divorce statistics: USA - Russian Ukrainian Belarus Travel Music Woman Dating News

	The Russian Meeting Place: A place to meet people and talk about all things Russian... International Discussions about Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Travel, Music, Russian News, Ukrainian culture, Belarusian Dating, Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Kiev and other intelligent topics about life in the former Soviet Union.

Pages: 1

divorce statistics: USA
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)

Posted by: ham

http://www.divorceandkids.com/divor...%20Statis tics

http://www.divorcemagazine.com/statistics/statsUS.shtml

http://www.divorcereform.org/rates.html

Quote:

:3. PROJECTION/PREDICTION. This is the Census Bureau's often-cited "50%" rate, the proportion of marriages taking place right now that will eventually divorce, which has since been revised downward to roughly 43% by the National Center for Health Statistics but was moved back up to around 50% by the Census Bureau in 2002, with even more ifs ands and buts than usual. Most recently, according to the New York Times, it has been revised downward to just over 40%.

Posted by: jeffs

Ham...

I don't want to Hijack you, but it's been soo long and I saw something on the news here a few days ago and immediately tought of you and our discussions of the past.

The news the other night, in russian of course (sveta translated), after like 35 they were saying there is a statistaclly significant difference in the number of men to women in Russia. Meaning there is a surplus of women due to the mortality rate of men. It's just the news and I haven't been able to validate it. I'd write more but I'm getting a guilt trip about a foot rub. (damn all those high heels).

Hope you are well bud, drop me a line,

Jeff

Posted by: ham

i'm still alive.
i posted US & UA census elsewhere with official figures broken down to age brackets about men/women ratio.

Posted by: Volga Trader

See

http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2006/rus06e/05-06.htm

Marriage is making a big recovery in Russia.

Posted by: Volga Trader

The facts

http://www.gks.ru/free_doc/2006/rus06e/05-03.htm

The Russian language version of the site has an interactive age-sex pyramid which is great fun. As said below, up to age 35 there are more men than women in Russia. Up to age 45 the difference is small. The men start dying after 45 and after 50 they die rapidly. Heart disease and accidents are the prominent killers. Homicide and suicide are also high.

In the US the crossover age is 31 (i.e. there are more surplus young women in the US than Russia but they are black and poor - the Russian surplus is rural, poor and inaccessible). In most of Europe the crossover age is more like 43.

Another interesting statistic is that Russians on 4000 roubles a month 2 years ago are now likely to be earning over 12000 roubles a month. All those state employees coming off half and quarter pay. Buying educated women is ceasing to be an option.

Posted by: ira156

It would be interesting to know how many defacto relationships fail as they wouldnt come up in official divorce statistics?

Posted by: Volga Trader

Quote:

Originally Posted by ira156

It would be interesting to know how many defacto relationships fail as they wouldnt come up in official divorce statistics?

According to right wing UK politicians who study these matters, the break up rate for cohabiting couples with children under 5 is four times greater than for married couples. 41% of UK couples now cohabit.

Posted by: ham

http://www.census.gov/compendia/sta...les/08s1302.xls

Quote:

Percentage of population that is divorced:
10% (up from 8% in 1990, 6% in 1980) US census 2000

Ratio of annual divorces to marriages in 2005:
US 0,49
JAPAN 0,37
UK 0,49
GERMANY 0,57

Posted by: AkMike

But that is all marriages nothing to do with FSU/WM marriages,

Posted by: matt235

All right, I'm going to try to be the optimist here.

I have not looked at that link, because it would taint my opinion right now. Here is how I see divorce in the WORLD. Some things are meant to be and some things aren't. I would say that an overwhelming number of us here (at least the guys) are divorced. I don't know this for a fact, just a hunch. So most of my thoughts will be directed to or associated with the men.

True this is an important issue, but it seems that there are a few threads here that dwell on this subject; a subject that is unknown, uncontrollable and unnecessary. It seems that we are focusing on getting divorced before we ever get married and in some case long before we even meet "the one". The way I see this, we are basically setting ourselves up for failure. Going into a marriage with this attitude will make a person paranoid, thinking that the other half is up to something, they're going to leave us any day now, or expecting the marriage not to work thus you don't care and do something stupid.

However, since I am here, let's look at a few issues that it I have yet to find on the RMP through my searches.

OK, we have a 50% divorce rate. What are the breakdowns in the following categories: Age, Age difference, Age when Married, Children, Age of each partner when children were born, Age of each partner when Divorced, Circumstances of Divorce, Socio-economic situation of the couple, immediate family issues, etc, etc, etc, etc,.... The problem here is the fact that there are just too many variables to discuss this issue as a generic topic. You must look at each individual situation. Divorces happen and each one is different.

But if you really want to consider something, think about this. How many of those divorces are from couples that were married before 25 with children within 1 year of the marriage (including shotgun weddings)? I bet you would find a metric buttload of these divorces skewering the percentage. And that is not just in the states but everywhere, FSU included.

Next, how many of them were bar stool brides or grooms. If you don't think that is an issue, you had better think twice my friends. These are the good time girls and boys that prefer to live in a bar than with their significant other.

OK, one more and then I will get to the good side of the post. How many were a result of abusing alcohol or drugs. And this doesn't matter what age the couple is, alcohol and drugs know no age limits.

Now for something a little more cheery. How many of these divorces were between two people that sit out to find the person that they dream of, one that they actually find? We are here at RMP discussing things that none of us were taught how to do as children. We have learned from our mistakes in the past. We have evaluated our life with our experiences and hopefully figured out what it is that we really want in this life and in our life partner. Additionally, we (at least I) are/am committed to finding what I want, be it in the FSU, China, South America or in my backyard. I know what I want and part of what I want is a partner that understands what she wants out of this life and will accept nothing less, just as I will accept nothing less. I have annotated on paper, on the computer and in my mind what I am willing to accept as a partner for the rest of my life. A portion of this is a true committment in the relationship. Now when it is all said and done, I may or may not find my partner, but I will not accept less. If we all keep this attitude during your search and subsequent marriage, then we will be successful and the word divorce will be erased from our vocabulary.

It is a truly difficult road to travel, but each of us have saddled up our horse and started down that road. All of us here are on a stronger and more intelligent horse than the first time we went down this road. We shall never come to the end of the road as this is a journey and not a destination; just don't fall off your horse.

Posted by: redhawk

geezus that was beautiful matt,and my sentiments EXACTLY. very very well said.

Posted by: matt235

Red,

Just calling them as I see them. But thanks for the compliments anyway.

later,