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I JUST CAUGHT HER AND SHE DOESNT KNOW

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Posted by: royalpalace774

Hi everyone , remember me. IS SHE GENUINE OR A PRO? PLEASE TELL ME. Yes its me again. I want to tell you all about what I just found out about my 33 year old from Kherson, Ukraine.

As you all know , I thought something was fishy about her story to me. So a few weeks ago I created a new profile and used a picture of somebody else and joined the dating service that I found her on.

I sent her a letter as a man that lives in Atlanta, Georgia. I made this man to be 37 years old and his picture is very nice. And he is an accountant that has never been married. And I wrote that she was very pretty and I can't believe that she has not found anyone yet. I asked her about a few things that I know her dating service could not know . I did this so I could be sure it was truly her that was answering me and not her agency writing the letter to make money. Well today I am glad to inform all of you that this morning I opened up my email as the fake guy from Atlanta and I received a letter from her. This is what she wrote to my fake friend that I invented.

Hello Tommy! Thank you for your letter and for your compliments. The fact that I am here on this site says that I have not found my soul mate in Ukraine, and it is hard for me to find the right partner here. I have been living on Cyprus for a long time. It is the island in the Mediterranean Sea. I worked there in an Indian restaurant. I lived with a man. It was a civil marriage. But our relationships did not work out. So I came back to Kherson. I joined this service. I also want to tell you that I have been to the USA by fianc? visa. He did not want to have children in a new marriage, so I came back to Ukraine in 1,5 months. I was not good for some time, and then I met a man here. But he used drugs. So now I am here looking for my partner abroad. I do want to have nice relationships with my future husband and want to have children with him. I think I am mature enough to create my own family. I know what I want from my life. I think that your age is very good and you have no children. So it is time for you to start serious relationships. What are you looking in your future life partner? How long do you plan to have correspondence with me before visiting me here in Ukraine? I will be looking forward to your letter! Have a nice day! Very sincerely, Oksana.


So I now know that the girl I talked with for 7 months and visited is a scammer. I am so mad at myself for not creating this fake guy sooner. Remember, when I came back from Odessa after being with her. I sent her money and she said she had a tumor and she said she was in bad shape.

So my friends, I have enough tokens to write her a few more fake letters. So I will bait her even more and then I will turn her in to the 2 dating agencies she belongs to. I would really love to hear some comments from all of you. I have to say that I feel so much better knowing that she is 100 per cent scammer. But I do have to admit that I still feel used and abused for what she did to me. Please let me know what you think.



Posted by: chippie

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Hi everyone , remember me. IS SHE GENUINE OR A PRO? PLEASE TELL ME. Yes its me again. I want to tell you all about what I just found out about my 33 year old from Kherson, Ukraine.

As you all know , I thought something was fishy about her story to me. So a few weeks ago I created a new profile and used a picture of somebody else and joined the dating service that I found her on.

I sent her a letter as a man that lives in Atlanta, Georgia. I made this man to be 37 years old and his picture is very nice. And he is an accountant that has never been married. And I wrote that she was very pretty and I can't believe that she has not found anyone yet. I asked her about a few things that I know her dating service could not know . I did this so I could be sure it was truly her that was answering me and not her agency writing the letter to make money. Well today I am glad to inform all of you that this morning I opened up my email as the fake guy from Atlanta and I received a letter from her. This is what she wrote to my fake friend that I invented.

Hello Tommy! Thank you for your letter and for your compliments. The fact that I am here on this site says that I have not found my soul mate in Ukraine, and it is hard for me to find the right partner here. I have been living on Cyprus for a long time. It is the island in the Mediterranean Sea. I worked there in an Indian restaurant. I lived with a man. It was a civil marriage. But our relationships did not work out. So I came back to Kherson. I joined this service. I also want to tell you that I have been to the USA by fianc? visa. He did not want to have children in a new marriage, so I came back to Ukraine in 1,5 months. I was not good for some time, and then I met a man here. But he used drugs. So now I am here looking for my partner abroad. I do want to have nice relationships with my future husband and want to have children with him. I think I am mature enough to create my own family. I know what I want from my life. I think that your age is very good and you have no children. So it is time for you to start serious relationships. What are you looking in your future life partner? How long do you plan to have correspondence with me before visiting me here in Ukraine? I will be looking forward to your letter! Have a nice day! Very sincerely, Oksana.


So I now know that the girl I talked with for 7 months and visited is a scammer. I am so mad at myself for not creating this fake guy sooner. Remember, when I came back from Odessa after being with her. I sent her money and she said she had a tumor and she said she was in bad shape.

So my friends, I have enough tokens to write her a few more fake letters. So I will bait her even more and then I will turn her in to the 2 dating agencies she belongs to. I would really love to hear some comments from all of you. I have to say that I feel so much better knowing that she is 100 per cent scammer. But I do have to admit that I still feel used and abused for what she did to me. Please let me know what you think.


Good job royalpalace0774!!

Good learning experience

Good luck in the continued hunt!

chippie



Posted by: TribalLord

I was going to suggest a fake profile or having a friend write to her but you already handled the situation.



Posted by: clark

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Hi everyone , remember me. IS SHE GENUINE OR A PRO? PLEASE TELL ME. Yes its me again. I want to tell you all about what I just found out about my 33 year old from Kherson, Ukraine.

As you all know , I thought something was fishy about her story to me. So a few weeks ago I created a new profile and used a picture of somebody else and joined the dating service that I found her on.

I sent her a letter as a man that lives in Atlanta, Georgia. I made this man to be 37 years old and his picture is very nice. And he is an accountant that has never been married. And I wrote that she was very pretty and I can't believe that she has not found anyone yet. I asked her about a few things that I know her dating service could not know . I did this so I could be sure it was truly her that was answering me and not her agency writing the letter to make money. Well today I am glad to inform all of you that this morning I opened up my email as the fake guy from Atlanta and I received a letter from her. This is what she wrote to my fake friend that I invented.

Hello Tommy! Thank you for your letter and for your compliments. The fact that I am here on this site says that I have not found my soul mate in Ukraine, and it is hard for me to find the right partner here. I have been living on Cyprus for a long time. It is the island in the Mediterranean Sea. I worked there in an Indian restaurant. I lived with a man. It was a civil marriage. But our relationships did not work out. So I came back to Kherson. I joined this service. I also want to tell you that I have been to the USA by fianc? visa. He did not want to have children in a new marriage, so I came back to Ukraine in 1,5 months. I was not good for some time, and then I met a man here. But he used drugs. So now I am here looking for my partner abroad. I do want to have nice relationships with my future husband and want to have children with him. I think I am mature enough to create my own family. I know what I want from my life. I think that your age is very good and you have no children. So it is time for you to start serious relationships. What are you looking in your future life partner? How long do you plan to have correspondence with me before visiting me here in Ukraine? I will be looking forward to your letter! Have a nice day! Very sincerely, Oksana.


So I now know that the girl I talked with for 7 months and visited is a scammer. I am so mad at myself for not creating this fake guy sooner. Remember, when I came back from Odessa after being with her. I sent her money and she said she had a tumor and she said she was in bad shape.

So my friends, I have enough tokens to write her a few more fake letters. So I will bait her even more and then I will turn her in to the 2 dating agencies she belongs to. I would really love to hear some comments from all of you. I have to say that I feel so much better knowing that she is 100 per cent scammer. But I do have to admit that I still feel used and abused for what she did to me. Please let me know what you think.


What is the (YOUR) point? You suspected you were scammed or you wouldn't have posted it here for opinions of which I think most here validated. Sure, you can write her more letters and in your own mind have her fall deeper into her web of deceit but, trust me here, she doesn't care. At the end of the day you've wasted more money and more energy on not a meaningful relationship but revenge. This would make you a scammer and no better a person than her. Don't sink to that level dude. Cut those losses and get on with your life. It's not worth it. Your out a few bucks but received a priceless education. There are millions of honest women waiting for an honest man. Why give her another thought and sacrifice your own dignity? Revenge is a cancer waiting to eat us up inside.



Posted by: Chrismc

I echo what Clark has said....and I have said this so many times on here I have forgotten how many....but why waste anymore time on her, if she is a scammer, move on to pastures new, put it all behind you and learn from it, as long as you learn from this experience then it is not wasted time and effort, if you don't learn from it then you only have yourself to blame.

Move on, there are plenty more fish in sea, there will be somone out there that is just right for you, it is much much better putting your time, effort and money into a future relationship than trying to change the past ones that have left only bad memories for you.

Chris



Posted by: Ms.Smarty Pants

Quote:
Originally Posted by clark
At the end of the day you've wasted more money and more energy on not a meaningful relationship but revenge. This would make you a scammer and no better a person than her. Don't sink to that level dude. Cut those losses and get on with your life. It's not worth it. ... Revenge is a cancer waiting to eat us up inside.


It is true.



Posted by: royalpalace774

Hi everyone,
Royal here. I appreciate all the comments to my situation. But the one thing that I really think needs to be done before I get rid of this is to turn her in to the agency that she belongs to. And she is on 2 of them. I feel it is my moral duty to get her off the dating sites because she is baiting another sucker to come see her and give him the guilt trip on his 2nd day with her. She is a con artist and a theif and a liar. It is her job. I just want her to get fired from her job and not work at it anymore. So, I will give it another week or 2. Some of you will say I have a problem because I want revenge. Yes, this is true. But I also want to try and prevent her from waisting another good guys time , energy, money and hopes of the future. She is infact as the bible states "A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. She comes across so sweet and inocent. She fooled me. I just want it to stop here with me. So if you have comments, I can take whatever you throw at me.



Posted by: Pin Boy

i think if you have this much evidence on her play it a little more to get her banned from these agencies. most likely though, she'll be back at it with another agency in the near future. but you may be able to keep a few less guys from being conned. good luck.

pin boy



Posted by: clark

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Hi everyone,
Royal here. I appreciate all the comments to my situation. But the one thing that I really think needs to be done before I get rid of this is to turn her in to the agency that she belongs to. And she is on 2 of them. I feel it is my moral duty to get her off the dating sites because she is baiting another sucker to come see her and give him the guilt trip on his 2nd day with her. She is a con artist and a theif and a liar. It is her job. I just want her to get fired from her job and not work at it anymore. So, I will give it another week or 2. Some of you will say I have a problem because I want revenge. Yes, this is true. But I also want to try and prevent her from waisting another good guys time , energy, money and hopes of the future. She is infact as the bible states "A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. She comes across so sweet and inocent. She fooled me. I just want it to stop here with me. So if you have comments, I can take whatever you throw at me.


It's not a matter of throwing anything at you. We are here for a sharing of experiences and ideas. There are many other threads besides this one where the general advice is to take the lesson and move on. The fact is, you may get her banned on those 2 sites. You may even get her posted on the scammer sites but you will not stop her. You are most likely hurting and feel like you need to do "something" so that she knows what she's done. In all likelihood she knows. She just doesn't care. I quite frankly, don't give a rats patootie about her but my concern would be for you, because we are on the same team. I would hate to see you waste time, effort and more money on this when at the same time you could be moving forward in a positive direction. Good luck to you in whatever you decide.



Posted by: GoingToRussia

Do what you must RoyalPlace. I know it is a matter of closer for you and if this helps you get past the pain you are feeling then do what you must do. I wish you the best of luck in the future and Happy Holidays!



Posted by: chippie

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Hi everyone,
Royal here. I appreciate all the comments to my situation. But the one thing that I really think needs to be done before I get rid of this is to turn her in to the agency that she belongs to. And she is on 2 of them. I feel it is my moral duty to get her off the dating sites because she is baiting another sucker to come see her and give him the guilt trip on his 2nd day with her. She is a con artist and a theif and a liar. It is her job. I just want her to get fired from her job and not work at it anymore. So, I will give it another week or 2. Some of you will say I have a problem because I want revenge. Yes, this is true. But I also want to try and prevent her from waisting another good guys time , energy, money and hopes of the future. She is infact as the bible states "A WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING. She comes across so sweet and inocent. She fooled me. I just want it to stop here with me. So if you have comments, I can take whatever you throw at me.


royalpalace774,

Don't throw away the info that you have on her. If she is as bad as it appears, even if she gets banned on a couple of sites she will resurface. Keep the info to share with those that follow you so they to can profit from your situation. It's a learning experience, but the reward in the end is well worth it.

chippie



Posted by: Cheburashka

Quote:
Originally Posted by clark
I would hate to see you waste time, effort and more money on this when at the same time you could be moving forward in a positive direction. Good luck to you in whatever you decide.


I don't think I could have said it any better than this. It all comes down to how we invest our mental energy. Do what you must. Just don't get your hopes up that you will in some way lead her to repentance.

Fish gotta swim! Birds gotta fly! Scammers gotta scam!

You seem to be a good and noble man! Don't ever lose that.



Posted by: Jerico

Well I dissagree with most of the people here, Heh.
I think your on the right track.
Shes looking for another sucker so it is your duty to let other people know about this woman.
Pictures,Address, types of letters. Let all the black list know.
When they google her name it will show up there on a list.
Try to get her off the dating sites. If one guy sees her profile or picture on a ( BE warned about this girl list) and ceases to write to her it was worth it
IMHO.

Sure she will go to other sites. SO what , at the least you made her change her routine some.Make it harder for her.

I dont know if you can put her on a blacklist becasue you knowingly gave her money but theres got to be a place to put her profile.

Its not all about revenge although that comes with it
Its about letting others know to watch there backs with this girl, that is all.
You are simply informing the public about this potential problem girl.

Just inform the websites that have her profile about your story and that you may speak badly about there dating sites if they dont remove the scammers profile. Because having her profile on their site means that they just want money and dont care about the women they profile.Could be bad for their business. Show them proof about her lies,etc.

Also you might tell your story on a website or something and when someone googles her name it will show your website and they may read what happened to you and they can choose to do as they like with this girl.
Possibly if her name is anywhere on this site it may show up in a search too!!

Anyway just my opinion.
Jerry



Posted by: royalpalace774

Hi Everyone, This is a letter I sent as the accountant from Atlanta. I sent it today , so I guess I will hear back from her in a few days.

Hello Oksana, Thanks for writing back. Can you tell me a little about your family ? Do you have any brothers or sisters. What does your mother and father think of you looking for a partner on this site ? I have heard of Cyprus. I hear that it is beautiful there. I see that you have been to the U S. Where in the U S did you go to when you had a fiance visa. Oksana, I am just wondering how long you have been on this site in search of a partner? I think you are very pretty and you seem to be a very nice girl. And I agree, you don't want to be with someone who has a drug habit. You ask what I am looking for in a partner. I would like to be with a women that can be my best friend, lover and trust and respect. I want her to be a good mother to her children. I want a relationship that will last forever for me and my partner. I want us to be happy together and I guess you are on here for the same reasons. Oksana, have you ever met anyone from abroad or the U S in person since you have been on this site. If you have met anyone, what did you like or not like about the people you met. I am asking you this so when I meet you I will know what you like and what you dont like. Also, I wonder how long do you think we should talk to each other before I plan a trip to the Ukraine. I plan on coming there but I think sometime in Febuary or March seems to be a good time. What do you think ? When I come there, where is a good place to meet you. I guess I can come to your city called Kherson. I will talk to you soon.
TOMMY

So I will keep you guys posted on what she writes back to me. I know that some of you are gonna tell me to stop waisting my time. But it is my time and as you all know I will give it about 6 more days before I am done .

I have a great friend call me today furious about my smammer . He told me to email her as the accountant and ask her how things are going with her TUMOR. He then wants me to inform her that from now on she needs to watch out who she emails because I could possibly be 5 out of 10 of the guys she is trying to scam. My friend seems to think that this will make her wonder if it is me she is emailing and she will always never know what guy is for real and who is a fake. I have to say that it sounds like some fun. Imagine her always wondering if the guy she is trying to set up could possibly be me in disguise as someone else. Yes I know, let it go. But I need a few more days.



Posted by: swindoom

In my opinion I would not describe her as a scammer, a good time girl maybe, looking for western men to spend lots of money on her. She could even just be keeping her options open hoping for something better to come along.

She is certainly dishonest and untrustworthy but I would not call her a "scammer".



Posted by: Dave_N_Elvira

Royal,
Did you send the letter from the same computer you used to send her letters on? If so, a potential scammer can recognise the IP addresses as being the same. You might want to take that into consideration.



Posted by: I/O

It seems this one is more of a "Leach" than an out and out money scammer and as such is probably not that savy to the ISP thing amoung other things.

My advice is to gather all the info currently available and lodge it with a few antscam sites including the photos, which you can do. Search Jim's Lists as he is right into this sort of thing. Once the postings appear, send her the links.

Then I would let it go, because you are dancing with the devil in his/her own lare. I can't see much to be gained from that, other than a little revenge which is only giving into the temptation to get down to her level.

What do you want out of this? To publicise her to the world or to try to prove to her directly that you are smarter than she is? Too late. She out gunned the writer once. Time and again, I hear people say, "It is not the money, but it is the pricipal of the matter". 110% of the time it is the money that is the issue and the writer is never going to get that back, so it is time to close it and move on to someone worthwhile.



Posted by: firemansam

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Posted by: ira156

Quote:
Originally Posted by I/O
It seems this one is more of a "Leach" than an out and out money scammer and as such is probably not that savy to the ISP thing amoung other things.

My advice is to gather all the info currently available and lodge it with a few antscam sites including the photos, which you can do. Search Jim's Lists as he is right into this sort of thing. Once the postings appear, send her the links.

Then I would let it go, because you are dancing with the devil in his/her own lare. I can't see much to be gained from that, other than a little revenge which is only giving into the temptation to get down to her level.

What do you want out of this? To publicise her to the world or to try to prove to her directly that you are smarter than she is? Too late. She out gunned the writer once. Time and again, I hear people say, "It is not the money, but it is the pricipal of the matter". 110% of the time it is the money that is the issue and the writer is never going to get that back, so it is time to close it and move on to someone worthwhile.

Very true Mate. I cant understand the guys that get on and say "its the time i spent".....then spend the next 2 months trying to get back at them. You are just another fish in a big pond and they are ignoring what you do and are milking the next one. Get on to things that are more productive frflowr:



Posted by: royalpalace774

Hi everyone,
I just received my 2nd letter from her thinking I am the accountant from Atlanta, Georgia. Tell me what you think. She is feeling something in this 2nd letter.

Hello Tommy! Thank you for your letter! I really enjoyed it! I want to answer your questions. I live with my parents; I have a mother and a father. And also I have a younger sister, who is married, she lives with her own family. My parents know about my search and they support me in this. I have been to Washington, USA. I am here for almost a year and yes, I have met someone from abroad. I would like to meet you in person too! But I have some news, Tommy. The fact is that I am planning to stop my membership with this service, as I have some problems with my health! If you want to continue our communication you can call me. My home number is +xxxxxxxxxxxxx I hope we will be able to talk to each other. I will be looking forward to your call, Tommy! This will be my last letter through this service. I will be looking forward to your call! Please, mind the time difference! :-) Have special holidays! May all your dreams come true! Very sincerely, Oksana.



Posted by: Cheburashka

I think you should spend at least three hours a day for the next few weeks trying to set her up with emails and fake identities. I'm sure you can get her to see the error of her ways and change her life. In fact, call in sick or take a few days off work in order to focus all your time and energy on this lady that you have absolutely no intention of ever dating or seeing.


Distractions like this might cost you serious dollars in wasted time and lost productivity. But damnit...at least she'll learn a lesson. ****NOT!*****


Dude...seriously...read my lips: MOVE ON!



Posted by: royalpalace774

Thanks for the advice. It is true , you are 100% correct. I have allready sent my information to her 2 dating sites and I am just waiting for a response back. I know myself and I just want to give it a few more days to see what her agencies tell me. But I am O K . I am not in love with the scammer I am only hurt and angry. So I am sleeping well and I also dont have a 9-5 job so I do as I please during the day. And I work my own hours. But I agree, I need to stop waisting time on this low life women and be ready for the next good one.



Posted by: chippie

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Thanks for the advice. It is true , you are 100% correct. I have allready sent my information to her 2 dating sites and I am just waiting for a response back. I know myself and I just want to give it a few more days to see what her agencies tell me. But I am O K . I am not in love with the scammer I am only hurt and angry. So I am sleeping well and I also dont have a 9-5 job so I do as I please during the day. And I work my own hours. But I agree, I need to stop waisting time on this low life women and be ready for the next good one.


Glad to hear it royalpalace774. It's better to spend you time on looking for the right woman than spending anytime on the wrong one. Keep the info. so if anyone else has simillar posts you can give them info. and advice.

Good luck in your search!

chippie



Posted by: RRR

Excellent work royalpalace! I'm glad you got your evidence and reported it. I believe something should be done, and not "nothing". Agencies would also like to hear about these women who are scamming, as it is ruining their reputation. Hopefully she'll be taken off some of the larger sites, and it'll make it more difficult for her. And maybe less people will be fooled by this woman in the future. I sure do not want to end up corresponding with her.

But good to hear you're over it and can now focus on your search for a real woman!



Posted by: Cheburashka

Are you going to tell the agency that you put up a false profile? It will be hard to accuse any woman of scamming when we sort of do the same. How can we be outraged at dishonesty on a dating site we we have ourselves been dishonest?

I'm not busting your chops here RP. I just want to give everyone something to think about.



Posted by: royalpalace774

I told the 2 agency's that I posted a fake profile. I am being honest in my communication with the agency.

I also want everyone to know that I just went on the 2 sites that she was on. And to my surprise she is no where to be found on either site. On GLOBALADIES it said this lady is not available anymore. I sent my info to these agencies at 2pm my time. So that makes it 9pm in the Ukraine. Or did she remove herself. What do you guys think. I did not think that she would be removed that quick. I got an email from Globaladies asking me for a detailed report of my trip with Oksana in the Ukraine. That was at 4pm today. I sent it to her at 5pm. But I think she is in Canada or Georgia.

Anyway, I guess some people are listening to me. Or Oksana is removing herself to have things cool of. And then she will re appear in a few months. She is probably telling everyone that she is sick and needs time to be off the sites and take care of herself. This way maybe she thinks she will not have to answer to anybody .



Posted by: chippie

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
I told the 2 agency's that I posted a fake profile. I am being honest in my communication with the agency.

I also want everyone to know that I just went on the 2 sites that she was on. And to my surprise she is no where to be found on either site. I sent my info to these agencies at 2pm my time. So that makes it 9pm in the Ukraine. Or did she remove herself. What do you guys think. I did not think that she would be removed that quick. I got an email from Globaladies asking me for a detailed report of my trip with Oksana in the Ukraine. That was at 4pm today. I sent it to her at 5pm. But I think she is in Canada or Georgia.

Anyway, I guess some people are listening to me. Or Oksana is removing herself to have things cool of. And then she will re appear in a few months. She is probably telling everyone that she is sick and needs time to be off the sites and take care of herself. This way maybe she thinks she will not have to answer to anybody .


Good to hear royalpalace774,

I think that you got through to the agencies because I don't think that she would have removed it herself! With scammers it's a matter of time before it affects THEIR business. That's the only thing they understand $$$$$$$$$$$$ Good work.

Continue the search!! Good luck, chippie



Posted by: royalpalace774

Remeber Chippie she wrote back her 2nd letter to the accountant from Georgia and told him she was leaving the site because she had some health problems. She wrote:

Hello Tommy! Thank you for your letter! I really enjoyed it! I want to answer your questions. I live with my parents; I have a mother and a father. And also I have a younger sister, who is married, she lives with her own family. My parents know about my search and they support me in this. I have been to Washington, USA. I am here for almost a year and yes, I have met someone from abroad. I would like to meet you in person too! But I have some news, Tommy. The fact is that I am planning to stop my membership with this service, as I have some problems with my health! If you want to continue our communication you can call me. My home number is +xxxxxxxxxxxxx I hope we will be able to talk to each other. I will be looking forward to your call, Tommy! This will be my last letter through this service. I will be looking forward to your call! Please, mind the time difference! :-) Have special holidays! May all your dreams come true! Very sincerely, Oksana.

It looks like she removed herself before the agency could find her out. She clearly told Tommy that this will be my last letter from this service. And this is before I notified the agency about her.


What do you think ? I think she is removing herself before anyone can call her from the agency. Now she will join another agency, I am sure of that.



Posted by: Dave_N_Elvira

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
What do you think ? I think she is removing herself before anyone can call her from the agency. Now she will join another agency, I am sure of that.


Royal, did it ever occur to you she might really be sick and has taken those profiles off herself? In her second letter to the fake you she made it pretty clear that she is not well and that she will be leaving the agency in question.

Frankly speaking, the more you enthral us with this saga, the more I am inclined to think this woman took offence to you personality. From my perspective this woman is not a scammer. She is not marriage material either. She simply comes across as someone who did not like you personally. Add to that you sound like somebody who likes to flash the cash in an effort to impress others and it is obvious to see what happened. You see even though she was not interested in you romantically she wont say no to gifts and dinners and took advantage of this. Plenty of people in the FSU will do that to the tourist who likes to flash his cash. Learn from this.

What you need to do now is put it all behind. You met a woman and it didn’t turn out. Sh!t happens. The more you dwell on it the more ridiculous you look. You need to contemplate the fact you will not get any financial compensation out of this and any time you spend pursuing some sort of closure will be time wasted.



Posted by: markgm

I would tend to agree Dave. Royal the time and energy put into this could be better served looking for someone more genuine and believe me there are plenty of good genuine girls out there mate.



Posted by: swindoom

The second email to your fake id she stated she was sick, confirming what she had previously told you and she also said she would be leaving the agency which she did later. This woman is not a scammer, for whatever reason she does not like you and that is not a hanging offence.

If you took a local woman on a date, paid for the meal and a few drinks then next day she decided she did not want to see you again would that make her a scammer. You have set up a fake profile, given this woman false hope, which is what a scammer does and now you are trying to label her as the scammer. Forget about it and move on.



Posted by: I/O

All of the pontifications, investigations and proclaimations will not change one thing.

I think the woman is fairly suspect, but so what...??? She certainly doesn't care what I, you or anyone else thinks. If she is up to no good, she will continue as the author predicts and if she happens to be genuine, simply didn't like the author and basically pulled on a fight with him, then she is not so uncommon.

Pulling on an arguement is a very common way for people to put an end to something which they find hard to put an end to on logical grounds.

As another writer points out, the further this goes the more doubtful the author's grounds appear. Rather than displaying the woman as no good, it is tending to ratify her actions.

I for one at the start of this was convinced of her lack of credibility, but now I admit to having doubts about my original assesment.



Posted by: firemansam

What if the woman of your dreams is slipping away whilst you waste time playing games with a woman who does not want to be with you....

Is she a scammer? No, I don't think so.

Maybe a good time girl, but not a scammer as such. It is possible your bank account was not big enough to land this fish.

She is obviously not the lass for you.

Heal yourself and find the one that is meant for you, wherever she is located.....

You are hanging on to a grudge that will only come back to haunt you. Yes, tell the sites of your issues, but do not make this failure the focus of your life. You only get one. If this is bringing you happiness, then all the best to you mate!

Sam.



Posted by: royalpalace774

Dave if you remember in the mall. I did not flash anything or buy anything. And what is wrong with eating in a nice restaurant on your 1st night together, Also paid for with a mastercard. I had 2 mastercards on me for the whole 7 days. The only cash I had to bring with me was to pay the lanlord of the apartment in advance . That was $980.00. And I also had $150.00 in cash in my pocket.

If $150 sounds like I'm flashin cash Dave, you must think that's alot of money. Now you are makin me think that you dine at Mcdonalds and save your pennies. My first remark to her was " I've only been here one day so why should I have to buy you things today. " Did it ever occur to you she might not be sick. Why did she not tell the accountant from Georgia she was sick in her first letter.

Dave, of course she didn't like me. I did not want to give in to her in the mall on my 2nd day there. Why did it take you this long to figure that out ? I allready knew that when I left the mall. I did not buy her anything that day. As far as flashing cash . Dave I am wondering when you were with me to witness my flashing of cash. Dave you know that saying about people that assume things. Please dont try to tell me what you dont know as fact. I appreciate your comments , now Dave, you are trying to push my buttons and its obvious.


Dave, I value your opinion on somethings. But you must stop thinking you are a fly on my wall .



Posted by: royalpalace774

When I came home after my trip I told her I would send $200 to her to renew her passport. She said please send $300.00 and I sent $300.00

2 weeks later she said that she could use some money to get some juices to drink for herself. So I sent her $50.00

Now this is what they call the obvious big one.

She sends a text to me asking for $300.00 and If you want to help me you should send it today. Kiss 4 u

She tells me 3 days later she has a tumor and to never call her again and to leave her alone. And yells at me after I send her the $300.00

Tells my fake profile in her 2nd letter she is sick. Not the 1st letter.

Tells me she could not even pass a physical exam to come to the U S . But wants my fake accountant to come see her.

So how will she pass a physical to come and see him in Georgia.

And am I hearing some of you correctly. Some of you think that she now might be telling the truth and it is O K for her to request money from me and then tell me to take a hike. And think I was flashing money around.



Think about this for a second. If she can throw fits and complain on the 2nd day about gifts why cant she tell a guy on the other side of the world that I dont think we are right for each other and then hang up and be done with him. Its very easy to do that when you are on the other side of the world.

I have to say that some of you are surprising me. But we all have an opinion. And that seems to be all we have until its a proven fact.



Posted by: Dave_N_Elvira

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Why did she not tell the accountant from Georgia she was sick in her first letter.


Question you should be asking yourself is why did she tell the fake you this on the second letter. From all accounts her story has stood up. You have yet to prove otherwise despite trying.

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
Dave, of course she didn't like me. I did not want to give in to her in the mall on my 2nd day there. Why did it take you this long to figure that out ?


Actually it didn't take me long. I was one of the few here who felt she wasn't a scammer initially and as we delve more into the story it is becoming more plain for others to see this is the case. She’s a good time girl as many here like to label them.



Posted by: Dave_N_Elvira

Quote:
Originally Posted by royalpalace774
When I came home after my trip I told her I would send $200 to her to renew her passport. She said please send $300.00 and I sent $300.00

2 weeks later she said that she could use some money to get some juices to drink for herself. So I sent her $50.00

Now this is what they call the obvious big one.

She sends a text to me asking for $300.00 and If you want to help me you should send it today. Kiss 4 u

She tells me 3 days later she has a tumor and to never call her again and to leave her alone. And yells at me after I send her the $300.00

Tells my fake profile in her 2nd letter she is sick. Not the 1st letter.

Tells me she could not even pass a physical exam to come to the U S . But wants my fake accountant to come see her.

So how will she pass a physical to come and see him in Georgia.

And am I hearing some of you correctly. Some of you think that she now might be telling the truth and it is O K for her to request money from me and then tell me to take a hike. And think I was flashing money around.

Think about this for a second. If she can throw fits and complain on the 2nd day about gifts why cant she tell a guy on the other side of the world that I dont think we are right for each other and then hang up and be done with him. Its very easy to do that when you are on the other side of the world.

I have to say that some of you are surprising me. But we all have an opinion. And that seems to be all we have until its a proven fact.


Fact is you went over to meet this woman. Fact is it was obvious things were not going to work out between these two on that trip. Fact is you continued to pursue a relationship with her when you returned, sending her money and gifts, even though the relationship was doomed. Its time to move on.

I think your problem is you are like a dog with a bone. You just couldnt give up on this relationship even when it was plain for you to see it wasnt going to work. Why else would you be sending money after witnessing first hand her behaviour. Even now you cant let it rest and insist on getting some payback on her. You need to let it go and get on with your life. Sadly though you seem to be the sort of person that needs to get burnt to realise you dont play with fire. I hope I am wrong about that. Anyway I have finished with this topic. You have been given plenty of constructive advice from many experienced people here and I hope you take heed of the advice given you. Do what you must and best of luck for the future.

Rgds
Dave



Posted by: firemansam

I can't believe I am quoting myself......
For whatever reason...
Quote:
Originally Posted by firemansam
She is obviously not the lass for you.


Move on, find the RIGHT GIRL!

Wherever she may be......



Posted by: I/O

Quote:
I had 2 mastercards on me for the whole 7 days.
Be it credit card, cash, travellers cheques, whatever. Flashing cash is a generic term that covers any means of payment in excessive proportions.

Quote:
Tells my fake profile
Who is trying to take the high moral ground here....????

Quote:
I sent $300.00 {snip} So I sent her $50.00 {snip} of course she didn't like me
Continues to send money when he claims he knows she doesn't like him?

So whats is the game here? The author was still trying to win the woman's affection so he can pay out on her by dumping her to exact some revenge or what?

Mate...!! Some blunt and direct advice. You came onto this thread with some credibility and a reasonable case to state. As the thread has gone along, you have basically lost most people's sympathy and have begun to make yourself look plain dumb...!! Of course that wasn't your intention, but that is what you have achieved.

2 losses here and 1 when visiting the lady. The song said 2 out of 3 ain't bad. You did better, you have scored a sraight 3.

Give it up.



Posted by: markgm

Ok everyone this thread has run its course everyone has had there say thats enough before it gets to far out of hand.

!!Shake hands and make up or thread will be locked!!
And you will be warned




Posted by: Cheburashka

Mark, I think this thread HAS run it's course already. He wanted advice. He got it from everyone here in the forum. He can now make the choice to continue to ignore the advice or start doing things differently. And I can't see that there is anything else to say that won't be construed as a personal attack.

royalpalace774 we wish you all the best in this situation. May wisdom guide your future steps with this lady.

I'm going to lock her down. If Khashyar wants to reopen it, I welcome him to do so if it will serve the greater good of this forum.



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