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Originally Posted by mistermopar
Good stuff Scotch,very good for the beginner.
I like the way you have it set up with the fast and slow speed. I will be checking back to it to see more as you add to it. Now if only you could put a photo of the two ladies that go with the voices..LOL Randy |
but when you can start to pick out the individual words it's like a curtain has been lifted.
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Originally Posted by scotch
Randy Im putting up some more advanced / complex phrases tonight .. that's where all the magic begins because at first it sounds like Japanese
but when you can start to pick out the individual words it's like a curtain has been lifted.PS. Randy there are some little photos of the girls on the 'about us' page (through the menu at the top-right of the screen). Please ignore the bottom photo! |
but when you can start to pick out the individual words it's like a curtain has been lifted.
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Originally Posted by chippie
Scotch,
I enjoy the lessons. I'm not putting pressure on you, but I fly to Belarus on January 1st, and am trying to absorb as much as possible. What's next with the lessons??? |
Apparently they party like crazy for New year in FSU! I think it's bigger than Dec 25 for them, and they give gifts and all that sort of stuff, instead of at Christmas.).|
Originally Posted by GoingToRussia
Great idea Scotch!!! Are those women from Sochi?
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but I met her in Anapa, just north of Sochi. 
and watch that beautiful big sunset. Sweet! Apparently they party like crazy for New year in FSU! I think it's bigger than Dec 25 for them, and they give gifts and all that sort of stuff, instead of at Christmas.). 
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Originally Posted by chippie
Also in your lesson about numbers, could go into high numbers?? I go to Belarus, and there are 2,050 belarussian rubles to the dollar. If it's $20 then the numbers get high. Thanks.
Appreciate your efforts! Chippie |
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Originally Posted by scotch
Hi Chippie,
I am going to start planning the next lesson tonight, and will do a special section for Belarus money. However, I don't know how they say their prices. For example, do they say "it costs 200,000 roubles" or "200" . . . or maybe even "200 kiloroubles" Perhaps you can please tell me how they talk about such big quantities? If you buy a jacket that costs $500, do they say "that'll be a million roubles thanks"!? scotch. |
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Originally Posted by ElenaK
Good job, scotch! What made you to do this? One time I was really interested in methods of teaching Russian as a second language. Nothing serious, just for my friends
Probably, you already know that in Russian all words change their endings, suffixes, and some time even basis (root) of words, depending of their tens, plural forms and so on. Have you studied this already? If so, you should notice that it is very difficult to understand and what is even worse remember all variety of combinations. I am asking you about it because I searched for the different techniques that I would use to make a training process much easier. And I could not find anything worthy. Can you share your leaning experience with us……me? Thank you in advance, Elena |
] It's like eating green vegetables when you're a child. It's good for you but the process is a bit painful you really need to use this software in conjunction with a grammar book to get the most out of it.|
Originally Posted by scotch
When I (and the girls!) start teaching a few grammar rules in the later lessons I'll try to explain them in a language that makes it very simple. |
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Originally Posted by scotch
Hi Elena,
[that's my favourite Russian name! ]Sorry for the delay with my response but I've been away for a few days. I started this listen2russian.com project because I had great difficultly understanding Russians when I was over there recently, despite intensive study of the language for 6 months before I left. The guides to pronunciation that you find in books, or the 'perfect' pronunciation that you hear on the CDs of many audio courses, isn't quite the same that you would hear on the streets of Russia. So I asked my Russian friends to make me some recordings to train my 'Russian ear', and I thought I might as well help other people in the process. Spent a few weeks learning how to make a website and to edit and filter sound recordings and then, ..voila! And yes, I've studied a fair bit of Russian grammar, but I don't like it very much It's like eating green vegetables when you're a child. It's good for you but the process is a bit painful I've deliberately avoided teaching grammar in the early lessons on the website because I know many people will lose interest very quickly. Instead I will introduce grammar very slowly, once people are comfy with the basic sounds and structure of Russian phrases. Apart from my gigantic Oxford Russian dictionary (it's thicker than my leg!) and a bunch of miscellaneous "teach yourself Russian" books, I have a very popular book called the "New Penguin Russian Course" that I use as a reference for grammar. Personally I'm not as crazy about this book as many others (see the reviews on Amazon), as I find the lessons quite dry and boring, and I believe that an essential part of teaching is to make learning a fun and interesting experience. But it's a handy book to have as a reference. And I agree, it's very hard to remember what suffix's to attach to words when you're actually speaking! It's a multitasking process that my brain can't get around just yet. I think the secret is to simply practice a single grammar rule again and again until it becomes second nature (i.e., you don't have to think about it, you just do it). In that regard, the Rosetta Stone software is quite useful as it's all about repeating things over and over again. The downside is that they don't explain the grammar rules to the student, so they assume all students are pretty intelligent you really need to use this software in conjunction with a grammar book to get the most out of it.When I (and the girls!) start teaching a few grammar rules in the later lessons I'll try to explain them in a language that makes it very simple. Personally, if I see complicated explanations for grammar it puts me to sleep, and I assume it has the same effect on other people too And it's very interesting to me that you want to teach Russian .. perhaps you'd like to help out with the website?! But if not that's cool, and I value your feedback on here and any suggestions you have. Warm regards, scotch. PS. I see the temperature is finally starting to drop in Russia .. was a bit slow this year! PPS. Your written English is excellent! .. are you a native Russian? How did you learn English to such a high level? |
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Originally Posted by scotch
Hi Chippie,
I am going to start planning the next lesson tonight, and will do a special section for Belarus money. However, I don't know how they say their prices. For example, do they say "it costs 200,000 roubles" or "200" . . . or maybe even "200 kiloroubles" Perhaps you can please tell me how they talk about such big quantities? If you buy a jacket that costs $500, do they say "that'll be a million roubles thanks"!? scotch. |
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Originally Posted by ElenaK
I am a native Russian, but currently I live in the USA. Thank you for your compliment about my English. I am not happy with my progress at all, though. I have been studding English almost for three years now. And my level still is not high enough to obtain a decent job.
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Originally Posted by ElenaK
I would build my lessons totally different. Sorry. But you are the boss there and the chosen by you methods probably correspond to a problem which you try to solve.
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Originally Posted by scotch
I am very surprised, because your written English is somewhat better than many Australians, and definitely better than all Canadians (right back at ya Randy!
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Originally Posted by scotch
It would be very interesting and informative for the guys on these forums to hear about your experiences of trying to find a job in the USA.
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Originally Posted by scotch
Privyet Elena,
It would be very interesting and informative for the guys on these forums to hear about your experiences of trying to find a job in the USA. But perhaps it would be of most benefit somewhere in the Russian-Western Relationship and Marriage Forums section If you want I can start a new thread or you could fire it up (start it) yourself. I know it's a concern on my mind, and for many others too who care about their wife's well-being. Yeah, the goal is to provide a different learning method than what is currently available in books or on other websites. These other resources tend to follow the general learning method of heavy grammar, less raw vocab, and a lot less fun. I know I get bored very quickly with this method, and Im sure others do too. L2R is certainly not a substitute for reference textbooks, and most serious students would already own these, but I want to make it useful for people who are planning to travel to the FSU, or who hate grammar Perhaps you could please share with us how you would approach teaching Russian? I'm sure there are people out there who find my site a bit flaky and might benefit from another strategy. Warm regards, scotch. |
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