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Violence against women.
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Posted by: firemansam

Never a nice subject.
http://www.amnesty.org/russia/womens_day.html

Posted by: Cheburashka

It's good to see you posting here FMSam! Thanks for the article.

Posted by: searcher

Interesting.

25 percent have suffered from domestic violence.

What I am curious about is:

1) How do they obtain these statistics?

2) How many are thought to be unreported?

3) How many men also suffer from some form of domestic violence?

4) Why such a high percentage? What is it in a particular society that makes certain things more prevailent than in another society? (I think the higher rates of alcohol consumption may have some relevance)

Posted by: Spakoyna

I can speak from my experience with those I have associated with. This is a big issue and major concern for many FSU women. All I have met have seen or experienced this.

One thing those who are visiting should consider is how you vocalize. My wife was very sensitive to any elevation(I am not talking about yelling either) in a conversation. If it occured during a disagreement I honstly believe in the begining she was afraid I might hit her. From what I can gather is if a Russian person becomes loud in a disagreement that most of the time a fight or beating will ensue.I would be interested to hear others experiences.

Posted by: metaforest

Quote:

Originally Posted by firemansam

Never a nice subject.
http://www.amnesty.org/russia/womens_day.html

This is a big issue in all countries.

I had a disagreement with V. over her misappropriation of funds.
The result was her "covering up", like a woman who was expecting to be beaten.

The tone in my voice during that conversation WAS assertive, but I did not use ANY abusive language. Put simply, it is not my way of dealing with confrontation. With the huge physical distance between us I didn't expect the reaction I got. She clearly took on the role of one who has experienced abuse. It was disturbing to me on many different levels.

I know from my experiences with women in the US that physical abuse is far more common in the USA than anyone would care to admit. With the demographic ratio being what it is in Russia I can imagine that the issue is far more severe.

It's a frustrating reality. I think that it colors many interactions between Russian women and western men....

=B-)

Posted by: bobjf

unfortunatly it isn't just a russian problem,however it should never be condoned under any circumstances.
makes you wonder about the big brave boff heads who think its ok to hit a woman.
i know a very peteit woman here, goes less than 50kg's soaking wet & only 4ft7 who would give boris a very bad time if he was silly enough to hit her

Posted by: Texas Proud

OK... first I have not read the whole article... but will try to do so later..

But, I am always skeptical with these pronouncements.... 25% being abused... then I saw this in one of the quotes..

"The state however offers no protection against everyday physical, psychological, and financial abuse. What we need is to prevent domestic violence and the state to make it unacceptable"

OK... all will agree that physical violence is not acceptable (well, excpet for the ones who do it)

But, psychological is a huge area... some is most definately violence, but a lot is just normal human interactions... she does the quilt trip to try and get a gift or flowers... you do something to get what you want... normal..

And what is financial abuse??? From what I have heard from my GF, she was squirling (sp??) away money so she could buy a washing machine... she just sprung it on her husband... yes, he agreed to do it... but she was not telling him she had any money...

so, does hold back money from a woman who spends everything she can be considered financial violence??? probably...

So, I do not believe their stats unless they break them down into the categories..

Posted by: joeman

i grew up in a abusive home life and while most people discount or don't understand emotional abuse. what it in general means is this, when words or body language gives the other party the indication that if they don't back down then the abuse could and probley will get physical, and when this is done over a long time or a short but intense period it causes the abused parties behavior to change so that they can avoid the emotional distress.

while this seems not very bad at first, what it does to the person is it changes who and what they are for life. physical abuse can be seen and while the body heals the trama done, the mental trama can heal right along with the physical. but when the trama is inside the person who was em. abused wonders why no one else can tell they are hurting, so the pain takes a very long time to heal because no one can help them if no one can see if they are hurting.

also if a person is em. abused usualy that person does not want to report it because they know that it is a thin line between yelling and hiting and the fear is what keeps them from healing.

i hope this helps you understand emotional abuse a little better. and remember words have more power than a fist, sword, or gun. because words are forever