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Does she look like a scam ?

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Posted by: rui

Hi guys , I´m Portuguese so my english is not the best . I posted my profile on the site BRIDE RU., it was free . Some girls contacted me , but since about 3 months ago I just comunicate with one russian girl . I´m 36 but I do a lot of sport (I look well ) and she is 25 . A few weeks ago I ask her if it comes to the case , if she could come to Portugal , she said yes and the next day she told she went to the travel agency and the price is between 650-780 euros flight and visa . Then I decide I´d rather visit her some time . Last week she send me an email and instead of signing Olga she sign Lena , just after 2-3 hours later she send another one apologizing for that , Lena is her other name that her god mother gave in church and very few people knows it and is quite a secret . Theres somebody that knows sométhing about the Russian coulture and help me on this ?
Thank you . Rui



Posted by: Pin Boy

welcome,

you may need the advice of a european to tell you whether or nor she can get a visa to visit you. if she wanted to come to america, she could not get a visa. but this is a woman you have never met. think about this: what woman would travel to meet a man she has never met in a country where she does not speak the language???

the first rule on this site is never send, NEVER send money to someone you have never met. NEVER!

good luck,

pin boy



Posted by: ira156

Hey Rui, yes pinboy is 100% correct. DONT SEND MONEY. I believe that if you are serious about a RW then go to Russia. Even if this one isnt the one for you, you will get a great insight into the people and culture. If you hit it off then you can organise a trip for her later. Read up about Russia and why the women look for WM ect. it will give you some great info. There are many posts on here that will help you. Good Luck



Posted by: ham

Quote:
Originally Posted by rui
Hi guys , I´m Portuguese so my english is not the best . I posted my profile on the site BRIDE RU., it was free . Some girls contacted me , but since about 3 months ago I just comunicate with one russian girl . I´m 36 but I do a lot of sport (I look well ) and she is 25 . A few weeks ago I ask her if it comes to the case , if she could come to Portugal , she said yes and the next day she told she went to the travel agency and the price is between 650-780 euros flight and visa . Then I decide I´d rather visit her some time . Last week she send me an email and instead of signing Olga she sign Lena , just after 2-3 hours later she send another one apologizing for that , Lena is her other name that her god mother gave in church and very few people knows it and is quite a secret . Theres somebody that knows sométhing about the Russian coulture and help me on this ?
Thank you . Rui


115% pure fraud!

1. why would any "good" woman deliver herself like pizza to the door of a complete stranger just met over the net? Theoretically, you might be Jacques Chirac, but there are 5000% more chances that you might be a bum living in a trailer or a complete sociopath. No "good" woman would be such a fool.

2. The Travel-visa scam plot is the oldest, along with accident/illness/distress scams.
You wire money.
Then she is mysteriously "robbed" or "raped" in a dark alley and looses the money, so you can send more; or airport security request her to have a certain amount in cash, or...or...or...

3. In the end, no woman & no money ( if ever s-he's real & not a man ).

4. She uses your money to come to your country for her own reasons, never meets you & you've been played:

Quote:
I think your best bet is to meet a Ukrainian or Russian girl who is already in UK, legally or illegally, doesn't matter. I will tell you a story, very educational! Unfortunately, this happened on MY site couple months ago. There was that one girl from Moscow, she was real, I mean her name and address was real, but picture was not real. She was corresponding with a guy from UK, also from my site. She was not a typical scammer, which means she didn't ask him for money. But she wanted to come to UK, she already had UK visa. Now we know, that she had her OWN reasons to come to London, and the guy never was that real reason. Though she lied to him of course, and said she wants to come to meet HIM. Anyway, she asked him to buy her a plain ticket. She didn't ask for money, she asked for ticket itself, which is not redeemable, she couldn't sell it and get money from it, or any kind of profit. The guy thought since it was not money, it was safe to do, and bought her a ticket. She DID use that ticket!! She was on that flight, the British Airiness confirmed it to him. But, the photo was fake!! When he came to the airport to meet her plane, there was no such girl among people who arrived!!! Since he didn't know how she really looked like, she silently get of the plane, passed him by and went to the door, and he never recognized her and never met her!! That was a scam, she just needed somebody to pay for her plane ticket, so she get a free ride to London!! She never was interested in him, she used him and stood him up. This is what can happen, that's why it is important to meet a person face-to-face before spending a penny, and not trust the pictures. Scam comes in many forms!! Sometimes they just use men to get free tickets.




Posted by: EasyTarget

Olga and Lena are not even remotely close name wise. Makes one curious.

If she is willing to buy the ticket on her own, and pays her own way, they why not?

Have you talked to her on the phone? Did you send flowers to her and have a photo taken of her while they are being delivered?

What does your gut instinct tell you?



Posted by: raed1971

HEY BRO SHE FORGOT HERE NAME WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT



Posted by: Texas Proud

Quote:
Originally Posted by raed1971
HEY BRO SHE FORGOT HERE NAME WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT


Since you are new.. don't know your context... maybe you are joking.. can't tell.. but.. I have never forgot my name... never..

Like others have said... do not send money.. unlike Ham I do not have enough to know if she is scammer since YOU brought up coming to visit... at least you said you did... I am with Easy.. have her pay her way and reimburse her if you want.. or go visit her at her place.. see what she says to that..



Posted by: bingism

Quote:
Originally Posted by raed1971
HEY BRO SHE FORGOT HERE NAME WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT

It happens to me all the time.....
All the best,
John.... nope... erm.... Pete.... sorry.... I meant Simon.... dang, what's my name again?? someone help me pleeeease! LOL



Posted by: GilaMan

Wow. You guys are sharp here. Maybe you can advise me too. I've been corresponding with a 25-year-old Russian woman. I contacted her initially through Singles Space. She replied the first time there with her personal e-mail so we could correspond directly. My profile there says "Stable USA Man Seeking Bride".

I'm 51 myself, it's in my profile, and she knows this, and is still eager for me to reply, and to continue or further our relationship. She hasn't asked for anything, and so far is just friendly, outgoing, and mentions her dreams of one day settling down, preferably with an older man. Her English is atrocious (not an issue at all), but I understand what she's trying to say, for the most part.

She has also sent me two pics of herself, and she is as cute as a bee's knees.

Here are a few excerpts from my correspondences with her that I consider very bold:

Quote:
Hi. I hope, that you search for such attitudes what are searched by me. I wish
to tell to you, that I search for serious attitudes. Me games do not interest.
I hope, that you understand me. My name XXXXX. To me of 25 years and I live in
Russia. The city of XXXXX. I not the expert in computers, as at present only
I accustom with it in the Internet of cafe. Certainly it would be desirable to
find The man for serious attitudes but if you I interest Correspondence will
show us. I am right? I have no Fear that you is more senior than my age. I
search such for the man which can to understand me. Which already knows, that
such family and certainly would like to have it. I hope to receive from you the
letter. I is probably necessary for you email: e-mail address inserted here


Quote:
Very much I hope, that the desire to find out each other becomes closer our overall aim, because for
It dozing, mutual interest begins to wake up deep, for the present. You see to find persons, To make
out it at first sight, really to feel emotional bond very much not simply in Environmental us firm
space. Therefore, it seems to me, that dialogue between two people, at Which in a breast lonely are
beaten two scarlet heart, not only does them closer on huge distance, But also opens in them that
fine, earlier him not clear and unknown, until they not Knew each other and did not guess at all,
that it and she are two lost half, which At last have found each other.
And know, my friend, I now write you this letter and at me in a head already begin to occur while
Still far, still not revealed to me, mysterious, your image.
I present yours running eyes under my letter, your special reaction, maybe, on any Separate lines.
While only it is necessary to represent you to live playing imagination. I think, to you Slightly it
will be interesting for the beginnings to find out about the provincial girl from Russia, Writing
this the first The letter to you, my friend, that is about me ..... she goes on to describe herself, family and activities


So what do you think? Does she sound legit? Have I found a loving, trusting soul, or a scammer setting me up? Let me add there have been no inconsistencies like in Rui's case.

(Mods, not sure if you would have rather I started a new topic. It appeared the thread had run its course, as the last post was more than 2 weeks ago. Feel free to make a new topic of this if you prefer)



Posted by: ira156

Hey Gila, welcome. Firstly you will tend to find that even if she is not a scammer that there is a considerable age difference. This is something you need to seriously consider. Do you go out with women in your own country of this age. Women from provincial areas are more likely to be trying to improve their lot in life ( i know some of the guys here are going to crucify me for saying that ). She may indeed be genuine, and there are many genuine provincial women seeking WM. And yes age does not seem to be as big an issue for FSU women as for WW. But look at the statisics and the bigger the age difference the more likely it will fail. She is still a 25 yr old, and will have a lot of the wants and needs that any 25 yr old will ( and i dont just mean sexually ). I cant say if she is a scammer or not, if you want to persue it just be very careful as many posts on here will show you just how much pain can arise from failed romances....and even worse failed marriages. But if you are going to go for it ...good luck



Posted by: uniqua

GilaMan, it looks like she is using an online translator. Does she speak ANY English at all?



Posted by: Chrismc

GilaMan

There is no where near enough information to advise here, but from what you have poseted nothing indicates she is anything other than a nice girl.

She is obviously using an online translator that is why some of the sentences get mixed up and the words do not always read properly, but although I have said many times on here age differences do not matter, 26 years is a big gap!!

Bare in mind a lady of that age will probably want children, how do you view this?? this is only one of many issues with a large age gap, but it is one of the biggest for a young lady.

Keep us posted and we may be able to advise more, but for now there is nothing really to go on.

Chris



Posted by: Cheburashka

As we move on up in years, sometimes we men want to know if we "still have it" or not. We want to appear sexy and attractive to ladies. And to think that a woman half our age finds us appealing is a great feather in the cap of our male ego. But seriously think about something. This isn't a crush from a schoolgirl who sees you every day. This is a young lady halfway around the world who has never met you and speaks a language you don't speak. Maybe I am always a skeptic. Maybe those three blonde young ladies really do love Hugh Heffner being one third his age. But in reality, foreign relationships are hard enough without having the age difference to contend with.

Go for it. But do it with your eyes wide open and a set of realistic expectations in mind. Still, it's nice to dream, right?



Posted by: GilaMan

Thank you to all for replying. I deeply appreciate your input, and you impress me once again with your objectivity and honesty here

To answer your questions, no she doesn't speak much English. But she seems eager to learn it. I knew it was a translator the way her messages butcher sentence structure. But I get the drift of what she's saying.

And no, I don't date 25-year-olds here. They won't give me the time of day, so I don't bother. This sweet woman did give me the time of day, so it encouraged me because if age isn't a problem for her, why should it be for me? Unless she loses interest quickly once she sees I have been around the block a few times. DOn't get me wrong - I'm in great shape, healthy, active, and fully capable of keeping up with someone her age ...at least until I drop dead from a coronary But what a way to go!!
Her profile at the place where we first made contact says she is undecided about kids. So does mine. It's not off the table, much as I wouldn't look forward to changing diapers and 2am feedings again.

I didn't "go looking for a nubile, naive young Russian girl". I went looking for a loving woman who doesn't see age as a big issue, and I sent introductory messages to women of all ages from 25 to early '50s. Age isn't a big deal for me either. It just so happens that this sweet woman was the only one to respond. To exclude her because of her age would be no different from the treatment I have gotten here from younger women.

I do plan to be extremely cautious and not push anything. If things develop on their own, fine. There is no urgency at all. If she discovers we have nothing in common and wants to end our correspondence, better now than later, after we may have committed ourselves. That could get messy.

On the ego thing, sure. What man my age wouldn't consider it reason to jump for joy. But I am also realistic. I'm NOT 25 years old anymore, and I would only encourage taking this to the next step if I were rock-sure that she is perfectly comfortable with that. Leading her on and luring her over here, or to a wedding chapel there, under false pretenses is not how I operate. I am completely open and honest, and I wouldn't ever dream of taking advantage of csomeone for my own benefit. I've had that done to myself too many times. It hurts.

I will keep all of you posted as things progress. If they progress. Remember that we are only at message exchange #4 or 5 at this point. Anything could happen.

Again, thank you for the helpful and honest comments. You guys are great!



Posted by: ira156

Hey Gila. I look forward to watching as time goes on. When i first went on the dating sites i clearly stated 35-40 as an age group. I am a young 46 and the last 3 relationships i have had here in oz were all 10-14 yrs younger. I intially got replies from 18 and 20 yr olds. Hell its great for the ego, but i have a daughter thats older than that. Its not the physical thing, i looked at how much we would have in common? Also the social pressures. What sort of friends will she make if she goes to the US. I would bet they wont be in their 50s. My RW is from a province but has lived in Moscow for 2 years now. Many women from provinces have a very hard life with extremely limited opportunities. Once they move to a big city they do change, even to Russian cities let alone western ones. Anyone here who has been to the FSU will tell you it is an expensive excersise, and failure will set you back a couple of years if not finacially then emmotionaly. Most of us here want a relationship that is for the rest of our lives. Try and look down the road a little, 5 years 10 years?? There are many obsticles to overcome in these relationships as you are already finding out, language, culture ect ect. The fewer obsticles there are the more likely the chances of success. If you are a gambler roll the dice, but be warned that sometimes the stakes you lose can be just as high as the ones you might win. Good luck.



Posted by: EasyTarget

Gila:
More then 20 years age gap may be too much, or it may not. It all depends on maturity levels. If you are only on email 5 or 6 let the emails keep going but also keep the door open to other opportunities. If she is from the burbs you may be the only person currently emailing her and as such she may seem more interested in you then she really is.

Since you are an older / wiser guy, you know that you need to keep both your eyes wide open and in the process maybe you can open any potential mates eyes. Make sure they really understand what is required and what it means to start a very long distance relationship.



Posted by: Chrismc

Gila

You've got your head screwed on, as you said yourself "I'm NOT 25 years old anymore" so take you time, keep an open mind, don't mislead her and see what develops and good luck!!

Chris



Posted by: GilaMan

Thanks for the thoughts, Ira156. The woman I'm corresponding with is a city girl. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe when you say "provincial", you mean "rural". Is this correct? If so, no, she's an urban girl. Like I said, I'm not in a hurry to throw away 2 years of time and money chasing a "25-year-old skirt". That's not what I'm after, believe me. I want something that will last, and be fulfilling for both of us.

EasyTarget - Thanks. That's a fear I have. Although she is not from "the sticks", I have no feel for what her past social interactions might have been. She may still be isolated, despite living in a city. And that would be a terrible disappointment for both of us if her interest turned out to be infatuation with a "rich" American man, and fade after a few months. What a nightmare that would be for all concerned!

Chrismc - I won't kid myself into thinking I'm a mid-20s stud muffin. I was at one time .... Just kidding. If I let myself fall into that self-perpetuating ego-strokefest, I could only look in the mirror and say "you sad, pathetic old man ....WTF are you doing?" Reality would kick in, and kick butt. Best to not even stroll down that path.

Thanks again to all for your opinions. I will keep you posted.

UPDATE - She sent me another pic of herself. She has no PC and must use an internet cafe, so I get one e-mail per day from her. The pic is a face shot, and it made my knees buckle .....she's an angel Must maintain an even keel ...Gilaman .....!

She describes her job in more detail. She also mentioned her ideal evening of cuddling under a blanket with her man on a cold night. Nothing forward ...just her being honest, and speaking like she would to a girlfriend.





Posted by: GilaMan

I've been doing a lot of cold, hard thinking about what some of you have said here. And I tend to agree now. A 26 year age difference is just far too much. Heck, the difference in our ages is more than her age! Who am I kidding?

She deserves better than some "approaching old age" used up middle-aged guy. I'm probably older than her father, for crying out loud!

She's a vital 25-year-old who is full of life, and just at the start of her adulthood. She'd be far better off with someone her own age. To pursue this further is an act of shameless selfishness on my part. I have no doubts that some day, should this progress to the ultimate conclusion, she would wake up, look at my crow's feet and love handles, and ask herself "what have I done?". I couldn't live with that. Knowing the only reason someone so young was with me was due to naivete', would tear me apart, and make me feel like a monster, not to mention a cradle-robber. Being the senior member of this potential relationship, I should know better, even if she doesn't. No. It isn't meant to be. It ain't gonna happen.

Unfortunately, despite the fact that my e-mails to her have NOT been seductive or passionate, and have been worded like a friend's message and not a lover's, she is apparently becoming infatuated with me. Maybe even more. I don't know for sure, since the online translator she uses leaves me scratching my head at times. Here are a few key feelings of hers she has put into words, and I'm not sure how well they have survived the translation:

Quote:
Me overflows a wave of pleasure at sensations shares you in yours will penetrate heat letters.
I think, that my letters you as read with pleasure and tireless desire re-read separate lines and
words because for me you began beam light, heating my lonely soul looking happiness.


Quote:
You have appeared. And our dialogue small award of destiny can
is?.. thanks that has allowed to open to you. You think, there is any attraction in space between
two, never met people...?


My plan now is to slowly, carefully ease back. I have to be careful not to hurt her, but I fear there would be far more hurt in her future if I were to pursue this relationship. I see that, even if she doesn't yet.

I haven't told her anything that could be construed as being forward or romantic, other than telling her how pretty she is in the photos she sent. Maybe that was all that she needed. I don't know. As I said, the translation makes it difficult to read undertones.

I regret contacting someone so young now. I should have seen this coming. But going through the photos at the time, and sending the initial contact e-mails, I felt like a kid in a candy store. Bad move on my part. I desperately hope I can ease out without hurting this sweet, trusting girl.

Thoughts?



Posted by: ira156

Hey Gila, when i had some much younger women write to me i would politely reply that i thought they were bery lovely and i am sure that they would find someone special that they would make very happy. Unfortunately that they were too young for me. Not i was too old for them. Just 2 hints Gila....my personal rule was to "Date" women very close to the age i was dating in Oz. Second i am the one that would initiate contact. Its very hard to overcome that initial temptation " yes kid in a candy store" but there are many more mature women that will have ideals and wants in life closer to your own. And many of them are still gorgeous. Good luck mate.



Posted by: Chrismc

I think that is a very wise and mature decision GilaMan......she may not see it like that, but long term I am sure she would appreciate the reason why.



Posted by: GilaMan

Thank you Ira and Chris. I probably knew it all along, but needed to hear someone else say it.

She can do better. And I can find someone with more in common with me.

Thanks again



Posted by: Cheburashka

Way to go GilaMan! Good stuff!!!!

In my experience, ladies that age falling in love with a man twice their age are looking to replace the father figure they never had and not find a mate that they can live out the rest of their life with in true compatibility.

It is nice to dream though.........



Posted by: Chrismc

Quote:
Originally Posted by GilaMan
Thank you Ira and Chris. I probably knew it all along, but needed to hear someone else say it.

She can do better. And I can find someone with more in common with me.

Thanks again


I think you are right!!

Quote:
And I can find someone with more in common with me.
Definately and probably be better suited for you long term.



Posted by: ira156

Quote:
Originally Posted by GilaMan
Thank you Ira and Chris. I probably knew it all along, but needed to hear someone else say it.

She can do better. And I can find someone with more in common with me.

Thanks again

Not Better Gila, just someone more suited.



Posted by: GilaMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by ira156
Not Better Gila, just someone more suited.
Thanks, mate



Posted by: rk288

In my opinion you've made the correct decision. Drop it...

I travelled twice to "Wonderland" in the past two years. Marvelous, simply marvelous vacations and dirt cheap. I think the government subsidizes the airline flights. I couldn't travel from my home town in NY to Albany for 7 days for $1400...and I wouldn't have had such a good time either. A beautiful, charming tourguide at my side 24/7, great food, marvelous entertainment and it goes on and on...the ballet in St Pete was breath taking from 40 feet away in private box seats for 60 bucks each...unforgetable...

Well, you can see my story in stage 3 and "just back from St Pete"...

I'm 56 now and I married a RW who was 50...a scam...

My mistake I think was I only visited her once after more than a year of correspondence and telephone calls...it was all so pleasant...wonderland...Oz...

I have no regrets...there is nothing on my conscience...

Be prepared, if you are going to do this, it's going to cost you...not a lot but plan on it...back yourself up...

My recommendation...meet someone, go there, learn to speak a lot of Russian before you go...a lot of Russian...

For the cost to go there it is the experience of a lifetime...very interesting...very wonderful, fascinating...

Do it first for the vacation then go back for the love...maybe go back twice to check the sincereity...one more time...be sure...be a frequent traveler...

RK288



Posted by: ira156

Quote:
Originally Posted by rk288
In my opinion you've made the correct decision. Drop it...

I travelled twice to "Wonderland" in the past two years. Marvelous, simply marvelous vacations and dirt cheap. I think the government subsidizes the airline flights. I couldn't travel from my home town in NY to Albany for 7 days for $1400...and I wouldn't have had such a good time either. A beautiful, charming tourguide at my side 24/7, great food, marvelous entertainment and it goes on and on...the ballet in St Pete was breath taking from 40 feet away in private box seats for 60 bucks each...unforgetable...

Well, you can see my story in stage 3 and "just back from St Pete"...

I'm 56 now and I married a RW who was 50...a scam...

My mistake I think was I only visited her once after more than a year of correspondence and telephone calls...it was all so pleasant...wonderland...Oz...

I have no regrets...there is nothing on my conscience...

Be prepared, if you are going to do this, it's going to cost you...not a lot but plan on it...back yourself up...

My recommendation...meet someone, go there, learn to speak a lot of Russian before you go...a lot of Russian...

For the cost to go there it is the experience of a lifetime...very interesting...very wonderful, fascinating...

Do it first for the vacation then go back for the love...maybe go back twice to check the sincereity...one more time...be sure...be a frequent traveler...

RK288

I agree 100% with you RK, i went for a vacation with no intention of meeting anyone, met someone after i planned it, 2 months before i went, tried to learn as much about the culture before i went. I would have had a great time even without meeting my love. Going without the expectations made me more relaxed and the whole experience pleasant, Meeting my darling just made it magnificent. Im back in Dec. Just go and enjoy a wonderful counrty with so much to offer, i was just very lucky to have the bonus of finding a keeper.



Posted by: rk288

IRA156...

You go!!! Hope you found a keeper...be very careful...times are changing, I feel it may be too late...too many people...too much publicity...

I flew back with an American who purchases apartments in Kiev...he warned me about this...he visits every month and he is not sure about any of the "many" women he knows. He was most interested in the wife of an American man who immigrated from the fsu who is interested in "moving up" after arriving here...

hmm...

RK



Posted by: ira156

Quote:
Originally Posted by rk288
IRA156...

You go!!! Hope you found a keeper...be very careful...times are changing, I feel it may be too late...too many people...too much publicity...

I flew back with an American who purchases apartments in Kiev...he warned me about this...he visits every month and he is not sure about any of the "many" women he knows. He was most interested in the wife of an American man who immigrated from the fsu who is interested in "moving up" after arriving here...

hmm...

RK

Mate i had my share of scams as do most. Ive been around the block a few times and now the risks in ANY relationship. We actually met by accident, i had planned and booked my trip before we started to communicate. At first she did not in any way want someone from australia, it was just too far away. We met as friends, me asking advice about my trip ect ect.She would i think rather i went and lived over there with her. She has a good job, is totally self sufficent and apart from taking her out ( which i would do with a lady here ) i think i owe her money. We talk for at least an hour every day, and when work permits chat via the net for a couple more. Most people here dont do that when they live with someone. She had the oportunity to leave Russia for a European country much closer to home, with someone that was actually quite a celebrity in his home country. But as she said it just wasnt right. The photos i first saw of her didnt do to much for me, they werent the glam photos you usually see. We nearly didnt meet at all as she had booked her own holiday and would not cancel just to meet me. So if fact there was none of this "great expectation" from either side. She shared an appartment with an old lady ( who i met ) but has since gone to a great deal of personal expence to get her own so we can be together 100% of the time i go back ( saving me a heap in hotel bills). Do i look for the best in people YES, am i naive or a sucker NO, will it work out......TIME WILL TELL Cheers Mate



Posted by: ham

Quote:
Originally Posted by GilaMan
I've been doing a lot of cold, hard thinking about what some of you have said here. And I tend to agree now. A 26 year age difference is just far too much. Heck, the difference in our ages is more than her age! Who am I kidding?

She deserves better than some "approaching old age" used up middle-aged guy. I'm probably older than her father, for crying out loud!

She's a vital 25-year-old who is full of life, and just at the start of her adulthood. She'd be far better off with someone her own age. To pursue this further is an act of shameless selfishness on my part. I have no doubts that some day, should this progress to the ultimate conclusion, she would wake up, look at my crow's feet and love handles, and ask herself "what have I done?". I couldn't live with that. Knowing the only reason someone so young was with me was due to naivete', would tear me apart, and make me feel like a monster, not to mention a cradle-robber. Being the senior member of this potential relationship, I should know better, even if she doesn't. No. It isn't meant to be. It ain't gonna happen.

Unfortunately, despite the fact that my e-mails to her have NOT been seductive or passionate, and have been worded like a friend's message and not a lover's, she is apparently becoming infatuated with me. Maybe even more. I don't know for sure, since the online translator she uses leaves me scratching my head at times. Here are a few key feelings of hers she has put into words, and I'm not sure how well they have survived the translation:





My plan now is to slowly, carefully ease back. I have to be careful not to hurt her, but I fear there would be far more hurt in her future if I were to pursue this relationship. I see that, even if she doesn't yet.

I haven't told her anything that could be construed as being forward or romantic, other than telling her how pretty she is in the photos she sent. Maybe that was all that she needed. I don't know. As I said, the translation makes it difficult to read undertones.

I regret contacting someone so young now. I should have seen this coming. But going through the photos at the time, and sending the initial contact e-mails, I felt like a kid in a candy store. Bad move on my part. I desperately hope I can ease out without hurting this sweet, trusting girl.

Thoughts?


you've done the right thing.
you're no less than anybody else, but let's look life right into the eyes for once.

I don' think "times are changing"... there have NEVER been those times.
I remember how the fad involving Polish, Hungarian, EAST GERMAN (!) women played out.
You had the same wishful suckers, horny old goats, and all the rest and you had scams, trips to the cleaners etc.
Only back then awareness was low to non existent.
It all depends on who you choose, how compatible you are and how realistic your expectations are.
Improving economics can just put things in a more balanced perspective.
Why did the "flood" of Polish or Hungarian women stop?
Why knee-jerk, sob stories of "poor prostitutes" now carry the label Moldovan and Ukrainian?



Posted by: GentleGiant

A bit late in the day for this, but did you ever google her name or address; or check the scammers blacklists??

Parts of the letters you quote are similar to those I received from a 25 y/o in Kirov; very convincing until he/she/Boris emailed me at 02:30 Moscow Time supposedly from the PC at the dress shop she worked at.

If it is not a yahoo or similar account, check the headers for IP address and do a reverse DNS lookup to see where in the world they are coming from; I have outed several scammers that way ( hi New Jersey!!).

If she is genuine, then age may not be an issue, I had heard of Russian women of a similar age married to Russian men of no great wealth or looks who were in their late 50's.

Final word to anyone reading, remember!! they dont really have a translatable word for "Town"; anything larger than a one horse village is a "City".
This got me very confused when I was getting letters from women living in "cities" where the population was 1/2 the size of the small town I live in.



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