phone to really know he is capable of this. Its a matter of "feeling", if you know what I mean.
Anyway, even if there is no film, even thinking of it is enough significant.
I don't mean by this that I am a perfect man, not at all, but there are things to do in life and things one should not do. Anyway, if this guy is childish enought to think about this, she didn't loose much and this is good for him, it makes him an experience. We just have to hope this experience was learning him something but, unfortunately, I don't think so.
There is a russian proverb I like very much wich tells : "The best part is not the one you can grab, its the one you can eat". :-))

Best regards
Georges

Posted by: gonlaz

So, is there a link to this film? LOL, okay I will go take my place in the line to hell now, heh

Posted by: Georges

Gonlaz... pfff...

If you google "diana pirojnikova", you will see her.
Only pictures, sorry...

Posted by: gonlaz

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Originally Posted by Georges

Gonlaz... pfff...

If you google "diana pirojnikova", you will see her.
Only pictures, sorry...

haha, dude I was totally not serious. I agree that's pretty tasteless to do; post such a thing

Posted by: gonlaz

I would just add this, the guy doesn't "deserve" to be scammed, since he was scammed PRIOR to the releasing of the video you mentioned.

I will be totally honest though unlike plenty of people who scam, and stuff: part of me thinks it's hilarious and that SHE deserves what she gets and another part of me thinks she shouldn't be put out there on the internet. I am not one for filming such things, tacky. If it were me that did do that though, it would be a quiet victory. However, you have to admit, she puts herself out there like a piece of meat, so does she deserve to be treated as one?? Just going by what you wrote that is, people are not meat, objects.

Disclaimer: I don't use people and never would do such a thing to a girl, but I'd be damned sure to keep any evidence like that to myself, as mentioned above; a quiet victory; money can always be re-earned.

Posted by: Georges

Hi Dude,

I just had your message, I'll be back in about 1/2 hour, its 10:50 PM here.

Cheers

Posted by: Georges

Hi Gonlaz,

Well, its maybe hard for you to imagine what is going over there.
She was a nurse at the naval hospital and she was earning 20$ a MONTH. I'm not "getting at you" but 20 bucks is what you may spend for a lunch.
I don't think she had a very big choice. When I see a beggar, I alway think he would certainly prefer to be on the beach, having massages, having a house.
I have myself been living in a fridge box in the street when I was 15 and my mother never took care of me. I was as well in NY (this is why I speak so good english) and I saw her just time to time (she was so "busy") and I was 11.
I was getting money by helping a man at the NY world's fair (it was in 65) selling ice-creams and in the evening, I was selling newspapers on Broadway.
This gave me a great tolerance gap towards the ones in the need and I really understood her.
BTW, he didn't put the video on the net, he just told me he made a tape.

I am mixed of french and spanish and born in Morocco. An old arab man told me a proverb :

"If you are a man of goodwill, sit by the river. You will soon see the passing in the flow the corpse of the one wich offended you".

I was young, so I replied : "Sure, big deal ! How much time would I have to wait, then ?" with a sarcastic tone.

He stared at me and replied :

"It's not sufficient to wait. You must deliver yourself of waiting, then, "the thing" falls as fast as thunder".

That was a good lesson.

BTW : I didn't want to give you a lesson, I wouldn't be that arrogant, I just wanted to share it with you.

Take care

Georges

Posted by: rk288

Seems to me now the "Russian Bride" scene has become overcrowded with scammers...all out for the game...money is the issue. Beautiful women all over the world love money. Some will do almost anything to get it...

End game...shakhmatye...magoo ya pomogayu vam? Ya tak ne dumayu...

RK

Posted by: Jerico

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She was a nurse at the naval hospital and she was earning 20$ a MONTH. I'm not "getting at you" but 20 bucks is what you may spend for a lunch.

Just because she doesn`t make a lot of money doesn`t give her the right to scam foriegn guys for money.
So she is poor, So what, like its the foreigners of the world that make her life so hard.Give me a break and by scamming guys she is now known as a scammer which could make it more difficult to come to the USA or where ever.

I Googled her name and she was on more than a few black list. Good

I simply dont by the excuse "shes poor what else can she do answer".
I will tell you what she can do.
Try imigrating or moving somewhere else that pays more money, how about that.
Maybe learn new job skills, theres an idea!

Shes poor, Heh.
Thats the same crap i hear about all the illegals coming to the USA ( there poor in there country, what else can they do?)
For starters instead of complaining about US policy on immigration how about trying to change your own corrupt governments policys? Theres an idea.

Sorry to come off topic a little bit but everybody has an excuse these days for there bad habits and I for one am sick of it.
Jerry

Posted by: rk288

I seriously doubt the $20 PER MONTH...probably more like $200...my soon to be ex-wife knocked down about $400 per month in Ukraine. She worked hard for it and she worked hard on me to get over here but then the "greed" end of it got to be too much to bear...all for me an my family...nothing for you and your son...total 180 degrees after she arrived here...

Daring scam...lots of money...

RK

Posted by: Jerico

Well rk288,
That sucks she scammed you. i know it pisses you off and the time you wasted on this woman. I could only imagine.

Well i guess I am lucky then. However, when my girl ( now my wife) first arrived here I had some HUGE issues that we worked out.Huge!!!!
Now things seem to be great but I guess time will tell.

Well dont let the one stop you from meeting another. It just takes time and more money unfortunately.
Jerry

Posted by: rk288

Hey Jerry...

No, I am not mad...I have no regrets and no conscience about anything...it was a wonderful thing. I met 2 beautiful women in wonderland over 2 years. The most interesting thing I ever did in my life...

I just think now the game is being overplayed. Too many scammers...too dificult to weed them out in the internet scene...

I think now you need to own property over there and visit monthly offering no commitment then see what happens...maybe learn to play guitar and sing in Russian at a coffee shop or something while you are remodelling your apartments...

RK

Posted by: gonlaz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Georges

BTW : I didn't want to give you a lesson, I wouldn't be that arrogant, I just wanted to share it with you.

Take care

Georges

Oh yes, I understand dude - it's cool. I was simply trying to contribute with my thoughts. I don't know anyting about what's up over there.

Have a good one

Posted by: Ms.Smarty Pants

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Originally Posted by rk288

...maybe learn to play guitar ...

RK

Do you mean about night serenades under balcony of loved woman like in Spain?

Posted by: Georges

To Jerry and Gonlaz :

You wrote :

"Oh yes, I understand dude - it's cool. I was simply trying to contribute with my thoughts. I don't know anyting about what's up over there".

So, good for you, just keep away from it !

To Jerry :

I understand your point of wiew but I cannot fully agree.

You seem to judge people, just like these judges in court, sitting on a chair at a higher level, on a stage, so high that even been sittnig on a chair, you are higher than the accused one wich is standing on its feet.
Lucky you are, apparently, but don't you think you should by times go a little bit down from your pedestal ?

This is the key of the whole story : its like a production, decorum, things are arranged but the judge changes his pants the same way as the accused one.

Its like what I wrote to Gonlaz : I am not "getting at you", wich right would I have to do so ? I am just tring to explain how I feel things, not pretending I've got the "holly truth".

It would maybe be a good experience for you if you could be submerged into real poverty for a very little while, the poverty wich doesn't allow you to buy food or medication to your children and see them die (I don't man I WISH this, okay ?), then maybe, you could understand better or at least, be a bit more indulggent (lenient ?).

You are obviously a honnest man, and I really mean it. Now, you seem as well a bit "stiff" and I understand your concern about the people going to the states.

You wrote :

"Thats the same crap I hear about all the illegals coming to the USA (there poor in there country, what else can they do?)
For starters instead of complaining about US policy on immigration how about trying to change your own corrupt governments policys? Theres an idea."

Yeah, if they only could...

Most of the time, these countries like Mexico, Paraguay, Chile, Peru, etc... are just "tied-up" by the US fruit companies, mines or petroleum ones, wich are most of the time accomplice with the US Government. We also have this in France, with the African countries, organising corruption over there in order to have the leaders we want.

I never said I AGREE with the scammers, I said I understand, wich is quite a different issue.

Most of the girls one can see on theses sites are extremely beautifull, enough to be models. These guys go over there thinking they are going to bring back an obedient beautifull girl wich they can impress with a little but of money.
And they get "catched".

Too bad, for both sides.